cstr1000:

[b]Maybe not real madrid. Atleast they pay fair value for money, but barcelona is just disgusting.
They employ the likes of pique, messi, alves to destabilize players and get them on the cheap. And if the players happen to be south american then you are in trouble because they are going to get harassed by the barcelona machine who believe they have a right to all the decent latin american players with their mes que un club nonsense.
And how has the EPL gotten more than she gave? Those world class players real madrid and barcelona poach from england were not bought by English clubs as world class players. They were groomed to become what they are by their english clubs.
Even fabregas was groomed as a professional by wenger.
How would you feel if manchester United happen to destabilize and snap up the likes of Asensio and Isco who happen to just become world class thanks to real madrid. It will sting as hell and hand the initiative to England by robbing Spain of the best future talents.
That is exactly what spain has been doing to England over the years. That is why England cannot compete with spain for now unless something changes.
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Sanchez01:

And the Spanish players that are being moved in their numbers to the BPL every transfer window?

Robinho, Deco, Eto'o, Torres, Falcao, Costa, Morata, Toure Yaya, Jesus Navas, Sanchez, Ozil, Negredo, Borjan, etc.

Perhaps you should enlighten yourself with this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/11993030/How-the-Premier-League-turned-Spanish.html

Xlpacks:
solid reason y Chelsea will faustrate his move to ATM

P0intBlank:


Not sure you followed them weekly. Looks like you only watched El Clasicos. 2011/2012 was one of best seasons I have seen Real Madrid play - a season in which they broke a number of records including 100 points in a single season, a record 121 goals scored and goal difference of +89, and a record 16 away wins and 32 overall wins.

Edopesin:


watch how the teams in their group will use their mumu defence to play *tinko tinko*

cstr1000:

And how many of those players were snatched at their prime.?
Can you compare any of them to Modric, suarez, Ronaldo or Xabi alonso?

ekensi01:
We are not sacred of madrid, ask Chelsea about.

Sanchez01:

And the Spanish players that are being moved in their numbers to the BPL every transfer window?

Robinho, Deco, Eto'o, Torres, Falcao, Costa, Morata, Toure Yaya, Jesus Navas, Sanchez, Ozil, Negredo, Borjan, etc.

Perhaps you should enlighten yourself with this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/11993030/How-the-Premier-League-turned-Spanish.html

kayus4live:


We will surely release coutinho for you so far you will also release messi for us too, let's exchange

Sanchez01:

Yes! I have always mentioned that Guardiola is nothing but an average coach who was fortunate enough to have coached one of the greatest teams ever.

Frank Rijkaard laid the blueprint for Guardiola's success. The team already had Giuly, Eto'o, Abidal, Puyol, a benched Xavi and Iniesta when the likes of Deco and Yaya You're held sway. The team had Gianluca Zambrotta, Lilian Thuram, Milito, Ronaldinho and many others.

The 2007-08 remains the entrance to the emergence of Barcelona's greatness in modern day football and it was neither orchestrated nor crafted by Guardiola.

Is it surprising that the same Guardiola has not had any European success after leaving Barcelona? As a matter of fact, Heynckes' Bayern team boasted a formidable style of play than Guardiola's tiki taka's.

Guardiola remains an average coach with tons of luck on his side.

coachy777:

How I wish Coutihno was reading this.

cstr1000:

And how many of those players were snatched at their prime.?
Can you compare any of them to Modric, suarez, Ronaldo or Xabi alonso?

Sanchez01:

How old was Robinho when he moved to England? How old were these people when they moved?

dabossman:


Sorry, not an Arsenal fan. *spits in the gutter*. And I didn't say Madrid, I said you personally. On that night when you won your quarter final match and progressed to the semis under Mourinho after 6 years of Round of 16 heartbreak. Did you not celebrate?

It is also common knowledge that Mourinho is not exactly a beloved Madrid manager. His was a love-hate relationship with the client club and many of its fans.

Ah, now I see your angst. You are a Madrid fan. Madrid fans will always be bitter towards Mourinho and his Bernabau reign, so no point having this discussion.

uridiwan:
shey that one na trek?

FemiEddy:

If u like, combine all England teams together, am still not Una mate, u talking to a real Madrid fan for God sake, tho I respect Manchester United the most in England but just dey ur lane
Hala Madrid

Sanchez01:

What unscrupulous means are you talking about? Can you name just one Madrid deal in the EPL that is indeed unscrupulous

Can you name 20 premiership players in Spain while you also name 20 Spanish players in the EPL?

You guys are honestly pathetic. Madrid has a philosophy; sign the best players in the world without considering the amount expended in doing so. We have brought in players from Brazil, Italy, Germany and France. How then is England different?

How many of these so called English players were groomed in the UK? Where was Suarez bought from? How about Ronaldo and Modric? Perhaps you never knew that Fabregas started from Barcelona.

If you look at it critically, you wouldn't need a prophet to tell you that the English League has taken more than it has given.

VargasVee:



Not now bro. Look at your academy, it's in bloody shambles.

Back then your graduates were one of the best always, now all there is, is an aging squad.

EasyWork001:



Bro, Torres in the first 2 years at Liverpool was nasty sha

EasyWork001:



If you're a Chelsea, arsenal, man city, Liverpool or tottenham fan, your team has not achieved up to half of what man utd have in the UCL.

Facts.

Princefrankie1:


Lol. Naysayers again. Guardiola average? Lol. There is nothing I will not read on this forum o.

Rijkaard 2007 first 11 consisted of:

VALDES

MARQUEZ PUYOL OLEGUER VAN BRONCKHORST

EDMILSON DECO VAN BOMMEL

GUILY ETO'O RONALDINHO.

Rijkaard ended the 2007 season trophyless. Leaving Barcelona with too many old guards. Just look up the names in that squad.

Pep Guardiola in 2006, won promotion for Barca B in his debut season as their coach playing wonderful, scintillating, possession based football which was later nicknamed tiki taka.

That made the Barcelona board to appoint him even though he was unproven at that point at the big stage. They saw the way the B team played. They wanted him to deploy same tactics to the senior team.


On his first day, Guardiola said: “These three (Ronaldinho, Deco and Samuel
Eto’o) are not in my mind for the future, we will be going forward without
them.

Ronaldinho, Deco, Edmilson, Gio dos Santos, Ezquerro, Crosas, Oleguer and Zambrotta were all shipped out. That is almost all of Rijkaard's first 11. Except just goalkeeper Valdes and Puyol.


Pep Guardiola built the greatest Barcelona team with which he won all the trophies contested for from the scratch. They played the kind of football never seen before in the history of the round leather game.

That is why he is regarded as a GENIUS by people who know his history.

How then can you say such a man is OVERRATED??

How can you say he won because RIJKAARD laid the blueprint? How?? What blueprint??

Think again bro.

Odunharry:
5 English team this season. Hoping three makes it to the Quarter finals and two atleast semi.
I see an English team going to the Finals this season.
Let's watch and see. Anything can happen.

Up United.
Up Chelsea.
Up City.
Up Liverpool.
Up Spurs.

otabuko:
Lol. Can you?

Phi001:

Liverpool have achieved way more than Manchester United in the UCL...

ekensi01:
That was your last champion league.

mukina2:
Group A: Benfica, Manchester United, Basel, CSKA Moscow

Group B: Bayern Munich, Paris Saint-Germain, Anderlecht, Celtic

Group C: Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag

Group D: Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting

Group E: Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor

Group F: Shakhtar Donetsk, Manchester City, Napoli, Feyenoord

Group G: Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig

Group H: Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL

Sanchez01:

Goal records, man! C'mon! If you know the philosophy of Real Madrid, then you wouldn't allow yourself to be drawn into the point and goal frenzy. WAS THERE EUROPEAN SUCCESS WITH THE OVER 500 WEEKLY GOALS?

Princefrankie1:


Lol. Naysayers again. Guardiola average? Lol. There is nothing I will not read on this forum o.

Rijkaard 2007 first 11 consisted of:

VALDES

MARQUEZ PUYOL OLEGUER VAN BRONCKHORST

EDMILSON DECO VAN BOMMEL

GUILY ETO'O RONALDINHO.

Rijkaard ended the 2007 season trophyless. Leaving Barcelona with too many old guards. Just look up the names in that squad.

Pep Guardiola in 2006, won promotion for Barca B in his debut season as their coach playing wonderful, scintillating, possession based football which was later nicknamed tiki taka.

That made the Barcelona board to appoint him even though he was unproven at that point at the big stage. They saw the way the B team played. They wanted him to deploy same tactics to the senior team.


On his first day, Guardiola said: “These three (Ronaldinho, Deco and Samuel
Eto’o) are not in my mind for the future, we will be going forward without
them.

Ronaldinho, Deco, Edmilson, Gio dos Santos, Ezquerro, Crosas, Oleguer and Zambrotta were all shipped out. That is almost all of Rijkaard's first 11. Except just goalkeeper Valdes and Puyol.


Pep Guardiola built the greatest Barcelona team with which he won all the trophies contested for from the scratch. They played the kind of football never seen before in the history of the round leather game.

That is why he is regarded as a GENIUS by people who know his history.

How then can you say such a man is OVERRATED??

How can you say he won because RIJKAARD laid the blueprint? How?? What blueprint??

Think again bro.

Princefrankie1:


Lol. Naysayers again. Guardiola average? Lol. There is nothing I will not read on this forum o.

Rijkaard 2007 first 11 consisted of:

VALDES

MARQUEZ PUYOL OLEGUER VAN BRONCKHORST

EDMILSON DECO VAN BOMMEL

GUILY ETO'O RONALDINHO.

Rijkaard ended the 2007 season trophyless. Leaving Barcelona with too many old guards. Just look up the names in that squad.

Pep Guardiola in 2006, won promotion for Barca B in his debut season as their coach playing wonderful, scintillating, possession based football which was later nicknamed tiki taka.

That made the Barcelona board to appoint him even though he was unproven at that point at the big stage. They saw the way the B team played. They wanted him to deploy same tactics to the senior team.


On his first day, Guardiola said: “These three (Ronaldinho, Deco and Samuel
Eto’o) are not in my mind for the future, we will be going forward without
them.

Ronaldinho, Deco, Edmilson, Gio dos Santos, Ezquerro, Crosas, Oleguer and Zambrotta were all shipped out. That is almost all of Rijkaard's first 11. Except just goalkeeper Valdes and Puyol.


Pep Guardiola built the greatest Barcelona team with which he won all the trophies contested for from the scratch. They played the kind of football never seen before in the history of the round leather game.

That is why he is regarded as a GENIUS by people who know his history.

How then can you say such a man is OVERRATED??

How can you say he won because RIJKAARD laid the blueprint? How?? What blueprint??

Think again bro.