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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 12:08pm On Aug 09, 2017
PietroRico:
1st match of the season, sinizia don dey remind us of how he warn all of us and Woodward against buying Pogba but Woodward no listen.

I'm sure when Woodward sees it he will learn and not make the same mistake of not listening to him

Pogba's nonchalant, lackadaisical and showboating attitude is his greatest demerits and the reason I never wanted him. Second season is about to start and he's the same ol' limelight-craving teenager. There's is a reason why I'd always want players like Matuidi or hardly criticise a player like Roy Keane. I hate showboating with passion and these serious aforementioned players don't have it. It's the reason why I love Hererra.

I'll continue to reiterate that until he realises that doing simple things and helping his team-mates is the best to fulfil potential, he'll end up another bundle of talent that never got to live up to his hype.

Fabregas at his age was already a midfield kingpin, passing opponents out of the park and sharing assists like say na national cake. He did all those things without the unnecessary baggage of showmanship.

You can choose to always protect Pogba all you want, I won't. I'll criticise him and praise him as well. Sugarcoating words coz he costs us 89m ain't my style.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kizolo(m): 12:09pm On Aug 09, 2017
My observations from the game

1. Our right wing is ineffective. We need a good right winger that would stick to the wing play instead of drifting into the midfield like Lingard and Micki does when played there.

2. Micki is our best creative player and should be played in the midfield as a No 10.

3. Lingard is average. He needs to step up or get benched. Rashford and Martial should compete for the left wing role. I still don't fathom why Mourinho prefers Lingard to Martial. Hope we don't lose him eventually.

4. Herrera is average. Needs to step up especially against big teams, he needs to influence and control the midfield more.

5. Shaw is the answer to our LB woes. Use him or get a better LB. Darmian is too blunt in attack, he contributes absolutely nothing in attack. Making the job herculean for the left winger. Darmian should be played only as a LWB in a 3-man defence.

6. Lukaku is a great buy! Goals are guaranteed from him. With Shaw and either if Rashford/Martial in the left wing to feed him with crosses and cut ins dude will score plenty.

7. Valencia though aging is still a beast. Dude only needs a good right winger to collabo with and cause havoc on the opposition left back with
crosses and cut ins.

8. Mourinho should strictly play Martial and Rashford as wingers that could always swap wing roles (RWF/LWF) during match play. Lingard and Young should serve as back ups for those roles.

9. We need to start attacking more!! We must not only get our sh.it together only when we've been punched first. If we continue this way we'll hardly score first against big teams and that comes with pressure to equalize and Mourinhos only clue when it comes to come backs is bringing in Fellaini and feeding him long balls. Should not be so!

10. Mourinho should only play a formation that would accommodate Micki in the middle as a No 10 Even if it means compromising Pogbas best position as a LCM. Pogba should be ready to play in the CM with Matic or go fvck himself.

11. Our marking and pressing is an eye sore. We need to learn how to press, mark, cover spaces and win possession easily. Mou and the players need to work on that

12. Pressing and marking should start in the opposition half . We should not allow the opposition to play their game and press us back to our box while we run around and watch them play hoping they lose possession. That would put unnecessary pressure on our defense and make our defenders prone to avoidable mistakes

13. DDG is world class. He only needs to work on his precision in knocking off the ball in the air from set pieces. Should also learn when and how to come out and help defenders when it's needed. These are only the areas Romero is superior

14. Matic is a fantastic buy. Will help a lot. Arguably our best performer in the Madrid game.

So many things to say but make I stop here.. I believe this season will be better than the last.


GGMU

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 12:24pm On Aug 09, 2017
sinizia:


Pogba's nonchalant, lackadaisical and showboating attitude is his greatest demerits and the reason I never wanted him. Second season is about to start and he's the same ol' limelight-craving teenager. There's is a reason why I'd always want players like Matuidi or hardly criticise a player like Roy Keane. I hate showboating with passion and these serious aforementioned players don't have it. It's the reason why I love Hererra.

I'll continue to reiterate that until he realises that doing simple things and helping his team-mates is the best to fulfil potential, he'll end up another bundle of talent that never got to live up to his hype.

Fabregas at his age was already a midfield kingpin, passing opponents out of the park and sharing assists like say na national cake. He did all those things without the unnecessary baggage of showmanship.

You can choose to always protect Pogba all you want, I won't. I'll criticise him and praise him as well. Sugarcoating words coz he costs us 89m ain't my style.
Jesu christi

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diadem10: 12:31pm On Aug 09, 2017
ToyinDipo:

Awareness to pickup pass or position or opponent's presence what?
His movement off or on the ball?

Off the ball movement and spatial awareness (where to be, whom to pick) i.e, the ability to see space where there seems to be none and exploit such space to your taste (basically the ability to picture the field of play and craft it to your taste). I can go on and on.

Pogba has none of this. In fact, such attributes are innate.. Can never be taught.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:43pm On Aug 09, 2017
Perpetual wailers.

Long may the gnashing of teeth continue.

Spits on thread.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ToyinDipo(m): 12:44pm On Aug 09, 2017
diadem10:


Off the ball movement and spatial awareness (where to be, whom to pick) i.e, the ability to see space where there seems to be none and exploit such space to your taste (basically the ability to picture the field of play and craft it to your taste). I can go on and on.

Pogba has none of this. In fact, such attributes are innate.. Can never be taught.
Off the ball movement - if he is the best passer, do balls locate him in space, or does he pass into spaces as well
I can also count a number last ditch tackle he made yesterday, on the defensive side, even though that's not his primary role
Sorry, but I don't see any point in this
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:48pm On Aug 09, 2017
The major problem yesterday was allowing Isco to play.

The second major problem is not trying to win the ball back through direct tackles.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diadem10: 12:52pm On Aug 09, 2017
ToyinDipo:

Off the ball movement - if he is the best passer, do balls locate him in space, or does he pass into spaces as well
I can also count a number last ditch tackle he made yesterday, on the defensive side, even though that's not his primary role
Sorry, but I don't see any point in this

Well, sowwie if you can't see it but at least you've seen how Pogba often looks out of sort against any decent midfield with a maestro. Even in the England friendly match where he was praised to high heaven, he was back to his usual folly immediately Lallana came on and that was Lallana, who's not even a top maestro.

The best Pogba can attain is a top creative box-box 8, ala Yaya toure/Gerrard but never a maestro.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:53pm On Aug 09, 2017
SIRcumalot:

none of those teams are of the same caliber as the Madrid side,they certainly can't pass the ball like that,that was what couldn't deal with it.
We threw the Arsenal game because of the Europa.
We've a much better squad than last year so we suppose dey alright.
No coach fit change the outcome of that yesterday match. Our team is not there yet in comparison to the big guys for Europe.
After all the pisses every transfer window for over 3 years ur useless club is still not there yet, are u trying to pull an Israelite on us?

Keep talking as though u have A mouthful of cum
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 12:55pm On Aug 09, 2017
sinizia:


Pogba's nonchalant, lackadaisical and showboating attitude is his greatest demerits and the reason I never wanted him. Second season is about to start and he's the same ol' limelight-craving teenager. There's is a reason why I'd always want players like Matuidi or hardly criticise a player like Roy Keane. I hate showboating with passion and these serious aforementioned players don't have it. It's the reason why I love Hererra.

I'll continue to reiterate that until he realises that doing simple things and helping his team-mates is the best to fulfil potential, he'll end up another bundle of talent that never got to live up to his hype.

Fabregas at his age was already a midfield kingpin, passing opponents out of the park and sharing assists like say na national cake. He did all those things without the unnecessary baggage of showmanship.

You can choose to always protect Pogba all you want, I won't. I'll criticise him and praise him as well. Sugarcoating words coz he costs us 89m ain't my style.
Gbam I support you, look at the counter after Casemeiro struck the bar. That useless fool had two options to pass to yet he choose to strike so that the papers would carry his name he thinks he's still a teenager always trying to do individual feats of foolishness even when his team is losing I thought the guy go wise during the break but e be like say e don dense more sef. Mtcheewww

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 1:04pm On Aug 09, 2017
sinizia:


Pogba's nonchalant, lackadaisical and showboating attitude is his greatest demerits and the reason I never wanted him. Second season is about to start and he's the same ol' limelight-craving teenager. There's is a reason why I'd always want players like Matuidi or hardly criticise a player like Roy Keane. I hate showboating with passion and these serious aforementioned players don't have it. It's the reason why I love Hererra.

I'll continue to reiterate that until he realises that doing simple things and helping his team-mates is the best to fulfil potential, he'll end up another bundle of talent that never got to live up to his hype.

Fabregas at his age was already a midfield kingpin, passing opponents out of the park and sharing assists like say na national cake. He did all those things without the unnecessary baggage of showmanship.

You can choose to always protect Pogba all you want, I won't. I'll criticise him and praise him as well. Sugarcoating words coz he costs us 89m ain't my style.
You've said it all! Well, I don't blame him sha. I blame the team full of kids and average players with lack of men that is making him form Don jazzy. He wouldn't try this RB in our team of last decade.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TopWinner(m): 1:04pm On Aug 09, 2017
The commentator mentioned one of Jose's major problems: ending matches with a tactic, instead of starting with one.

I sense the need to particularly point out the fact that Paul Pogba is still showboating and making the simplest things difficult (don't know why he keeps doing this). This is his second season already, and if he'll not wear a serious attitude towards games, he'll end up as a grossly under-utilized talent. I don't want to do this but I have to mention the fact that he cost(s) us a lot and should be providing assists and goals on a regular basis - not one match in, 3 matches out. I hope he picks up his non-chalant self and starts delivering in no time.

Boy, was Matic not a beauty to watch? Totally proved me wrong. My opinion about the Big Serb changed after I saw what he did last night, holding up play, launching near-perfect tackles and making important passes (and the strike that led to the goal). What a bargain he'd prove to be as the season rolls along!

Overall, it was a fair contest for our beloved club smiley
We played against the best midfield in the world and did well at it.

We move to Sunday! cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Fussbot: 1:05pm On Aug 09, 2017
Lindelof and smalling were OK for me. My problem is mourinho's tactics against big teams... Shey na like dis we go dey dey?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 1:11pm On Aug 09, 2017
TopWinner:
The commentator mentioned one of Jose's major problems: ending matches with a tactic, instead of starting with one.

I sense the need to particularly point out the fact that Paul Pogba is still showboating and making the simplest things difficult (don't know why he keeps doing this). This is his second season already, and if he'll not wear a serious attitude towards games, he'll end up as a grossly under-utilized talent. I don't want to do this but I have to mention the fact that he cost(s) us a lot and should be providing assists and goals on a regular basis - not one match in, 3 matches out. I hope he picks up his non-chalant self and starts delivering in no time.

Boy, was Matic not a beauty to watch? Totally proved me wrong. My opinion about the Big Serb changed after I saw what he did last night, holding up play, launching near-perfect tackles and making important passes (and the strike that led to the goal). What a bargain he'd prove to be as the season rolls along!

Overall, it was a fair contest for our beloved club smiley
We played against the best midfield in the world and did well at it.

We move to Sunday! cheesy
Which manager/team doesn't start game with at least a tactic
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:16pm On Aug 09, 2017
elampiro:
The major problem yesterday was allowing Isco to play.

The second major problem is not trying to win the ball back through direct tackles.


For some reasons, Man Utd don't do direct tackles. We prefer to intercept passes or allow the opponent make mistakes
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 1:23pm On Aug 09, 2017
sod09:
im i the only one yet to get the joke undecided undecided
how u wan see joke for madman rants
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 1:48pm On Aug 09, 2017
I am really sick and tired of smalling and lingaard! How the club thinks we can go anywhere with such players in the squad amazes me! We have ended our interest in both bale and perisic and dortmund have put a price on dembele....we and barca are the only ones interested...even if it would cost $90m let us blow barca out of the water....our wing play is dead......martial can't be relied on YET and needs competition

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:54pm On Aug 09, 2017
Griffon:


Club banger!

Club what Any dj that plays this at a decent club is getting booeeed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Santos07: 1:58pm On Aug 09, 2017
PietroRico:
Jesu christi
guy na wetin grin
PietroRico:
Jesu christi
guy na wetin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:59pm On Aug 09, 2017
Leyqute:


We have Cheski, Liverpool, Manxity, Tottenham to play in the league. These are the top teams in the league. Are you saying we should use the same fearful tactics against them?

I see everything as a reflection of Mou's mentality. Once hes afraid of a team he'll go defensive and cripple his attack. If not, he'll come out gun-blazing.

Shame, he was afraid of Arsenal towards the end of last season.

Seems he doesn't know what he's got. Imagine Ferguson or any other sensible manager was the coach yesternight. How would he set up the team?

With what happened yesterday and Mous post-match comments, we're def gon' park buses and trailers against the big teams (i mean from 1st to 12th) ...... expect 3 points from 13th below... the others are most likely gon' be soups and losses...

I wonder why some united fans aint seeing how terrible we played...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 2:06pm On Aug 09, 2017
kokaneprodigy:
Perpetual wailers.

Long may the gnashing of teeth continue.

Spits on thread.

Trophies won sofar

Arsenal 1 scumwats 0.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bencrane(m): 2:07pm On Aug 09, 2017
GloryIsaac:


With what happened yesterday and Mous post-match comments, we're def gon' park buses and trailers against the big teams (i mean from 1st to 12th) ...... expect 3 points from 13th below... the others are most likely gon' be soups and losses...

I wonder why some united fans aint seeing how terrible we played...



yeah I agree
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bencrane(m): 2:14pm On Aug 09, 2017
our teams equad is bad
l suggest we send lindagard onloan martial on loan blind sell pogba even with the price tag need lot, I mean lots of orientation lukaku mikitarynh Radford forward hererra no midfielder that's the problem defence Valencia bailly rogo shaw which team fit break this defence.LTS solid
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bencrane(m): 2:14pm On Aug 09, 2017
our teams equad is bad
l suggest we send lindagard onloan martial on loan blind sell pogba even with the price tag need lot, I mean lots of orientation lukaku mikitarynh Radford forward hererra no midfielder that's the problem defence Valencia bailly rogo shaw which team fit break this defence.LTS solid
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 2:16pm On Aug 09, 2017
The whole fan base turning on Pietrorice and his MCM

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Modric,Kroos and Isco are weyreys,see as them useless the basketball midfield

6'ft FC

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 2:17pm On Aug 09, 2017
funlord:


I am really sick and tired of smalling and lingaard! How the club thinks we can go anywhere with such players in the squad amazes me! We have ended our interest in both bale and perisic and dortmund have put a price on dembele....we and barca are the only ones interested...even if it would cost $90m let us blow barca out of the water....our wing play is dead......martial can't be relied on YET and needs competition
suggesting a player like Dembele? ehen this is you talking.
imagine a Dembele ahead of Anthony Valencia last afternoon!! that guy with ostrich ass hair would have been completely obliterated.
that Neymar Jr move pained me oo mtchew.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bencrane(m): 2:17pm On Aug 09, 2017
bencrane:
our teams equad is bad

l suggest we send lindagard onloan
martial on loan
blind sell
pogba even with the price tag need lot, I mean lots of orientation
lukaku mikitarynh Radford forward
hererra no midfielder that's the problem
defence Valencia bailly rogo shaw which team fit break this defence.LTS solid

we don't use right guys for the right matches

if lindegard see someone like kroos on the pitch it will be a miracle he plays well. l pray for those kind of miracle though to occur
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bencrane(m): 2:20pm On Aug 09, 2017
bigkesh:
The whole fan base turning on Pietrorice and his MCM

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Modric,Kroos and Isco are weyreys,see as them useless the basketball midfield

6'ft FC

pogba mumu dey fool himself for midfield

e dey pain me

man u is living on past glory

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 2:27pm On Aug 09, 2017
ChristineC:
suggesting a player like Dembele? ehen this is you talking.
imagine a Dembele ahead of Anthony Valencia last afternoon!! that guy with ostrich ass hair would have been completely obliterated.
that Neymar Jr move pained me oo mtchew.



Neymar was not a financially viable move so I am glad we did not fall for him and his father's usual scams...barca wanted to do a deal with us and psg only but that money could as well have gotten us veratti, dembele, marquinho and even perisic....we did not get to the top of the money pile by being foolish with our funds while psg are trying to make a statement that they have arrived and can play with the big boys...good luck to them with that!


What we lack in this squad is that x factor...the cr7 type player, the Beckham type player, the giggsy type, the one that would not be afraid to try the audacious, play killer passes, take set pieces and defenders at will! The one who would always look at the tactics being screamed at him during a loss and say "_fuck what jose is saying, I've got this!" Dembele is young but he has these things in abundance...there is a reason barca are trying to replace neymar with him! Our width on this team is wick wick wack!


Sort the Wings and that LB and this team will do something this season in at least one competition!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:30pm On Aug 09, 2017
sinizia:


Pogba's nonchalant, lackadaisical and showboating attitude is his greatest demerits and the reason I never wanted him. Second season is about to start and he's the same ol' limelight-craving teenager. There's is a reason why I'd always want players like Matuidi or hardly criticise a player like Roy Keane. I hate showboating with passion and these serious aforementioned players don't have it. It's the reason why I love Hererra.

I'll continue to reiterate that until he realises that doing simple things and helping his team-mates is the best to fulfil potential, he'll end up another bundle of talent that never got to live up to his hype.

Fabregas at his age was already a midfield kingpin, passing opponents out of the park and sharing assists like say na national cake. He did all those things without the unnecessary baggage of showmanship.

You can choose to always protect Pogba all you want, I won't. I'll criticise him and praise him as well. Sugarcoating words coz he costs us 89m ain't my style.

Perfect
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 2:40pm On Aug 09, 2017
Na wa!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 2:48pm On Aug 09, 2017
Remember when José was going to change his defensive approach because he is managing the greatest United

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