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Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by Flaghouse1: 1:47am On Aug 15, 2017
deolu2000:
If NERC n FG are sincere, they should licence willing suppliers and importers of meters so that we can easily get the product at a fee, instead of waiting for eternity on the promise of the DISCOs to meter customers for free wc has never been implemented all in the bid to keep swindling the electricity consumers through crazy estimated bills.


Sir,we already have meter manufactures in Nigeria, but lack of patronage from the disco who prefer international manufactures is stalling the rapid deployment of these meters to consumers.
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by fyneguy: 2:53am On Aug 15, 2017
If this's the case, Discos should release details of meters compatible with their billing system and consumers can ask vendors to supply.

For instance, Community Development Associations can request vendors to supply their areas, while the DISCOS install.

NERC should facilitate this, as it's the first step to achieving stable power supply.
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by fyneguy: 2:57am On Aug 15, 2017
Flaghouse1:



Sir,we already have meter manufactures in Nigeria, but lack of patronage from the disco who prefer international manufactures is stalling the rapid deployment of these meters to consumers.

This's no more an excuse.

The NERC with the other agency responsible for meter standardization should order DISCOS to install meters provided by consumers, in as much as it meets approved standard.

They should also publicize a list of all licensed vendors, for consumers to patronize.
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by igbanbajo(m): 2:59am On Aug 15, 2017
deomelo:




He gave the DISCOs N31 billion to supply meters and he's also preventing the DISCOs from monopolizing or sabotaging the metering system by allowing 3 parties to participate in the metering system.


The man was actually on the side of the public, read again and comprehend.

May God bless you for this clarification.
Many don't read nor comprehend posts before they comment on same.

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Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by Vivere: 3:48am On Aug 15, 2017
fyneguy:
If this's the case, Discos should release details of meters compatible with their billing system and consumers can ask vendors to supply.

For instance, Community Development Associations can request vendors to supply their areas, while the DISCOS install.

NERC should facilitate this, as it's the first step to achieving stable power supply.
Which DISCO will install pre-paid meters sourced from another company for you? Don't you realise they make more money from estimated bills? Why would they spoil market for themselves??
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by Vivere: 3:51am On Aug 15, 2017
fyneguy:
This's no more an excuse.

The NERC with the other agency responsible for meter standardization should order DISCOS to install meters provided by consumers, in as much as it meets approved standard.

They should also publicize a list of all licensed vendors, for consumers to patronize.
oga, please leave that side. The DISCOs know all the local meter manufacturing companies, and where they are located. NERC has issued directives so tay, it has even lost its voice. It is in the interest of DISCOs to issue estimated bills. They make more money that way. I applied for a pre-paid meter 4 months ago. Till today, all I hear are stories from the DISCO!
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by booblacain(m): 7:22am On Aug 15, 2017
SalamRushdie:
Fashola defending his thieving DISCOS again ..If metering is not a responsible of a service provider who's responsibility is it then ? This is like saying metering is not the responsibility of of a petrol station , Fashola for your information metering is only beneficial to the DISCO so customer pay for exactly what they use except ofcourse on Nigeria where Fashola allows them to sell darkness under the guise of estimated billing , Fashola has just confirmed that estimated bills will still be around for some time

Please read and understand what Fashola is saying. He did not say metering is not the responsibility of DISCOS, he said they do not have the monopoly to distribute meters. Fashola is simply opening the market to everybody though not anybody. This is good for the people.
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by deolu2000(m): 8:12am On Aug 15, 2017
Flaghouse1:



Sir,we already have meter manufactures in Nigeria, but lack of patronage from the disco who prefer international manufactures is stalling the rapid deployment of these meters to consumers.
So i think what Mr. Fashola is saying/proposing will really work if the FG can be sincere enough to make licensing of the meter manufacturers a smooth and workable process. Because i don't get it, whats the big deal in the Discos allowing me to sources for my meters from independent marketers while they only activate on their platform for me. This delay tactics by the discos simply show that not metering us is truely to their gain and a means of swindling n embezzeling on the customers.
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by Lalaska(m): 8:30am On Aug 15, 2017
So ehats in it for the non discos? I thought consumers are not supposed to pay for the meters
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by 7lives: 8:34am On Aug 15, 2017
Kingspin:
Useless country with empty leaders..

They are not empty, they are greedy, did you know that in some African countries like Uganda, people buy their electricity meter from electronics shop and call on power companies to come and connect them to the grid?.
Are you saying our government officials are not aware of this?, every situation must be exploited to enrich some pockets.
I hope they are sincere this time around.

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Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by murmee: 8:44am On Aug 15, 2017
middlebelter:


It appears you didn't read the article well.

He is on the side of the consumers and if free entrance into the supply and installation of prepoaid meter is allowed, you can be sure it will checked the cheating from the Disco finally.
Even if the Minister appears to be on the side of the people, NERC certainly isn't. Otherwise, the Agency should have made sure that people can get an approved and certified electric meters from sources other than the Discos. The Discos are unwilling and will do anything not to meter their consumers because they benefit more from estimated billings.

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Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by murmee: 8:47am On Aug 15, 2017
Juciano1:
All.you guys clapping for Fashola are you aware that Discos do not accept meters they do not issue and gazette? Is Fashola aware of this before playing to the gallery
NERC and not Fashola should be blamed for this. NERC is a very corrupt Agency and are not on the side of the people!

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Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by Flaghouse1: 8:50am On Aug 15, 2017
deolu2000:

So i think what Mr. Fashola is saying/proposing will really work if the FG can be sincere enough to make licensing of the meter manufacturers a smooth and workable process. Because i don't get it, whats the big deal in the Discos allowing me to sources for my meters from independent marketers while they only activate on their platform for me. This delay tactics by the discos simply show that not metering us is truely to their gain and a means of swindling n embezzeling on the customers.

Your postulation is very plausible, these manufacturers are there already, the discos refuse patronising them, that the intergrity and quality assurance of the meters are questionable due to local content input-which I feel was just a ploy to discredit the use of such meters with the sole aim of using estimated billing to grow their BOTTOMLINE astronomically at the detriment of the subscribers.

The issue has been dragging foot for over 3years now, the discos will tell you to pay for metres,upon payment. You find it difficult to get one allocated to you with the normal story of we are expecting metres, we do it in batches .you keep hearing this excuses for months ,until palms are greased before you are allocated one once the new batches are deployed.

My expectation is that there should be a synergy with the manufactures,discos and consumers to design a flow process that once the consumers pay,a notification with consumers details are forwarded to the nearest discos ,who In turn receive's the metre and do the necessary checks before installation,if well articulated the process should not take more than a month or two from payment to installation,they can be creative by engaging the services of KONGA AND JUMIA for delivery to discos with the required details of shipment.

We just complicate easy process in the country to the detriment of the common man,mind you developed countries are moving away from the traditional way of supply electricity to going green-solar energy,Tesla comes to mind.
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by murmee: 8:53am On Aug 15, 2017
fyneguy:
If this's the case, Discos should release details of meters compatible with their billing system and consumers can ask vendors to supply.

For instance, Community Development Associations can request vendors to supply their areas, while the DISCOS install.

NERC should facilitate this, as it's the first step to achieving stable power supply.
My dear, NERC will never facilitate such a thing. They dance to the music of Discos because of what they are getting!
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by murmee: 8:55am On Aug 15, 2017
Vivere:

Which DISCO will install pre-paid meters sourced from another company for you? Don't you realise they make more money from estimated bills? Why would they spoil market for themselves??
Exactly!
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by Flaghouse1: 8:56am On Aug 15, 2017
fyneguy:


This's no more an excuse.

The NERC with the other agency responsible for meter standardization should order DISCOS to install meters provided by consumers, in as much as it meets approved standard.

They should also publicize a list of all licensed vendors, for consumers to patronize.

The capitalist and corrupt tendencies in them will not make them allow this,meter manufactures have been in the country for years producing standardardised meters even before the creation of these gencos,discos and the so called transformers or transmission companies
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by deolu2000(m): 10:40am On Aug 15, 2017
Flaghouse1:


Your postulation is very plausible, these manufacturers are there already, the discos refuse patronising them, that the intergrity and quality assurance of the meters are questionable due to local content input-which I feel was just a ploy to discredit the use of such meters with the sole aim of using estimated billing to grow their BOTTOMLINE astronomically at the detriment of the subscribers.

The issue has been dragging foot for over 3years now, the discos will tell you to pay for metres,upon payment. You find it difficult to get one allocated to you with the normal story of we are expecting metres, we do it in batches .you keep hearing this excuses for months ,until palms are greased before you are allocated one once the new batches are deployed.

My expectation is that there should be a synergy with the manufactures,discos and consumers to design a flow process that once the consumers pay,a notification with consumers details are forwarded to the nearest discos ,who In turn receive's the metre and do the necessary checks before installation,if well articulated the process should not take more than a month or two from payment to installation,they can be creative by engaging the services of KONGA AND JUMIA for delivery to discos with the required details of shipment.

We just complicate easy process in the country to the detriment of the common man,mind you developed countries are moving away from the traditional way of supply electricity to going green-solar energy,Tesla comes to mind.
All these inadequacies still sterm frm insincerity on the part of the FG to enforce all their verbal options n work the talk and the continous milking of the customers at the back of the mind of the DISCOs. By and large, the customers are at their mercy and we can only hope, wc seem our last resort that sanity prevail on all sides soonest.
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by ceasare: 10:45am On Aug 15, 2017
oduastates:


The federal government needs to get out of the power business.
Let every state or region run its own power sector. Those who want the federal government to run it on their behalf can have it.


You can say this again my brother ! This is not rocket science!!
Let every local govt generate and distribute at will and FG shd just regulate!!!
Whoever wants FG's light then can have it.as for the metering I wonder why
The law cant be tweaked so everyone has access to the meters via 3rd parties
And not discos and maybe the cost can be retired by monthly deductions as subscribers
Pay for the next 3yrs......
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by Flaghouse1: 10:52am On Aug 15, 2017
deolu2000:

All these inadequacies still sterm frm insincerity on the part of the FG to enforce all their verbal options n work the talk and the continous milking of the customers at the back of the mind of the DISCOs. By and large, the customers are at their mercy and we can only hope, wc seem our last resort that sanity prevail on all sides soonest.

Good talk bros, I am just appalled by the lack of political ,social and economical will of the government to follow through on its policies.

I pray we see changes soon, which I believe should be catalysef by the consumers nationwide spelling out the terms and conditions of operations of the discos and gencos, to be frank since inception of these energy provider I have not being able to quantify meaning and measurable achievement from them ,this makes me to resolve we go back to the status quo-NEPA and PHCN era ,at least then they have human face to solving issues ,though not the best due to the bane of corruption ,but Atleadt things get done faster.
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by fyneguy: 10:59am On Aug 15, 2017
murmee:
Even if the Minister appears to be on the side of the people, NERC certainly isn't. Otherwise, the Agency should have made sure that people can get an approved and certified electric meters from sources other than the Discos. The Discos are unwilling and will do anything not to meter their consumers because they benefit more from estimated billings.

The excuse hitherto was that the DISCOS did not have funds to purchase meters for their customers. By default, meters belong to the power suppliers. Even where a consumer pays, there's a repayment arrangement by consumption.

This is what NERC should review. Allow consumers own meters and ensure DISCOS install such meters. NERC should enforce it and sanction erring DISCOS.
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by fyneguy: 12:33pm On Aug 15, 2017
...and on a lighter note,


Caller : Hello good evening sir, is this NEPA office in Warri?

NEPA Staff : Yes, NEPA office, how can I help you today?

Caller : I don't have light but my neighbour across the road has light

NEPA Staff : Are you sure? Where are you calling from?

Caller : 99 Okere road, Warri

NEPA Staff : Hold on.

After 2 minutes, the NEPA Staff comes back to the phone, "Pls check on your neighour again."

Caller : I can't see light in his house again.

NEPA Staff : That's ok, anything we fit do for you again?

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Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by Juciano1(m): 12:40pm On Aug 15, 2017
murmee:
NERC and not Fashola should be blamed for this. NERC is a very corrupt Agency and are not on the side of the people!
We are saying the same thing. Fashola should lean on them very well the way he does on the opposition!
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by Kingspin(m): 4:16pm On Aug 15, 2017
7lives:


They are not empty, they are greedy, did you know that in some African countries like Uganda, people buy their electricity meter from electronics shop and call on power companies to come and connect them to the grid?.
Are you saying our government officials are not aware of this?, every situation must be exploited to enrich some pockets.
I hope they are sincere this time around.
I called them empty leaders because everyone of them have malfunctioning brain. So, a non functioning brain is equal to empty brain.
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by ernieboy(m): 7:17pm On Aug 15, 2017
Blue3k:


If it's licensed by NERC shouldn't they be legally obligated to accept. Now its left for government to enforce rule.
was it not the same govt that said consumers should not pay estimated bills if they are not metered, but the discos disconnected such customers still and the govt did not sanction them.
Re: Metering Of Customers Not Exclusive Right Of Discos – Fashola by Blue3k(m): 7:21pm On Aug 15, 2017
ernieboy:

was it not the same govt that said consumers should not pay estimated bills if they are not metered, but the discos disconnected such customers still and the govt did not sanction them.

Maximum Demand Customers.

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