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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segadem(m): 11:54am On Aug 09, 2017
CapitalCee:


There is no opinion here to give Mr. Saying that scoring a penalty is a 50-50 chance is like saying Addiss Ababa is the capital of Nigeria. It's easier to score from the penalty spot than any means. You know you are just deluding yourself. Even if all all 5 Chelsea players missed their penalties on Sunday it still doesn't Negate the fact that the probability to miss a penalty is about 1/10.

When you place 10 balls in a bag. 9 balls are white, 1 of the balls is red, if you randomly pick 1 ball from the bag. The probability that you will pick a red ball is 9/10 that of white is 1/10. what it means is that there is a very high chance that a ball picked at random from the bag will be red, with a slim chance of the picked ball being white. But that doesn't mean that it's not possible for you to pick a white ball, or even still pick a white ball again if you repeat the exercise or even for a third time.

When a couple with blood genotype AS and AS marry, this is the possible outcome of the genotype of their next offspring, according to Mendelian law of independent assortment: AS, AS,AA, and SS. The chance to produce a carrier(As) is 50% while those of sicklers and normal genotype is 25% apiece. So giving birrh to a sickler is less likely than producing a carrier and normal offspring, which is 75:25. But haven't you seen where a couple with such genotype in my example produced 3 sickling offsprings of of 4 children? And even in a classical case the 4th may even be an AA which also has a 25% chance to occur, while that which has the highest chance from the trio of outcomes AS may not even happen even if you try procreating 10 times.

I saw where you gave examples with Chelsea players scoring just one of their penalties or Portugal missing all their kicks against Chile. But you forgot that Arsenal and Chile in you scenario had a 100% success rates. Statistics has shown that penalties has far been scored more often than missed. So saying that scoring a penalty is a 50-50 chance is a ridiculous claim, except if you just want to exergerate
haba see long epistle!
Maybe what he meant was penalty shoot-out is 50-50 to either team
Pelle of Brazil said "it is only a bad penalty that will be missed"
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 12:04pm On Aug 09, 2017
afrodoc2:


According Jordet et al in the Journal of Sports Science grin the success rate of penalties in the World Cup is 71.2 %, Copa America and Euros is above 82 % and even the 5th penalty which has the lowest success rate is above 64 %.
Penalty is not 50-50, more like 80-20 and there is no attacking action easier to implement in football than a penalty kick apart from maybe an empty net tap in.

Afrodoc na why u shook Ur mouth inside this thing now? grin

Anyways my point is that there is no way you and I can tell for sure if a penalty will end up as a goal or not, till after it is taken. We are never sure of the outcome are we? At best we can take an educative guess right? That was the point I was trying to make when I stated pens are 50 - 50.

Now based on the stats you posted above, how did you arrive at 80 - 20?

Will you be open to placing a bet each time a pen is about to be taken? If you are, kindly let me know. Tx
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spartacus11(m): 12:06pm On Aug 09, 2017
Which RM player do my guy dis last night, dem wan use shot finish him head

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emaprince: 12:07pm On Aug 09, 2017
See face!!!

What a shot!!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spartacus11(m): 12:15pm On Aug 09, 2017
Lol some twitter users chaiiii

Who do u dis bad

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:15pm On Aug 09, 2017
Segadem:
...and don't u think some faithful fans will label u as a libel?

Label me as a libel, i don't understand.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 12:18pm On Aug 09, 2017
diggz:


Afrodoc na why u shook Ur mouth inside this thing now? grin

Anyways my point is that there is no way you and I can tell for sure if a penalty will end up as a goal or not, till after it is taken. We are never sure of the outcome are we? At best we can take an educative guess right? That was the point I was trying to make when I stated pens are 50 - 50.

Now based on the stats you posted above, how did you arrive at 80 - 20?

Will you be open to placing a bet each time a pen is about to be taken? If you are, kindly let me know. Tx

I do not bet, not even on surer things. You do know there are researchers who study practically all the penalties played in top flight football?


The penalty success rate in La Liga over the last 6 seasons is 81 %, Bundesliga 81.56 %, Serie A 79.15 %.
It is basically 80-20 although when you get to the highest level of competition like UCL and the World Cup it is lower, more like 70-30.
These are statistical facts not prognostications from NL analysts cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 12:27pm On Aug 09, 2017
Segadem:
haba see long epistle!
Maybe what he meant was penalty shoot-out is 50-50 to either team
Pelle of Brazil said "it is only a bad penalty that will be missed"

The guy was trying to say that if Morata stands over a ball placed on a penalty spot, and his aim is to score, that the chance that he(Morata or any other player ) will score or miss is 50-50. Which is not true.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 12:33pm On Aug 09, 2017
Bimffo:


I am in. grin grin

When will payment start? grin

But damn it, you are a clown.

Delivery format sef dey. Where will be my Location/Thread sir. grin grin

Send in your CV. CobhamExpressServices@Nairaland.com

We deliver across the whole threads, this is a full-time job, stop making it look like an internship.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:39pm On Aug 09, 2017
Stewpidity is selling Ake for £20m, then chasing Drinkwater for £30m.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 12:45pm On Aug 09, 2017
CapitalCee:


There is no opinion here to give Mr. Saying that scoring a penalty is a 50-50 chance is like saying Addiss Ababa is the capital of Nigeria. It's easier to score from the penalty spot than any means. You know you are just deluding yourself. Even if all all 5 Chelsea players missed their penalties on Sunday it still doesn't Negate the fact that the probability to miss a penalty is about 1/10.

When you place 10 balls in a bag. 9 balls are white, 1 of the balls is red, if you randomly pick 1 ball from the bag. The probability that you will pick a red ball is 9/10 that of white is 1/10. what it means is that there is a very high chance that a ball picked at random from the bag will be red, with a slim chance of the picked ball being white. But that doesn't mean that it's not possible for you to pick a white ball, or even still pick a white ball again if you repeat the exercise or even for a third time.

When a couple with blood genotype AS and AS marry, this is the possible outcome of the genotype of their next offspring, according to Mendelian law of independent assortment: AS, AS,AA, and SS. The chance to produce a carrier(As) is 50% while those of sicklers and normal genotype is 25% apiece. So giving birrh to a sickler is less likely than producing a carrier and normal offspring, which is 75:25. But haven't you seen where a couple with such genotype in my example produced 3 sickling offsprings of of 4 children? And even in a classical case the 4th may even be an AA which also has a 25% chance to occur, while that which has the highest chance from the trio of outcomes AS may not even happen even if you try procreating 10 times.

I saw where you gave examples with Chelsea players scoring just one of their penalties or Portugal missing all their kicks against Chile. But you forgot that Arsenal and Chile in you scenario had a 100% success rates. Statistics has shown that penalties has far been scored more often than missed. So saying that scoring a penalty is a 50-50 chance is a ridiculous claim, except if you just want to exergerate

Shuooo! Bros na because diggz say you no knowledgeable na im make you type this long epistle join? Lol...diggz come apologise o.

About penalties... I think diggz meant that it's 50 50 based on teams i.e. when the Arsenal vs Chelsea match entered penalty shootout, it was 50 50 for either team to win.

But if it is player vs 'keeper, penalties favour the player more like 80 20. That is why 'keepers are hailed for saving penalties more players for scoring.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 12:51pm On Aug 09, 2017
CapitalCee:


There is no opinion here to give Mr. Saying that scoring a penalty is a 50-50 chance is like saying Addiss Ababa is the capital of Nigeria. It's easier to score from the penalty spot than any means. You know you are just deluding yourself. Even if all all 5 Chelsea players missed their penalties on Sunday it still doesn't Negate the fact that the probability to miss a penalty is about 1/10.

When you place 10 balls in a bag. 9 balls are white, 1 of the balls is red, if you randomly pick 1 ball from the bag. The probability that you will pick a red ball is 9/10 that of white is 1/10. what it means is that there is a very high chance that a ball picked at random from the bag will be red, with a slim chance of the picked ball being white. But that doesn't mean that it's not possible for you to pick a white ball, or even still pick a white ball again if you repeat the exercise or even for a third time.

When a couple with blood genotype AS and AS marry, this is the possible outcome of the genotype of their next offspring, according to Mendelian law of independent assortment: AS, AS,AA, and SS. The chance to produce a carrier(As) is 50% while those of sicklers and normal genotype is 25% apiece. So giving birrh to a sickler is less likely than producing a carrier and normal offspring, which is 75:25. But haven't you seen where a couple with such genotype in my example produced 3 sickling offsprings of of 4 children? And even in a classical case the 4th may even be an AA which also has a 25% chance to occur, while that which has the highest chance from the trio of outcomes AS may not even happen even if you try procreating 10 times.

I saw where you gave examples with Chelsea players scoring just one of their penalties or Portugal missing all their kicks against Chile. But you forgot that Arsenal and Chile in you scenario had a 100% success rates. Statistics has shown that penalties has far been scored more often than missed. So saying that scoring a penalty is a 50-50 chance is a ridiculous claim, except if you just want to exergerate



Oga there is a reason why football is basically not science or simple mathematics that you can pick a pen to solve however when you reduce it to such, it shows you are not just being arrogant with what you consider to be true but deluded.

People who place their money on penalties will under what I am saying more, not a show off like you trying to reduce or rationalize why you can't tell if a player will miss or score a pen by using Mendelian law of assortment to prove shit.

For your information unlike the blood genotype thingy which science have made a lot of advancement in, no amount of science can predict the exact outcome of a pen to be taken by a player or which player will score a pen and those that will not except it has been prearranged.

If there is an amount of exaggeration in me saying each pen taken is 50 - 50, Yes! But you coming here to shout 75 - 25 like you can accurately tell when/if a pen will be missed or scored, by what ratio it will happen in a game etc is the biggest joke of the day.

I made an offer earlier as regard pens before they are taken, if you are sure of your Mendelian law when next we are going to have a pen in a game, you will be dropping cash to support Ur theory. I am sure you won't mind betting with your life savings if your are sure of turning it into several thousands or millions,will you?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 1:02pm On Aug 09, 2017
afrodoc2:


I do not bet, not even on surer things. You do know there are researchers who study practically all the penalties played in top flight football?


The penalty success rate in La Liga over the last 6 seasons is 81 %, Bundesliga 81.56 %, Serie A 79.15 %.
It is basically 80-20 although when you get to the highest level of competition like UCL and the World Cup it is lower, more like 70-30.
These are statistical facts not prognostications from NL analysts cheesy

I am glad you don't bet. I am also happy you have reduced it to 70 - 30 at least we are getting somewhere.

Now like I mentioned earlier.... I made that statement not as a finality but to drive home a point. I was actually saying there is no way you can tell if a player will score a pen or not. I was saying even when you decide to take a position on if a player will score or throwaway a pen, it will be a guess(50 - 50), an educative guess,Yes!!, however you are still going to take a guess. There is no way in this life science or statistics can accurately tell if a player will score a pen or not, when a player will score a pen or not, to what ratio will it be out of 10players etc.....

No think say I no see wetin you do with Ur first post o!
You give Ur guy bone to use dey get mouth dey quote Mendelian law of fvck whatever on top penalty tongue tongue

#wehdonsir
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 1:02pm On Aug 09, 2017
diggz:




Oga there is a reason why football is basically not science or simple mathematics that you can pick a pen to solve however when you reduce it to such, it shows you are not just being arrogant with what you consider to be true but deluded.

People who place their money on penalties will under what I am saying more, not a show off like you trying to reduce or rationalize why you can't tell if a player will miss or score a pen by using Mendelian law of assortment to prove shit.

For your information unlike the blood genotype thingy which science have made a lot of advancement in, no amount of science can predict the exact outcome of a pen to be taken by a player or which player will score a pen and those that will not except it has been prearranged.

If there is an amount of exaggeration in me saying each pen taken is 50 - 50, Yes! But you coming here to shout 75 - 25 like you can accurately tell when/if a pen will be missed or scored, by what ratio it will happen in a game etc is the biggest joke of the day.

I made an offer earlier as regard pens before they are taken, if you are sure of your Mendelian law when next we are going to have a pen in a game, you will be dropping cash to support Ur theory. I am sure you won't mind betting with your life savings if your are sure of turning it into several thousands or millions,will you?

I think we should drop this argument, you are drifting out of scope. Even 99:1 probability can go the way of 1/100 at a given time, so I don't know what you mean by I should go and bet on penalties which is very unpredictable. The fact is that it's easier for a player to score from the spot than to miss. No player is praised for scoring a penalty but goal keeper can win motm by saving a single spot kick. You know I am telling you the truth.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 1:40pm On Aug 09, 2017
Ibime:
Stewpidity is selling Ake for £20m, then chasing Drinkwater for £30m.



I agree.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 1:48pm On Aug 09, 2017
CapitalCee:


I think we should drop this argument, you are drifting out of scope. Even 99:1 probability can go the way of 1/100 at a given time, so I don't know what you mean by I should go and bet on penalties which is very unpredictable. The fact is that it's easier for a player to score from the spot than to miss. No player is praised for scoring a penalty but goal keeper can win motm by saving a single spot kick. You know I am telling you the truth.

If you weren't itching to criticize a post you didn't understand while trying to pass yourself as being knowledgeable,you won't be here acting confused and telling me I have drifted out of scope with a post I made.

If my initial post wasn't clear enough for you why didn't you just ask me to clarify my position instead of you attacking my post.

So you don't want to bet on pens because it is unpredictable? But you can quote Mendelian law of assortment and tell me the ratio is 75 - 25 accurate, right? Why not use the Mendelian law to resolve it and make it more predictable since you are a scholar in sciences and I am not?

I don't know what you consider to be true. From what I can tell, all you wanted to do is show off, argue and not have a discourse. It was way too obvious in all Ur cheap/ subtle/weak undertones.

Bros......when next you don't understand a persons post,ask qxns and save urself from Ur arrogance!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 1:51pm On Aug 09, 2017
Ibime:
Stewpidity is selling Ake for £20m, then chasing Drinkwater for £30m.



Burr burrr Ake wasn't good enough and ready to play for the senior team.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 2:09pm On Aug 09, 2017
diggz:



Burr burrr Ake wasn't good enough and ready to play for the senior team.
Drinkwater understands PL football and he has experience of European footie
Here at Chelsea, we are not a development center, we don't have time to blood anybody
We want to win trophies and not be like Spurs,that why we sign superstars like Drinkwater and Barkley

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:18pm On Aug 09, 2017
bigkesh:

Drinkwater understands PL football and he has experience of European footie
Here at Chelsea, we are not a development center, we don't have time to blood anybody
We want to win trophies and not be like Spurs,that why we sign superstars like Drinkwater and Barkley



Kesh why will you send a mail and not include the name of the receiver?


Emmmm......lemme see if I can get who can help out. Griffon who should we address this mail to now.....?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:25pm On Aug 09, 2017
Ibime:
Stewpidity is selling Ake for £20m, then chasing Drinkwater for £30m.

its not stupidity. We need English players in our squad.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:26pm On Aug 09, 2017
hensben:
its not stupidity. We need English players in our squad.

We need English players to do what exactly bro?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 2:27pm On Aug 09, 2017
diggz:
Kesh why will you send a name and not include the name of the receiver?


Emmmm......lemme see if I can get who can help out. Griffon who should we address this mail to now.....?

Nihilist isn't a proponent of youth megedefegede, he doesn't believe in that crap. He believes elite competitions should be handled by elite players.

Remember our delivery format?

That is Mr Nihilist's package. Address, 37 City Road London, England.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:27pm On Aug 09, 2017
diggz:


We need English players to do what exactly bro?
Quota system things
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:29pm On Aug 09, 2017
Ake wasn't good enough according to Conte.

No arguments from me here.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:33pm On Aug 09, 2017
hensben:
Quota system things

I sincerely don't think we need them to achieve that purpose bcuz Ake would have qualified as a home grown player.

Even the English cholabah nko? How much did we sell him? How much are we chasing Drinkwater for?

When some of us accuse the board of steeewpidity some will praise them.

Emenalo cheesy n is fellow board members are steeewpid! angry angry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:34pm On Aug 09, 2017
Griffon:


Nihilist isn't a proponent of youth megedefegede, he doesn't believe in that crap. He believes elite competitions should be handled by elite players.

Remember our delivery format?

That is Mr Nihilist's package. Address, 37 City Road London, England.


Bwuahahahaha... wink
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:37pm On Aug 09, 2017
Griffon:


Nihilist isn't a proponent of youth megedefegede, he doesn't believe in that crap. He believes elite competitions should be handled by elite players.

Remember our delivery format?

That is Mr Nihilist's package. Address, 37 City Road London, England.

That mail should be returned to sender.

Until Ake wins the league playing for a team at 5000/1 odds, then he should shut up and take notes when Drinkwater speaks

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:39pm On Aug 09, 2017
What does Omo alata mean,
My Yoruba isn't the best but all I get is Child?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 2:39pm On Aug 09, 2017
hensben:
Quota system things

Ake is definitely homegrown. He has been registered with us for a period of three seasons prior to his 21st birthday.

So he over-qualifies for your quota megedefegede.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 2:41pm On Aug 09, 2017
Ladies and gentlemen, we can now confirm that Okazaki is better than Marcus RashFord and Ihenacho

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:44pm On Aug 09, 2017
Griffon:


Ake is definitely homegrown. He has been registered with us for a period of three seasons prior to his 21st birthday.

So he over-qualifies for your quota megedefegede.
Ake is not English. You need English players in your team if you don't want the wrath of Ref in a game. Sir Alex used this strategy to dorminate English league.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:47pm On Aug 09, 2017
bigkesh:
Ladies and gentlemen, we can now confirm that Okazaki is better than Marcus RashFord and Ihenacho

Nihilist can you please confirm if this mail is yours?

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