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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:45pm On Aug 26, 2017
UEFA league qualification is a higher stage than the domestic league. Nwakaeme is the best player in Israel just a Kayode was voted the best in Austria. I only made a statement of fact. CAF champions league is a higher stage than the domestic league -- bringing it home.

tbaba1234:


How has Nwakaeme proved himself at a higher stage than Kayode??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:46pm On Aug 26, 2017
tbaba1234:

How has Nwakaeme proved himself at a higher stage than Kayode??
same question I have in mind
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:51pm On Aug 26, 2017
take note.. I said proved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode -- Champions League qualification. He did not just play at a higher stage. but proved his mettle as well. That's an advantage over Kayode. And that is a fact.

Mickael2:


same question I have in mind

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 2:53pm On Aug 26, 2017
forgiveness:


na dis kind mumu talk no gree me come here. If you ask him how Nwakeame played at the higher level than Kayode na Tribalism will go commot for em mouth. grin
if there should be any mumu talk...
just re-read your write ups
and tell which is mumu and irrational talk.
your stance regarding comparing nacho wit awoniyi should prove that....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:54pm On Aug 26, 2017
It is for the same reason I'm calling for a future call up for Adegbenro -- Europa League. He did not only play at that level, but almost single handedly knocked out Ajax. That's not a feat to be ignored.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:54pm On Aug 26, 2017
Icon4s:


Who is saying the squad was selected based on past glory?

And how do you define past Glory in this context?


scroll and read comments that supposed Musa, Onazi and Simon Moses were included based on past glory.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:56pm On Aug 26, 2017
Humility017:

please just leave him...
the side obviously want more of his tribal men in the SE.....
had it been rohr was a Nigerian....he would have been called a tribalist by now
My man don't let us turn this thread to political thread where they based their comments on tribal,this is football section and let us talk football,though we have a lot of comments that have tribal traits but only people with third eyes knows that and that should not derail d thread.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:00pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
UEFA league qualification is a higher stage than the domestic league. Nwakaeme is the best player in Israel just a Kayode was voted the best in Austria. I only made a statement of fact. CAF champions league is a higher stage than the domestic league -- bringing it home.


What domestic league? Was Kayode not outstanding in the Europa league? How is UEFA league qualification greater than the Europa league??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 3:04pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
Recent national team stats Nko? If we keep changing our team based on players most recent matches at club level, will we have a team?

I think he was just being sarcastic.

You shouldn't take him seriously.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:05pm On Aug 26, 2017
The truth is that we are very sentimental in most things. Even when there is no foul play we suspect foul play. We expect that there should be one set standard as to who gets invited e.g ONLY based on the league they play, ONLY based on current form, ONLY who scores the most goals, ONLY who has the most assists. etc
The reality is, some or all of these factors, AND MORE are put into consideration. If it were a national coach running the SE, I will believe he could be tribalistic because in most of our national affairs we throw away logic, we sacrifice success for sentiments. That's just our mindset as Nigerians -- at least most of us.

Rohr is in charge now, let's at least believe he is selecting without sentiments.

Kog45:
My man don't let us turn this thread to political thread where they based their comments on tribal,this is football section and let us talk football,though we have a lot of comments that have tribal traits but only people with third eyes knows that and that should not derail d thread.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 3:07pm On Aug 26, 2017
Kog45:
My man don't let us turn this thread to political thread where they based their comments on tribal,this is football section and let us talk football,though we have a lot of comments that have tribal traits but only people with third eyes knows that and that should not derail d thread.
thanks for this....
I will yield sir....
just hate tribalism so much....
especially when it comes to politics n football

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:09pm On Aug 26, 2017
Humility017:

if there should be any mumu talk...
just re-read your write ups
and tell which is mumu and irrational talk.
your stance regarding comparing nacho wit awoniyi should prove that....


How did Nwakeame proved himself at higer stage than Kayode? Humility017 answer na Tribalism.... grin Is that not mumunism? shocked grin

If you have better answers than that den share. Don't pollute dis thread with ya dirty tribalism answers. thanks angry angry angry grin grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:10pm On Aug 26, 2017
By domestic league, I meant their performances at their respective domestic league -- Austria and Israel.
But Kayode was invited before now. Did he get invited immediately? No!.. UEFA champions league qualification just happened. I'm sure about Nwakaeme, who just proved his mettle at the UEFA league qualification. He performed. He scored breathtaking goals. That cannot be ignored. I didn't watch Kayode at the Europa league. Can you tell us how he performed.

tbaba1234:


What domestic league? Was Kayode not outstanding in the Europa league? How is UEFA league qualification greater than the Europa league??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:15pm On Aug 26, 2017
Kog45:
I believe u have been following this game for so long and it's simple 80% of this present squad w make d team to Russia,only special talent w gate crash into d team just like d way Olishe,Amuneke make d US 94 team during qualifier and Chidi Nwanu,Mike Emenalo break into d main team by displaced Isaac Semitone and Nduka Ugbade respectively after Tunisia 94 Afcon.

Truly,goalkeeping aspect is for grab for anybody coz d opportunity is open,Ikeme is down,Enyeama coming back look dicey, Akpeyi yet to prove is equal to d task.

RB,I see Ola Aina as d answer but need to wait for his debut game but he has every thing to claim d RB,Echiejele at LB,well I can say much but a good player in d mould of Aina w be an answer,though Echiejele still has d experience.

The CB is okay with d pair of Balogun and Ekong,hope player like Awaziem can raise his game and Omeruo can regain his form but any good rookie can break into this team.

D midfield is saturated with a lot of options either in DM,CM,AM with player like Mikel,Ndidi,Onazi,Ogu,Agu,Etebor,Iwobi,Esiti etc so it w take a rare gem to break into this team,also attacks is full of options with d likes of Nacho, Ighalo,Musa,Vic Moses,it w take special talent to displace this guys.

Yeah. No coach likes changing a winning team.

If this team can manage to squeeze through to Russia from this kind of group then you'll agree with me that many of them would be difficult to displace.

You are very right about the defensive setup and the prospects we have. Same goes for the midfield.

It will really take exceptional talents to break in.

Talking about that RB position many here thought Tyrone Ebuehi would easily walk into that position with the kind of stats and ratings we were seeing here but Lo and behold he is not ready.
I would also want Rohr to have a good assessment of Aina. Shehu is not a natural RB so I would want to see a natural RB in that position in the fore-seeable future.

However if the young RBs are not ready then Shehu should continue in that position.

For that midfield it would be difficult for a young/newbie to break in. Hopes were high on Kelechi Nwakali. But he seem not to be ready. Someone like Azubuike Okechukwu needs to be more than convincing to return to the Super Eagles.

For the wing forwards position, so many names are flying: Henry Onyekuru, Samuel Kalu, Denis Bonaventure, Peter Olayinka. This season would determine which of them would be given a chance to fight for a position. The likes of V. Moses, Alex Iwobi, And Simon Moses are definitely ahead. Even Ahmed Musa due to experience. Baring Injuries I expect V. Moses and Alex Iwobi to make it to Russia. Ahmed Musa, and Simon would have up there games to remain above those Rookies who are already knocking on the door.

For our attack, a lot depends on Iheanacho's performance at Leicester this season. Rohr plays a lone striker. If iheanacho gets it right at Leicester he seals that CF position. Else he throws it open for even Rookies like Osimhen, Awoniyi and Kingsley Michael to get a look in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 3:16pm On Aug 26, 2017
forgiveness:



How did Nwakeame proved himself at higer stage than Kayode? Humility017 answer na Tribalism.... grin Is that not mumunism? shocked grin

If you have better answers than that den share. Don't pollute dis thread with ya dirty tribalism answers. thanks angry angry angry grin grin grin grin
it seems....you lack manners.
just don't wanna come to your level...these evening...
it's like you're pained so pained...
let me leave rest

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:19pm On Aug 26, 2017
forgiveness:



scroll and read comments that supposed Musa, Onazi and Simon Moses were included based on past glory.

There is nothing like past Glory in this case. How old is the season?

We know the individual capabilities of these players.

Going by the way some people reason here we will be having different sets of 23 players every match.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 3:20pm On Aug 26, 2017
Icon4s:


Yeah. No coach likes changing a winning team.

If this team can manage to squeeze through to Russia from this kind of group then you'll agree with me that many of them would be difficult to displace.

You are very right about the defensive setup and the prospects we have. Same goes for the midfield.

It will really take exceptional talents to break in.

Talking about that RB position many here thought Tyrone Ebuehi would easily walk into that position with the kind of stats and ratings we were seeing here but Lo and behold he is not ready.
I would also want Rohr to have a good assessment of Aina. Shehu is not a natural RB so I would want to see a natural RB in that position in the fore-seeable future.

However if the young RBs are not ready then Shehu should continue in that position.

For that midfield it would be difficult for a young/newbie to break in. Hopes were high on Kelechi Nwakali. But he seem not to be ready. Someone like Azubuike Okechukwu needs to be more than convincing to return to the Super Eagles.

For the wing forwards position, so many names are flying: Henry Onyekuru, Samuel Kalu, Denis Bonaventure, Peter Olayinka. This season would determine which of them would be given a chance to fight for a position. The likes of V. Moses, Alex Iwobi, And Simon Moses are definitely ahead. Even Ahmed Musa due to experience. Baring Injuries I expect V. Moses and Alex Iwobi to make it to Russia. Ahmed Musa, and Simon would have up there games to remain above those Rookies who are already knocking on the door.

For our attack, a lot depends on Iheanacho's performance at Leicester this season. Rohr plays a lone striker. If iheanacho gets it right at Leicester he seals that CF position. Else he throws it open for even Rookies like Osimhen, Awoniyi and Kingsley Michael to get a look in.


exceptional write up
you're very right with all you put up there....
i do believe should we scale through to Russia....from these Cameroon match...
rohr will like try some of these young lads wit the Zambia nd Algeria games....
that will be an opportunity some of them just need....the talented ones will seize such opportunity I believe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:22pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
I hope you are being sarcastic again. Nwakaeme has prooved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode. Iheanacho has always been better than Awoniyi.

Nwakaeme better than Kayode?champions league abi,No my man that should not be d yardstick,hope u remember a player called Mike Obiku of feyenord in d 90s,this guy was a bomb but still find it difficult to displace Yekini or even get a call up to displace Siasia or Amokachie,also Richard Owubokiri of Boavista who had it so good in Europe but couldn't make it in d national team,hope u remember Chris Ohenhen.

I'm not saying Kayode is better than Nwakaeme vice versa but basing your argument on champions league play off,I w never accept that

On Awoniyi and Nacho we should not go into that coz they belong to different class, Nacho is on another level that I believe Awoniyi is aspiring to be,so case close.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:24pm On Aug 26, 2017
Isaac Success on the bench...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:28pm On Aug 26, 2017
I know say you sabi English o.. I never even use that word "better" since.. no be una they suspect foul play say Nwakaeme was invited, why not Kayode?. I only said Nwakaeme has proved his mettle at a higher stage considering UEFA Champions league qualification. If the stats prove me wrong, I will concede. But let's not forget many factors are also put into consideration in player selection.

I have never said nwakaeme is better, or vice versa. last last, dem go reach camp. It's either Rohr likes what he sees, or he don't.

Kog45:
Nwakaeme better than Kayode?champions league abi,No my man that should not be d yardstick,hope u remember a player called Mike Obiku of feyenord in d 90s,this guy was a bomb but still find it difficult to displace Yekini or even get a call up to displace Siasia or Amokachie,also Richard Owubokiri of Boavista who had it so good in Europe but couldn't make it in d national team,hope u remember Chris Ohenhen.

I'm not saying Kayode is better than Nwakaeme vice versa but basing your argument on champions league play off,I w never accept that

On Awoniyi and Nacho we should not go into that coz they belong to different class, Nacho is on another level that I believe Awoniyi is aspiring to be,so case close.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:28pm On Aug 26, 2017
Humility017:

it seems....you lack manners.
just don't wanna come to your level...these evening...
it's like you're pained so pained...
let me leave rest

hahahhhahhhahha! I no talk am say he will not tell how Nwakaeme has played at the higher stage than Kayode? grin Na manner em come dey lecture now. Bhahahahahahaha! grin grin grin grin

Mister man, I am calm and cool but at the same time .....i can treat you the way you approach..... grin take ya time ooooo. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:29pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
By domestic league, I meant their performances at their respective domestic league -- Austria and Israel.
But Kayode was invited before now. Did he get invited immediately? No!.. UEFA champions league qualification just happened. I'm sure about Nwakaeme, who just proved his mettle at the UEFA league qualification. He performed. He scored breathtaking goals. That cannot be ignored. I didn't watch Kayode at the Europa league. Can you tell us how he performed.


Kayode was not invited because according to Rohr, he has hardly played in pre season, meaning his fitness was not yet there.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:34pm On Aug 26, 2017
If he was really impressed with Kayode he would have got a recall. Other players fitness were also in question. I don't think the coach will take much of his time explaining every of his decisions. I believe he just gave quick answers. There are other factors he considered especially for this Cameroon match up. I remember him saying the opponents is also one factor he considers in selection.

tbaba1234:


Kayode was not invited because according to Rohr, he has hardly played in pre season, meaning his fitness was not yet there.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:38pm On Aug 26, 2017
I'm sure I posted my response more than once.. Take your time to follow discussions. Anyone who thinks otherwise should state facts, and I will concede. We don't win money from winning arguments here.

forgiveness:


hahahhhahhhahha! I no talk am say he will not tell how Nwakaeme has played at the higher stage than Kayode? grin Na manner em come dey lecture now. Bhahahahahahaha! grin grin grin grin

Mister man, I am calm and cool but at the same time .....i can treat you the way you approach..... grin take ya time ooooo. grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:38pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
take note.. I said proved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode -- Champions League qualification. He did not just play at a higher stage. but proved his mettle as well. That's an advantage over Kayode. And that is a fact.

Playing Champions league qualification games against Qarabag and Maribo is not any higher than Europa league.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 3:44pm On Aug 26, 2017
Humility017:

stop playing to the galary....just say you want more of your tribal men in the SE and we all will understand...as simple as that
you mean same awoniyi who is just finding his place now.....
even in that Belgium league....nacho is far ahead....very far.
Stop bringing tribe to everything. Can't you make your arguments and oppose him without using that word? Why are we like this in this country?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:45pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
I know say you sabi English o.. I never even use that word "better" since.. no be una they suspect foul play say Nwakaeme was invited, why not Kayode?. I only said Nwakaeme has proved his mettle at a higher stage considering UEFA Champions league qualification. If the stats prove me wrong, I will concede. But let's not forget many factors are also put into consideration in player selection.

I have never said nwakaeme is better, or vice versa. last last, dem go reach camp. It's either Rohr likes what he sees, or he don't.

Sorry for misquoting u by using word 'better' am not suspecting any fowl play over Nwakaeme invitation, Rohr ve said it that Kayode lack fitness coz he did not have much game during pre season which I quite agree

All I want is d result irrespective of player invited for d match,have been watching d game for long,so I always watch it with relaxed mind but nevertheless d best should be called to national team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 3:47pm On Aug 26, 2017
forgiveness:


hahahhhahhhahha! I no talk am say he will not tell how Nwakaeme has played at the higher stage than Kayode? grin Na manner em come dey lecture now. Bhahahahahahaha! grin grin grin grin

Mister man, I am calm and cool but at the same time .....i can treat you the way you approach..... grin take ya time ooooo. grin

common sense should teach u that rohr...know these guys better than you know them....
he has been with kayode even watch him play and train....he knows his prowess and what is at stake in these all important match....

I once talked about kayode exclusion but later come to reason....it well especially after watching nwakeme match highlights.
he is not a bad player after all.....

so relax..and let us not turn these thread to something else....because i guess u won't like it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:49pm On Aug 26, 2017
Tammy Abraham has scored.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:49pm On Aug 26, 2017
Best is subjective. E.g Kingsley Eduwo is the "best" striker in our CHAN team -- but he is not the highest goal scorer in the NPFL. The coach knows what he is looking for. Is he always righ? No. But he cant listen to everyone. That's why he is the coach. He will pick HIS best.

Kog45:
Sorry for misquoting u by using word 'better' am not suspecting any fowl play over Nwakaeme invitation, Rohr ve said it that Kayode lack fitness coz he did not have much game during pre season which I quite agree

All I want is d result irrespective of player invited for d match,have been watching d game for long,so I always watch it with relaxed mind but nevertheless d best should be called to national team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:51pm On Aug 26, 2017
Tammy Abraham has opened his account
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndreTAyodeji(m): 3:52pm On Aug 26, 2017
Joebie:
take note.. I said proved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode -- Champions League qualification. He did not just play at a higher stage. but proved his mettle as well. That's an advantage over Kayode. And that is a fact.

Did you know that Kayode played Europa last season and even scored two(2) goals against Roma which has top quality defenders like Rudiger and Manolas?And i am sure you know Roma is a far better opponent than Maribor whom Nwaekeme was playing against in the champions league qualifiers?.So Maribor is the higher stage that Nwaekeme is playing?. You see i wont mind even if Nwaekeme is played ahead of Ighalo against Cameroon because he is a team player in addition to him being physical which will allow Nacho to thrive as an SS or AM but you trying to Belittle or Rubbish Kayode because Nwaekeme is one of your favourites is not acceptable and it is sentimental.

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