hensben:
I did psychology as a course but I studied pharmacology.

How did you manage to graduate from a department like pharmacology with this your hen'sbrain?

No Herrera? Hmmm

LoRdCaT:
How did you manage to graduate from a department like pharmacology with this your hen'sbrain?

Na God oo. I was even one of the best. No joke.

hensben:
Shvt up we don pass this argument since. You emotional pre.ek

You are an I.diot, any body arguing with you has time. When did you start watching football. brainu okuku, when did Micheal Owen My Hero ever won the world best PLAYER? It mpataka.

dopeJemi:


why is pogba not world class?

I can see you have been using Fifa pro 11 to justify why pogba can be referred to as a world-class player however what you have failed to realise is that those in that list have been consistent in their performance for years,..... asides them appearing on that list.

A world-class player for me is someone who has consistently shown a skill or attribute that puts him or her in the highest class in the world.

Dopejemi....what can you tell us poorgba does in particular when he plays to be called a world-class player?

Poorgba for me is very talented but hasnt delivered consistently enough in the world of football to be regarded as a world class talent. If he will get there someday is another debate entirely.........if I believe he can be a world player tomorrow....Yes I do but, only if he chooses to do those simple things which always makes him play better and look like a class player.

Take a look at what some of your guys think of poorgba here, and I have started digging post yet......

sinizia:


Pogba's nonchalant, lackadaisical and showboating attitude is his greatest demerits and the reason I never wanted him. Second season is about to start and he's the same ol' limelight-craving teenager. There's is a reason why I'd always want players like Matuidi or hardly criticise a player like Roy Keane. I hate showboating with passion and these serious aforementioned players don't have it. It's the reason why I love Hererra.

I'll continue to reiterate that until he realises that doing simple things and helping his team-mates is the best to fulfil potential, he'll end up another bundle of talent that never got to live up to his hype.

Fabregas at his age was already a midfield kingpin, passing opponents out of the park and sharing assists like say na national cake. He did all those things without the unnecessary baggage of showmanship.

You can choose to always protect Pogba all you want, I won't. I'll criticise him and praise him as well. Sugarcoating words coz he costs us 89m ain't my style.

diadem10:


Well, sowwie if you can't see it but at least you've seen how Pogba often looks out of sort against any decent midfield with a maestro. Even in the England friendly match where he was praised to high heaven, he was back to his usual folly immediately Lallana came on and that was Lallana, who's not even a top maestro.

The best Pogba can attain is a top creative box-box 8, ala Yaya toure/Gerrard but never a maestro.

AdisaOwala:


Lol

I no too dey reason pre-season friendlies...hence my perceived "observation" mode.

Atleast some other people don dey realise say Pogba na liability to the side - I wasn't even the 1st person to criticize him.



Does this mean that the metrics for rating a player who cost 5m should be the same with one who costs 50m?

AdisaOwala:


Mkitaryan has operated majorly as a winger - his presence in the side hasn't really had anything to do with Pogba or vice-versa...

My question remains thus : Bearing in mind his indifferent form as a #10 / his indirect "complaints" as regards playing in a pivot (which has been evidenced by his positional indiscipline & laziness), what is Pogba's best position in the interest of the team?



Considering the fact that Adabowale has failed to turn up in virtually all away matches (and even some at OT) vs top sides, I don't exactly share your sentiments...

One could also have said that : Assuming he played, he woulda attempted to "over-do" & showboat in Midfield (in typical fashion) - killing whatsoever chances we might have had to counter.

larride:


It's only logical to start with the same line up and see what they can do away from home. I'm expecting a comfortable and emphatic victory for us.

GGMU

True. He should let the players decide if they want to play or not. You perform well, you stay in the starting XI unless there's a need to rotate the team because of a mid-week game.

I think Rashford will score today. Dude was hustling throughout the last game for a goal and even hit the side bar.

Mkhitaryan gave 2 assists in the last game and we barely noticed.

hensben:
Exaxtly! Pogba play unserious football and you want me to call such player world class. He is inconsistent self.

If Pogba plays unserious football,, pray tell the kind of football Ronaldinho plays..

hensben:
Same reason canavaro won world best player but maldini didn't.

Let me guess, it was a fluke?

CapitalCee:


You are an I.diot, any body arguing with you has time. When did you start watching football. brainu okuku, when did Micheal Owen My Hero ever won the world best PLAYER? It mpataka.

See this smally wan battle me with dry flow

Khaytunechi:


If Pogba plays unserious football,, pray tell the kind of football Ronaldinho plays..

Ronaldinho's game was entertaining not unserious know the difference.

diggz:




I can see you have been using Fifa pro 11 to justify why pogba can be referred to as a world-class player however what you have failed to realise is that those in that list have been consistent in their performance for years,..... asides them appearing on that list.

A world-class player for me is someone who has consistently shown a skill or attribute that puts him or her in the highest class in the world.

Dopejemi....what can you tell us poorgba does in particular when he plays to be called a world-class player?

Poorgba for me is very talented but hasnt delivered consistently enough in the world of football to be regarded as a world class talent. If he will get there someday is another debate entirely.........if I believe he can be a world player tomorrow....Yes I do but, only if he chooses to do those simple things which always makes him play better and look like a class player.

Take a look at what some of your guys think of poorgba here, and I have started digging post yet......

he hasn't delivered consistently you say? are you saying this based on last season or what? you see why I asked you if Hazard is world class or not? I want to expose the hypocrisy in this your post

just answer my question please, is Hazard world class or not? please answer this question

afrodoc2:


Clear mistake? Sorry we don't read minds here. Say what you mean and mean what you say.
Apart from this one which other mistakes are hidden in all those epistles of his?

That is if we disregard the fact that the Michael Owen example had no relevance to the debate. The argument is not who is better than Henry or any other person, neither is it who is in the top 10 players of all time. The way graduates debate on this forum is quite alarming, it makes one agree with Dayo who questions certificates given to some people here.

Doctor....you don big pass this kind thing Na....shuuuu!! Yes he probably didn't present his argument properly but e no reach the kind koboko you carry come outside Na. Even people do qxn dayos education/logic most times here too....so will you also qxn dayos certificate?

I'll expecting Swansea to sit back and attack using counter... We just need to keep the pressure up on them just like the WestHam game until they yield and ruptured.

Hopefully this Pogba argument will be buried after this afternoon match.

Super-sub Martial, I'm putting my cash on you today. Either a goal, an assist or both. (;

dopeJemi:


he hasn't delivered consistently you say? are you saying this based on last season or what? you see why I asked you if Hazard is world class or not? I want to expose the hypocrisy in this your post

just answer my question please, is Hazard world class or not? please answer this question

Oga dopejemi.....tell me one skill or attribute of poorgba which makes him a world-class player I am waiting.

I am sure if I asked you to tell me the skill or attribute of each player on that Fifa pro 11 you will be able to tell me. So answer my qxn mbok and stop looking for an escape route.

We go enter hazard own afterwards...no hurry

diggz:



Oga dopejemi.....tell me one skill or attribute of poorgba which makes him a world-class player I am waiting.

I am sure if I asked you to tell me the skill or attribute of each player on that Fifa pro 11 you will be able to tell me. So answer my qxn mbok and stop looking for an escape route.

We go enter hazard own afterwards...no hurry

Who can make quality sublime passes in Chelsea like Pogba apart from Fab4?

diggz:



Oga dopejemi.....tell me one skill or attribute of poorgba which makes him a world-class player I am waiting.

I am sure if I asked you to tell me the skill or attribute of each player on that Fifa pro 11 you will be able to tell me. So answer my qxn mbok and stop looking for an escape route.

We go enter hazard own afterwards...no hurry

what is d skill or attribute of modric?
D same thing modric does is what pogba does

Leyqute:


True. He should let the players decide if they want to play or not. You perform well, you stay in the starting XI unless there's a need to rotate the team because of a mid-week game.

I think Rashford will score today. Dude was hustling throughout the last game for a goal and even hit the side bar.

Mkhitaryan gave 2 assists in the last game and we barely noticed.

I agree, each match day line up should be based on merit and I think that's what Mou intend to do. 3 pts is all that matters

lekkie073:
what is d skill or attribute of modric?
D same thing modric does is what pogba does

Good God!!!! bwuahahahaha!!!

We should enjoy Ur game now. Hopefully we will revisit this discourse later today.

Pogba is not world class because he's inconsistent. But.....but....ur MCM ghosted a whole season! FOH!!

Na here we dey this afternoon...

3 points are all I ask for.

diggz:


Doctor....you don big pass this kind thing Na....shuuuu!! Yes he probably didn't present his argument properly but e no reach the kind koboko you carry come outside Na. Even people do qxn dayos education/logic most times here too....so will you also qxn dayos certificate?

Everyone knows i am a man of peace, i wasn't trying to target anyone. Dayo's case is different, there are enough examples of Dayo showing his excellent grasp of logic and his intelligence to make such questions about his certificate laughable.

On the other hand there are others who invariably argue sans logic, flooding this thread with irrelevant and migraine inducing points. All i am saying is the general quality of debating on this forum is diminishing at an alarming rate.

Let's forget about it and watch the match, it was just an instant reaction to what i was reading.

adebayo201:
i dont know whether na psychology he studied... him questions na like post-jamb

I think say na only me dey notice am

Saved by the bar. Na wa

Thank God o

Lana1:
Pogba is not world class because he's inconsistent. But.....but....ur MCM ghosted a whole season! FOH!!

Ladies and gentlemen, we can now confirm that Iniesta was never world class because he ghosted for a whole season.


Thank you

diggz:



Skimpledawg...you are here shining teeth with the enemy abi?

You abandon Cobham work dey shine teeth abi?

Collect ur salary from here o!

I dey market the company na

They told us Hererra is better than Kante,we gave them Matic just to bench the fraud.



Elite mentality

diggz:



Oga dopejemi.....tell me one skill or attribute of poorgba which makes him a world-class player I am waiting.

I am sure if I asked you to tell me the skill or attribute of each player on that Fifa pro 11 you will be able to tell me. So answer my qxn mbok and stop looking for an escape route.

We go enter hazard own afterwards...no hurry

see question

ask fifa the skill and attribute they saw in pogba that made them include him in their pro 11

I don't need to wait for your answer anymore on Hazard because I know you will call him world class

now let's analyze

you have been saying inconsistency for a while now, how consistent was Hazard two seasons ago? you say pogba is inconsistent, I am guessing you are referring to last season which was his first full season in the EPL, he was able to produce more than 7 goals and score a goal in a European competition final, nominated for player of the competition, all these in an inconsistent first season for the club.. now tell me what your world class Hazard did in his inconsistent season

pogba has won more league titles with juventus than Hazard has with Chelsea, was part of the midfield that led juventus to a champions league final, was in fifa pro 11

so when you say inconsistency, are you referring to his seasons at juventus or his first season at United? cause I have never seen an inconsistent player make fifa pro 11 before in my years of watching football

if you are telling me he was inconsistent last season, no qualms, but if your inconsistency line is based on his career as whole, then you will have to analyze how inconsistent he was at juventus


if pogba is not world class, then Chelsea have no world class player

EOD, I wan watch match

Hope Bailly can see why you put such ball out for throw in

I'd have preferred Martial in this game with Rashidi replacing Mata on the wings. Mata is already in the AM position inadvertently rendering the wings useless.