Blue3k:


IPOB clown has arrived. Those stats are fake because your biafrat supreme commander didn't sign off. Who told I care if you go. Stop wailing and get your reps to push motion. I do care for reforms in Nigeria but call a spade a spade. The ports operate as intended you can import and export what ever through.

honeychild:


This guy. Forced by whom? In 2016 I had to import some books from China. My shipper had both options. Onne and Lagos. I spoke to CFI a clearing agent based in Port Harcourt. They assured me I could import to Onne.

I chose to import to Lagos because I figured that all these Igbo importers who import to Lagos must have a reason for doing that. I had no experience in importation and was not going to take the risk.

What I am trying to say is that I personally found no reason why Onne is not being used.

shukuokukobambi:


Stop hiding behind what she wrote. Write your own and put verifiable links that show this policy of strangulation!! Nothing in her post indicates that. It's hearsay which I've never heard before and needs verification.

To show how wicked your heart is, you accused sick yaradua who spent less than 2 years of promoting the marginalization yet you didn't mention Jonathan who spent 5 years with Diezani as transport minister for sometime.

honeychild:


This guy. Forced by whom? In 2016 I had to import some books from China. My shipper had both options. Onne and Lagos. I spoke to CFI a clearing agent based in Port Harcourt. They assured me I could import to Onne.

I chose to import to Lagos because I figured that all these Igbo importers who import to Lagos must have a reason for doing that. I had no experience in importation and was not going to take the risk.

What I am trying to say is that I personally found no reason why Onne is not being used.

tooth4tooth:

Case closed!! After reading your comment, i see no reason to continue reading others.

PapaBrowne:
Lets stop this victimization card we always play. We need to start asking our own leadership real questions.
I used to believe all the marginalization story until I started trying to understand the real issues myself.

I don't have the time now, but when I do I will give you proper analysis complete with data on our ports and the usage. And you'll find that our leaders in the SE and SS are lying to us to cover for their own failures. The story of propping up Lagos ports is all falsehood. Infact , on some parameters, Onne port actually trumps both Apapa and Tin an Ports. Combined, Lagos ports control just 57% in tonnage terms while Delta and Rivers and Calabar ports control 43%.

Ask an Onitsha trader why he shipped his goods to Lagos and the only reason is that his agent who is from Anambra state is located in Lagos. There are ships going to all the ports. We just dont use it. Our minds are just fixated on Lagos.
Infact the best maintained and most organised port in Nigeria is Onne port and it is not much more expensive than the Lagos ports.

Lets stop this useless victim mentality.

Why didnt Jonathan build the IBAKA PORT?? Why didn't he dredge the Calabar River? Babangida and Abacha made sure LNG was built in Bonny. Jonathan couldn't put a stone on Brass LNG. We need to begin holding our own leaders responsible. This useless victim mentality is allowing us tolerate their uselessness.

Below are some statistics. Like I said, if I have time later, I can give you a clearer picture on many of these issues.


NB
And to think about it, shouldn't we be more interested in outward traffic (Exports) than Inward traffic (imports).
Delta and Onne control 90% of outward traffic which means both of these ports are very well equipped to ship goods out of the country which we should be looking to take advantage of by exporting our goods as against complaining about Lagos ports handling imports.

honeychild:


I chose to import to Lagos because I figured that all these Igbo importers who import to Lagos must have a reason for doing that. I had no experience in importation and was not going to take the risk.

bakynes:

Is like most of the illiterates here don't know what they call Freight quotes and cost. Some many factors contribute to high freight cost like distance, insurance, security of the vessel.

Look at the coast line of Lagos to Europe where most of the things are imported from look at the coastline of Calabar,Onne and Warri you will understand that the Eastern ports are inland ports closer to the rest of Africa But far to Europe,Asia and America where most goods and merchandise are imported. Lagos is more closer to Europe.

Besides the Eastern coastline to other parts of Africa and to Europe is along the Gulf of Guinea that is full of sea pirates along the coast of Somalia.

As a business man why would I not prefer to collect my goods from Lagos and transport through road or rail to other parts of Nigeria than incure a huge freight cost of ships coming down from Western axis down to the Eastern axis.

Why do you think Some business men import Cars and other things to Cotonou and Lome and then bring them through the land border to Nigeria. The Freight cost is simply cheaper because Cotonou and Lome are closer to Europe than Lagos so likewise is Lagos closer to Europe than Calabar,Warri and Onne.

As far as Nigeria is concerned Onne,Calabar and PH ports were constructed majorly for Export of Coal and Crude oil not for Imports.

People that have used Onne will tell you it's simply expensive because of freight cost.

If the FG wanted to marginalize the SS or SE they won't build the ports in the first place. Maybe they would transport the Crude oil to Lagos and then ship it to the World.

bakynes:

Is like most of the illiterates here don't know what they call Freight quotes and cost. Some many factors contribute to high freight cost like distance, insurance, security of the vessel.

Look at the coast line of Lagos to Europe where most of the things are imported from look at the coastline of Calabar,Onne and Warri you will understand that the Eastern ports are inland ports closer to the rest of Africa But far to Europe,Asia and America where most goods and merchandise are imported. Lagos is more closer to Europe.

Besides the Eastern coastline to other parts of Africa and to Europe is along the Gulf of Guinea that is full of sea pirates along the coast of Somalia.

As a business man why would I not prefer to collect my goods from Lagos and transport through road or rail to other parts of Nigeria than incure a huge freight cost of ships coming down from Western axis down to the Eastern axis.

Why do you think Some business men import Cars and other things to Cotonou and Lome and then bring them through the land border to Nigeria. The Freight cost is simply cheaper because Cotonou and Lome are closer to Europe than Lagos so likewise is Lagos closer to Europe than Calabar,Warri and Onne.

As far as Nigeria is concerned Onne,Calabar and PH ports were constructed majorly for Export of Coal and Crude oil not for Imports.

People that have used Onne will tell you it's simply expensive because of freight cost.

If the FG wanted to marginalize the SS or SE they won't build the ports in the first place. Maybe they would transport the Crude oil to Lagos and then ship it to the World.

Sagay212:
The govt should try as much as possible to build at least two sea ports in the East where it is possible. They should even build airports for them so that this noise of marginalisation can stop. The noise too much. Let's see if they'll all go back to the east to do business like they have always claimed.

PapaBrowne:
Lets stop this victimization card we always play. We need to start asking our own leadership real questions.
I used to believe all the marginalization story until I started trying to understand the real issues myself.

I don't have the time now, but when I do I will give you proper analysis complete with data on our ports and the usage. And you'll find that our leaders in the SE and SS are lying to us to cover for their own failures. The story of propping up Lagos ports is all falsehood. Infact , on some parameters, Onne port actually trumps both Apapa and Tin an Ports. Combined, Lagos ports control just 57% in tonnage terms while Delta and Rivers and Calabar ports control 43%.

Ask an Onitsha trader why he shipped his goods to Lagos and the only reason is that his agent who is from Anambra state is located in Lagos. There are ships going to all the ports. We just dont use it. Our minds are just fixated on Lagos.
Infact the best maintained and most organised port in Nigeria is Onne port and it is not much more expensive than the Lagos ports.

Lets stop this useless victim mentality.

Why didnt Jonathan build the IBAKA PORT?? Why didn't he dredge the Calabar River? Babangida and Abacha made sure LNG was built in Bonny. Jonathan couldn't put a stone on Brass LNG. We need to begin holding our own leaders responsible. This useless victim mentality is allowing us tolerate their uselessness.

Below are some statistics. Like I said, if I have time later, I can give you a clearer picture on many of these issues.


NB
And to think about it, shouldn't we be more interested in outward traffic (Exports) than Inward traffic (imports).
Delta and Onne control 90% of outward traffic which means both of these ports are very well equipped to ship goods out of the country which we should be looking to take advantage of by exporting our goods as against complaining about Lagos ports handling imports.

IgboSubmarine:

tooth4tooth


You just gave an absolute wrong information

You just lied online

Those who liked your comments are dafts



Europe and The American continents are close to Lagos ports which is true but you did not give out the complete pictures




Now answer these 2 questions below

Which continent do we import the most from.? Asia(China) or Europe/US

Which is closer to Asia ( China ) and Middle East nations between Eastern ports and Western ports.?

aribisala0:
You are misdirecting yourself with these questions
The Status quo at the ports developed over time not overnight and at the dritcical moments in our history the bulk of our imports were from Europe. It is important to remember that imports may be measured in monetary value and also tonnage. It would be interesting to see the data but looking at our roads I do not see many vehicles or Trucks that are made in Asia even the Toyotas ets are American or European imports. Heavy machinery and industrial equipment for the oil industry was traditionally European or American. That was the situation until recently when we started importing more from China but by then the patterns have already been set and Lagos established first mover advantage which has led to a population explosion and the creation of the largest market. Humans are creatures of habit and the Lagos habit is firmly entrenched from the importer perspective. Wheteher we import more now in terms of tonnage from China would be interesting to find out but the market is firmly established in Lagos and that is where most importers want to be

IgboSubmarine:




Answer the questions first before we can continue

Let me repost it in order to help you and others understand better our complain.



Which continent do we import the most from.? Asia(China) or Europe/US


Which is closer to Asia ( China ) and Middle East nations between Eastern ports and Western ports.?



Why was Ibaka seaport at Akwa Ibom not built during Obasanjo's military era when it was supposed to be built alongside Tincan port

aribisala0:

I am not here to answer questions , do you feed me? Try and behave like an adult. The Ibaka claim is a one sided claim . I was alive and aware during Obasanjo's govenrment .Aba road was a single carriageway and I travelled that road several times.There was no Patani road and the Airforce Base used to be the PH airport. Budget in those days was to the order of 10 billion and had to be spread. Still he built that road to Enugu, and PH airport , Clearly the government decided on other priorities and there is always an opportunity cost to these choices .Govern ment is a continuum.If one government does not do it the next can. WHy did we build Abuja instead of a seaport or power plants or a rail network Government is hard and there will be opportunity costs.

Nigeria is a big place and everyone has complaints .What do they have in the North EAst from FG

shukuokukobambi:


You this clown can't even do your propaganda with some sense!! You say "Eastern ports aren't listed on international destinations of other countries" so where does the cargo imported through them come from? Jupiter?

Are you blind to see that those same ports you use to perpetuate your victim and persecution complex actually process import cargoes as well as export? Where does the cargo come from? Aba and Onitsha?

In fact, GEJ was president for 5 years and Diezani was transport minister for sometime. Why didn't he dredge your Niger for you? You had to go all the way to yaradua who spent less than 2 years, to apportion blame because it must always be other people's fault?!!

Try use your head to think a little before you start your crying and blaming games na!! Is that too much to ask?

aribisala0:

I am not here to answer questions , do you feed me? Try and behave like an adult. The Ibaka claim is a one sided claim . I was alive and aware during Obasanjo's govenrment .Aba road was a single carriageway and I travelled that road several times.There was no Patani road and the Airforce Base used to be the PH airport. Budget in those days was to the order of 10 billion and had to be spread. Still he built that road to Enugu, and PH airport , Clearly the government decided on other priorities and there is always an opportunity cost to these choices .Govern ment is a continuum.If one government does not do it the next can. WHy did we build Abuja instead of a seaport or power plants or a rail network Government is hard and there will be opportunity costs.

Nigeria is a big place and everyone has complaints .What do they have in the North EAst from FG

Ibaka Port was never constructed, purportedly on the advice of the then Chief Executive Officer of the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) and current Chairman of the ruling People’s Democratic Party (PDP) – Alhaji Bamanga Tukur.

IgboSubmarine:




You can keep ranting to console yourself but take note that as long as we can't import all manner of products through all our Eastern seaports, our desire and clamor for a separate nation will keep growing.


Anything the useless country must do to get those ports fully operational since we now import more from China which is closer to the Eastern seaports, should be done now to reduce our agitation before it is completely too late

aribisala0:
YOUR Eastern ports are there ports in your territory?

You are free to leave Nigeria once you follow due proccess. You will still have to import through Nigeria as you are landlocked.

You are yet to comply with the quit notice

IgboSubmarine:



Keep deceiving yourself thinking the non-Igbo people of SS are for One Nigeria.



Be rest assured that the Ijaws will kick you guys out of the SS.

aribisala0:
That is not your concern.
Even if they are not for one Nigeria are they for Biiafa?

You will remain landlocked

IgboSubmarine:



You are free to keep fooling yourself.

shukuokukobambi:


You this clown can't even do your propaganda with some sense!! You say "Eastern ports aren't listed on international destinations of other countries" so where does the cargo imported through them come from? Jupiter?

Are you blind to see that those same ports you use to perpetuate your victim and persecution complex actually process import cargoes as well as export? Where does the cargo come from? Aba and Onitsha?

In fact, GEJ was president for 5 years and Diezani was transport minister for sometime. Why didn't he dredge your Niger for you? You had to go all the way to yaradua who spent less than 2 years, to apportion blame because it must always be other people's fault?!!

Try use your head to think a little before you start your crying and blaming games na!! Is that too much to ask?

IgboSubmarine:




You can keep ranting to console yourself but take note that as long as we can't import all manner of products through all our Eastern seaports, our desire and clamor for a separate nation will keep growing.


Anything the useless country must do to get those ports fully operational since we now import more from China which is closer to the Eastern seaports, should be done now to reduce our agitation before it is completely too late

Ereolamide:
What conspiracy are you guys talking about?

You mean Yoruba leaders woke up one morning and decide to truncate success of those eastern ports, are they responsible for the corruption bedevilling the NPA for not dredging the shallow ones, what procedural steps have Yorubas initiated that stopped shippers to use the eastern ports?

In a country where billions has been spent on electricity, roads, hospitals and other social amenities with absolutely nothing to show for it, the average ones are stifled with corruption, some bastards are blaming Yorubas?

Majority of pigbos are just cursed with envy, its not our fault that the British decided to build a fairly good port in Lagos, at least they were in calabar where they transport your forefathers as slaves before moving to Lagos, so how are Yorubas also responsible for this? Lagos state is building another one, Ondo and Ogun are about to start Olokola, when ships start berthing blame Yorubas as usual without holding your worthless leaders responsible.

You guys won't blame the failures of basic infrastructure on Nigeria but Yorubas, it's a well known fact that your useless uncles truncated the working system we had before this unitary government.

And to that old fool 'patience' Ibadan was the second most populous city in Nigeria during the regional system, no city was her equal, your fathers and uncles literally had their lives shaped there, any rot in Ibadan was due to migration to Lagos as the federal capital, Yoruba held Ibadan as their first and Lagos second at that period of time, and as it stands today none of your useless hamlets in the east can compare with Ibadan.

Bastards

Ereolamide:
What conspiracy are you guys talking about?

You mean Yoruba leaders woke up one morning and decide to truncate success of those eastern ports, are they responsible for the corruption bedevilling the NPA for not dredging the shallow ones, what procedural steps have Yorubas initiated that stopped shippers to use the eastern ports?

In a country where billions has been spent on electricity, roads, hospitals and other social amenities with absolutely nothing to show for it, the average ones are stifled with corruption, some bastards are blaming Yorubas?

Majority of pigbos are just cursed with envy, its not our fault that the British decided to build a fairly good port in Lagos, at least they were in calabar where they transport your forefathers as slaves before moving to Lagos, so how are Yorubas also responsible for this? Lagos state is building another one, Ondo and Ogun are about to start Olokola, when ships start berthing blame Yorubas as usual without holding your worthless leaders responsible.

You guys won't blame the failures of basic infrastructure on Nigeria but Yorubas, it's a well known fact that your useless uncles truncated the working system we had before this unitary government.

And to that old fool 'patience' Ibadan was the second most populous city in Nigeria during the regional system, no city was her equal, your fathers and uncles literally had their lives shaped there, any rot in Ibadan was due to migration to Lagos as the federal capital, Yoruba held Ibadan as their first and Lagos second at that period of time, and as it stands today none of your useless hamlets in the east can compare with Ibadan.

Bastards