IamLEGEND1:
Ser Jamie 'Phelps' Lannister and Bronn 'lochte' of the blackwater for the Olympic gold.

those two can swimmmmmmmmmmmmm
fish phelps day learn

Chysler:



They are Just Paving way for SAM TARLY to be lord of the Reach and Highgarden. Remember Sam already left the citadel at old town and will probably end up learning of his fathers death and going home to claim his succession since the lineage of tyrells are gone.... Remember also the significance of the valyrian sword his father refused to hand over to him as his heir which he took while riding with Gilly to old town.... I see Sam becoming lord of the Reach and HighGarden

He's still bound to his oath as a sworn brother of the night watch.

I don't get d reason why people are now shouting Dany is brutal nd shii, u guys are d same calling her names nd mocking her for not fighting bk as Cersie is outsmarting her now she get d upper hand nd u start complaining.
Some even argue Cersie won't do up to that if she has dragon. Some saying she was like that due to what she's gone through OK tell me what as Cersie gone through when she went to d witch to know her future she was literally telling d witch she's gona have her head cut off if she fail to answer her(is that not brutal intention from such young age). Tell me what as she gone through in s1 ep1 when Jamie push Bran from d towar she don't even flinch or show consern as been a mother too tell me z that not brutality.
Cersie is naturally brutal she's not like that cux of what she's gone through that her nature.

Nihilist:


I'm not going to speculate because Cersei does not have 3 dragons. Likewise, I don't know what Danaerys would have done if she was in Cersei's shoes.

What I know is that Danaerys is equally brutal to her enemies.

Let me remind you of some of the things Danaerys has done -

She roasted that witch -

She crucified thousands in Mereen including entire families - for absolutely nothing in the end

Roasted the conclave of Khals

Her dragons have killed innocents including Children

Roasted the Lanister soldiers

Roasted the tarlys

How is this person different to Cersei?

maybe u are watching back of tv.

she rosated the witch on what condition?

the people of meeren were Rebels and u know what they did before she roasted them.

she locked those dragon up because of these dont be sillly.

Tally deserve whatever they got afterall dany gave them option

weedtaker:
Dis wan wey jon snow de travel go find white walker, shey him no go fvck dany again ?

Na only to fvck you wan watch?

Skookum:


He's still bound to his oath as a sworn brother of the night watch.

Daenerys or jon can relieve him of that oath. Remember ser jorah mormont has good memories of sam.

Nihilist:


I'm not going to speculate because Cersei does not have 3 dragons. Likewise, I don't know what Danaerys would have done if she was in Cersei's shoes.

What I know is that Danaerys is equally brutal to her enemies.

Let me remind you of some of the things Danaerys has done -

She roasted that witch -

She crucified thousands in Mereen including entire families - for absolutely nothing in the end

Roasted the conclave of Khals

Her dragons have killed innocents including Children

Roasted the Lanister soldiers

Roasted the tarlys

How is this person different to Cersei?

i read some comment and I'm like WTF
Wats the purpose of dragons in wars? To play with ur enemies. There is a saying that if the sinners are being purbished, the righteous too will share out of it. Danny killing innocent in mereen is a case but she didn't not cos she wanted to but cos she has no choice and she was more of a revolutionary there abolishing slavery and all.
Sam father got his reward for betraying house tyrell and his son thinks the same way as his father cos that seems to be his mentor
Cercie on the other hand is portrayed to us as a person who fights for wat she wants and doesn't give a heck even going to the extreme to get it. Blowing up the high septon was necessary but other lords and people there ( remember she was the one that gave the high septon high power and authority to f-uck up queen maggie(lol) but it back fired on her and she messed up the whole thing

The thing there is everyone is acting on wat they think is right for them and the people( but not cercie; remember she said the lion doesn't concern itself with the opinion of the sheeps) wat I think it means is we are the only ones that matters, every other person can be killed or used.

Danny can bring hell on cercie directly if she wants to but it's not going to happen cos she has concern for people's opinion

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fish phelps day learn

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bayulll011:


she rosated the witch on what condition?

She burnt a witch who seized the opportunity for revenge after the Dothraki killed all her people, destroyed her place of worship, and then ran a triple carriage train on her.

A person motivated by fairness as you lot like to pretend Danerys is, would have at least recognised that the score was now 1-1, and that her husband was the first to do.

the people of meeren were Rebels and u know what they did before she roasted them.

the masters of Mereen were slavers, and she killed them in a brutal fashion for refusing to abandon their trade simply because a random girl said they had to do so. She crucified all the masters of Mereen along the coast line. Eventually the very slaves came to tell her that her intervention had actually made their lives worse. Eventually Slavery is more or less restored in Mereen. All that killing and bloodshed...for nothing.

The same way she betrayed the masters of Astapor to get the unsullied.

Tally deserve whatever they got afterall dany gave them option

If I randomly came up to you today, point a gun and tell you to kneel down or die, and then blow out your brains because you refused, can I say you deserved to have your brains all over the pavement?

PreacherX:
They won't !

How do u know his?

opestein:

Cercie on the other hand is portrayed to us as a person who fights for wat she wants and doesn't give a heck even going to the extreme to get it.

Danaery's only motivation to conquer Westeros is the fact that her Grandfather used to be king there.

She had never seen the place before(at least in the show) and only knew 3 people who knew what Westeros was like.

Yet she was willing to crucify and burn her way across the continent, simply because the throne used to be her grandfather's, and now she believes it should be hers.

But Cersei is the only one "who fights for what she wants and doesn't give a heck, even going to the extreme to get it"

Nihilist:


Danaery's only motivation to conquer Westeros is the fact that her Grandfather used to be king there.

She had never seen the place before(at least in the show) and only knew 3 people who knew what Westeros was like.

Yet she was willing to crucify and burn her way across the continent, simply because the throne used to be her grandfather's, and now she believes it should be hers.

But Cersei is the only one "who fights for what she wants and doesn't give a heck, even going to the extreme to get it"

so are u telling me if ur dad used to be king of a continent, u won't find means of claiming ur tittle?
And u think because cercie fights for wat she wants and goes on to killing anybody she think is a potential threat, she's a good person? Then if that's the case little finger is a righteous man considering he didn't kill anyone (except that Sansa aunt that is psycho) but only manipulate events and people

Reading some comments am like WTF blind argument

opestein:
so are u telling me if ur dad used to be king of a continent, u won't find means of claiming ur tittle?
And u think because cercie fights for wat she wants and goes on to killing anybody she think is a potential threat, she's a good person? Then if that's the case little finger is a righteous man considering he didn't kill anyone (except that Sansa aunt that is psycho) but only manipulate events and people

Cersei's husband used to be king of the continent. Cersei's 2 sons used to be king of the continent.

Why is Cersei bad for wanting the throne and killing anybody who stands in her way, where Danerys who you think is good is doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING?

Nihilist:


She burnt a witch who seized the opportunity for revenge after the Dothraki killed all her people, destroyed her place of worship, and then ran a triple carriage train on her.

A person motivated by fairness as you lot like to pretend Danerys is, would have at least recognised that the score was now 1-1, and that her husband was the first to do.



the masters of Mereen were slavers, and she killed them in a brutal fashion for refusing to abandon their trade simply because a random girl said they had to do so. She crucified all the masters of Mereen along the coast line. Eventually the very slaves came to tell her that her intervention had actually made their lives worse. Eventually Slavery is more or less restored in Mereen. All that killing and bloodshed...for nothing.

The same way she betrayed the masters of Astapor to get the unsullied.




If I randomly came up to you today, point a gun and tell you to kneel down or die, and then blow out your brains because you refused, can I say you deserved to have your brains all over the pavement?

during the medieval times, it was kill or be killed but the only difference is the reason for killing.
Will u free a witch after killing ur husband and making u barren? It was her husband that killed her people not her, so ur score is invalid

She had a dialogue with the masters before proceeding with her actions. She told them to abandon slavery which some obeyed and some flee. So she saying they should abandon slavery is unwise? Or u think slave trade is a good business? Or u think it is humane? C'mon

She didn't betray those masters, they got wat they asked for. And she set the unsullied free and they decided to follow her on their own free will

Like I said earlier, during those times, u know wat u get if u disobey a king or queen( u know it's death) u can't compare now with then, we are civilize people and there are human right activists that fight for human right.
A monarch has the absolute authority back then

E b like say na back of tv me I dey watch so,with all these analysis. Anyways,wonder why I feel Cersei is only trying to make Jaime "loyal" by telling her something is in her belle,who knows,might be wrong though.
And em,I see Jon riding both Dany and maybe Drogon,if he survives his avengers journey sha.

Danny is more considerate than cersei, there are many instances in the movie that proves this.

Cersei has no soul, period!

Nihilist:


Cersei's husband used to be king of the continent. Cersei's 2 sons used to be king of the continent.

Why is Cersei bad for wanting the throne and killing anybody who stands in her way, where Danerys who you think is good is doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING?

cercie husband overthrew the king, that's like a coup, and since its monarchy, the throne is suppose to pass to the next person in the family. That's why Robert tried to eliminate all the targaryans so no body can come claim the throne which he failed at
Robert is like a military head of state(imposed himself as king) while the targaryan are monarchs
And everyone knows her sons are Lannister, they are not suppose to smell the throne, so how do u justify her deceiving everyone?

And Danny isn't doing the same with cercie, if she is, cercie would have turned to grilled chicken by now

Nihilist:


She burnt a witch who seized the opportunity for revenge after the Dothraki killed all her people, destroyed her place of worship, and then ran a triple carriage train on her.

A person motivated by fairness as you lot like to pretend Danerys is, would have at least recognised that the score was now 1-1, and that her husband was the first to do.



the masters of Mereen were slavers, and she killed them in a brutal fashion for refusing to abandon their trade simply because a random girl said they had to do so. She crucified all the masters of Mereen along the coast line. Eventually the very slaves came to tell her that her intervention had actually made their lives worse. Eventually Slavery is more or less restored in Mereen. All that killing and bloodshed...for nothing.

The same way she betrayed the masters of Astapor to get the unsullied.




If I randomly came up to you today, point a gun and tell you to kneel down or die, and then blow out your brains because you refused, can I say you deserved to have your brains all over the pavement?

SPARE ME ALL THE EPISTLLE.

THE WITCH WAS SHOWN MERCY BY DANY WHEN ONE OF DROGO MEN WANTED TO TAKE HER.

A WICTH WILL ALWAYS BE A WITCH THAT WILL SHOW NO MERCY.

DON'T EVER COMPARE DANY WITH CERCEI.

CERSEI COMMITTED GENOCIDE WHICH IS TO ME IS UNFORGIVABLE.

DANY ALL GIVE OPTIONS,SHE KILLS AT THE LAST RESORT.

BOTH ASTAPOR,MAREEN WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HER.

YOU CANT BLAME HER WHEN SHE DID THE NEEDFUL

bayulll011:


SPARE ME ALL THE EPISTLLE.

THE WITCH WAS SHOWN MERCY BY DANY WHEN ONE OF DROGO MEN WANTED TO TAKE HER.

Actually she'd been raped thrice before Danaerys intervened.

opestein:
cercie husband overthrew the king, that's like a coup, and since its monarchy, the throne is suppose to pass to the next person in the family. That's why Robert tried to eliminate all the targaryans so no body can come claim the throne which he failed at
Robert is like a military head of state(imposed himself as king) while the targaryan are monarchs
And everyone knows her sons are Lannister, they are not suppose to smell the throne, so how do u justify her deceiving everyone?

Gbola5 please educate this man on how the Targaryens came to power in the first place.

Nihilist:


Cersei's husband used to be king of the continent. Cersei's 2 sons used to be king of the continent.

Why is Cersei bad for wanting the throne and killing anybody who stands in her way, where Danerys who you think is good is doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING?

are you serious dude denerys is a lot more better them cersei lannister. Nobody is portraying denerys as the complete epitome of good but c'mon man you're playing the game of thrones and it's not fair. It was Ned Starks naivety that got him killed playing this game. I don't even know why this argument is being held here the Sept of Baelor was a no no man don't forget denerys hasn't invaded kings landing with her 3 dragons because that would basically be a Sept of baelor 2.0^12
Knowing cersei she would have done that if she only had rheagal the smallest dragon
Which person in KL doesn't serve cersei out of fear apart from qyburn the sycophant asslicker

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jonbellion:
are you serious dude denerys is a lot more better them cersei lannister. Nobody is portraying denerys as the complete epitome of good but c'mon man you're playing the game of thrones and it's not fair. It was Ned Starks naivety that got him killed playing this game. I don't even know why this argument is being held here the Sept of Baelor was a no no man don't forget denerys hasn't invaded kings landing with her 3 dragons because that would basically be a Sept of baelor 2.0^12
Knowing cersei she would have done that if she only had rheagal the smallest dragon
Which person in KL doesn't serve cersei out of fear apart from qyburn the sycophant asslicker

I keep hearing what Cersei might have done.

Nobody is talking about she's actually done that is significantly worse than Danaerys actions.

How is Cersei bad and Danaerys good? Tell me. I want to hear.

Especially when in the last episode Varys and Tyrion are so alarmed about her display of homicidal tendencies, that they get a scene to discuss the subject.

Nihilist:


Gbola5 please educate this man on how the Targaryens came to power in the first place.

they conquered the seven kingdom except dorne( alliance by marriage) and there wasn't a king in kingslanding when they got there. They stated the dynasty there so wat are u saying?
They only made the seven kings pledge loyalty to them even though it may be through war. So I'm waiting for ur point

opestein:
they conquered the seven kingdom except dorne( alliance by marriage) and there wasn't a king in kingslanding when they got there. They stated the dynasty there so wat are u saying?
They only made the seven kings pledge loyalty to them even though it may be through war. So I'm waiting for ur point

You're asking me what I'm saying when you clearly state that they conquered the seven kingdoms.

So Danerys has a right to chase a throne her ancestors took by force, but Cersei doesn't have the right to continue the dynasty her husband started after taking the throne by force?

Nah bruh.

What are YOU saying?

Godstraight:
I wouldn't be shocked if they ain't even mentioned throughout the next two episodes,that is how shocking the writing has become

Why should they show Grey worm when he has no role to play ATM? In all their discussions after taking Casterly Rock, there is no mention of the Unsullied meaning they have no part to play, they could be marching back to Dragonstone for all we know. It's a 60 minute episode FFS

Nawa for una o

Nihilist:


I keep hearing what Cersei might have done.

Nobody is talking about she's actually done that is significantly worse than Danaerys actions.

How is Cersei bad and Danaerys good? Tell me. I want to hear.

Especially when in the last episode Varys and Tyrion are so alarmed about her display of homicidal tendencies, that they get a scene to discuss the subject.

I don't think anybody said denerys is 'good" morality in AWOIAF and in the real world aren't exactly black and white you know

Oasis007:




The same Joffrey that pleaded for mercy before Arya?! LOL!

They are both Monsters..... and Arya will never be treated like a Fool - coz that not her!

That happened when Joffrey was yet to be crowned, why didn't she try it after Coronation and let's see if her head won't be used to play ball on the streets of Kingslanding.

Let's be objective in our arguments

Magnifico2000:

If Arya were to be d one held captive by the lannisters in kingslanding, joffrry and cersei would have been long dead. Arya will never write that letter to Robbstark even under duress.

Why this sentiment?

If arya was in Kings landing, she would have been dead or imprisoned for being stubborn.

How exactly will she have killed cersei or joffrey?

jonbellion:
I don't think anybody said denerys is 'good" morality in AWOIAF and in the real world aren't exactly black and white you know

My original question was why Cersei is widely described on here as insane, while Danaerys who is just as brutal and power hungry gets a pass?