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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:34pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
TayserMahiri: The overwhelming majority of Nigerians don't know anything about those classifications because it traditionally doesn't matter to us. Our divisions are seen in ethno-linguistic terms rather than racial classifications. Here, a Yoruba or Igbo or Ijaw or Efik person could easily pass for the other in physical appearance. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 9:35pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 9:47pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
freshest4live: The Kenyan State does not dialogue, they crush such agitators without mercy. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:15am On Aug 28, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:His support for democracy is selfish. He wants to replicate the current monopoly of looting and tribal superiority in my opinion. I watched his interview after 2007 on CNN when the international media was rethinking the role of democracy in Africa, seeing that parties here are tribal as opposed to ideological. He defended democracy like he was being paid to. And he is being paid to defend democracy. Same with every other opposition leader in Africa. The payment stops when you stop singing democracy. All of them are on CIA payroll. But cessation is a step in the right direction. Like I said, our democracy is based on our tribes. You vote for your tribes man and the tribe with the numbers wins. Its most fair replacement is a system that acknowledges tribal realities and makes it its basis. Tribal as representation at the national level and a semi autonomy of ethnic groups at the ground. All communities have their precolonial leadership structures so democracy is not the Alpha and Omega of politics. We obviously cannot trust one tribe to look out for the interests of the rest. Whether that tribe is Kikuyu or Luo. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:18am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:Am not there but I can differentiate some of your tribes. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:45am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi: But the classifications are an academic exercise not a matter of choice. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:15am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Muafrika2: Selfish? Democracy has a role to play in Africa for one main reason: Its capacity to marginalize objectors. Trust me the last thing you want is to silence objectors by force. The only reason he defended democracy at that time is because he had not tasted its effects on him. Now that its clear that it can indeed be brutal, he definitely would want a way out. Now, on this secession issue NASA guys are singing, you do realize that secession must be supported by a simple majority at a referendum in which at least 20 per cent of registered voters in each of at least 24 counties must participate (Article 255(2))? That referendum would be lost by an overwhelming majority. Not to mention we would have to go back to the same excuses of rigging! You would be very surprised that the call for secession is just poetic, very unpopular. Only Luos would vote for it. And to be honest it would be crashed like MRC (why Joho & Mombasa ppl are not talking secession), with a lot of brutality that most Kenyans would rather not try. Are you yourself willing to face the state ? I think the opposition needs to roll up its sleeves and come up with a winning formular. They do so much outdated politics, the two men in Jubilee outsmart them on almost everything. I want you to observe something from this petition. If NASA loses, the court will be wrong. If Jubilee loses, the court will be right. WTH? And how will your secession work when the map looks like this in favor of both UK and Tinga? Will Rao be flying from the west over the Central Republic to perform duties in the East? Cos thats the only map you can talk about, not the nonsense I've seen on social media.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:29am On Aug 28, 2017 |
TayserMahiri: I haven't said otherwise. Simply pointed out why it has little value in our consciousness. East Africans are a little obsessed with racial classifications. Horners in particular are the worst. It doesn't really register among West Africans. Our strong divisions are expressed more in ethno-linguistic terms. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:34am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Muafrika2: Physically? I doubt it. Other than perhaps Fulanis, the last migrant group to what is today called Nigeria, who look pretty distinct from Hausas for example, most Nigerian tribes to an untrained eye could easily pass for the other. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:39am On Aug 28, 2017 |
TayserMahiri: Msee Nasa got a new map.... So the central republic will miss turkana oil fields and will be a landlocked country 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:41am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:Ican... igbo----Light skinned Yoruba---Dark skinned Hausa----Look like Somali some how |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:46am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi: Bro, the classifications are language based not based on looks! People are not called Nilotes, Cushites, Semites or BAntu because they look a certain way. They are grouped together because they have similar languages, which is construed to imply they have common origins. Looks come after the fact. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:49am On Aug 28, 2017 |
mtis: NASA wana mchezo sana. So if people lose elections they demand freedom We unaonaje hii maneno |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PROVERBZ(m): 11:54am On Aug 28, 2017 |
mtis:I am Igbo and dark skinned my friend is Yoruba and extremely light skinned no bleaching Plus it is only poor Hausa people that look skinny like Somali guyz |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:56am On Aug 28, 2017 |
mtis: Igbos being light-skinned is a myth. I would know because I'm Igbo. The majority of Igbos are dark-skinned. There are slightly more light-skinned Igbos than Yorubas, but it's not by much. Igbos, Yorubas and all Southern groups could easily pass for each other. Hausas are a typical Niger-Congo group. They don't look like Somalis. Perhaps, you meant the Fulanis. Though over several decades, there's a lot of inter-marrying between Fulanis and Hausas which have somewhat blurred the lines. Hence, they're basically called Hausa-Fulanis these days. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 12:03pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
TayserMahiri: Well yes, it is true the looks are incidental to language classifications. But when Somalis are rambling about their distinctness to those they call Bantus, what they really have in mind is they look different. Such linguistic classifications can be a bit tricky in Nigeria. Hausas foe example one spoke a Nilo-Saharan language (which suggests a historical Nilotic connection), but eventually adopted a Chadian Afro-Asiatic language. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:11pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi: That makes sense... With that kind of mix there is no point of complicating matters even further. Let them remain simply as Hausas |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:34pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:Kupoteza pesa na time...I still believe there are a clique of dudes who are just pushing this for their own selfish benefits e.g lawyers ,politicians...I watched Ndii video an was really really amazed by some reasoning of some of this activists...Ati tutaipata through bullet...hakuna msee anatishwa hii round..If ya got a gun then i'll also buy mine.. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:36pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
PROVERBZ:That why i love this thread..ya got to learn new stuff every day .. About somali thats another debate.. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:39pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:Sorry i think i meant Fulani....but serious i though igbos are light skinned...or may be its the level (degree ) am referring to |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:56pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
mtis: I really cant wait for anyone who tries to push secession after the new govt is sworn in. They should take a cue from Hamisi Mwamnuadzi. Its akin to signing a death sentence. I think Kiraithe already put it clear. Anyone who wants secession is free to leave the country and go to Somalia. Ndii himself cannot take a bullet for anybody. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:56pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
Muafrika2:problem ya Kenya ni coz ya beef btw Kikuyus na Luos...am not a tribalist (am a exotic mixture of many ) but serious hizi tribes lazima waache upuzi..they should take their beef far far away... hama tuwakatie republic zao |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:58pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:Ati Ndii anasema he doesnt fear ...the kaguy is crazy..effects of weed |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:08pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:Checked this thread: Igbos In Diaspora Build Mud Houses With Whites To Exhibit Culture https://www.nairaland.com/4016086/igbos-diaspora-build-mud-houses i do agree with you
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:08pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
mtis: You know, with the way Kisumu has been perpetually in the opposition, I was shocked to see how developed the city is. Maybe this opposition thing pays too. It seems the system only favours the extreme. The peaceful are forgotten. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:11pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
Obi1kenobi:For years I thought all Africans south of the sahara were Bantu.I think the difference in most cases are so blur the categorisation can be confusing.The fulanis are nilotic while other west Africans are mainly NigerCongo based on their languages. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:14pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
TayserMahiri:Perhaps well need to go around the top too . The project will have more supporters with inclusion of the Shiftas |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:14pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
Muafrika2:Kisumu is a shadow of itself..with all the engineers,professors, scientists ,quantum theorists,molecular stuff thing just a few , Kisumu should the true silicon valley of Africa...Lakini wasee kazi yao ni kufuka boda ..majuu imekua ndio kwao |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:21pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
obaaderemi:i didnt know Fulanis are Nilotes...In kenya the nilotes are basically dark ..those are the guys you see winning gold medals for us ,guys playing football,rugby,cricket so basically all the sporty thing happening in Kenya..but intermarriage has changed alot of late |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:22pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
mtis:So true. The love of anything unAfrican. They are like Nigerians who I heard import pizza from london |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Amberon11: 1:24pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
Port Harcourt is crap? Enugu and Calabar are ahead of PH in what fantasy dream world? NairobiWalker: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:38pm On Aug 28, 2017 |
Muafrika2: Lol, if you join hands with shiftas you'll need to prepare for dispatchment to your maker 99 % of kenyans would oppose any alliance with somali separatists, who are few anyway. That whole section of Somalis is pro Uhuru. Just look elsewhere |
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