butterflylion:



Long story just to avoid doing a simple thing.

You do not have to believe in God before you can Show evidence for a claim you made which is that God is a human construct. Did you not k ow you did not believe in him before making the claim?

What has your claim got to do with a belief or lack of one? Your mumu is growing exponentially!

Of course God is a human construct that is why there is no God that can be shownto exist on its own without human input. If you know any God that exist on its own without human input then point to it. It shouldn't be difficult for you to do.

You keep spewing history which according to atheists can be falsified so I do not want to read your history, I want to see tangible proof that authenticated your history and not just your usual brainless rants.

What is this Olodo saying? So because History can be falsified means history is always false? Which part of the history I have presented have you falsified?

Even if you choose to focus on the Christian God then kindly show me who originated that God idea.

You no suppose dey this dense. For one who is able to rant like you do it is expected that at least you should be able to think alongside.

Even your rants are lousy so I expect no less from your thought process.

I've done that already but as the brainless teat that you are you've failed to see. The early disciples of Jesus and the early church fathers were the people that invented and founded the christian religion.

Na you make claim but na you dey run since from proving your claim. You ran until you had to say "proof of a claim does not necessarily need to follow a specific pattern" thereby defending theism instead of atheism when you atheists demand for specific proofs from theists before you believe. Do you even know how dumb that made you?

You killed atheism all alone with no help from me simply because you were desperate to run away from providing proof to your claim.

Dullardman go and sleep. Sense no fit you at all at all. Sense on you is like Eniola Badmus dressed in body hug.

At least am not a wuwuru fool like you that was busy yelling I made only one claim and I made it after you made me to make the claim. I asked you to provide evidence for your own claim and see the idoitic excuse you were giving as an excuse not to provide any claim. Anyway I don't expect anything much from an Olodo that worships his experience and delusions. The experience that you worship must truly be proud of you.

dalaman:


Of course God is a human construct that is why there is no God that can be shownto exist on its own without human input. If you know any God that exist on its own without human input then point to it. It shouldn't be difficult for you to do.



What is this Olodo saying? So because History can be falsified means history is always false? Which part of the history I have presented have you falsified?



I've done that already but as the brainless teat that you are you've failed to see. The early disciples of Jesus and the early church fathers were the people that invented and founded the christian religion.



At least am not a wuwuru fool like you that was busy yelling I made only one claim and I made it after you made me to make the claim. I asked you to provide evidence for your own claim and see the idoitic excuse you were giving as an excuse not to provide any claim. Anyway I don't expect anything much from an Olodo that worships his experience and delusions. The experience that you worship must truly be proud of you.

Bingo Abeg no go scatter your laptop keys Abi na your phone while ranting over something a few words which form a name and a few numbers which form a date and few images would have solved.

It's obvious you are so overloaded with hot air and just make silly claims out of the blue when you have no empirical evidence (according to atheism) to back it up with.

Isn't it a big let down that you who happens to be an atheist who always harp on evidential support could not conjour up even one to buttress your claim?

Instead you succeeded in playing advocate for atheism and theism out of desperation. You began fighting on the side of theism out of desperation

I told you before and I will say it again, turn in your brain. You are underutilising it!

butterflylion:


Bingo Abeg no go scatter your laptop keys Abi na your phone while ranting over something a few words which form a name and a few numbers which form a date and few images would have solved.

You've now graduated from.worshipping your deluded experience to projecting your madness on me abi? It is not everybody that is like you and does the crazy things that you do. Softy abeg make you no start to dey beat the people around you come claim say na me cause am because of argument on the Internet with someone you don't even know. Abeg calm down.

It's obvious you are so overloaded with hot air and just make silly claims out of the blue when you have no empirical evidence (according to atheism) to back it up with.

Provide the atheist book or decree that says that atheist only accept empirical evidence. Show me where atheism has made that claim. Oya am waiting.

Isn't it a big let down that you who happens to be an atheist who always harp on evidential support could not conjour up even one to buttress your claim?

Show me where I've stated that only empirical evidence cuts as evidence at all times.

Instead you succeeded in playing advocate for atheism and theism out of desperation. You began fighting on the side of theism out of desperation

I told you before and I will say it again, turn in your brain. You are underutilising it!

Na wah ooo. . Mr Olodo are you not tired of sounding like a broken record? I've asked you simple questions and you've refused to answer them only to come wailing with different excuses.

dalaman:


You've now graduated from.worshipping your deluded experience to projecting your madness on me abi? It is not everybody that is like you and does the crazy things that you do. Softy abeg make you no start to dey beat the people around you come claim say na me cause am because of argument on the Internet with someone you don't even know. Abeg calm down.



Provide the atheist book or decree that says that atheist only accept empirical evidence. Show me where atheist has made that claim. Oya am waiting.



Show me where I've stated that only empirical evidence cuts as evidence at all times.



Na wah ooo. . Mr Olodo are you not tired of sounding like a broken record? I've asked you simple questions and you've refused to answer them only to come wailing with different excuses.

Na small words dem dey take rate sense. But you type pages of stupidity and in that same stupidity you call others fools.

I shouldn't be calling you stupid. No not all. Not when you already did so yourself.

You became an advocate for theism in desperation. What a shame!

I dey feel for you sha but somehow you no know say you don turn yourself to mumu First Class.

Suddenly the weyrey no believe in evidence again but he is the same person who is has been wailing and chanting SHOW ME SHOW ME SHOW ME all over this thread.

What a calamity!

Sense dump on you!

butterflylion:


Na small words dem dey take rate sense. But you type pages of stupidity and in that same stupidity you call others fools.

I shouldn't be calling you stupid. No not all. Not when you already did so yourself.

You became an advocate for theism in desperation. What a shame!

I dey feel for you sha but somehow you no know say you don turn yourself to mumu First Class.

Now you've gone on an all out puerile rant like a mad dog. Abeg no start to dey beat the people wey dey around you ooo. I don tell you my own. Take am easy. Some antidepressants will do you some good at this point.

dalaman:


Now you've gone on an all out puerile rant like a mad dog. Abeg no start to dey beat the people wey dey around you ooo. I don tell you my own. Take am easy. Some antidepressants will do you some good at this point.

Says the 10 years in marriage man yet at 1.39 am he is still here ranting stupidity. Your family specified antidepressants must be effective on your iyawo.

butterflylion:


Says the 10 years in marriage man yet at 1.39 am he is still here ranting stupidity. Your family specified antidepressants must be effective on your iyawo.

Says the blockkheaded idiot that thinks everybody lives in the same time zone with him. Them no teach you say different time zones dey for this world for the school wey you attend? You think Nigerian time represents all the time of the world? Abeg go take some antidepressants before you start beating the people around you. It's obvious that you have gone mad.

dalaman:


Says the blockkheaded idiot that thinks everybody lives in the same time zone with him. Them no teach you say different time zones dey for this world for the school wey you attend? You think Nigerian time represents all the time of the world? Abeg go taje some antidepressants before you start beating the people around you. It's obvious that you have gone mad.

Hahahahahahahaha so you believe say you normal ba? People wey dey like you full psychia in case you no know. Those wey dey waka dey talk to themselves as if them dey debate hall in front of panel of judges.

Only you turn prosecutor for atheism here. Only you turn defence for theism here. Only you turn judge and jury all so you can run away from providing proof and you feel say you dey normal?

butterflylion:


Hahahahahahahaha so you believe say you normal ba? People wey dey like you full psychia in case you no know. Those wey dey waka dey talk to themselves as if them dey debate hall in front of panel of judges.

Only you turn prosecutor for atheism here. Only you turn defence for theism here. Only you turn judge and jury all so you can run away from providing proof and you feel say you dey normal?

You wey dey claim normal but no know say different times zones dey this world wetin that one make you na? No be original Olodo you don show yourself to be? You just dey repeat one thing over and over again like broken record, you no dey tire? It's 2 am in Nigeria now and you still dey Internet dey rant like dog wey don craze finish. Baba go take your antidepressants. 2am where you are and you are still ranting on the Internet. Is ranting and raving like a mad dog that important to you that you are still at it by 2am? No kill yourself oo. Abeg I no dey oo.

LoneVoice:
A Plea For Help

i sincerely plead with everyone in this forum to lend a helping hand to my case, as i am broken, confused and basically at the mercy of harsh realities
i am a final year student in a state polytechnic and a freelance computer engineer which has sustained me in school since year 2 as well as enabled me contribute my quota to my family.
since the recession began my little startup has faced little or no patronage(the case with everyone) and trust me being a fighter i forged on regarless of if i had cash or was cashless.

A couple of Bad Deals and an unfortunate work related accident has left me in debt to the tune of 89,000 and i am facing deadlines which have all left me shattered and confused. i am currently afraid of my creditors meanwhile my own debtors (3 in number have either absconded from town or blocked me from reaching them)
Two of my creditors have already threatened to block me from defending my Final project and writing my exams which i have seen happen to others before. i am totally fearful of having 5 years of struggle to see myself through school destroyed by this.

i plead with anyone with a listening ear to help me with whatever amount you can, nothing is to small or to big

i know lots of people take advantage of this kind of situation to prey on people's goodwill and profit irresponsibly but i am not of that stock ( i intend to dupe or scam no one), i have never gone as far as this before but with the weight on my shoulder,my fears and the realization that no one around wants to help me, i have no choice.

i dont care if i have money to feed or in my account, i have seen worse than that but i just want to clear up this debts and have peace of mind, focus on my final exams, look for innovative means of improving my little startup and contribute meaninfully to the society without anyone breathing down my back.

Please Help in anyway. Thank you FOR YOU AUDIENCE and Godbless you.

08103134383

It aren't so easy dude besides u promoting scammers
if you not one

1Sharon:


Wow you were so young

yeah sis, and it was extremely challenging, I felt like atheism's "Patient Zero", like I'm the only one with a disease in the whole world, no one to look up to as I have to forge my own path, the day I found out I wasn't alone was one of the happiest days of my life, it was like a huge burden was removed from my neck

butterflylion:


Hahahahahahahaha so you believe say you normal ba? People wey dey like you full psychia in case you no know. Those wey dey waka dey talk to themselves as if them dey debate hall in front of panel of judges.

Only you turn prosecutor for atheism here. Only you turn defence for theism here. Only you turn judge and jury all so you can run away from providing proof and you feel say you dey normal?

Funny how it's when dalaman destroyed your arguments you turned to insult. All you have are insults, no clear reasoning ability whatsoever, you just derailed this thread for your rubbish

obinna58:

It aren't so easy dude besides u promoting scammers
if you not one

Desperation bro
Ur correct anyway. Am taking down this account today

butterflylion:



tsk tsk tsk. Jumbo Dumbo unfortunately your fantasy has been destroyed by the same Dullardman on this very thread. You would do well to catch up.

He proved himself to be an unadulterated dolt. I wouldn't bother proving you to be same because you already have by jumping to the defence of someone who with his own mouth declared himself one.

I began calling you Jumbo Dumbo the moment I realised how silly you always talk.

LightandDarkness:


Funny how it's when dalaman destroyed your arguments you turned to insult. All you have are insults, no clear reasoning ability whatsoever, you just derailed this thread for your rubbish

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For the third time, who fvcking send this one?

butterflylion:



B4 nko? Is there anything else you can do besides watching? Intelligent contributions you cannot do so you better just sit and watch alright?

Intelligent contribution by you? Asking someone to prove your God exists sounds intelligent to u? What food did Felixomoron give u?

butterflylion:


All of you are a bunch of confused mofos men

Do you see the bolded words of yours? Dalaman is the one who does not believe God exists and there you are typing without reading and claiming I asked him to prove to me a God I believe does not exist. Do you even see your kolo?

Eyah now I know atheism is synonymous with confusion. You all type in a confused manner

Park well, stop indirectly looking for help. He does not believe your God exist and have given you reasons why he felt so. Now you want him to show u pictures of your so called non existent God? Is it his fault that you believe in man made ideas? Since you know your God does not exist why waste his time by asking him to prove your God for u?

Experience worshipper

frank317:


Park well, stop indirectly looking for help. He does not believe your God exist and have given you reasons why he felt so. Now you want him to show u pictures of your so called non existent God? Is it his fault that you believe in man made ideas? Since you know your God does not exist why waste his time by asking him to prove your God for u?

Experience worshipper

E pain the Dundee!

dalaman:


Of course God is a human construct that is why there is no God that can be shownto exist on its own without human input. If you know any God that exist on its own without human input then point to it. It shouldn't be difficult for you to do.



What is this Olodo saying? So because History can be falsified means history is always false? Which part of the history I have presented have you falsified?



I've done that already but as the brainless teat that you are you've failed to see. The early disciples of Jesus and the early church fathers were the people that invented and founded the christian religion.



At least am not a wuwuru fool like you that was busy yelling I made only one claim and I made it after you made me to make the claim. I asked you to provide evidence for your own claim and see the idoitic excuse you were giving as an excuse not to provide any claim. Anyway I don't expect anything much from an Olodo that worships his experience and delusions. The experience that you worship must truly be proud of you.

His God does not exist and he knows it already...he worships experience remember? The bad news is that he actually thinks he is intelligent

frank317:


Intelligent contribution by you? Asking someone to prove your God exists sounds intelligent to u? What food did Felixomoron give u?

You done even see food chop?

butterflylion:


E pain the Dundee!

Good to see u are now trolling... Lion butterfly, I saw the way u pounced into the thread like u had anything reasonable to say... Spewing trash that u worship experience and behind dalaman to show u picture of ur experience.
Pls stop embarrassing yourself all over the place.

butterflylion:


You done even see food chop?

Is this supposed to make me feel bad?

frank317:



His God does not exist and he knows it already...he worships experience remember? The bad news is that he actually thinks he is intelligent

See overdose of tramadol for my pain o

The guy says my God does not exist AND I KNOW IT! This kind projection na only witches dey do am. The guy dey try conjour by fire by force acceptance on me sha

Mofo Kolewerk!

frank317:




Is this supposed to make me feel bad?

How can something make you feel bad when you are feeling bad already and overdosing on tramadol untop my matter wey no concern you.

dalaman:
As a christian I never knew what it meant to be an atheist. How could someone say there was no God? How can anybody say that my sweet Jesus isn't real? Never personally sat down and thought about my religious beliefs and the concept of God at all. I was indoctrinated and I believed 1000000%. I grew up in a very conservative christian home, so everything I heard and was taught were true. Never questioned them, in fact I couldn't question them. I accepted everything and it became my reality.

The first time I met an atheist was like 10 years ago in Germany. It was surreal. I thought I met the "devil". The guy was so confident and kept dismissing God as a man made imaginary idea. I was so scared of him and the words and thoughts that were coming out of his mouth. I wished God will strike him with blindness. I hated him immediately but was more scared of him. I quickly ran away after listening to him for like 15 minutes.

We meet again after some days and he was at it again. Spewing his atheistic stuff. After a while I became friends with some of the Germans and realized that most of them were irreligious/ athiest. Non of them believed in God they way I did. Even those of them that believed in God had very different conception of who and what God is to them. We discuss religion sometimes and I got to realize that most of them were the same. It didnt bother me much since they were everywhere. I just prayed and hoped that God will touch them and show them his "light". I was a bit taken aback when I met black Germans that were athiest and irreligious then, some of my lectures were black Germans and were athiest. Some few friends in school as well. For some reason I felt I could give whites a pass for being athiest and irreligious but blacks? It didn't sit well with me that blacks were also athiest/irreligious because most of them were Africans like me whose parents or grand parents were from Ghana and Cameroun but were born there. I later had to accept them because they were everywhere. Only me and my few Nigerian and other African friends belived in God in the traditional way. I later met and became friends with some American soldiers that also believed in God the way I did(Traditionally). They were stationed in the city I was studying. They had a big military base there. Those Americans soldiers were the only whites that believed in God the way I did. Most of the Germans I knew personally were either athiest/irreligious or adherents of the Grill message. Very few were traditional christians like me. The church I attended then was an African church. After a while I settled in and had to accept things the way they were.

Then came nairaland. The first thing that made me start to think about the existence of God was the constant debates btw the christians and Muslims here. There was no Islamic section then and there were also very few athiest back then . I think there were only like 5 atheist if I could remember correctly(Seun, Kag, Nnfern, Mazaje, Jagunlabi). The debates were only btw christians and Muslims and also btw catholics and anti catholic protestants. The debates were always very hot and intense. I used to read for a while before I later registered .Those debates between the muslims and Christains made me to think about God's existence for the very first time in my life. I Never knew the bible had any flaws until the muslims pointed so many of them out. I refused to accept that they were flaws, I'll rather lie to my self than accept them. The muslims also did the same. When christians point out the flaws in the Koran, they also refused to accept, they'll twist, lie and offer the fringe of all explanations in order to explain it away. It was the same thing the christians were doing. The few athiest that were here kept pointing that out.

Then later the number of athiest picked up a bit and the arguments/debates started. Athiest started creating topics instead of just chipping in when muslims and christians were on each other's necks. The debates continued and I ended up changing my mind and doing away with my childhood indoctrination.

Lool most Germans are really atheists and confident about it. I was as shocked as you were too

Now that the butterflyinsect is out of the way, the thread can continue...

As a teenage Christian (not really a born again just a church goer like Mr butterfly) I always thought atheist were bad people but I also found their ideas amusing.
The fact was that I always knew something was not right with the whole Religious story, but men, I was always afraid of hell.
I tried a couple of times to repent and give my life to Christ but I was the type that didn't have the skill to lie to myself and claim that Jesus whom I have never felt has entered my heart(whatever that means).
I have always found people who don't believe in God interesting, I always wanted to know what makes their blood thick, but I would ask them questions just to make them help me confirm my doubts.
The fact is that I was an atheist church goer for a long time. Pastors made it worst... They just make noise every Sunday and everybody goes home only to come back next Sunday to hear another noise.
I guess I always new I would end up an atheist. There is nothing more liberating.

butterflylion:


How can something make you feel bad when you are feeling bad already and overdosing on tramadol untop my matter wey no concern you.

Ok, I am crying now... I have succeeded in making me feel bad... Now run along kid.

frank317:
Now that the butterflyinsect is out of the way, the thread can continue...

As a teenage Christian (not really a born again just a church goer like Mr butterfly) I always thought atheist were bad people but I also found their ideas amusing.
The fact was that I always knew something was not right with the whole Religious story, but men, I was always afraid of hell.
I tried a couple of times to repent and give my life to Christ but I was the type that didn't have the skill to lie to myself and claim that Jesus whom I have never felt has entered my heart(whatever that means).
I have always found people who don't believe in God interesting, I always wanted to know what makes their blood thick, but I would ask them questions just to make them help me confirm my doubts.
The fact is that I was an atheist church goer for a long time. Pastors made it worst... They just make noise every Sunday and everybody goes home only to come back next Sunday to hear another noise.
I guess I always new I would end up an atheist. There is nothing more liberating.

Na you remove me from the way?

I walk when I want and how I want. See meeting of comfort seekers! I sorry sorry o I sorry for all of Una (in femi kuti voice)

Frank317 you don begin smoke that shiiit again ba?

frank317:


Ok, I am crying now... I have succeeded in making me feel bad... Now run along kid.

Yes you made yourself feel bad and decided to take overdose thinking I made you feel bad.

Hehehehehehe the guy no even fit read Wetin he type.

dalaman:


You wey dey claim normal but no know say different times zones dey this world wetin that one make you na? No be original Olodo you don show yourself to be? You just dey repeat one thing over and over again like broken record, you no dey tire? It's 2 am in Nigeria now and you still dey Internet dey rant like dog wey don craze finish. Baba go take your antidepressants. 2am where you are and you are still ranting on the Internet. Is ranting and raving like a mad dog that important to you that you are still at it by 2am? No kill yourself oo. Abeg I no dey oo.

Lol... 2am, perhaps he woke up to pray... U know that's the time they wake up to talk to Yahweh to help them scare demons away

butterflylion:


Yes you made yourself feel bad and decided to take overdose thinking I made you feel bad.

Hehehehehehe the guy no even fit read Wetin he type.

Sorry my autocorrect changes u to I except I edit.. but I can see that the error amused you... Nice to know I made u feel good.

butterflylion:



Na you remove me from the way?

I walk when I want and how I want. See meeting of comfort seekers! I sorry sorry o I sorry for all of Una (in femi kuti voice)

Frank317 you don begin smoke that shiiit again ba?

Lol...