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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by samtol4(m): 1:06pm On Aug 26, 2017
[quote author=samtol4 post=59842843][/quote]you don't throw new players to an explosive match
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:13pm On Aug 26, 2017
forgiveness:



Yes! Rohr is drunk to have omitted Kayode Olanrewaju from the list because he gave the same reason for omitting him due to the deal that worth replacing Iheanacho with Kayode Olanrewaju. I hope with this information u would have been high on shepe or ogogoro to omit him. Bhuuuhahaha! shocked grin

50>5 :>wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:24pm On Aug 26, 2017
Out of natural positions. Sure!!
Mickael2:



I am sorry, is there anyone of them that I played out of position?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:34pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
Kortrijk 1-1 Mouscron

Ajagun starts for Kortrijk
Awoniyi bags second consecutive assist to draw Mouscron level, after his debut goal 3 rounds ago.
And a certain Cameroonian is his teammate at Mouscron. If we should go by Cameroon's standard, Awoniyi would be in SE now.. lol

Fabrice Olingo didn't even start. However, Awoniyi has been a starter of late.. I think we Nigerians right off ourselves easily/prematurely.

Be sincere, go back to our list of strikers and tell me Awoniyi would have displaced anyone of them. Remember Olanrewaju Kayode and Henry Onyekuru did not even make it.

Does this not translate instead to the fact that our attack is more competitive than that of Cameroon?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:40pm On Aug 26, 2017
The point is when you perform at a higher stage you bring attention to yourself. You can be hardly ignored. When you perform at a lower stage you also bring attention to yourself. But it may take you longer to get a call up. Nwakaeme was the best player in Israel last season. But he is just getting called because of his exploits in the UEFA champions league qualification, and he is seen as someone who has grit, that gave him the advantage especially as regards Cameroon. Don't forget it also took Ogu long before he got a recall

Players like Kayode, Onyekuru brought some attention to themselves, but don't expect they will displace proven regulars based on recent matches in the national team. What some of you consider past glory is not in the distant past like we want to make it seem. Any player who is not meeting up will be phased out eventually. There are so many players doing quite well, we can only make accurate comparisons overtime. We can't just say one player is better than another player based on the most recent stats.

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I will say players like moses Simon and Musa better watches their backs. Because there are players gearing up to seize their chance with both hands. But don't E xpect that change should happen suddenly. Musa for example earned an assist against Algeria. He has scored in recent friendlies. It will be hard to just dump him. He would be kept in SE fold for now even if it means just making the bench

forgiveness:



Nwakeam scored 13 Goals last season in the Israeli league, the coach and his cronies has quickly included him on the list by excluding Kayode Olanrewaju who had scored the same numbers of goals in the said league 3 or 4 seasons ago (but conspicuously overlooked).

Last season, he was not included in the list despite the fact that he scored goals and assisted in the Europa league but was latter included after public outcry, and when he came, he was not played in some matches and introduced in the second half.

After winning the best player of the year and the highest goal scorer in the Austrian league Manchester City noticed him but our national team coach ignored him due to some advice from na my brother somebody.


My point is Israeli league has suddenly become the alfa and the omega, ba, because of NWAKEAM but when Kayode was there, it was an obscure league.

Who una dey deceive? grin

NWAKEAM is not better than what is on ground but we know na we we dey at play. grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:41pm On Aug 26, 2017
[quote author=Kog45 post=59841839][/quote]

You dey mind dem.

As you rightly said, I am also ok with Onazi and Ndidi but excluding Onazi completely from the league for Mikel Agu who is also in the Turkish league, alongside Ogu and Esiti, is a no no for me'

On Simon and Musa, I think the goal is to bring inOnyekuru whom I think is good but not better than the two. They are just deceiving demselves.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:49pm On Aug 26, 2017
Onyekuru could be better. Don't write him off just after a few games in the Jupiler league. A better judgement can be made overtime. It's not like Musa and Moses have an excellent record at their clubs of recent.

forgiveness:


You dey mind dem.

As you rightly said, I am also ok with Onazi and Ndidi but excluding Onazi completely from the league for Mikel Agu who is also in the Turkish league, alongside Ogu and Esiti, is a no no for me'

On Simon and Musa, I think the goal is to bring inOnyekuru whom I think is good but not better than the two. They are just deacieving demselves.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:51pm On Aug 26, 2017
Oh yes. But my point was we need to also consider players in leagues we consider low, especially in positions we need reinforcement.
Icon4s:


Be sincere, go back to our list of strikers and tell me Awoniyi would have displaced anyone of them. Remember Olanrewaju Kayode and Henry Onyekuru did not even make it.

Does this not translate instead to the fact that our attack is more competitive than that of Cameroon?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:55pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
Oh yes. But my point was we need to also consider players in leagues we consider low, especially in positions we need reinforcement.

We invite only the best.

No special considerations for any group of players or leagues. Once the technical crew see you as one who can add value, you get called up.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:58pm On Aug 26, 2017
Follow my arguments on here. We invite who we think is best. Like I said some of these players will be phased out eventually.
Icon4s:


We invite only the best.

No special considerations for any group of players or leagues. Once the technical crew see you as one who can add value, you get called up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:01pm On Aug 26, 2017
komekn:


I disagree with your position, I am suprised you even have that view. Considering your past substantive contributions.

It is the club that you play in week and week out, the performances and achievements you make in your club. That is what gives the rational and justification for your selection to the SE.

So if you are striker scoring 30 goals in Azerbaijan it's not the same as scoring even 5 goals in La liga.

I know that you know these things, perplexed.
We are talking about the Right Back position which is up for grabs owing to the fact that we don't have a specialist in that position. The better player in the Nigerian league who have displayed guts, skill and ability in that position deserves a look in. Going by his past antecedents as an ex youth international, Caf champions league and CHAN championship player, it makes sense to have him in the mix.
If he's performing in Nigeria, nothing stops him from performing in Cyprus and Netherlands where his competition for the position plays.
That has been my position

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:01pm On Aug 26, 2017
Mickael2:


Onazi was not better than Ndidi in this match against SA, and in the match against Senegal when he left we got better. so I don't know where your claim is coming from. I could care less who is better between Azubuike and Raheem, none of them will start the matches anyways so that's a personal opinion.

next time you ever say that Moses Simon is a more complete player than Henry I will know you just came back from a smoking spree. which Moses Simon? and don't give me that stuff about his crosses doing this and that, for a winger who plays for the top club in Belgium to only hit 5 assists a whole season what does that tell you?! not to mention that more than half of that is from set pieces. mind you, he did not score a single set piece goal last season, or if he did it was just once but I can't find that anywhere, so what us special about his set pieces exactly? should I mention goals? it took Suarez about 3 months to score his first goal for Barcelona so I don't understand your point. and the season is just 3 or so games old, so because.... Roberto scored in the first game of the season he will now be the highest goal scorer come the end of the season? not to mention that the only goal credited to Anderletch had Onyekuru written all over it, Moses Simon last u checked has hardly played this season, should I show you the stats?


show me facts, shikena!

What is your defination of complete and tell me why Onyekuru is better and more complete than Simon Moses? I want facts.

Who told you Simon Moses played as a winger last season? sad shocked shocked shocked grin grin grin grin

How many assist does he(Oyekuru) have this season? zero out of all the matches played so far. shocked grin So. how is he better than Simon Moses?

Atleat, Moses was incharch of tacking set pieces for his club and he can score with a free kick, can that be said of Oyekuru? shocked grin

Na lie you lie, Moses has more game time than Onyekuru in all competition this this season. ntor! tongue grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:03pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
Follow my arguments on here. We invite who we think is best. Like I said some of these players will be phased out eventually.

Not just some but all eventually.

My own is the transition should be gradual and must lead to improvements.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:05pm On Aug 26, 2017
forgiveness:
Based on past glory theory some players should not be on the list. grin

Number one on the list is HENRY ONYEKURU. Zero goal, zero assist and *cough*that's it. grin

Number two on the list is KELECHI IHEANACHO... Zero goal, zero assist and 8 minutes of game time. Chisos! shocked grin

While Ahmed Musa don score for the only match he played and Moses Simon has done nothing special as Henry though he has more game time than Onyekuru yet some people want them out just because of ONYEKURU.

Can Onyekuru play free kick better than Simon Moses? can Onyekuru play SS, RM, AM, LM & CF better than Moses Simon? shocked grin

OK, Taiwo Awoniyi has scored 1 goal and assisted twice in 3 matches, why is he not mentioned or called? Is this not present glory? grin

Based on Rohr claims of lack of game time one player ought not to be in the team..

Kelechi Iheanacho...... grin

Why did Rohr exclude Kayode Olanrewaju? Mafians ruling the national team as a cult. I guess. grin

I'm surprised you didn't mention Olayinka. The guy have been the best Nigerian player in Europe this season so far. He has been tearing teams to pieces all season. Apart from. Victor Moses, no winger in this SE team can lace his boots as I speak.
No jokes .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:06pm On Aug 26, 2017
forgiveness:



show me facts, shikena!

What is your defination of complete and tell me why Onyekuru is better and more complete than Simon Moses? I want facts.

Who told you Simon Moses played as a winger last season? sad shocked shocked shocked grin grin grin grin

How many assist does he(Oyekuru) has this season? zero out of all the matches played so far. shocked grin So. how is he better than Simon Moses?

Atleat, Moses was incharch of tacking set pieces for his club and he can score with a free kick, can that be said of Oyekuru? shocked grin

Na lie you lie, Moses has more game time than Onyekuru in all competition this this season. ntor! tongue grin


For now I still pick Simon ahead of Onyekuru.

Although Simon will not make my starting list.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:08pm On Aug 26, 2017
We are saying the same thing. But Russia is the context here. Maybe about 30% of this set up will not make it to Russia, if we qualify.
Icon4s:


Not just some but all eventually.

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Don't expect that when we qualify we would have many new faces. In actuality it rarely happens. Unless we bring back Oningbide.

National team coaches don't change a winning team like that.

My own is the transition should be gradual and must lead to improvements.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:10pm On Aug 26, 2017
Icon4s:


Be sincere, go back to our list of strikers and tell me Awoniyi would have displaced anyone of them. Remember Olanrewaju Kayode and Henry Onyekuru did not even make it.

Does this not translate instead to the fact that our attack is more competitive than that of Cameroon?

Based on the theory past glory Awoniyi will displace Iheanacho. simple.


Kayode is more experienced and better than Nwakeam
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 2:13pm On Aug 26, 2017
[quote author=Kog45 post=59841839][/quote] how many Nigeria players...can ever secure a move to galatasary?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 2:15pm On Aug 26, 2017
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Based on the theory past glory Awoniyi will displace Iheanacho. simple.


Kayode is more experienced and better than Nwakeam
stop playing to the galary....just say you want more of your tribal men in the SE and we all will understand...as simple as that
you mean same awoniyi who is just finding his place now.....
even in that Belgium league....nacho is far ahead....very far.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:15pm On Aug 26, 2017
I hope you are being sarcastic again. Nwakaeme has prooved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode. Iheanacho has always been better than Awoniyi.

forgiveness:


Based on the theory past glory Awoniyi will displace Iheanacho. simple.


Kayode is more experienced and better than Nwakeam

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 2:17pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
I hope you are being sarcastic again. Nwakaeme has prooved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode. Iheanacho has always been better than Awoniyi.

please just leave him...
the side obviously want more of his tribal men in the SE.....
had it been rohr was a Nigerian....he would have been called a tribalist by now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:25pm On Aug 26, 2017
goldfish80:


I'm surprised you didn't mention Olayinka. The guy have been the best Nigerian player in Europe this season so far. He has been tearing teams to pieces all season. Apart from. Victor Moses, no winger in this SE team can lace his boots as I speak.
No jokes .

I know Olayinka has been doing well majorly as a RW with 4 assists, and has scored the only goal as a CF and with an assist yet people are talking about past glory. I just intentionally excluded him before then give me name.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:31pm On Aug 26, 2017
Na Maine referee just ref Bou vs Mcity match lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:31pm On Aug 26, 2017
Na Naija referee just ref Bou vs Mcity match lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:32pm On Aug 26, 2017
forgiveness:

Based on the theory past glory Awoniyi will displace Iheanacho. simple.

Kayode is more experienced and better than Nwakeam
Who is saying the squad was selected based on past glory?
And how do you define past Glory in this context?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:32pm On Aug 26, 2017
forgiveness:

Based on the theory past glory Awoniyi will displace Iheanacho. simple.

Kayode is more experienced and better than Nwakeam
Who is saying the squad was selected based on past glory?
And how do you define past Glory in this context?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:32pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
I hope you are being sarcastic again. Nwakaeme has prooved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode. Iheanacho has always been better than Awoniyi.


Chisos! shocked shocked shocked shocked Nwakeame proved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode! bhahahahaha! Are you serious?

Oya, explain how, when and where he played at the higer stage. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:34pm On Aug 26, 2017
You guys expect a guy to just get a call up after 4 matches in the Jupiler League, considering he was relatively unknown before now. Na fantasy league we dey play.

forgiveness:

ive me name.
I know Olayinka has been doing well majorly as a RW with 4 assists, and has scored the only goal as a CF and with a assist yet people are talking about past glory. I just intentionally excluded him before then g
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:38pm On Aug 26, 2017
Humility017:

please just leave him...
the side obviously want more of his tribal men in the SE.....
Humility017 post=59844642:


stop playing to the galary....just say you want more of your tribal men in the SE and we all will understand...as simple as that
you mean same awoniyi who is just finding his place now.....
even in that Belgium league....nacho is far ahead....very far.
had it been rohr was a Nigerian....he would have been called a tribalist by now

na dis kind mumu talk no gree me come here. If you ask him how Nwakeame played at the higher level than Kayode na Tribalism will go commot for em mouth. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:38pm On Aug 26, 2017
UEFA league qualification. Before now he was best in Israel. Who cared, but we started noticing him then. It will be foolhardy to thing match up is never considered during invitation. I think he also got a call up because Cameroon is the opponent and Rohr feel he can add the value he needs.

There is no double standards in selection. There are many factors the coaches consider.

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Rohr has ran the rule over Kayode. Let's not not forget that.

forgiveness:


Chisos! shocked shocked shocked shocked Nwakeame proved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode! bhahahahaha! Are you serious?

Oya, explain how, when and where he played at the higer stage. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:40pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
I hope you are being sarcastic again. Nwakaeme has prooved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode. Iheanacho has always been better than Awoniyi.


How has Nwakaeme proved himself at a higher stage than Kayode??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:43pm On Aug 26, 2017
Icon4s:


Not just some but all eventually.

My own is the transition should be gradual and must lead to improvements.
I believe u have been following this game for so long and it's simple 80% of this present squad w make d team to Russia,only special talent w gate crash into d team just like d way Olishe,Amuneke make d US 94 team during qualifier and Chidi Nwanu,Mike Emenalo break into d main team by displaced Isaac Semitone and Nduka Ugbade respectively after Tunisia 94 Afcon.

Truly,goalkeeping aspect is for grab for anybody coz d opportunity is open,Ikeme is down,Enyeama coming back look dicey, Akpeyi yet to prove is equal to d task.

RB,I see Ola Aina as d answer but need to wait for his debut game but he has every thing to claim d RB,Echiejele at LB,well I can say much but a good player in d mould of Aina w be an answer,though Echiejele still has d experience.

The CB is okay with d pair of Balogun and Ekong,hope player like Awaziem can raise his game and Omeruo can regain his form but any good rookie can break into this team.

D midfield is saturated with a lot of options either in DM,CM,AM with player like Mikel,Ndidi,Onazi,Ogu,Agu,Etebor,Iwobi,Esiti etc so it w take a rare gem to break into this team,also attacks is full of options with d likes of Nacho, Ighalo,Musa,Vic Moses,it w take special talent to displace this guys.

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