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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:44pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
It seems we are heading for a stalemate. Esiti, Simon and Onyekuru are still on. Gent 0-0 Anderlecht 87 minutes played |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Petrobros: 6:48pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
forgiveness: It started with you accusing the Super Eagles crew of nepotism and corruption. You particularly openly accused Alloy Agu of favoring Ezenwa and Akpeyi , who are his tribesmen. icon4s pointed at Onigbe's case in reference or would I say In response to your nepotism shout. No be so? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bossto(m): 6:49pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
blueto:Alright then! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:51pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
I'm on top of this now. Aina missing! 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 6:54pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Petrobros: @Petrobas, you seem so fixated in labeling me a defender of forgiveness that you completely missed the post below where I called him out. @forgiveness, it is unfortunate that the lens through which you view matters is this jaundiced. Does this make you a “tribalist”? I say No? Does this keep you from having a constructive argument? I think so. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:56pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Chidiebere Nwakali made Whoscored's best XI in Norway last week. 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:57pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Mickael2: You said 4 goals and 5 assists are not good enough for a winger, then I asked you, what role or wing did Simon Moses played last season, but until now all I have received from you is perpetual silence. Meaning, you don't know what you are fighting for or saying. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:02pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
joseph1013:i am SK sorry that I have to spell things out to grown adults. Like I said, I have accused komekn of being a borough fans before, restatig that to make you feel happy is an effort in futility, same as bringing in 'logic' to counter anything forgiveness said You think logic works with forgiveness? Oga, if you no like wetin I talk, you sef wakapass. Forgiveness is tribalistic, if you like ignore because no be your people e dey drag, the rest of us know what we know 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 7:02pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joebie: I couldn't agree more, Joebie. I am also waiting for the accusation that will be made against the new goalkeeper trainer if Akpeyi starts the next match, considering that the "tribalism" tag can will not exactly fit 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:04pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
lol. What tribe is Akpeyi? He didn't just get his first invite. I'm sure other goal keeper coaches have favored him in the past. So where does tribalism come in? tglobal: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afam4eva(m): 7:04pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joebie:Norway? Chai, out footballers don suffer. How is it that a country of almost 180 million heads cannot produce a dozen players who play for elite clubs (Barcelona, Real Madrid, Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Bayern Munchen, PSG, AC Milan, Inter, Juventus, ROMA). Something is definitely wrong somewhere. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:09pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joebie: Impressive. I hope the young man keeps working hard to stay at the top of his game. I hope he secures a move to a German, Italian or Spanish side and end this Manchester City deal. It is time for the young man to move ahead with his career. If no work permit from England, why keep waiting. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lordabas: 7:11pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joel obi just scored the 3rd goal for torino. Needs to get back in the super eagles squad asap. Hes fit and on form 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:12pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Lordabas: I agree. The young man has my vote. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:15pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
The real question is how is it that a country of over 180 million that are football crazy can't have a domestic league with a good standard? Modified. So you really think that any league besides those big names are whack? Afam4eva: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:16pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joebie: If you claim there's no nepotism in the National team, you can ask Amokachi. He was there and confessed oh ha! In this light, at least drew my postulations and assertions to state my comments,and besides NFF is public office, therefore not immune or exempted from public criticism. However, it's vividly clear that chance and opportunity happens to those in the National team. It's not necessary because they are the best talent in the whole Nigeria. This is because we can see when see many players doing exceptional well in Europe despite been ignored by the National team selector. In short, they doing better than all we raised so far. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:17pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
i'm bewildered! Let me see who can come to your defense now.. forgiveness: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:17pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
forgiveness: he was the attacking midfielder, which makes it worse. at least for a winger playing in a 4-5-1 you can argue that he stays too far away from the goal to actually score goals like Samuel Kalu, but this is an AMF with only 5 assists all season long. Even Iwobi, Aluko etc etc made more impact than he did, so your point is? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 7:18pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Come give us live updates on players arrival and camping @Sir Tbaba, Joebie. Abeg who don see Lakesidepapa? e don tey I see him. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afam4eva(m): 7:20pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joebie:I have not said any of those other leagues are and the issue about our domestic league is a topic for another day. The pint remains that our football is not growing as this should reflect in our players ability to get spots in big teams in europe. Smaller countries like Cote diviore, Ghana, Cameroon and Senegal are making it big in europe. Why should ours be different? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:24pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Our players will go anywhere to leave the country. What does that tell you? Besides those countries you mentioned also have players in the so called inferior leagues in Europe. Let me add that Nwakali is a Man City player Afam4eva: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:25pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Humility017: To make an assumption based on presumption is a recipe for continous mistakes. You cannot assume that Rohr know them better than anybody else. Even if he has seen him in training close up,doesn't make him final authority on Kayode. So many coaches have made big huge mistakes about players who have been close up and personal with them. Particularly a coach that can invite a player who has essentially only played youth football recovering from injury straight to the national team over and above proven and tested players. Cohen Bramall 7 months ago was playing non league football. Spent 3/4 weeks on trial at Sheffield Wednesday then Crewe, Crystal palace, and even lowly Keele Town. Goes to Arsenal on trial on the second day Arsene Wenger, signs him. Where the other coaches blind some who were even with UEFA A badges. I'm trying to highlight that some coaches can be blind. Somehow he Kayode was not blind to Pep Guardiola but is blind to Rohr who has decided to bring in Aaron Samuel over Kayode. I am not able to say too much because I really don't know much about Aaron Samuel. Statistically speaking I would say Kayode is on a different level. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 7:30pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
forgiveness: @forgiveness, always blowing things out of proportion to support your narrative. First of all, Amokachi's claim was that people paid cash to play. That is not nepotism. On "chance and opportunity happening to those in the National team", there is no occupation or nation in the world where this is not the case. Even in the corporate world in the most advanced countries, opportunity will have to be seized and not necessarily by the best people. The question to ask is "are they are good enough"?. David villa has been invited back to the Spanish national team. Are there no better strikers in the whole of spain? is that also Nepotism? Mutiu Adepoju made the 2002 world cup team list. What did he do to merit that place? It suits you to always highlight the isolated negatives to justify your view point. What you end up doing is poisoning people's minds. You are doing more to stoke the fire of tribalism than those you are accusing 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:32pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
komekn:I get you bro... but you see....Aaron Samuel...has a very antecedent on the colours of the SE I remember I was one of those that voiced displeasure over keshi calling him up then...but then and after he gave a good account of himself.... he is someone I believe probably one of the coaching staff or any of the technical committee member might have talked about him to rohr let's keep fingers crossed....the truth is...should Cameroon have someone like Aaron...playing fr CSKA he will definitely get to play these match |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:35pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Right. But Rohr's authority is final authority as long as he is the coach.. Whether he is right or wrong will reflect on the team's performances. If he likes what he sees in camp, then so be it. We don't know his playing philosophy or what he is looking for. I agree that Kayode is better statistically. I don't know what necessitated Aaron's invitation. But i'm tempted to think that different opponents sometimes calls for different approach based on what Rohr himself said in the past. Rohr has his own playing philosophy. it's either the philosophy fails him, or makes him succeed. komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:37pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
gbam! tglobal: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:40pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Joel Obi with a man of the match performance. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:40pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
tglobal: BIG THANK YOU |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:43pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
I've always said stats don't like. Look at Moses Simon's stats below for All competition and Jupiler league alone. I will include the link so you will be so sure it's actually Simon's stats from last season: now talk true. does that stat support your position or not? All competitions: https://www.transfermarkt.com/moses-simon/leistungsdaten/spieler/274862/plus/0?saison=2016 Jupiler league alone: https://www.transfermarkt.com/moses-simon/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/274862/saison/2016/wettbewerb/BE1/verein/157 Mickael2:
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:46pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Onyekuru's All competition: https://www.transfermarkt.com/henry-onyekuru/leistungsdaten/spieler/380415/plus/0?saison=2016
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Petrobros: 7:48pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
tglobal: If you don't see any tribal connotations in him accusing the NFF, Rohr and his crew of favoring a section of the country then you are not being fair with your assessment of the case. Forgiveness is my very good pally here. He knows it. There are occasions where I go all out to stand in his defense especially when on the receiving side of insults. I remember how I practically persuaded safarigirl to apologize to him after some harsh exchange of words. Of which she did (something she rarely does). As I said before someone cannot throw accusation fingers at your race or ethnic group and you are expected not to react. We are not going about this case the right way. I am not expecting any apologies from him for his comments but don't also expect everyone here to just swallow it and act as though nothing was said. Please be fair on this issue. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:48pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
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