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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:00pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
bigkesh:If not that I know you better, I could have responded to your lame jibe. You just not worth it. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:02pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
larride: Animal, was that the question I asked the guy?? Why are you giving me a reply to a question I didn't ask? Can you see how dumb you really are? Incase you still missed it, this is what I asked the guy? Chelseafan1: Tomorrow, I may decide to ask you why Pogba cost Man utd 89m, then you can answer me with this ur reply. But I asked the guy if he was signed to come score goals and assists or actually do the primary work of a midfielder but you being the fool that you are, you can't differentiate between both questions. Are you always this stupidd? 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 10:02pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: Local boy ti wo FIFA Awon International ti o le beat Dembele to PFA 7 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 10:03pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
larride: 2 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:05pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
diggz: 2015/2016 that he was among FIFA Pro XI All comp Played - 49 matches Goals - 10 Assist - 15 Chance created - 79 You want more? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:05pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Griffon: Tell me about it bro. That's why he had to go. We only needed one DM - Kunta Kante. You see how vulnerable we look when it's Kante-Fab right there? That's the difference. You mean like the FA cup final? or Against Manyoo at Old Trafford? or Against Spurs home and away? Like I said then, Matic had very little defensive responsibility last season. His 1.5 tackle per game average last season compared to his 3 tackles per game this season tells the whole story. Kante and the CentreBacks should have freed Matic up, in exactly the same way he is now freeing Pogba up...but Matic only knows what to do when the other side have the ball. Give him the ball and watch bag of beans lumber around in confusion. This is why he had to go. His skillset was no longer required. At least Fabregas still managed double Matic's assists and scored 5 league goals for us last season. And that's why Fabregas is still here. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 10:08pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Chelseafan1:most scummies are usually brain damaged. They hardly comprehend anything. They just go about yapping whatever comes to their scum filled brains. Just be answering the questions no one asks them just to look like they know something. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:09pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: I see your foolishness has finally caught up with you. When we broke that transfer record Pogba has not kicked a ball for us, we paid that much for him for his exploit in Juve not because of what he has played in a United shirt you this bastard son of a love peddler. Whether Pogba has replicated those performance in a Man Utd shirt is a different thing entirely. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 10:11pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
hinky:dont be so sure. they started like this last year. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 10:11pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
bigkesh:I see why you are always slow 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:16pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Nihilist: Two words. 93 points. 2nd highest in EPL history. If Kante is DM, Fabregas should feel free to be AM. Fabregas has already failed and we are barely out of preseason, now you are focusing on Bakayoko. Serbian bag of beans is already shaming the naysayers, don't try and contextualise it. Matic was doing exactly what he should do. Nothing like DM and AM in 2 man midfield. Bakayokos job is not to contribute as AM, and if it is, I will buy you Nike Airmax if he even equals Matics goals + assist contribution of last season. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:18pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
larride: The bolded is not necessary, it further shows how foolish you really are as u don't even know me or my mom to reach such conclusion. You are either ashamed you've been disgraced or acting stubborn to save face but then I'm just so allergic to senseless comments from retards like you. Why is it so hard for you to understand, this is a new season, Pogba has already played a season with Man utd, go back and follow the argument from the beginning. Kante was signed last season to solve our midfield problem which he did perfectly, I didn't ask you why Leicester sold him for 30m, What was Pogba signed for last season why can't you understand simple question for God's sake. How did you get thru skul, I want to believe you are learned. I'm actually tired of repeating myself. 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:19pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
EvilMetahuman: I'm fed up of this larride guy o. I don follow one goat argue this night. This one pass my power. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 10:19pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Nihilist: Actually I think what Pogba is doing now was what Kante did last season. Kante is just a workaholic that takes pleasure doing his job well. Matic sit deep and let Pogba do the undertaker tackling work. Hence, that's why Pogba is more aggressive with tackling that get the fouls. Same what Kante did last season. Matic prevents direct run of opponent straight up, he escorts or confuse them towards Pogba or other teammates. Core stability to the back 3 or 4 is what Matic provides, allowing the spare partnering midfielder to become free, run tackles, and go forward more. Conte & Mourinho sees that. Matic is gone now let's see how Conte impact stability on Bakayoko. BTW, to all Man U fans invading, remember last season you were comparing Herrera with Kante. Now Matic is removing him from starting line up. Now it's comparing Pogba to Kante. Where the Herrera? Una no dey taya? 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:20pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Ibime: Let me just get this clear, Bakayoko needs to equal 7 assists and 1 goal this season, and you will buy me a pair of Airmax sneakers? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:22pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
EvilMetahuman:They wont.... but its too early to conclude... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:24pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Thecassanova: Kante last season 3.6 tackles per game, 2.4 interceptions per game Matic last season 1.5 tackles per game, 1.4 interceptions per game. ==================================================== Matic this season 3 tackles per game, 1 interception Pogba this season, 1.5 tackles per game, 1 interception I think it's obvious on these numbers alone who is doing what at both teams. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:27pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Nihilist: Yes. It be like say you no know Bakayoko. You want draw blood from stone? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:28pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: If you can't understand or comprehend what you typed yourself then I think your case is even more critical than I imagined. Your question is 'What did we break the world record for'. I responded by telling you that we broke the record for his exploit for Juve and not because of what he did in a United shirt last season because he hasn't kicked a ball for us when we broke the record but we paid that much because of his exploit in Juve. Whether he has lived up to the amount or not is a different thing. If you want to argue Kante did better than Pogba in the EPL last season, it's another discourse entirely. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:29pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Ibime: Total contribution was 8 goals. As long as Bakayoko contributes 8 goals this season, my canvass is confirmed. I like those terms. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:32pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Nihilist: DM is about position on pitch, not about number of tackles. Kante was not DM last season, he was even more box-to-box than Matic. Also to add, midfield has 3 elements - defence, control and attack. With enough control, you don't need to defend at all sef. That's what Xavi and Busquets built their career on - 90% control and only 10% defence. Replacing Matic with Baka means we have lost any control we had in midfield. That's why some of us are hoping on David Luiz for midfield. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:35pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
larride: If I ask you these questions. 1. Why did Chelsea pay 30m for Kante last season? Is it different from, 2.Why did Man utd pay 89m for Pogba last season? Answer me pls, are they different questions or the same. Let's start from there. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:36pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Chelseafan1 What was Kante signed for? Why did you pay 30m for Kante? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:38pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: Chelsea paid 30m for Kante because of his exploit and impressive stat for Leicester. Why did Man Utd pay 89m for Pogba, now answer that question. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:43pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
larride: You failed to relate that question to the discussing I was having with the guy. I was like what did Man utd pay that amount for, like what did Pogba eventually did for the team last season, last season, last season o, not b4 he signed. Was it for him to dab, score goals, defend, or what exactly, this has nothing to do with Juventus or Leicester. Chelsea paid 30m for Kante to solve our midfield problem which he did well as a Chelsea player, I have no business with his Leicester exploits, what did Man utd pay 89m for? Maybe the screenshots will help you, you no take time understand post, u dey jump like puma. I asked the guy a question about Pogba in Man utd, he couldn't even ansa, na u carry big chest kon dey reply with a totally different reply.
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 10:48pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Nihilist: Tackling is not everything, it's not a basic requirement for a DM. “IF I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake.” That is the sentiment of Italy legend Paolo Maldini, the greatest defender in football history. He can't be so wrong to agree. That's why great DM like Gilberto da Silva & Xabi Alonso didn't need to tackle. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 10:51pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
hinky:we dey here |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:53pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Ibime: 4 eyes can see the exact same thing, but the two brains may not interpret them the same way. That's why I like to refer to stats when having these kind of discussions. Tackles and Interceptions are defensive actions. The stats say that Kante performed more defensive actions last season than Matic. The stats also say that Matic performed more offensive actions than Kante. What I saw from Matic, I choose to interpret as an opinion that he wasn't the DM for us. The stats appear to agree with me. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:53pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: I see where you are driving your bicycle too, how would you know Kante will solve your midfield problem when he hasn't kicked a ball for CFC, If Kante did not perform the way he did while at Leicester Chelsea won't have table a bid for him if they didn't see those things they want in him and luckily for you guys he delivered. That Pogba has delivered or not is a different thing entirely but when you bought Kante, you bought him for his abilities which he has showed in Leicester ditto Pogba. EOD 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 10:57pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Thecassanova: Choose your position and stick to it. Thecassanova: You said Pogba is doing the same work as Kante with an emphasis on tackling, and that Matic lets Pogba do all the tackling work.The stats say such an assertion is not factually correct. Then you're quoting Maldini - What does Maldini have to do with Pogba and Kante? He's not even a black french midfielder who plays in England... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 10:57pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
larride: If these screenshots do not answer your questions, then your case is not ordinary. I was having a clean convo with that guy b4 u jumped in with a totally irrelevant reply. We were clearly talking about what they did for their respective new teams not their previous teams. He was like Pogba wasn't really signed to score goals and I can remember some of pple cursing him and wondering why ur club paid 89m for him, so, I decided to ask sekratus what exactly he was signed to do since it's not really goals. Na u enter convo with his irrevancies.
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:59pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Nihilist: If you saw Essien and Makelele stats, you would assume Essien was the DM and Makelele was the B2B. For a player like Matic, tackle is the last option while for Kante it's his first option due to his size and speed. A player of Matics style seeing 3 defenders behind him and Kante never far from him, and with space under control will feel no need to tackle. |
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