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Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by Azam101: 10:17pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
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Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by BluntBoy(m): 10:37pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
excelglory: You people have a problem. Is there no middle ground between rich and poor? Who said Jesus was poor or beggarly? Jesus was not rich nor poor. John the Baptist was neither rich nor poor yet he didn't starve. All the prophets of old were neither rich nor poor yet they never lacked. Paul said he has learnt contentment. He begged Timothy never to be like those who chase after wealth. He preached contentment. Keep falsehood and lies far from me; give me neither poverty nor riches, but give me only my daily bread - Proverbs 30:8 2 Likes |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by BluntBoy(m): 10:46pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
Okies27: Laziness is the major problem of you lots. There is nothing like mind your business in the body of Christ. No wonder you have all been reduced to sitting ducks in the flock. You neither counter decisions or want to know how tithes and offerings are spent. Your responsibilities as a Christian is not to be a listener every Sunday. You must learn to demand accountability and transparency. Now, to the topic, if you would take your time to read your bible, you would see the structure put in place for the Church by the Holy Spirit. The idea of a one man church is unbiblical and church where a human being is at the centre is not a church. Any church were certain people take the best seats and places for themselves and reduce the flocks to mere watchers and listeners is not a Church. We have been told to expect the likes of Oyedepo who would make merchandise of the gospel. We have also been told that many will be led astray because these men would have sweet tongues, so I am not surprised that their followers are growing daily. Broad is the way that leads to destruction. There is a difference between winning souls and winning a crowd. 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by 9inches(m): 11:23pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
ibtz: Yes, their own version. All muslims don't interpret the quran the same way. True or false? |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by 9inches(m): 11:26pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
ibtz: Tell me one difference between what these four groups you mentioned do that is different from what the founder of their religion did in his time. Just one difference! 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by Nobody: 11:40pm On Aug 25, 2017 |
Lancelott:Oh my! I tire for u ppl Where in the bible did you see Paul calling out a bad leader This is a democracy, the responsibility to choose a leader is in ur hands so choose the right one and not wait for Oyedepo. Secondly, there is no such thing as a Nigerian church. A church is global and must be global in relevance. It is biblically incorrect to prioritize one nation over the other. Also do not forget that LFC is heavily present in African countries. Thirdly, whether he gave to idp or not how would you know. If Oyedepo transfers 200 million naira now to NEMA now would you know? Oyedepo is not obligated to reveal his gifts or offerings neither is an organization obligated to reveal the receipt of such. 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ibtz: 12:14am On Aug 26, 2017 |
9inches:First and foremost, go and read d Prophet's history, u will av a clearer view. its so easy for u to be prejudicial. Secondly, the wars fought btwn the Prophet's time was btwn d muslims and arab pagans at d tym who sought to kill him in mecca, not CHRISTIANS AND JEWS wu lived with him PEACEFULLY in medina. Mind you he preached in mecca for ten years for d ARAB pagans to drop idol worship, and worship one God The God of Abraham. His followers were tortured, mercilessly killed and maimed. Afta dat his uncle Abu talib who had been protecting him died. This gave d arab pagans a clear chance to kill him but they failed and he escaped to medina but the arab pagans followed suit essentially given birth to d wars as ordained by God to protect themselves against d arab pagans comin to kill dem. dats y u av verses like Quran 2:190 i quote; And fight in the way of Allah those WHO FIGHT YOU, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors . So the Prophet Muhammad only fought dose wars as act of self defense, to collect back their seized possessions and belongings and to eradicate idol worship bound by the limits i.e do not kill women and children, do not uproot trees, do not destroy oda peoples places of worship, only fight dose who fight u first and if they cease u shud cease. Isis, Al-Qaeda, Boko etc take dis verses and quote dem halfway den ppl think think dey have their basis in islam. BUT THEY DONT. They do not represent muslims or av basis in islam. METHODS OF DIS TERRORISTS 1.SUICIDE 2.KILLING women and children 3. destroying people's place of worship 4. killing innocent people 5. enforce islam on odas The Prophet Muhammad never did any of d above. [Quran 16:125] Invite all to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and argue with them in ways that are the best. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided. 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ibtz: 12:30am On Aug 26, 2017 |
9inches: its not interpretation, its quoting halflly to satisfy their blood thirsty evil selves. read dis please!!!! A Factual reply to the "Boko Haram" Nonsense! BOKO HARAM and oda terrorists VS RELIGION OF ISLAM 1. The Boko Haram kidnapp girls and force them to change their religion. While Islam says: “Let there be no compulsion in religion.....” (Qur’an 2:256) 2. The Boko Haram have forcefully married off girls. While Islam says: ".....Do not inherit women against their will....." (Qur’an 4:19) 3. The Boko Haram are aggressive towards those who do not follow their beliefs. While Islam says: “IF IT HAD BEEN YOUR LORD’S WILL, all of the people on Earth would have believed [in one religion]….” (Quran 10:99) 4. The Boko Haram have murdered thousands of Muslims and Christians alike in cold blood. While Islam says: “….If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...” (Quran 5:32) 5. The Boko Haram use the cover of Islam to commit their mayhem and claim they are doing ALLAH'S work or JIHAD (HOLY WAR). While Islam says: “…… BUT DO NOT TRANSGRESS LIMITS; FOR GOD LOVES NOT TRANSGRESSORS.” (Qur’an 2:190)" 6. The Boko Haram believe once you are not with them you are an enemy to them. While Islam says: “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other)......” (Quran 49:13) 7. The Boko Haram have unleashed tyranny and indecency in the land. While Islam says: “God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny....” (Quran 16:90) Finally, upon all their false claims it is clear to see that Boko Haram do not represent Islam in any way because, they are acting against Islam. 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by 9inches(m): 1:22am On Aug 26, 2017 |
ibtz: The question was "ALL muslims don't interpret the quran the same way. True or false?" |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by UncleSnr(m): 2:54am On Aug 26, 2017 |
StopBanningMyEx: 10% of your earning multiply by 6 million + members (as at 2014). Guy no let me vex call you IDIOT! 2 Likes |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by omodave(m): 7:20am On Aug 26, 2017 |
Amajerry83: Please am sorry for quoting u, let start with this .. how many people have you feed this week ? |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ELECTCHIBU(m): 7:40am On Aug 26, 2017 |
annunaki2:you are a fool, just that you have not realized it yet. Who are you to talk about a man of God that way, are you the one that called him to ministry? BIG FOOL, next time mind your words 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ELECTCHIBU(m): 7:41am On Aug 26, 2017 |
annunaki2:you are a fool, just that you have not realized it yet. Who are you to talk about a man of God that way, are you the one that called him to ministry? BIG FOOL, next time mind your words. 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by Joseunlimited(f): 8:43am On Aug 26, 2017 |
UncleSnr:Tales |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by 9inches(m): 10:40am On Aug 26, 2017 |
ibtz: 1 & 4 are the same - killing of innocent people - Abu Afak, Asma (Marwan's daughter), adolescent boys of Qurayza, Al-Ansi (Sahih Bukhari Book 64, Hadith 402), etc 2. KILLING women and children - Sahih al-Bukhari volume 4, Book 52, Hadith 258 Sunan Abu Dawud : Dar-us-Salam reference / Hadith 2671 Fartana (a slave girl of Abdullah ibn Khatal) 3. destroying people's place of worship - kaaba of Yemen/Dhul- Khalasa (Sahih Bukhari Book 56, Hadith 229) More: https://islamqa.info/en/20894 5. enforce islam on odas - Sahih Bukhari – Volume 4, Book 53, Hadith 392 Sahih Bukhari – Volume 9, Book 92, Hadith 447 Sahih Bukhari – Volume 1, Book 8, Hadith 387 Quran 9:29 “Fight those from among the People of the Book who believe neither in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor hold as unlawful what God and His Messenger have declared to be unlawful, nor follow the true religion, until they pay the tax willingly and agree to submit.” 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ELECTCHIBU(m): 10:50am On Aug 26, 2017 |
princetom1:You're a FOOL, just that u don't know yet, if u book an appointment and the pastor doesn't have time because of busy schedules should he kill himself to please u. You don't pay tithe, u don't give offering, u don't give to men of God, allow people that know its benefit to do it. I wonder why u keep disturbing urself over that. Is it now wrong for a man of God to go to Dubai, to have a private jet, to live in a decent house, etc? But if an unbeliever do, it woundn't be wrong! Do u think its better for a man of God to be poor? For islam to get all the money to keep buying heavy guns and sponsoring terrorism? If any church member is poor, its his/her fault, not God's fault neither is the Pastor's fault. So stop blaming a man of God for church members' poverty. And mind you, tithing, offering, first fruit, etc is a biblical principle, not the pastors' doctrine which every true christian should abide by. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ELECTCHIBU(m): 10:53am On Aug 26, 2017 |
PrecisionFx:FOOL, how do u know that they're looking for dinner. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by princetom1(m): 11:47am On Aug 26, 2017 |
ELECTCHIBU: Oh, some times, u gat to look at what u write and use ur brain. No wonder these men keep misbehaving. As if Jesus Christian didn't live before these men. Ask urself this question, if Jesus is alive today or living in our own time, will he buy a jet, buy a mansion, employ securities, buy all the most expensive shits in the world? Pls, which Bible una dey read sef? Between, ur answers is more of a hatred one because of what the Muslims can do. Hmnn. My brother, leave Muslims alone and face ur own religion, the way i see u, u go soon find money buy gun o. Pls stop calling people fool, it doesn't portray u as better. Between, am a Christian and doesn't follow blindly... Wen i see people in bad financial conditions, i feel for them, i help them in any way i can, but these pastors will rather collect the last dime from that old widow in her church and still watch dem clean same church and he has in excess but he doesn't care even if they die, e no concern am. Christians are supposed to imbibe all the nice qualities in this world, not the showing off, scandals and so on trailing these pastors. Shalom |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by tunary(m): 12:19pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
mikebuddy:I support this write up 100% cos its States the fact |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by tunary(m): 12:36pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
samju100:LOL |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ELECTCHIBU(m): 2:08pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
princetom1:and u live with them to know that they don't help people, to know that they collect d last dime of widows? |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by princetom1(m): 3:29pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
ELECTCHIBU: Stop trying to defend wat u don't know. I have seen with my own eyes.... |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by stonemasonn: 3:36pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
mencer:and to some living in opulence and riches is righteousness. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ultraboss(m): 3:42pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Pope Francis is an example of a simple religious leader lifestyle |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ibtz: 4:02pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
9inches: Your reply in order. Please read more from http://www.discoveringislam.org/ibn_isshaaq_stories.htm The Killing of Abdullah bin Khatal and His Two Singing Girls The story as alleged goes like this. Abdullah bin Khatal was a convert to Islam. He later apostated and his two singing girls start singing songs making fun of Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.). The Prophet did not like this and allegedly ordered all three of them to be killed. Abdullah was allegedly killed by two Muslims. One of his girls was also allegedly killed too. However, the other girl managed to get away and survive. (Ibn IssHaaq, p. 551) This story is only found in Ibn IssHaaq and is not mentioned in any Hadith book. The Isnad (chain of transmissions) for this story is broken and very weak. Thus, we can safely say that this story like the rest is false. And we've already seen that Prophet Muhammad did not order the killing of women from the above quoted Hadith. This story was most likely made up by Jews of Madinah and Ibn IssHaaq probably got this fabricated tale from them. 1. This is bukhari 64 hadith 402. Chapter: The story of Al-Aswad Al-‘Ansi (71) باب قِصَّةُ الأَسْوَدِ الْعَنْسِيِّ Narrated Ubaidullah bin `Abdullah bin `Utba: We were informed that Musailima Al-Kadhdhab had arrived in Medina and stayed in the house of the daughter of Al-Harith. The daughter of Al-Harith bin Kuraiz was his wife and she was the mother of `Abdullah bin 'Amir. There came to him Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) accompanied by Thabit bin Qais bin Shammas who was called the orator of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) had a stick in his hand then. The Prophet (ﷺ) stopped before Musailima and spoke to him. Musailima said to him, "If you wish, we would not interfere between you and the rule, on condition that the rule will be ours after you... The Prophet said, "If you asked me for this stick, I would not give it to you. I think you are the same person who was shown to me in a dream. And this is Thabit bin Al-Qais who will answer you on my behalf." The Prophet (ﷺ) then went away. I asked Ibn `Abbas about the dream Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) had mentioned. Ibn `Abbas said, "Someone told me that the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "When I was sleeping, I saw in a dream that two gold bangles were put in my hands, and that frightened me and made me dislike them. Then I was allowed to blow on them, and when I blew at them, both of them flew. Then I interpreted them as two liars who would appear.' One of them was Al-`Ansi who was killed by Fairuz in Yemen and the other was Musailima Al-Kadhdbab." Did the Prophet kill any innocent person here 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ibtz: 4:07pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
9inches:2. The woman killed was done in error and was in killed in the battlefield as the Prophet disapproved of killing women and children as evident by the following hadith. Chapter: Regarding Killing Women (121) ﺑﺎﺏ ﻓِﻲ ﻗَﺘْﻞِ ﺍﻟﻨِّﺴَﺎﺀِ ‘Abd Allaah bin (mas’ud) said “A woman was found slain in one of the battles of the Apostle of Allaah( ﷺ ). The Apostle of Allaah( ﷺ ) forbade to kill women and children Abu dawud 2668 When we were with the Messenger of Allah ( ﷺ ) on an expedition, he saw some people collected together over something and sent a man and said: See, what are these people collected around? He then came and said: They are round a woman who has been killed. He said: This is not one with whom fighting should have taken place. Khalid ibn al-Walid was in charge of the van; so he sent a man and said: Tell Khalid not to kill a woman or a hired servant. 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ibtz: 4:09pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
9inches: 3. The title of dat article is obligation to destroy idols.I am sure christian evangelist also go out to destroy idols in shrines and what have u. It is not to destroy churches or Jewish synagogues. I am sure in dat article u wud not find such 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ibtz: 4:23pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
9inches: 4. As to d first hadith bukhari book 92 447 dis is d quotation Chapter: “…But, man is ever more quarrelsome than anything.” He was only being quarrelsome he neva carried it out because it was not ordered by God as evident in d narration. He said that is what I want (meaning him not God).Thats y d chapter is named "But, man is ever more quarrelsome than anything.” Narrated Abu Huraira: While we were in the mosque, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came out and said, "Let us proceed to the Jews." So we went out with him till we came to Bait-al-Midras. The Prophet (ﷺ) stood up there and called them, saying, "O assembly of Jews! Surrender to Allah (embrace Islam) and you will be safe!" They said, "You have conveyed Allah's message, O Aba-al-Qasim" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) then said to them, "That is what I want; embrace Islam and you will be safe." They said, "You have conveyed the message, O Aba-al- Qasim." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) then said to them, "That is what I want," and repeated his words for the third time and added, "Know that the earth is for Allah and I want to exile you from this land, so whoever among you has property he should sell it, otherwise, know that the land is for Allah and His Apostle." For d second bukari book 8 The conditions as stated in the Quran like Quran 2:190 still holds, only fight if u r attacked but transgress not the limits. (Narrated By Anas bin Malik : Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have." Quran 2:145 And even if you were to bring to the people of the scripture(jews and christians) all the Aayay (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations etc) they would not follow your Qiblah, nor are u going to follow their Qiblah. Verily if u follow their desires after that which you have received of knowledge (from Allah), then indeed yoy will be one of the wrong doers. Quran 109 best illustrates abt not forcing islam onto odas like dis verse Quran 109:6 "To you be your religion and to me my religion. " anoda one Quran 2:256 There is no compulsion in religion..... 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ibtz: 4:25pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
9inches: This is Quran 9:29 "Fight against those who believe not in Allah(arab pagans), nor in the last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and his Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e islam)from among the people of the scripture until they pay the jizyah with willing submission and are willing to pay it. " Fighting against d arab pagans still held conditions like 1. Fight only if u are attacked first as evident in Quran 2:190 [Quran 2:190] And fight in the Way of Allâh those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allâh likes not the transgressors. 2. Not attack people that do not attack u as evident in the verses QURAN 60:8 Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion nor drove you out of your homes. verily Allah loves those who deal with equity Quran 60:9 It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion and have driven you out and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the wrong doers. Lastly Quran 9:29 talks abt jizyah (a tax levied on non muslims under THE protection of a muslim Government). So meaning fight dose among d ppl of d book wu refuse to pay tax until they pay. Note, Muslims to do pay tax. Unda any normal govt if u refuse to pay tax u will be sanctioned, arrested, imprisoned etc. Quran 2:145 And even if you were to bring to the people of the scripture(jews and christians) all the Aayat (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations etc) they would not follow your Qiblah, nor are u going to follow their Qiblah. Verily if u follow their desires after that which you have received of knowledge (from Allah), then indeed yoy will be one of the wrong doers. 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by ibtz: 4:27pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
9inches: i believe i answered that, read my post again. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by Jakumo(m): 5:21pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
paxonel: Kai Deep thinkers day for Nairaland, Walahi. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo And Wife At The Burj Al Arab Hotel, Dubai. Photos by Nobody: 6:25pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
ELECTCHIBU: I know many if them living around me presently, I live opposite Winners church independence layout Enugu. That's why. |
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