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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by InvertedHammer: 7:39pm On Aug 23, 2017
I am in total support of feminists.

And every guy should be in support of feminism.

The family brings 2 pages of marriage materials, she will be responsible for the content of one page while
the man takes care of the others.

On a date, as I chop dey pay; she go chop dey pay her own.

She gets her dildos, the man uses his hands...until both parties agree to engage in horizontal mumbo jumbo.

Whoever blinks first, loses.

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by elderhimself(m): 7:39pm On Aug 23, 2017
Its a waste of time and resources+energy to those that practice or believe in it...........annd
Its a waste of good sleeping, gossip, party , or " doing nothing" time to those that worry about it.

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by Brownhypo: 7:40pm On Aug 23, 2017
JONNYSPUTE:
Not relevant. Am yet to understand what exactly our women want. Equality or superiority? U want equality but u can't help ur husband pay house rent,school fees,buy foodstuff Nd do all other things that men do but u want him to help u wash the dishes,clean the house Nd bath babies. Pls women define exactly what u want.
I love this! It's obvious they don't even know what they want.

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by XKZ(m): 7:40pm On Aug 23, 2017
I think we should elevate gender equality beyond what goes on in the family. If two people have chosen a way to run their marriage and it works for them, I don't see why it should be anyone else's business.

The questions I think we should be asking is how many women hold political appointments, what's the probability of voters choosing female aspirants, how many top Nigerian companies have female CEOs, what's the male to female ratio on company boards, are inheritance customs fair to women, can women aspire to religious, customary and spiritual leadership, are there double standards in the way society treats women versus men, do men and women generally have equal standing before society etc...

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by OrdercityWeb: 7:40pm On Aug 23, 2017
Frankenstein:
Your argument is skewed.
Meaning?
Elucidate please.

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by OrdercityWeb: 7:41pm On Aug 23, 2017
HERSLEY:
smh undecided hell nah. I beg to disagree
You didnt answer the question?

You only signified you are one.

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by XKZ(m): 7:42pm On Aug 23, 2017
Yonce:



Did I accept that? grin


To me, feminism is much more complicated in marriage. In marriage, there can never be two equals, there has to be a leader.
Evolution and cultural influence has made a man assume that role naturally and willed women to take the back seat. If both parties reach a conclusion on how to run their homes and decides on who does which chores and how collective money is spent, I think society(me and you) owes it to them to stay outta their buisness and leave them to manage their own life.

In other words, it is not compulsory the woman performs all the chores. . The couple can decide what they want.

smiley

I agree with you

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by Nobody: 7:42pm On Aug 23, 2017
XKZ:
I think we should elevate gender equality beyond what goes on in the family. If two people have chosen a way to run their marriage and it works for them, I don't see why it should be anyone else's business.

The questions I think we should be asking is how many women hold political appointments, what's the probability of voters choosing a female aspirants, how many top Nigerian companies have female CEOS, what's the male to female ratio on company boards, are inheritance customs fair to women, can women aspire to religious, customary and spiritual leadership, are there double standards in the way society treats women versus men, do men and women general have equal standing before society etc...

My fear is this debate will destroy many marriages in our generation..its already upon this generation...it's encroaching at an alarming rate...

Back to watch mode

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by purpledandelion: 7:43pm On Aug 23, 2017
I thought feminism is the new black until Mr President said "my wife belongs to the other room" grin

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by pocohantas(f): 7:44pm On Aug 23, 2017
YelloweWest:

Love ur humor always.

Just Watch as little broke dick heads will hijack this thread.
As if it's women that made them broke.
To me a true feminist is a woman who works hard enough to buy herself a trophy husband/ boy toy.
Our boys are now professional gigolos. They are ready to lick a woman's anus of she can pay.
Nigerian men are more of gold diggers than women!
The only thing is most of our rich women respect themselves unlike rich men in Nigeria who can sleep with almost anything under skirt.

LOL...thanks.
I know this topic gets them very emotional and worked up. So, I am always right on time to watch them wail...

All those ones marrying old women for green card, no be gold digging? Naija rich woman won't tolerate their unnecessary ego and still allow them gold dig. Our babes dey drop their ego to dig their own, na why e dey work for them, home and abroad grin.

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by IamEmem(m): 7:45pm On Aug 23, 2017
Yes it relevant. But there should be a balance between feminism, culture and custom. Women should be empowered but not at the expense of their primary duties as wife and mothers.
Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by Yonce(f): 7:45pm On Aug 23, 2017
talk2hb1:

If you people actually appreciate who you are, you will never believe the Feminism stuffs. I have sisters and I wont want them languishing in the background of the society. Gender disparity is about responsibilities and roles, which we expected everyone to embrace his/her own role, but the moment someone somewhere is not happy about who they are naturally are, the rest is Wahala!


These roles and responsibilities you talk about, who penned them down? Where is it written that the girl child has a sterotypical role she must fit into. Or even the boy child?

That it's not okay to want something outside the norm for herself because there's a role she must strive to fit into?

Does the boy child have more brain cells than the girl child? Did evolution made his IQ significantly higher than hers?

You have sisters you say, did your parents push them to be what they wanted to be, earn money legitimately, become independent the way they pushed you to? Or did they tell them to depend on men even before they have a ring on their fingers? Or find husbands to take care of them?

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by Gerrard59(m): 7:46pm On Aug 23, 2017
humilitypays:
No. Ask me why

Feminism is all about gender equality; equality in everything not in some things.

But in Nigeria, Nigerian ladies become feminist when they want it to favor them, but when they know that it won't favor them, they forget feminism. How?

For instance, in marriages, Nigerian men pay their fiance's dowries....during dating, Nigerian women expect Nigerian men to take at least 90% financial responsibility of the relationship.

Every Nigerian lady, even the one from rich family and those working and earning big income still innately expect their man to take care of all their financial needs. Nigerian lady can hardly give her man money that's useful or buy him tangible gift, but she expects her boyfriend or fiance' or hubby to buy her a car, a house, take care of her parents, siblings, school expenditures, etc.

But if she has money she don't want to spend on her man and if she ever spends at all, she complains and disregards the man.

Imagine in Nigeria, parents were encouraged to send their girl child's to school for a better tomorrow and better Nigeria and over the last 2 decades we have seen a boom in Nigerian women professionals doing so well in their various career fields, trade, business and handwork but then, this has not had any meaningful impact on Nigeria's economy welfare and family happiness.

A Nigerian lady working and earning big money will remain single waiting for a richer guy to spend more money on her while she gets old and refuses to use her money raise any guy....we have lots of financially buoyant single ladies in Nigeria single because they want to marry Otedola, Dangote, Okorocha, Donald Duke....but imagine if the good jobs Nigerian ladies got via feminism and girl-child education campaign in Nigeria were in the hands of Nigerian guys, believe me, u will never find any single Nigerian lady cos Nigerian guys would have married them all even if they are poor and wretched.

And the guys will also help uplift these ladies families too....but Nigerian ladies only want feminism when it favors them, so how is feminism helpful to Nigeria

Feminism has brought delayed marriage in Nigeria, marital crises, chaos and relationship troubles and confusion....Nigeria is not ripe enough for feminism.‎


Psychological studies have shown that women marry up (economic and age wise). So this is not surprising. With or without feminism, women will always marry up. No female willingly marries a man she is richer than (the stats are low), neither will a man marry a woman who earns more than him (stats are also low).

Generally, individuals will want to favour themselves even at the detriment of others, this is natural. However, feminism has done quite well for Nigerian women, by giving them rights (also knowing the right), empowering women, improving education standards (we cannot because of prehistoric cultures allow 50% of the population not to be educated properly) etc.

The coloured post: Any study to prove your claim that women's economic empowerment has not contributed to the Nigerian economy?

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by liferbaby(f): 7:46pm On Aug 23, 2017
No

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by pocohantas(f): 7:47pm On Aug 23, 2017
wristbangle:


A typical attitude of a concentrated stench feminist. You can't even decode simple sarcasm! Shio!

Anyway I have edited my last comment for your perusal wink

Shattap jare. What else will you do if not to call me feminist. Swerve and stop mentioning me about... grin grin

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by OrdercityWeb: 7:48pm On Aug 23, 2017
Yonce:




Have you carried out a well detailed research to prove your thesis. Are you in every marriage thst you fully understand who foots the bill?
Nice!!
Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by OrdercityWeb: 7:49pm On Aug 23, 2017
YelloweWest:
Misogynist thread. Watch how little dick two minutes men will flood this thread.
Did you really have to say this?

You are guilty of exactly what you're accusing this men of.
I'll like to hear your contribution. Thanks

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by Yonce(f): 7:50pm On Aug 23, 2017
XKZ:
I think we should elevate gender equality beyond what goes on in the family. If two people have chosen a way to run their marriage and it works for them, I don't see why it should be anyone else's business.

The questions I think we should be asking is how many women hold political appointments, what's the probability of voters choosing a female aspirants, how many top Nigerian companies have female CEOS, what's the male to female ratio on company boards, are inheritance customs fair to women, can women aspire to religious, customary and spiritual leadership, are there double standards in the way society treats women versus men, do men and women general have equal standing before society etc...


Exactly. That should be our main focus when it comes to feminism.

The average African man is very misogynistic. . . . .the question today should be how do we change their 12th century views and how do we get our future/current mothers to push independence in their daughters just as much as they do with their sons. Make their daughters hungry for success in all fields and learn how not to take the backseat. undecided

That is the cause we should be championing.

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by OrdercityWeb: 7:51pm On Aug 23, 2017
Yonce:



And this figure is based on?

Look, there's nothing wrong with a man running the home. . . .a team has to have a leader. But we can't discredit the effort our mothers put into marriage too, raising us from day 1 till now, working their àsses off to still support their husbands in the monetary aspect and basically being there to take all our complains.

That she isn't the bread winner doesn't mean she isn't involved in show running. Let me ask you, was your father solely responsible for giving you money for everything you needed growing up?
This is awesome!
I wish i could retweet this like on Twitter.
Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by Obalende: 7:53pm On Aug 23, 2017
I am for feminism because the girl would work and make her own money and take care of herself with it.... I too will work make mine and take care of myself with it.... if I want to hv children I could think of adoption or hv a baby with her but before the baby we would go to court to swear joint custody agreement/ affidavit in case of any eventuality.
Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by OrdercityWeb: 7:53pm On Aug 23, 2017
YelloweWest:

Love ur humor always.

Just Watch as little broke dick heads will hijack this thread.
As if it's women that made them broke.
To me a true feminist is a woman who works hard enough to buy herself a trophy husband/ boy toy.
Our boys are now professional gigolos. They are ready to lick a woman's anus of she can pay.
Nigerian men are more of gold diggers than women!
The only thing is most of our rich women respect themselves unlike rich men in Nigeria who can sleep with almost anything under skirt.
Is this all feminism is about?
What wave do you suscribe to?

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by pocohantas(f): 7:56pm On Aug 23, 2017
OrdercityWeb:

Yes!
It was you i was trying to mention on the ftc.
You do know there are different waves of feminism right?
And there's been different aims and goals of feminism by varying groups in recent years.

The original aim itself is what every sane person should support. Even if some set of people are deviating from the set aim, sane people should still stick to supporting the original aim.

But our Nigerian men wanna throw away the baby with the bath water. What are they scared of?

They claim the misguided feminist wanna eat their cake and have it always mentioning materialism. Even our men want to eat their cake and have it. You can't want your wife to work and earn like you, then slave at the home front without your supporting, all in the name of submission. It won't work.

I'm very Pro-family and anyone that knows me outside here knows that. The original aim of feminism is necessary, while maintaining reasonable family and societal values.

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by OrdercityWeb: 7:56pm On Aug 23, 2017
Nma27:
Many peeps don't even know what feminism is about.
True!!
Mostly "feminists" themselves. I think its a bandwagon thing for a lot of ladies.
When i see ladies like pocahontas, missraine69, and some others. I'm like yes! This is it!

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by ivolt: 7:56pm On Aug 23, 2017
Yes, it is relevant.
Before anyone quote me please check the meaning of "feminism"
and look at your environment.
Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by Odunharry(m): 7:57pm On Aug 23, 2017
This will be interesting.. Many of them who call themselves feminist are just hypocrites. Preaching what they can't do.


It's relevant today though. Feminism in it real sense has done alot of good, from empowerment, self awareness, rights etc etc.

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by OrdercityWeb: 7:57pm On Aug 23, 2017
Yonce:



Did I accept that? grin


To me, feminism is much more complicated in marriage. In marriage, there can never be two equals, there has to be a leader.
Evolution and cultural influence has made a man assume that role naturally and willed women to take the back seat. If both parties reach a conclusion on how to run their homes and decides on who does which chores and how collective money is spent, I think society(me and you) owes it to them to stay outta their buisness and leave them to manage their own life.

In other words, it is not compulsory the woman performs all the chores. . The couple can decide what they want.
Oh my!
This is exactly the real deal. All ye fake femisnists out there tainting the name. Read this!
You're very balanced!
Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by Gerrard59(m): 7:58pm On Aug 23, 2017
XKZ:
I think we should elevate gender equality beyond what goes on in the family. If two people have chosen a way to run their marriage and it works for them, I don't see why it should be anyone else's business.

The questions I think we should be asking is how many women hold political appointments, what's the probability of voters choosing a female aspirants, how many top Nigerian companies have female CEOS, what's the male to female ratio on company boards, are inheritance customs fair to women, can women aspire to religious, customary and spiritual leadership, are there double standards in the way society treats women versus men, do men and women general have equal standing before society etc...

....and this is the problem I have with today's feminism. People should be appointed to positions not because of the gender but what they contribute and their worth. It is mediocrity to force companies to employ females because of gender parity even when they are not as qualified as the other gender or the pool is small to pick from. Ditto with political positions, a woman who wants to run for an office should do so, and not expect voters' approval because "I'm a woman". Earn the voters' support and not affirmative action.

During the Google and James Damore debacle, it was discovered that there are less women in tech and as such, tech firms should employ more females. But this wrong as it breeds mediocrity, whereby firms have to keep slots for females because of gender parity and not meritocracy. There are few females opting for Computer Science degrees juxtaposed to the male category (culture contributes to an extent), how then can companies employ enough coders, programmers (not Gender Studies' graduates) to be same as with males?

By the way, we've many females preachers, inheritance is culture specific and is changing (The Supreme Court did something on that esp for the Igbos circa '03)

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by Obalende: 7:59pm On Aug 23, 2017
Obalende:
I am for feminism because the girl would work and make her own money and take care of herself with it.... I too will work make mine and take care of myself with it.... if I want to hv children I could think of adoption or hv a baby with her but before the baby we would go to court to swear joint custody agreement/ affidavit in case of any eventuality.

It's good for guys as it will reduce our stress. Also as women will start seeing marriage as evil sleeping around will increase increasing male mating options....
Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by OrdercityWeb: 8:00pm On Aug 23, 2017
IamEmem:
Yes it relevant. But there should be a balance between feminism, culture and custom. Women should be empowered but not at the expense of their primary duties as wife and mothers.
Aren't you contradicting yourself?

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by pressplay411(m): 8:01pm On Aug 23, 2017
Feminists don't know what they want.
Even between them they disagree on what it means.
Mk we leave matter.
Imagine a radio presenter saying a man complemented her that she drives like a man and she felt insulted. Even when she knew his intention was that she drives without fear.
At the end of the day it's all about Single Successful ladies thinking they can do without men and in fact can do better with male organs.
I wonder if they also think we should just abolish gender all together and call everyone Man. I suspect they would prefer we call everyone Woman.
Ladies, E dey una body. I don vent finish.

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by jy2kbeyond(m): 8:02pm On Aug 23, 2017
HERSLEY:
I am a proud one kiss
Madam, how do you intend to be a feminist?
Hope it's not in the house of a man that paid your bride price?

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Re: Is Feminism Relevant In Nigeria Today? by OrdercityWeb: 8:06pm On Aug 23, 2017
pocohantas:


The original aim itself is what every sane person should support. Even if some set of people are deviating from the set aim, sane people should still stick to supporting the original aim.

But our Nigerian men wanna throw away the baby with the bath water. What are they scared of?

They claim the misguided feminist wanna eat their cake and have it. Even our men want to eat their cake and have it.

You can't want your wife to work and earn like you, then slave at the home front without your supporting, all in the name of submission. It won't work.

I'm very Pro-family and anyone that knows me outside here knows that. The original aim of feminism is necessary, while maintaining reasonable family and societal values.
Good!
You're balanced. You're not one of those ladies who just joined it as a bandwagon because its a trend now.
These ones no nada about it, they are the ones misinterpreting it. Most of these folks practice misandry and think its feminism.
I call them "Facebook femisnists ".
..
Real femisnists don't necessarily make noise, you see feminism in their words and actions. Selah

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