forgiveness:


My humble formation and line up.


............................... Alampasu


Shehu............ Troost............. Leon.......... Echiejile


................. Onazi............. Ogu...........


.......................... Mikel.......


.... Victor............. .. Ighalo............. Etebor.....

I am making the presumption of a 4-3-3.

In that regard I would be looking for Ola Aina to recreate the club and personal understanding that he has with Victor Moses. Therefore Shehu does not start for me.

I am concerned about the mobility of Ogu in a fast paced match. Ogu has good composure and I think a better passing range than Ndidi. But Ndidi is more Mobil, has better recovery if the ball is lost, can turn defence into attack a lot quicker than Ogu. So I would drop Ogu and choose Ndidi, because pace is going to be an issue in this match.

Add to that Mikel has zero pace and will not backtrack to help the defence effectively enough for me. But in reality we need Mikel to play offensive and open up Cameroon. Ndidi covering for him enables us to be more offensive through Mikel picking out the right passes and through balls.

Otherwise I can't disagree with much else considering players invited.

junnyjake:
I had to sit out this argument with forgiveness because I think it's uncalled for.

I saw right through the post causing the flaring tempers. The gentleman was just being sarcastic for God's sake. I remember pointing this out to either joebie or humility017.

Everyone here reacted the way they did because they've conditioned their minds to see forgiveness as tribalistic, though I've noticed some tribal undertunes laced in between his comments sometimes, I disagree with him under such instances, because whenever I'm here I rid myself off any form of ethnocentrism, rather I look at meritocracy.

I agree with him as regards Kayode non-inclusion and rorh's reason for it. It was ridiculous.

If you like you can go ahead to call me his ally, but truth is I admire his energy on this thread, he rarely takes shi.t personal and would laugh off things that would originally upset people out there.

We all know who he is, what he stands for and if we continue to engage and attack him everytime he comes in here, why's then would we have left of this wonderful thread? Let's learn to accommodate each other and their ideas, no matter how unconventional it might sound.

we acknowledge your solidarity post....it's coming late sha.

And Rohr's job is to pick who he thinks will best execute his matchday plan, not to pick who beer parlour and armchair analysts think is best. So, whether you are content with the explanation or not, that's irrelevant. He doesn't even owe anyone an explanation to begin with, we should be glad he bothered

Abeg, does anyone have pictures of players in camp?

Icon79:
You ain't never lied, my brother. Tell me what value a headless chicken like Oxlade Chamberlain is gonna add to Chelsea?


O pari

He is not worth up to 1/5 of that amount paid on his head.

Any way thanks to Chelsea.

Good riddance.

joseph1013:
Why Ogu and Onazi instead of Ndidi?

I don't think it's wise for me or the coach to still play Ndidi and Onazi after both flopped against Senegal and South Africa when they played together

Secondly, I need a DM and a natural CMF in the midfield with experience, that is why I prefer Onazi and Ogu.

Thirdly, I think both can control the midfield with the help of Mikel Obi no matter the jambody dem meet.

In short, these 3 players are required in my 4-3-3 formation or 4-2-3-1 formation.

Ndidi will be my backup CB should incase our CBs fumbles. Surprised!

Because I don't trust Balogun and Troost, dem fit fumble.

Mikel Obi will play the freerole. I mean AMF .

OMANBALA1:


Firstly,I have always known Ezenwa is a better keeper because I followed him in the local league. He is the quickest and more intelligent out of the three invited. I never really cared for Akpeyi because of this air of jittery around him. And going by Ezenwa's excellent performance at the CHAN qualifier I believe he has the momentum.

Hate or love him ,Onazi is more experienced,very dependable and has proven himself more on super eagles shirt that the newbie,Ndidi. On this premise,I will start him ahead of Ndidi . In addition to that,Onazi excel when Mikel is present. P.S I will start Ogu ahead of Ndidi maybe because Ndidi rubbed me off the wrong against South Africa.

I forgot we have Ola Aina but I am not a big fan of English groomed players. Awaziem is a true Naija and gets it and the whole mentality. Shehu is sitting on a thin ice...Don't care much for him.

You want to start Awaziem at RB? No room for wild experiments in this game.

Remember what happened the last time we played Ndidi at RB?

It takes an experienced member of the team to switch positions like that. Like Omeruo playing RB against Algeria. Like also Shehu playing RB which is not his primary role (although he has played mostly RB for Nigeria than DM). Leon Balogun can also play RB. But not a newbie like Awaziem especially in a match of this calibre.

Plus I will pick Ndidi in the DM role over Onazi.
With Iwobi out I would move Etebo to LWF and play an Ndidi - Onazi (CM) midfield pair.

People clamouring for Mikel at CM, we need his creativity more in the AM position.
To unlock a stubborn defense you need very creative players in the AM/ Wing positions and Mikel is the most creative amongst our Midfielders.

Talking about Ezenwa, where were you when he was being treated like a piece of trash here. At least some of us stood up for Akpeyi.

Naijaphobia:
Hey! Bros!!!! As if you new what was in my mind.
But come to think of it, don't you think Ezinwa would be a better choice considering the magnitude of this match?Aside your goal keeping choice I think your selection is spot on and on merit.

If you put Ezinwa for post just go buy recharge card to call doctor should incase you develop hypertension in the course of the game because he seems to be calamity waiting to happen.

He is not the best in the league presently. Abi I lie?

Akpeyi too no good for aerial balls. It is very glaring to the blind.

ProfOrlando:
update, Ola Aina is in abuja, I just saw he and his dad now at the airport.

Are you serious?

Thought they said he is not coming because he's yet to be cleared by FIFA.

Off to Uyo...

Petrobros:


Firstly, Alampasu is not our first choice goalie. So he is not expected to start.

Secondly, Ndidi. He is a sure starter.

Ighalo not likely to start, Iheanacho is our first choice striker.

I like where you placed Etebo. In the absence of Iwobi, Etobo moves to the Left. I see an Ndidi- Onazi midfield pairing.

Who is our first choice goalie?

Why is Ndidi a sure starter?

Didn't Rohr confessed that he is looking for a better CF instead of Iheanacho?

Why did he call 3 natural CF if he really considered Iheanacho as his first choice CF?

Onazi Ndidi pairing flopped big time against Senegal and South Africa. Why continue with a failed combo?

The transfer market is going crazy this season. He isn't the only one either!

Like I said on twitter, Dembele's transfer fee is a fraud that needs to be investigated. Think about the amount being mentioned on Coutinho!
Makes me to ask, where's the so called UEFA fair play rule?


O pari

Icon4s:


He is not worth up to 1/5 of that amount paid on his head.

Any way thanks to Chelsea.

Good riddance.

Icon79:
The transfer market is going crazy this season. He isn't the only one either!

Like I said on twitter, Dembele's transfer fee is a fraud that needs to be investigated. Think about the amount being mentioned on Coutinho!
Makes me to ask, where's the so called UEFA fair play rule?


O pari

The transfer market has really gone crazy my brother.

Some times I would just be pondering is it that value of players have gone astronomically high our the Pounds and Euros have lost value?

komekn:


I am making the presumption of a 4-3-3.

In that regard I would be looking for Ola Aina to recreate the club and personal understanding that he has with Victor Moses. Therefore Shehu does not start for me.

I am concerned about the mobility of Ogu in a fast paced match. Ogu has good composure and I think a better passing range than Ndidi. But Ndidi is more Mobil, has better recovery if the ball is lost, can turn defence into attack a lot quicker than Ogu. So I would drop Ogu and choose Ndidi, because pace is going to be an issue in this match.

Add to that Mikel has zero pace and will not backtrack to help the defence effectively enough for me. But in reality we need Mikel to play offensive and open up Cameroon. Ndidi covering for him enables us to be more offensive through Mikel picking out the right passes and through balls.

Otherwise I can't disagree with much else considering players invited.

The reason I dropped Ola was because I am yet to confirm his clearance from FIFA else I would have placed him there.

However, I really considered what you said regarding the lack of Mobility of Ogu and Mikel before i made that line up but after seeing how Onazi -Ndidi pairing flopped big time, I decided to go with experience that's Onazi,and dropped Ndidi.

If I have to drop Ogu then I will consider Agu play as the DM and Onazi play as the CMF.

forgiveness:



Who is our first choice goalie?

Why is Ndidi a sure starter?

Didn't Rohr confessed that he is looking for a better CF instead of Iheanacho?

Why did he call 3 natural CF if he really considered Iheanacho as his first choice CF?

Onazi Ndidi pairing flopped big time against Senegal and South Africa. Why continue with a failed combo?

Is that you don't know who our first choice goalie is for this encounter or you have refused to accept Daniel Akpeyi as our first choice? This is where the issue of preference and expectation comes in again.

You say Ndidi is not experienced yet you still prefer Agu in one of your other posts. Isn't that double standard?

Ndidi-Onazi midfield combo is the best with the current crop we have. You want us to go experimenting one kind combo and get our asses roasted? The coaches just need to pass down vital instructions especially to Ndidi to sit deep and shield the CB pair. While Onazi is free to roam.

That's fine.. make your contribution as regards your expectations.. People are free to air their opinions and preferences..As a matter of fact I like the suspense, when we say we will see who will start, or we will see who wins or predicted right. We can entertain that as long as we don't have comments here that are divisive. Well, talking of expectations, expectations are not always met.

Petrobros:


'Expectation' is more of the reality on ground.

For eg You may love Alampasu for what ever reason and then you 'prefer' him in goal but the reality is Akpeyi is first choice and so he is 'expected' to be in goal.

Sentiments most times beclouds 'preference'. I go with 'expectation' rather than 'preference'.

Joebie:
That's fine.. make your contribution as regards your expectations.. People are free to air their opinions and preferences..As a matter of fact I like the suspense, when we say we will see who will start, or we will see who wins or predicted right. We can entertain that as long as we don't have comments here that are divisive. Well, talking of expectations, expectations are not always met.

Yes expectations are not always met but more so are Preferences.

'Expectations' begets objectivity while reverse is the case for 'preference'.

Icon4s:


You want to start Awaziem at RB? No room for wild experiments in this game.

Remember what happened the last time we played Ndidi at RB?

It takes an experienced member of the team to switch positions like that. Like Omeruo playing RB against Algeria. Like also Shehu playing RB which is not his primary role (although he has played mostly RB for Nigeria than DM). Leon Balogun can also play RB. But not a newbie like Awaziem especially in a match of this calibre.

Plus I will pick Ndidi in the DM role over Onazi.
With Iwobi out I would move Etebo to LWF and play an Ndidi - Onazi (CM) midfield pair.

People clamouring for Mikel at CM, we need his creativity more in the AM position.
To unlock a stubborn defense you need very creative players in the AM/ Wing positions and Mikel is the most creative amongst our Midfielders.

Talking about Ezenwa, where were you when he was being treated like a piece of trash here. At least some of us stood up for Akpeyi.

yeah I was among those...who never wanted ezenwa and akpeyi near the eagles.....for reason that ezenwa wasn't the best in the domestic league....

but his performance against Benin made me....have a rethink...

at least he won't do another agbim on us....

for now....I think he is ahead...he should start If rohr deem it to be...


for your midfield pair...

you're right...onazi and ndidi will offer the much needed pace in these kind of match...
and etebo playing as winger wit V Moses gonna be deadly....


I think I like that....had it been Aina have been cleared by FIFA ....I don't mind him playing RB
he has a very good passing accuracy and ball control is top notch....

Alampasu however is untested and may not be trusted due to his lack of exposure both at international level and club side. Emmanuel Daniel would have been my preferred choice in that department but Rohr's decision must be respected.

As per Akpeyi, me no wan get BP and i would agree with you on that but Ezinwa as you have said may actually not be calamity in waiting. Ezinwa may be younger than Akpeyi but has lots of experience.If am right, Ideye,Elderson and Ezinwa are of U20 class of 2007.The guy just needs us to encourage him considering his superlative outing during the CHAN qualifiers. Adeboye Onigbinde-like coaches would have thrown Akpeyi into the waste bin

forgiveness:


If you put Ezinwa for post just go buy recharge card to call doctor should incase you develop hypertension in the course of the game because he seems to be calamity waiting to happen. and likely settle for an unknown entity which on the short run impatient Nigerians may frown at but on the long run super eagles will be good for it.

I still believe in order of quality, Ezinwa,Alampasu and Akpeyi should be ranked accordingly.

I wished Emmanuel Daniel was readily available we won't be deliberating on who should man the goal post cos he is a class and miles ahead. Olympic qualifiers and games proved this right.

He is not the best in the league presently. Abi I lie?

Akpeyi too no good for aerial balls. It is very glaring to the blind.

Icon4s:


You want to start Awaziem at RB? No room for wild experiments in this game.

Remember what happened the last time we played Ndidi at RB?

It takes an experienced member of the team to switch positions like that. Like Omeruo playing RB against Algeria. Like also Shehu playing RB which is not his primary role (although he has played mostly RB for Nigeria than DM). Leon Balogun can also play RB. But not a newbie like Awaziem especially in a match of this calibre.

Plus I will pick Ndidi in the DM role over Onazi.
With Iwobi out I would move Etebo to LWF and play an Ndidi - Onazi (CM) midfield pair.

People clamouring for Mikel at CM, we need his creativity more in the AM position.
To unlock a stubborn defense you need very creative players in the AM/ Wing positions and Mikel is the most creative amongst our Midfielders.

Talking about Ezenwa, where were you when he was being treated like a piece of trash here. At least some of us stood up for Akpeyi.

Playing Awaziem at RB is not as risky as starting him at CB, because you can accommodate some risk at RB but same can't be said for CB who is mostly the last man. Awaziem can't do the job,all he need it confidence. Right now ,Omeruo is not on the list and Shehu is not one of my favourite player....Dude bores me to sleep. Ndidi is not a natural defender ,henceforth,you can't compare him to a natural defender like Awaziem.

I play from the defensive midfield position and spread passes satisfactorily and do the combative defensive midfield job BUT within myself I know I am a natural full back.

Though I don't have any problem playing Mikel in the AM but the job cant be left for him alone because he is not the most creative. We need Iheanacho there for crisp and quick decision making.

Nwanne, how can you forget so soon. I have always stood in defense of Ezenwa because I know his capabilities. I believe in him...Never being a fan of Akpeyi.

Petrobros:


Is that you don't know who our first choice goalie is for this encounter or you have refused to accept Daniel Akpeyi as our first choice? This is where the issue of preference and expectation comes in again.

You say Ndidi is not experienced yet you still prefer Agu in one of your other posts. Isn't that double standard?

Ndidi-Onazi midfield combo is the best with the current crop we have. You want us to go experimenting one kind combo and get our asses roasted? The coaches just need to pass down vital instructions especially to Ndidi to sit deep and shield the CB pair. While Onazi is free to roam.

Who dash Akpeyi first choice?

The fact that he was never considered to be called many times mean he has never been considered a super eagles material. Fact!

Take note that Akpeyi has only played one competitive match under Rohr, so expect changes.

Na who say Ndidi no get experience?

However, at the Super Eagle level both Ndidi and Agu are in the same category.Gbam!

Humility017:


yeah I was among those...who never wanted ezenwa and akpeyi near the eagles.....for reason that ezenwa wasn't the best in the domestic league....

but his performance against Benin made me....have a rethink...

at least he won't do another agbim on us....

for now....I think he is ahead...he should start If rohr deem it to be...


for your midfield pair...

you're right...onazi and ndidi will offer the much needed pace in these kind of match...
and etebo playing as winger wit V Moses gonna be deadly....


I think I like that....had it been Aina have been cleared by FIFA ....I don't mind him playing RB
he has a very good passing accuracy and ball control is top notch....

Bros that Benin game is not a true test o. The only save Ezenwa made all evening was the penalty save. I am not hating on him o. I am just saying it as it is. Compare that with the nature of oppositions Akpeyi has faced: Egypt in Alexandria, Algeria, Senegal and South Africa.

Akpeyi is not being given a fair assessment here honestly. I am not saying he is a fantastic goalkeeper but he is not as bad as people tag him to be here.

the simple truth here is that Etebo is going to play in midfield, Mikel too. The last spot is between Onazi and Ndidi, I don't need to tell y'all who my choice would be but the coach decides anyways so not my problem really.

the two wingers will definitely be VicMo and Musa/Moses, Musa will most definitely start, take that to the bank.

Nacho will still start as the CF. in fact we are going to see that formation against Algeria all over again with the same players, well maybe except for Onazi and Iwobi but the rest will be the same. I wouldn't be surprised if I see Ndidi at right back again, remember the Cameroonians are tall and do score from set pieces, this was the main reason why Ndidi started against Zambia anyways so I don't think that will change

forgiveness:


Who dash Akpeyi first choice?

The fact that he was never considered to be called many times means he has never been considered a super eagles material. Fact!

Take note that Akpeyi has only played one competitive match under Rohr, so expect changes.

Na who say Ndidi no get experience?

However, at the Super Eagle level both Ndidi and Agu are in the same category.Gbam!

Against Algeria, Senegal and South Africa. Which 2 of these 3 are not competitive matches and let's stroke them off.

I can see that Ezenwa and Alampasu have each played 10 competitive matches under
Rohr.

Mikel "ODOGWU" is in town. No matter how you feel about him Mikel brings an air of optimism in the team. He has grown to become a cult figure in the team.

Mickael2:
the simple truth here is that Etebo is going to play in midfield, Mikel too. The last spot is between Onazi and Ndidi, I don't need to tell y'all who my choice would be but the coach decides anyways so not my problem really.

the two wingers will definitely be VicMo and Musa/Moses, Musa will most definitely start, take that to the bank.

Nacho will still start as the CF. in fact we are going to see that formation against Algeria all over again with the same players, well maybe except for Onazi and Iwobi but the rest will be the same. I wouldn't be surprised if I see Ndidi at right back again, remember the Cameroonians are tall and do score from set pieces, this was the main reason why Ndidi started against Zambia anyways so I don't think that will change

Yea,Etebor will start from the midfield but where in the midfield that's the question.

If Rohr hasn't learnt anything about Iheanacho then I am sorry to say he is over hyped. Iheanacho is not a point man.

P.S. Iheanacho need to work on his first touch and I will be watching closely....Nigga need to seat up.

Petrobros:


Against Algeria, Senegal and South Africa. Which 2 of these 3 are not competitive matches and let's stroke them off.

I can see that Ezenwa and Alampasu have each played 10 competitive matches under
Rohr.

Ok! 2 competitive matches in an emergency situation or make shift situations

Why did Rohr had a rethink before using him against South Africa if he was really convincing against Algeria?

Since, Akpeyi has only played 2 - 4 competitive matches for the team but still not convincing, i think the coach knows what to do. Shikena!

Icon4s:


Bros that Benin game is not a true test o. The only save Ezenwa made all evening was the penalty save. I am not hating on him o. I am just saying it as it is. Compare that with the nature of oppositions Akpeyi has faced: Egypt in Alexandria, Algeria, Senegal and South Africa.

Akpeyi is not being given a fair assessment here honestly. I am not saying he is a fantastic goalkeeper but he is not as bad as people tag him to be here.

see sense in your point sir....
but he is just so jittery while on the post...fear all over his face....

that's what i don't like....a goalie should be bold and brave....

anyway...let rohr play whoever he deem best

moses simon, balogun, nwakeme and ogu are already in the country and expected to join up latter tonight or tomorrow morning.
source : their social media accounts

I don't see kelechi playing as a central forward, Rohr inviting three big natural central forwards gives a clue.

okay let me give you an example. Prior to the SA match, I said Awaziem will start especially going by what we heard from camp, and other reports. Isn't that objective? I'd like to see your line up again, to see if you get it 100% right on matchday.

Modified
Make we wait to hear camp reports.. abi any of una here be prophet? lol

Petrobros:


Yes expectations are not always met but more so are Preferences.

'Expectations' begets objectivity while reverse is the case for 'preference'.

Who are the three big natural forwards, and what's the guarantee any of them will start?

Nigerdeltaboi:
moses simon, balogun, nwakeme and ogu are already in the country and expected to join up latter tonight or tomorrow morning.
source : their social media accounts

I don't see kelechi playing as a central forward, Rohr inviting three big natural central forwards gives a clue.

forgiveness:


Ok! 2 competitive matches in an emergency situation or make shift situations

Why did Rohr had a rethink before using him against South Africa if he was really convincing against Algeria?

Since, Akpeyi has only played 2 - 4 competitive matches for the team but still not convincing, i think the coach knows what to do. Shikena!

From only 1 competitive game to 2-4. You see yourself?

...know what to do like throwing in Alampasu in a competitive game as this. I hear.

Humility017:


see sense in your point sir....
but he is just so jittery while on the post...fear all over his face....

that's what i don't like....a goalie should be bold and brave....

anyway...let rohr play whoever he deem best

Bros a devil you know is better than the Angel you don't know.

I also wish we had a better keeper but the other options are not better alternatives.