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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:45pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
That's my point.. still waiting for stats and reasons.. if he can't supply those, will he concede? If not, it's sentimental TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:47pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joebie: when I said Onyekuru should be there, it was based entirely on my own perception. in fact sef, I never called for the inclusion of Onyekuru but Kayode remember? and if you ask me from today till tomorrow I will still say that both deserve that spot more than Moses Simon 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:49pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Based on current stats, I agree.. But don't forget that Rohr has been seeing Moses Simon in camp. Do you think he just loves the boy for not reason? Mickael2: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:49pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
joseph1013: ever since Ola Aina came into the picture, has he mentioned Ebuehi ever since? food for thought 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:51pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joebie: yes, he may have his reasons. my point us based entirely on potential output. I'd rather have Onyekuru one on one against the goalkeeper, maybe the coach doesn't like a winger that doesn't provide width because Onyekuru likes to cut in, that's for the coach, like I said my assertions were made based solely on my own perceptions |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:54pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
No doubt I agree with you. Have you seen Kingsley Eduwo play? Odey and Eduwo, who do you prefer? I watched Mickael2: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 4:55pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
#FINIDIforUNDER17 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Petrobros: 4:59pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Mickael2: His mission here is majorly to cry against Igbo dominance. He only sees the call for Onyekuru ahead of Simon as a tribal thing. That guy's tribalism has no chill. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:00pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
As much as I would have liked Manu Garba to continue, Finidi is very much qualified. Would have preferred him for U20 though. maidaboi: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 5:01pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
maidaboi:has it been confirmed? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:01pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joebie: I would definitely prefer Odey. I have watched his matches a little bit more so I may be biased towards that corner, that's why I don't really talk about the CHAN, I hardly followed then. do you agree with the coach though? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 5:08pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Mickael2:Ah...as I assumed, he shot himself in the foot. Herein the change in the goalpost when they are forced to discuss intelligibly. You first said he is against anything Igbo, yet when quizzed about the Igbos he had been on the line for, you quickly change to,"he doesn't mention Ebuehi again". If changing to Aina from Ebuehi makes him a Yoruba tribalistic, does changing from Shehu to Ebuehi make him Igbo tribalistic? Are you following my argument? Are you unconsciously alluding to your lack of basic knowledge of the rules of an argument, one of which is, cover your base. But again, what if he now prefers Aina? Is Aina not better than Ebuehi in that position? Do reports from the Eagles camp not tell us he is rated highly? Do we not have access to the web where we watch the games of the two of them, and see for ourselves that Aina looks the one better suited for the position? You see, you offer nothing concrete. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:10pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Well they are both in the CHAN team. But from what I saw, Eduwo is better. I remember one of the officials feeling vindicated as regards Eduwo's inclusion after that match against Benin. Eduwo is a sure starter in that CHAN team. So we can't go by highest goals in the domestic league ALONE. Eduwo is a polished forward, he plays like he's had experience in Europe. Mind you, he also scored in the following NPFL game, immediately after that CHAN game -- just like Rabiu Alli did. Mickael2: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:15pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Mickael2: see reasoning. 'he has always been against Igbos' *eyes opened while scratching head* I am confused to be candid. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:18pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
bossto:He was substituted at 89 minutes according to livescore commentaries. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:19pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
it's one thing to make a point. How you make the point also matters. It's one thing to defend a specific player. How you defend the player also matters. It's the emotion people put in to defend a player that can easily reveal their tribe. Else why talk about it like your life depends on it? It's similar to the kind of discussion we have when we go political.. State that stats/reasons, and let's continue a healthy discussion -- that way it wouldn't seem sentimental. joseph1013: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:20pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Petrobros: You are I.......! Stop lying. Tell us why Onyekuru is better than Simon Moses with facts? Is Simon Moses Yoruba too? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:25pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Mickael2: So, why crucify mine? another confusion. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 5:25pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joebie: He's clearly passionate when he picks a player to defend. I see nothing wrong in it. I see no reason to label him for that especially when we can call up players he has done so for across board. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Petrobros: 5:29pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
forgiveness: I would chose Simon Moses ahead of Onyekuru. Like I said I know you seeing it more from the tribal angle. His name is Simon Ajala Moses. As I said even if he is not Yoruba what you are fighting is Igbo dominance. Any other tribe but Igbo will do for you. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:29pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joebie: Hahahahahah! Based on 'past glory theory' by some people na.... Awoniyi is better than Iheanacho. Bhuuuhahaha! Sorry, I don't have facts for sarcastic comments. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:34pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Petrobros: Stop proclaiming falsehood as facts mr man. It portrays you as a mere babbler, sorry to say, else provide fact that suggests otherwise. Mr anything Igbo will do. Bhuuuhahaha! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 5:35pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
As I read through the recent posts on this thread, I could not help but shake my head due to the various accusations and counter accusations on this thread. The same syndrome is affecting both sides. People like Joebie and TheGoodJoe have been able to challenge forgiveness without resorting to name calling. One of the signs of intellectual laziness and the greatest hurdle to development we as a people have always faced is that people cannot disagree without resorting to name calling - as if tagging them makes the issues raised to disappear. It is the case that once a person cannot fathom the reason why someone else holds a different opinion, they find easy labels to use to tag them, thinking that somehow de-legitimizes their point of view. The common labels I have come to see used over the years are tribalism and bribery. What accusation is made depends on whether the parties involved are from the same ethnic background. If this is the case, the former accusation is made, if otherwise then the later is used 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 5:35pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
@forgiveness, it is unfortunate that the lens through which you view matters is this jaundiced. Does this make you a “tribalist”? I say No? Does this keep you from having a constructive argument? I think so. If Rohr was an Igbo man, you would have accused him of tribalism. If he was a Yoruba man, tribalism wouldn’t fit the tag, hence the appropriate label will be that his selections are for pecuniary gains. Now that Rohr is not a Nigerian and it is clear that he is not here for the money, you needed to find another label to tag him. This approach to explaining other people’s actions which are at odds with your world view will keep you from seeing the best in other people and further help you assess and reshape your own thinking. To the hammer, every problem seems like a nail. I have learnt to ignore many of your accusations, at the same time learning from you as well. One thing you fail to realize is that the human heart has reasons that reason cannot comprehend and it has nothing to do with tribalism. The yorubas will say “Differences in human preference is the reason why two brothers would not desire the same woman”. As someone who claims to throw facts around, please desist from making strong accusations without verifiable proof. And by proof, I mean things you are sure of and not hearsay |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Petrobros: 5:40pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
tglobal: And who else has been the one labeling the NFF and Coaches of Tribalism and bribery? And in addition cultism? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:41pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Finidi Willing To Coach The U17s For Free Finidi George has told Nigeria Federation Federation officials that he was prepared to coach the national Under-17 team for free if given the chance. Finidi was one of the 59 shortlisted coaches interviewed by the NFF technical committee for vacant national teams’ posts. “Finidi has told NFF officials he is willing to coach the U17s for free,” SCORENigeria quoted an official of the NFF. “He has already told the technical committee he is not disturbed about the poor finances of the NFF which may cause salaries to be delayed for several months. “He said he is only driven to give something back to the country that made him and he believes he can impact what he has learnt working with age-group teams in Mallorca to make a difference with the country’s cadet team.” Finidi ruled the Eagles right wing and Emmanuel Amuneke took care of the left wing during the country’s Golden Era. Amuneke has since set a mark with the U17s – he won the FIFA U17 World Cup in Chile two years ago after he was assistant coach to the team who won the same competition in Abu Dhabi in 2013. http://www.naijamouthed.ng/forum/entertainment/sports/14328-finidi-offers-to-coach-golden-eaglets-for-free 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:41pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:ok, so you mean he may have feigned another injury if Nigeria was to play a friendly game and other related “small stage” games |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 5:42pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Petrobros: I have addressed this above |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:44pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
“He has already told the technical committee he is not disturbed about the poor finances of the NFF which may cause salaries to be delayed for several months. “He said he is only driven to give something back to the country that made him and he believes he can impact what he has learnt working with age-group teams in Mallorca to make a difference with the country’s cadet team.” The amount of Knowledge Finidi George has from the well-structured football development system will definitely make a major impact in the young boys he will train. I hope the NFF is willing to work with the Nigerian footballing legend and later give him a chance to play a big part in the administrative role of the NFF. #FinidiGeorgeForU17 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:45pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
blueto: I did not say!! It is talk I talked. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:46pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
blueto: On a serious note, I do not trust that Italian coach at Chelsea. What is that his name again? Conte. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 5:47pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
To everyone else, please get off your high horses and stop pretending that the same syndrome doesn’t afflict you. We are witnesses of how others have accused fellow forumites of what they are not simply because they disagree. Examples of this abound and include the following 1. Criticize KC – Tag him a Kelechi hater (if they are not igbo, use the tribalist tag) 2. Criticize Awoniyi, Success and Manu crew – You hate Nigeria 3. Criticize the local league – You hate the local league 4. Measure Nigerian player using global standards – You are not patriotic 5. Pep doesn’t start KC and other black players - Pep is a racist There is beauty in diversity of thought and opinion and we should celebrate that. I cringed the other day when komekn was accused of being unpatriotic simply because he rates Nigerian players like any non-Nigerian would. Same way politicians in power label the opposition 2 Likes |
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