hopefulLandlord:


listen please, OP opened this thread about killing and talked about animals which you actually said wasn't referring to animals, I then call your attention to the midianite and Canaanite infants and you said you want to have a sensible discussion on it only for you to ask me if Yahweh exists?

can't you see its obvious you're trying very hard not to have a discussion by focusing on red herrings?

existence of a character doesn't have anything to do about its discussion

he said "Thou shall not kill" in a book, then commanded them to kill IN THE SAME BOOK!!!

how is its existence now so important? this is why certain atheists start losing patience sometimes, you said you want a discussion but your posts so far shows you're interested on another discussion entirely

hopefulLandlord:


Hehehehehehehehe, you're moving the goalposts

one can criticise the hypocrisy of a TV character, isn't it?

one can say "Jon snow shouldn't have said A and said B again", that doesn't mean such a person is saying Jon Snow is real

some claim Socrates is real and some say he's not, both sets have criticisms and praises or both for the character "Socrates"

you take Yahweh to be real and I see "it" as a fictional character too many people believe is real

I honestly don't know what you're getting at here

People do not attack fictional characters except they are mad.
And you attack with great zeal!!!

Even the average mad man has better composure to things he considers "out of touch"

butterflylion:


Every time I sit and deeply think and no matter how deeply I try to think about it I cannot understand why anyone would hate a non existent being or thing or place. It's a case study for science to unravel.

Why would someone hate something that does not exist? Science needs to study this.

Can hate become so pure and tangible that it can make ones fiction and mental denial a reality? Case study for science.

An2elect2:
People do not attack fictional characters except they are mad.
And you attack with great zeal!!!

Even the average mad man has better composure to things he considers "out of touch"

[/i]

hopefulLandlord:


why not check the post yourself now? does it look like a proper post? come on you're not new on Nairaland or are you having a discussion with me or someone else?

701ecilana:

I know what is wrong. There are two personalities involved. A demon taking the body of a person as a host and the consciousness (albeit suppressed) of the host.

Satan has succeeded in lying to these people that God or anything supernatural doesn't exists. But he lives inside of them. Anytime their host comes across God-talk the hate satan and demons have for Yahweh stirs them up to fight it. But, they forget they say God doesn't exist, then why fight those who believe he does? Why not just give up on us?

How much do they talk about Shrek and Pokahontas in this forum? Why only Yahweh.

The fire of hell awaiting demons is what is responsible for the hate.

hopefulLandlord:


please, refrain from quoting me on this thread, I'm discussing with 701ecilana alone, if you pay attention you'll see that I haven't quoted anyone else

Scared? you won't be mobbed! Just learn to think straight! It's really simple if you look at it

An2elect2:
Scared? you won't be mobbed! Just learn to think straight! It's really simple if you look at it

hopefulLandlord:


I'm not the type that runs away when outnumbered check religious threads on front-page and see me replying 10s of people on the same topic

I'm just focusing on her cuz she requested for sensible discussion with me and I obliged

hopefulLandlord:


listen please, OP opened this thread about killing and talked about animals which you actually said wasn't referring to animals, I then call your attention to the midianite and Canaanite infants and you said you want to have a sensible discussion on it only for you to ask me if Yahweh exists?

can't you see its obvious you're trying very hard not to have a discussion by focusing on red herrings?

existence of a character doesn't have anything to do about its discussion

he said "Thou shall not kill" in a book, then commanded them to kill IN THE SAME BOOK!!!

how is its existence now so important? this is why certain atheists start losing patience sometimes, you said you want a discussion but your posts so far shows you're interested on another discussion entirely

hopefulLandlord:

listen please, OP opened this thread about killing and talked about animals which you actually said wasn't referring to animals, I then call your attention to the midianite and Canaanite infants and you said you want to have a sensible discussion on it only for you to ask me if Yahweh exists?

hopefulLandlord:


seriously? is this proper discussion? is this your idea of a proper discussion?

start a topic and pull something else as a way of dodging, I'm actually kinda frustrated cuz I hold you in a higher regard, you won't see me discussing like this with Felix.omor because I don't take him that seriously

"Thou shall not kill" is in a book, the part where the same character told them to kill is in the same BOOK!

how does the existence of the characters in the book have anything to do with the discussion about what's written there?

I seem not to get it, honestly and you're now Calling me a misotheist and demon? a misotheist is a theist FFS

aarrrggghhhh!!!!

701ecilana:



How is it redherring?

The Ops misrepresentation of the scriptures is what attracted me to this thread in the first place. "Thou shall not kill" was never meant for animals (God gave animals to men as food) but he made insinuations as though God commanded that animals shouldn't be killed, at this point i came in to let him know that that command was to humans not animals. Here you came in to say my God was Bipolar to command humans not to kill fellow humans only to turn back and commanded that we kill the midianites infants.

I then asked you if you indeed wanted us to have a discussion on the killing of the midianites, which you affirmed. To begin, i asked you being who i know you to be if you believe there's God, you said no. On what premise then was i going to base my discussion on,
If God doesn't exist, yet commands real people in real times to kill real people.

You are the one shifting the foal post yet accusing me.

From God being Bipolar (note, only humans with reasonable senses can loose their minds and become bipolar) to have commanded that people shouldn't be killed to him turning round to kill the infants of Midian.

In your first point, you tried to bring to the forefront the wickedness and the callousness of Yahweh, by bringing in killing of infants.

From God killing infants to him not existing at all, to him being an imagery and fictitious being just like Satan. From then you moved to him being like a TV character just like Jon Snow.

Who is shifting the post Hope?

701ecilana:

I know what is wrong. There are two personalities involved. A demon taking the body of a person as a host and the consciousness (albeit suppressed) of the host.

Satan has succeeded in lying to these people that God or anything supernatural doesn't exists. But he lives inside of them. Anytime their host comes across God-talk the hate satan and demons have for Yahweh stirs them up to fight it. But, they forget they say God doesn't exist, then why fight those who believe he does? Why not just give up on us?

How much do they talk about Shrek and Pokahontas in this forum? Why only Yahweh.

The fire of hell awaiting demons is what is responsible for the hate.

hopefulLandlord:


I said "Your god is bipolar" I can criticise the character Allah using Quran, that doesn't mean I have to admit it exists before discussing such a god idea, why is this proving too difficult to understand?


seriously

butterflylion:


Lmao at Shrek and Pocahontas.

Every time the issue of Jesus is raised they raise the issue of Superman and ask us to prove superman does not exist and I wonder why they do not spend their time talking about superman. Why is God the issue?

God is found in the Bible which is a book.

Superman is found in comics which is a book

Superman is a subject if discussion on so many forums and people even dedicate whole blogs to talking about his abilities and all that.

Superman has movies about him.

God has movies about Him.

Yet they never talk about superman. No wonder Donald Trump pulled them out of the US military. They will spread delusion and hopelessness in the army when the US motto is IN GOD WE TRUST!

701ecilana:

Good points. They want people to believe God is imagery, yet there are all these imaginary characters they don't spend time insulting, only Jesus and his followers.

I take time to go into unchristian threads which are also supernatural, inside there these lots are comfortable with what is said, but Christian God is hell to them. Satan in yhe details.

hopefulLandlord:


I said "Your god is bipolar" I can criticise the character Allah using Quran, that doesn't mean I have to admit it exists before discussing such a god idea, why is this proving too difficult to understand?


seriously

butterflylion:


Satan in the details o. Invisible threads of deception.

701ecilana:

Good points. They want people to believe God is imagery, yet there are all these imaginary characters they don't spend time insulting, only Jesus and his followers.

I take time to go into unchristian threads which are also supernatural, inside there these lots are comfortable with what is said, but Christian God is hell to them. Satan in yhe details.

701ecilana:

Hopefullandlord, Bipolar is a mental disorder only traced to humans, if imaginary beings have Bipolar syndrome you can educate me.

Permit me to call only one person to throw more light
on this issue here after which i will kindly ask her to refrain from posting further.. The reason is, am not medically incline.

Cc: Dr Spacetacular. Pls Dockie, i need your help. Does imaginary beings have Bipolar syndrome too?

hopefulLandlord:


I said "Your god is bipolar" I can criticise the character Allah using Quran, that doesn't mean I have to admit it exists before discussing such a god idea, why is this proving too difficult to understand?


seriously

hopefulLandlord:


ever heard of Anthropomorphism?

butterflylion:


I am watching Emmanuel TV live now and on it is the live crusade in Paraguay. Come see people! Come see Bonafide medical doctors being healed of ailments they have been struggling with for 13yrs, 5 months, 5yrs, 3yrs and so on. Wheelchairs that were thrown away are over 100. Neck and back supports that were thrown away I no fit count.

A young man who lost his only sister and 3 friends in an accident which crippled him for 2yrs flung his lumber support and neck brace away after being prayed for and actual images of him in hospital after the accident and most recent scans and the dead sister with the smashed vehicle were beamed live and somebody dey here dey console himself say God is imaginary.

His spine snapped due to the accident and he needed lumber supports just to even sit on a wheel chair.

He should go and feed that crap to the people in Paraguay right now.

701ecilana:

Since God is fictional yet commanded a real event to happen how are you sure the medianites were killed based on this fictional God's command? Since the same book documents a fictional God this means the killing of the medianites was also fictional wouldn't you agree?

Since you say God does not exist then his actions, words, and everything else attributed to him also do not exist.

Can you show me actual historical proof of one medianite infant who was killed? You claimed God said all midianite infants should be put to death and so where is your tangible proof outside what was written in the Bible.

701ecilana:

I don't need to go far. Am a living testimony. Am glad one of them glorified God by posting my scare here.

Sir, if you knew me then, it will take a different kind of faith to believe i will ever use this leg to walk again without aids. Praise Jesus.

701ecilana:
No sir. Pls educate me on that. See? That's why i called Spacetacular.

hopefulLandlord:


can you tell our attention seeker to point to where I admitted midianite and Canaanite infants were killed for real? can he also point to how (if they're killed) proves anything? we are discussing a character FFS

its like saying Jack and Rose are definitely real people since there's a movie about them involving the worlds biggest ship at the time sinking

if the killings were true, there's no proof Yahweh ordered them, you guys are just dodging and dodging since, when do we start facing this very character? if I write a book claiming Mbombo ordered the Rwandan genocide, does prove Mbombo ordered it?

let's focus on the topic which is what's written, Chai!!!!

701ecilana:

When it says thou shall not kill, is it to humans or animals?

Guy you dey chop human meat?

You didn't see the part which the Bible says 'I give all animals to you as food?'

hopefulLandlord:


can you tell our attention seeker to point to where I admitted midianite and Canaanite infants were killed for real? can he also point to how (if they're killed) proves anything? we are discussing a character FFS

its like saying Jack and Rose are definitely real people since there's a movie about them involving the worlds biggest ship at the time sinking

if the killings were true, there's no proof Yahweh ordered them, you guys are just dodging and dodging since, when do we start facing this very character? if I write a book claiming Mbombo ordered the Rwandan genocide, does prove Mbombo ordered it?

let's focus on the topic which is what's written, Chai!!!!

You want me to.post where you said God ordered the killing of the Midianites infants?

I believe that is what occasioned this discussion. You said, Yahweh said thou shall not kill, yet he commanded us ti kill the midianite infants.
Were you implying that an Imaginary Yahweh ordered the killing of the imaginary midianites infants?

See eh, people are reading what we are typing here you know. I wouldn't have come in here in the first place if you didn't mention God ordering the killing of the midianites infants.

[quote author=hopefulLandlord post=59403011]
its like saying Jack and Rose are definitely real people since there's a movie about them involving the worlds biggest ship at the time sinking

menxer:


@bolded, The cannibals, lions, crocodiles, sharks, pitcher plants are of the same opinion.

701ecilana: