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Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by ivolt: 8:16pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
dominique: There are many people/tribes who complain of marginalization in present day Nigeria, it has nothing to do with a curse. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by seunny4lif(m): 8:17pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
The story is too long ![]() ![]() ![]() Who can short it This super story pass Prison Break oooooo 2 Likes
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Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by itemj2k(m): 8:18pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
dominique:akoko edo has 47+ villages, uneme comprises of just 5 out of the 47+ |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by MOSICATED5(m): 8:19pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
I grew up knowing that uneme is a forbidden place but even my parents ne'er knew why as they were also told d same thing |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by byemx06(m): 8:20pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
KingOvoramwen1: enlighten |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by muyimodel: 8:22pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Thanks.. .thoughtful... |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by ademijuwonlo(f): 8:33pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
I tot Benin kingdom said the "Oba" title belongs to them and that the Yoruba recently adopted the title from them. But this narration made mention of Oba Ogiebo of Igbo -Orumila from present day Ijebu ode....it is sufficed to say that the obaship title has been with the Yorubas from time immemorial. 9 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by ismart: 8:33pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
rozayx5:it's actually Benin republic people not Benin of Edo extract. |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Sanchez01: 8:35pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
The narrative doesn't add up and it seems incomplete. 1. After the curse was revoked, did it in any way reunite the scattered Uneme houses even up to the ones in Awka? 2. Do other parts of Benin marry freely from the Unemes today? If no, then I doubt it is the event surrounding the narrative. Ideally, their acts of bravery and courage should be enough to make ladies turn their way and not claim they are cursed. 3. I understand every part and people claim marginalisation today, but even at that, are the Unemes considered for Royal roles, considering the fact that they are or royal lineage. |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Sanchez01: 8:37pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
ademijuwonlo:The narrative is messed up for sure but then again, Edo shares a close relationship with the Yorubas and a couple of Yoruba words, cum practices reflect in the Benin practice and even names. 2 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by AreaFada2: 8:45pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
ademijuwonlo: In theory if the Benins (not Binis as wrongly written widely, and corrected by the palace & BTC often) were to describe a foreign king, what title would they use? Oba or ogie. The King of Portugal was described as Oba Ebo (King of white people) back in the 14th century already. I see no controversy there. Besides Oba means "shining" to describe the elegance & magnificence of early ogisos also then called Oba-Godo. By 1480 AD, King John II of Portugal (called Oba Ebo in Benin) was not called Oba John II by his Portuguese subjects in Portugal. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Is there any oral evidence of use of the word Oba in Yoruba language dating back to around 1800 to over 2000 years ago? Let us know if there is. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by EgusiShankly: 8:46pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
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Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Eziokwu1: 8:46pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
AreaFada2: What happened to the proto Edo word for king, i.e Ogie and co? An Edo told me in confidence that King is actually Ogie in Edo lingua. 8 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Nobody: 8:49pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
scholes0: It is possible Igbo Orunmila is in Ijebu Land but not the present area called Ijebu Ode. An old historian of Ijebu Ode origin told me Ondo founder (Osemawe) & Ago Iwoye founder are twins. One of their parents was from Benin. He called the founder of Ago Iwoye Ebumawe (I am not sure if I got the name right). Ago iwoye is in Ijebu Land 1 Like |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by rhektor(m): 8:50pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
scholes0: I wonder when I saw this but let the op do justice to it |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by nady94: 8:51pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
dominique:I think people from igbanke; ekpon (not ekponma) are also kind of marginalized too |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Nobody: 8:54pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
AreaFada2: Yes sir, there are. Below is the list of folks who existed before Oduduwa and way before Oranmiyan started 'Oba' in Benin. Obarese, Obalale, Obalesun, Obanurin, Obalurin, Obalepon, Obalejugbe, Obaoro, Obalato and a whole lot of Obas who were kings before Oduduwa whose lineages exist till today and are still kings in their domains but chiefs under Ooni. In the traditional sense, only a subordinate uses Oba while the paramount ruler derives his appelation from the name of the geographical space as the owner. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Rekit: 9:00pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
This is a very incisive post. I must commend OP for this post. I have a lot of friends from uneme clan. The Unemes are not located in only Akoko - Edo, they can also be found in Etsako East LGA (South Uneme, the Anegbette people.). Actually, they are very good people. One thing the curse brought to them is unity and oneness as they remain the most United clan in Edo State. They are educated in large number and are exceptional in their chosen professions. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by HNO3Acid(m): 9:02pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
AreaFada2: All Yorubas Obas have always been Obas. Even the etymology (composition) of the very word is rooted in Yoruba - Ba to be in control over everything. 'O' being the pronoun suffix. Ever heard of Obatala or Obalufon? Arguing the Yoruba root of Oba is almost akin to arguing the Yoruba root of the word "Omo" 6 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by BushDoctor123: 9:06pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
scholes0:Ekpedo should learn to live peacefully with their neighbours and stop this land grabbing attitude.They are landlocked between the Bekumas on the west and Ekpe on the east with Ogori in kogi state on the North. The Ekpedo's are always at war with these communities except Ogori which they couldn't defeat in warfare even though they exterminated and conquered Oke Ola village. |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by aigjoey(m): 9:08pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
I love the documentary. Pls can you send me the video on whatsap. Thanks.. scholes0: 2 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by aigjoey(m): 9:10pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
You do not expect us to be calm when we are threatened. The unemhe are very peaceful people. Ogori is too small for u to defeat. Take note of that BushDoctor123: 1 Like |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by AreaFada2: 9:11pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Eziokwu1: I was still writing when you replied. In official use, the proto word had reduced in importance by the 12th century. Though still used. For example, by around 12th century, during the interregnum, a local chieftain, Evian & his heir had declared that "Ogie era mien vb'Edo, ai mien Oba". Meaning, only a chief now obtains in Benin, no king. This was in opposing senior Benin Traditional chiefs' mission to seek Ekaladerhan's/Izoduwa's return from Ife. Of course, the great grandson of Oba Eweka I who was Oba Ewedo later granted the descendant of the opposing local chieftain/usurper the chieftaincy title "Ogiamien". Ogiamiens's palace today is today a Federal Government national monument, said to be the longest inhabited palace/home in West Africa till today. By 12th century some ducal titles like Ogiegor (who was Oranmiyan's father-in-law) at Egor village near Benin were pretty established. At least over a century before the Uneme scenario here. 2 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by scholes0(m): 9:14pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
BushDoctor123: The Okpameris and the Unemes should learn to co-exist together abeg. Besides, in the last conflict, The Bekumas were the aggressors. 1 Like |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by ORIENTATION101: 9:18pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
AreaFada2:oba is Yoruba word O-he BA-reigns This full meaning of oba in Yoruba = he reigns Oba is a general word for monarchs in yorubaland while the throne title names differs from each other because of the geographical boundaries of their domain 4 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by paradigmshift(m): 9:20pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
kn23h: u mean the impotent ooni. lmao 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by kingsleybrave(m): 9:23pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
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Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by AreaFada2: 9:25pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
ObalufonIII:What period in history are we talking of? How many centuries before? Benin & Yoruba are Niger-Congo/Kwa languages. Couldn't they have developed independently, perhaps with some similarity or closeness in original root word now lost? I think the problem with finding the truth is "my mannliness is bigger than yours" tribal positions people take. If that is the case, why is virtually every prominent Yoruba King now using the title "Oba" from Alafin to Ooni? In the Conference of Western Region Kings held in Benin in the 1940s, only Oba of Benin used the title Oba, while others were Awujale, Ooni, Alafin, etc. Why are they all now officially using Oba title if it is meant to be lower traditionally? ![]() ![]() 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by JoeEbiliekwe24: 9:25pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Rekit: Did you read the passage the curse was meant to achieve the opposite of what you just described. lol |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Nobody: 9:29pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
babaolofin: I also noticed that in the ancient yoruba history Oba of Benin was referred to as Oba Ado which means ruler of Edo people. There exist some unknown history that might have been erased by tribal wars. Obanta may not be the first ruler in Ijebu Land 2 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by kn23h(m): 9:32pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
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Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by gdonj1(m): 9:37pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
aigjoey:one love brother |
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