abdulwastecx:


How can the people agitating for restructuring be greedy?

How can a state like Lagos that generate the buck or non-oil revenue (0ver 60%) receives lesser money than a state like Kano state that contributes close to zero and with anti investment policy( they don't allow alcohol, they don't allow gambling and these are the major contributors to the supposed money they come to Abuja to collect on monthly basis)?

How can oil producing states that financed over 80% of our budget be greedy for demanding to have more controls or total control of the resources available in their land, a supposed resources that pollute their water, rendered their air contaminated, areas with more challenging terrains to build infrastructures? They deserve to have a 100% control of the resources in their land. I am from South west and from a state with no oil resources but restructuring is the only way we can put more people to work.

The 'status quo' needs to be changed, the era of inflated population by a section of the country to gain political power and more money from the federal government need to be stop, the era of do or die politics to become a president and occupy other federal political positions in other to loot needs to be stop and the only way we can achieve this is through 'true federalism'

People agitating for resources control or restructuring are not mostly from the so called south eastern and Niger deltas, but rather they are consigned young Nigerians that as grown delusional of lack of opportunities due to poor governors resulting from a flaw central system of government where a section of the country do all the work while the other part lord over, promote primitive ideology and always want to dictate the pace for the nation

I am a Yoruba and a Muslim but I want a restructured Nigeria where every section can grow at their own pace, where the central government wouldn't be too attractive for criminals so that every elections year Nigeria will not always be at the edge of disintegration, where the ethnicity or the religion ones follows will not be a yardstick for selecting one for elected position at the federal level

The bold got me
Too much sense in this post, if only our leaders would reason this way. This your comment is just too sensible. I loyal sir

@ BIGROVAR.......Just with respect to your build and comments that followed........

Except the word "Aesthetics" have a different meaning I do not know how it relates to the way and manner it's being used as regarding your build.

You do not need a roof beam when your lintel is not chained.
Columns are not used for your type of build except in the instance that your build will carry a concrete facial(parapet) or the span of your build is quite large or the number of blocks from foundation depth to DPC level exceeds 4 block.
if your blinding is not 4" minimum(6" standard) using the appropriate aggregate materials and mix ratio, then you ought to worry about capillary rise.
DPM usage is highly recommended in areas where the land is prone to flooding, water logged, swampy terrain and in some instances reclaimed land.

Any house type can be built with even 5" block too.

All in all your build is okay except if the masons are likened to that tiler who's handwork was posted on the forum some days back.

As long as the design plan of your build is in order that aesthetic you crave for will be done by those who will do the plastering and subsequent overall finishing.
Good luck.

johnson232:

Restructuring is simple
There are no complications to it
All they want is for us to go back to our root.
How were we living before 1966?
The oil producing regions will still be paying the highest tax to federal government, which will still booster the nation's defence & currency.
But let us go & develop our seperate regions...Since the Igbo man is no longer safe in the north, as a result, he is afraid to make any tangible development....

Just like a man with three wives, getting an apartment for each wife & children within the same premises & that which insist all must live under one roof, when he has obviously lost control & siding his favourite one when issues arise...Which do u think is more peaceful?

That is the state of Nigeria presently....

You have not answered my question and have only assumed what restructuring implies.

What difference is "resource control to restructuring"?

It is only the template that will tell you its intention and not what we all assume it to be.

bixton:


You have not answered my question and have only assumed what restructuring implies.

What difference is "resource control to restructuring"?

It is only the template that will tell you its intention and not what we all assume it to be.

Restructuring means the following
1. Resources control
2. Change of constitution which involve insertion of referendum and other clauses which will be agreed upon by all the federating units.
3. Change of the legislative arms from bicameral into unicameral system.
4. True devolution of power from a centralized federating state into a true federal states where each states or region will be able to make laws, police their state and organized their economy

abdulwastecx:


Restructuring means the following
1. Resources control
2. Change of constitution which involve insertion of referendum and other clauses which will be agreed upon by all the federating units.
3. Change of the legislative arms from bicameral into unicameral system.
4. True devolution of power from a centralized federating state into a true federal states where each states or region will be able to make laws, police their state and organized their economy

Good and very good.
If we just agree to No. 4, then every other will naturally fall into place.

abdulwastecx:


Restructuring means the following
1. Resources control
2. Change of constitution which involve insertion of referendum and other clauses which will be agreed upon by all the federating units.
3. Change of the legislative arms from bicameral into unicameral system.
4. True devolution of power from a centralized federating state into a true federal states where each states or region will be able to make laws, police their state and organized their economy

Well said, not everyone from your area and religion will agree with you though, but you have spoken the truth nothing but the truth

johnson232:

I am glad u said rule of thumb, meaning not strictly accurate or reliable for every situation.
Who told u internal walls don't serve as load bearing walls?
U think for bungalows, only external walls serve as loadbearing walls?

I think you need to check a (Science) Dictionary to find out the meaning/usage of the phrase "rule of Thumb".
That your definition/meaning of the phrase (as bolded) is what we call "manufactured in my backyard".
Completely incorrect as incorrect could possibly be.
It is either accurate or not.
Which one is not strictly accurate?
if you say 'unscientific', Yes. And that is why l said "found to be accurate, based on experience. over time".
It simply means, if you do that thing (following the rule of thumb), you cant be wrong...as many, many have done the same thing, with good results.

Daboomb:


I think you need to check a (Science) Dictionary to find out the meaning/usage of the phrase "rule of Thumb".
That your definition/meaning of the phrase (as bolded) is what we call "manufactured in my backyard".
Completely incorrect as incorrect could possibly be.
It is either accurate or not.
Which one is not strictly accurate?
if you say 'unscientific', Yes. And that is why l said "found to be accurate, based on experience. over time".
It simply means, if you do that thing (following the rule of thumb), you cant be wrong...as many, many have done the same thing, with good results.

@ bold You really do find it difficult to debate without getting sentimental & making snide remarks.
This your dictionary u uploaded what is the name?
We are all here to learn, u think i will concont a definition just to defend a point?
What do i stand to gain?
If u can't be wrong with rule of thumb, how is it now different from standard?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb

Please don't ever quote me on this thread again.
I only debate with those who make constructive comments...

johnson232:

You made mention of REGIONALISM, what is the difference btw federalism, regionalism and decentralisation?

I dont want to go on a lecture but l will oblige you a short answer.

Federalism - like we operate now (Powerful Centre, we contributing units)
Regionalism - Like we operated pre-independence or just immediately after it (before the Nzeogu Coup, Eastern region, Western Region, Northern Region, etc).
Decentralisation - Moving power/control from the Centre, to contributing units like Regions, States, LGA's, e.t.c

johnson232:


Those kicking against restructuring are the greedy ones, not those agitating for it.
We all know why they don't want it, because they all have oil blocks in the south

If there was no crude in the south, nobody would have kicked against restructuring...Therein lies the greed.

If we remove sentiments, which tends to becloud our judgement or understanding of the fundamentals of the constitution, you will agree that so many different groups/people, have diverse opinion, understanding and even intentions, of what RESTRUCTURING is.

So, if you say it means A, then your understanding and arguements will go in that direction, which may not be in tandem with that of someone whose understanding, opinion and intentions of the phrase is.

But anyone who says RESTRUCTURING is the SAMETHING as RESOURCE CONTROL, either needs to go back to school or keep being mischievious!
It is evident to say "Resource Control" can be implemented as part of our Restructuring, just as many other things can.

That is why l said, those who want Resource Control are greedy because they know they will never get it under the present scheme of Nigerian Constitution and how the country is run but they chose to hide their REAL INTENTIONS under Restructuring.

I wont go into details a second time (l have explained what the objective was and what the strategy is and why l concluded it is borne out of Selfishness and greed.

Mind you, l am not saying it is "Just and Equitable" the way things are being run right now or even thirty years ago but l am saying "wholesale devolution of resources to their catchment area is inpractical right now, impossible to achieve (except by the use of force) and therefore unrealisable.
Crude has been in the South since 1953 or even earlier (Oloibiri Oil Well) and there was no agitation for Complete Resource Control, back then.
Now, Nigeria, like a child brought up to suck its mother's bossom, cannot be weaned-off-it by fiat, suddenly or just because someone wants it.
It will take a lot of drasctic action from the Mother, father and other related members, to achieve such but it can be done, if doen gradually, with honesty and good intentions.

That the South/south or East sees the Oil as an opportunity to corner a very lucrative earnings hitherto enjoyed by the whole country, for a far smaller fragment of the Nigeria-setup (themselves), does not mean it is good for everyone in the polity or it will be achieved easily, just by mouthing or agreeing to restructure, as cover-up for their real intnetions.

Right now, Complete Resource Control can mean an "existential threat" to those who have been accustomed to depending on it, without making provision for an equally lucrative or at least "viable alternative".
Even when such provision is made, it will take some time to make it work to the satisfaction of all.

But we can always apply the "use of force" to achieve our aim, as some groups are trying to; my only problem is that it will give rise to very unpalatable consequences.

johnson232:

This your military system of government, do u mean the normal military system dat ruled before?

No!
I explained it a lot in my post.
Care to go back and read the modalities again, as explained.
How can anyone wish for example, an Abacha or IBB military mis-rule on Nigeria?

johnson232:

Who are even really the greedy ones here...
Those whose resources are taken to develop another land, while their lands are left in a total state of degredation....Or those who think presidency is their birthright, when they offer nothing but war, all because of their ridiculous beliefs....

You are too sentimental with your thought-process!
-When you blame "them", but fail to blame your own Governors who get 13% of the total resource from Crude oil sales and yet have nothing to show for it! They cant even compete with Lagos for development!

-You dont balme your 'sons' who head NDDC and loot the money that the "born to rule" allocates your region for developmental purposes?

-You dont blame your militants who destroy Pipelines on the basis of agitation for resource control but when Govt allocates money to them directly, to develop their locality, like Asaru Dokubo, they use the money to go nad build a University in another country (Togo), when they could have built it in the south South so that it provides education, employment, business for your people?

- When you blame the Northerners, You dont blame your leaders like Mama Piss who laudered Millions of Dollars into so many accounts ($35Million in one account) while claiming it was an inheritance from her Grandmother who sells roasted plantain along the roadside.
- You dont blame people like Dezzianni Allison Madueke, who as Minister for Petroleum in a Govt also headed by a Southerner from the same area, who looted the resources meant to develop your area and used the funds to buy Estates, mansions, and fleets of luxuries in foreign countries?
You dont blame your own son of the soil, who was President in this country ofr nearly seven years yet he could not transform his own state, not to talk of his region into what it should be? Is he going to blame the Northerners as well, for not providing you with drinkable water in Ijaw land or Gbaramatu kingdom or in Yenogoa or Bayelsa?
If a Northerner President can do all the road in the North, what stops a Southerner (moreso a South/southerner!) from doing the same when he was President? Instead, he turned himself into an ATM without Pin-code, anyone should come and share money President.

I bet you will tell me it is okay, as long as the thief is "one of our brothers" from the South South.

Let me tell you the TRUTH here, even if you hand-over the purse from the sales of Crude Oil to the South South (as in 100% Resource control), they will still be undeveloped and backward simply because the thieves like l mentioned above, will still be the same ones controlling the funds but this time, they would be awash with more than enough funds to steal.

A man's worst enemies are members of his own household!

South Sudan asked for Resource contol, when they were under Republic of Sudan.
They said all these things being rehashed by peole from the East and South South.
Eventually, by some stroke of "bad luck", they got their wish and as of today, the same people are REFUGEES in the Rep. Sudan they said they wanted to leave and that it is robbing them.

What happened? Their "own set" of Dezziannis, Asari Dokubos, Petersides, Jonathans, and other 'smart' looters simply looted their resources on a more grand scale and plunged them into further inter-clan wars and inflcited more hunger an dfamine on them.

This is why l say resource control is not the solution (it is just a bunch of greedy and selfish cabal pushing the gullible folowers into thinking that will solve their hardships!) but if we can tackle corruption effectively, treat ourselves with "fairness, equity and justice thereafter", all other things will begin to fall in place.
I have even heard some say that when they secede, they reserve the right to live anywhere in Nigeria!
Are people just dreaming, ignorant or just being plain mischievious?

This is a serious issue and such jokes need to be jettisoned.
Let us remove sentiments are be realistic, then we would see the light

Restructuring my bum bum, what nonsense.
I Will only support restructuring when the state governor hands off local government, complete autonomy! The local government has been rendered useless by the state government hence the LG are now beggars for their own rite.
Secondly why did the lawmakers from the South not support the devolution bill? They voted against the Bill, so who is deceiving who?
Nobody shouted restructuring when GEJ was in power, were they sleeping. Hypocrites everywhere

bixton:


Have you seen the template for "restructuring" and what exactly does "restructuring" mean by those who are clamouring for it?

This is exactly my position!
Too many people mouthing "restructuring" but each having a different meaning/intention/understanding of the same phrase!

bixton:


Good and very good.
If we just agree to No. 4, then every other will naturally fall into place.

The southern lawmakers voted against the devolution Bill some weeks back. Who is deceiving who

johnson232:

@ bold You really do find it difficult to debate without getting sentimental & making snide remarks.
This your dictionary u uploaded what is the name?
We are all here to learn, u think i will concont a definition just to defend a point?
What do i stand to gain?
If u can't be wrong with rule of thumb, how is it now different from standard?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb

Please don't ever quote me on this thread again.
I only debate with those who make constructive comments...

Dont make immature threats you cant back up. No need.

Since you have no control over who quotes you or not, the sensible thing will be to eff-off the thread so that no one can see your comments and therfore cant quote you. (or even not quote or respond to people you dont want to quote you)

How can you ask a question of someone and in the same post, ask the same person not to quote you? Does that sound reasonable to even you?
That is why l 'summarise you' as being too sentimental and emotional.

Having said that, below is the link to my Dictionary. Its called Google Search.

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=Science+Diction+meaning+of+Rule+of+thumb&oq=Science+Diction+meaning+of+Rule+of+thumb&aqs=chrome..69i57.13365j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

BTW: Wikipedia is not an authority on subjects, it is an open and uncensored, editable body of opinion.... yes, mere opinion that you and me can add to or remove from.

Daboomb:


Dont make immature threats you cant back up. No need.

Since you have no control over who quotes you or not, the sensible thing will be to eff-off the thread so that no one can see your comments and therfore cant quote you. (or even not quote or respond to people you dont want to quote you)

How can you ask a question of someone and in the same post, ask the same person not to quote you? Does that sound reasonable to even you?
That is why l 'summarise you' as being too sentimental and emotional.

Having said that, below is the link to my Dictionary. Its called Google Search.

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=Science+Diction+meaning+of+Rule+of+thumb&oq=Science+Diction+meaning+of+Rule+of+thumb&aqs=chrome..69i57.13365j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

BTW: Wikipedia is not an authority on subjects, it is an open and uncensored, editable body of opinion.... yes, mere opinion that you and me can add to or remove from.

No mind am jare ���, they cannot debate! All this GEJ supporters.
Back to property matter I bought 12mm today at 145,000 per tonne to site, 10mm 150,000 to site in ibeju axis of Lagos

bigrovar:
Hi guys. This is a bit of a long one:

So I have been away (hustling and stuff) and decided to build a low budget functional house for my family and stop the house rent which is becoming a drain. I decided to build on a 50 by 50 plot of land. A basic 2 bedroom bungalow.

I did very basic floor plan (see attached) to allow for enough space for rooms and a packing space which can take 2 cars. I used this tool http://www.sweethome3d.com/ for my floor plan.

Due to my busy schedule, I left the supervision with my brother since he had experience in construction. He hired the technicians and hands for the project while I provided money.

They took the project to lintel level when I came back to inspect it. Unfortunately I was very unhappy with what I saw. Here are my concerns


1) Against my instruction, my brother still went on to mix 9 inches with 6 inches for the outter walls. I told him to use 9 inches for the outter walls of the house all through and reserve the 6inches for the house. This was not done instead 9 inches blocks was used up to window level and 6 inches used to lintel level. I fear that this might affect the structural integrity of the house in future, since the house was designed not to have pillers and DPC was not used in the 3 course foundation.

2) I halted the roofing of the house because the carpenter recommended I use head course which is a casting done round the house 2 courses after the lintel. Is this really necessary?


My brother said the style of laying 6inch blocks on 9inch was fine since I wont be doing parapet and the soil was dry and good and " people do it alot without issues" but am not sold.

Is they any remedy to this before roofing? please gurus in the house. I would appreciate your take. I have attached pictures of the property in its current state.

my brother go ahead with ur roofing, there is no need for roof beam because there are no columns to transfer the loads of the beam .Nothing is wrong with ur building structurally.

Hajji Agba where is our RAM? For Sallah!!!

back2sender:

The southern lawmakers voted against the devolution Bill some weeks back. Who is deceiving who

That is the problem!

We say something to please the crowd and then do another thing when the chips are down.

The same Lawmakers will be the ones who will come on TV to tell "the masses" that they must retsructure and the masses would ignorantly think it means that the money realised from selling crude Oil will begin to be shared 'from house to house' in their area.

I will summarise the kind of restructring l want to mean: Where everything is put in place to make Corruption so difficult to practice, that most people will think it is not worth the effort.

For example, most state corruption would earn anyone a death penalty in China, hence you dont hear that Politicians steal money meant to develop the Villages and Towns.
Just imagine one person looting $1.2Billion?
That sort of moeny will tranform any City in the South South, into the one of tose cities that people queue to get Visa to run to or travel over desert and Mediterranean, risking their lives!

back2sender:
Hajji Agba where is our RAM? For Sallah!!!

You no see say I just dey "sit-down-dey-look" for here before I am systematically jabbed and insulted.
The RAM dey come jare!

Hajji M.

back2sender:

No mind am jare ���, they cannot debate! All this GEJ supporters.
Back to property matter I bought 12mm today at 145,000 per tonne to site, 10mm 150,000 to site in ibeju axis of Lagos

Which proves what we were arguing about some weeks back, that these iron rods, despite being same weight (Per Tonne), come in different prices.



I am just wondering if a time will come when 'we the people' can begin to ask anyone who needs something that is left over from our build (as long as they can transport it) to come and pick it up.

I know they do so in some countries where people can give out anything or exchange it for something else they need or sell it for next to nothing, to other people that need same.

There was a time I had too much iron on my own site (bought too much because of the expectation of rise in price) and it became a nuisance because l could not store the rest when the building finished.
I was asking around if anyone wanted building iron (even even dug-out sand from the Soakaway needed evac) and everyone sems not to want it at that moment
I was lucky eventually as one person ask me to bring it (I was like you should be the one coming to take it since l am giving it out for free!).

So, if there was a website that l could just say "hey guys, free iron if you want, just bring your own transport".
That would be real cool because it could be my turn next time.

Daboomb:



I dont want to go on a lecture but l will oblige you an short answer.

Federalism - like we operate now (Powerful Centre, we contributing units)
Regionalism - Like we operated pre-independence or just immediately after it (before the Nzeogu Coup, Eastern region, Western Region, Northern Region, etc).
Decentralisation - Moving power/control from the Centre, to contributing units like Regions, States, LGA's, e.t.c





If we remove sentiments, which tends to becloud our judgement or understanding of the fundamentals of the constitution, you will agree that so many different groups/people, have diverse opinion, understanding and even intentions, of what RESTRUCTURING is.

So, if you say it means A, then your understanding and arguements will go in that direction, which may not be in tandem with that of someone whose understanding, opinion and intentions of the phrase is.

But anyone who says RESTRUCTURING is the SAMETHING as RESOURCE CONTROL, either needs to go back to school or keep being mischievious!
It is evident to say "Resource Control" can be implemented as part of our Restructuring, just as many other things can.

That is why l said, those who want Resource Control are greedy because they know they will never get it under the present scheme of Nigerian Constitution and how the country is run but they chose to hide their REAL INTENTIONS under Restructuring.

I wont go into details a second time (l have explained what the objective was and what the strategy is and why l concluded it is borne out of Selfishness and greed.

Mind you, l am not saying it is "Just and Equitable" the way things are being run right now or even thirty years ago but l am saying "wholesale devolution of resources to their catchment area is inpractical right now, impossible to achieve (except by the use of force) and therefore unrealisable.
Crude has been in the South since 1953 or even earlier (Oloibiri Oil Well) and there was no agitation for Complete Resource Control, back then.
Now, Nigeria, like a child brought up to suck its mother's bossom, cannot be weaned-off-it by fiat, suddenly or just because someone wants it.
It will take a lot of drasctic action from the Mother, father and other related members, to achieve such but it can be done, if doen gradually, with honesty and good intentions.

That the South/south or East sees the Oil as an opportunity to corner a very lucrative earnings hitherto enjoyed by the whole country, for a far smaller fragment of the Nigeria-setup (themselves), does not mean it is good for everyone in the polity or it will be achieved easily, just by mouthing or agreeing to restructure, as cover-up for their real intnetions.

Right now, Complete Resource Control can mean an "existential threat" to those who have been accustomed to depending on it, without making provision for an equally lucrative or at least "viable alternative".
Even when such provision is made, it will take some time to make it work to the satisfaction of all.

But we can always apply the "use of force" to achieve our aim, as some groups are trying to; my only problem is that it will give rise to very unpalatable consequences.


No!
I explained it a lot in my post.
Care to go back and read the modalities again, as explained.
How can anyone wish for example, an Abacha or IBB military mis-rule on Nigeria?

Is there any man who is detribalized and without sentiments?
We Nigerians we have a way of sayings things to our taste.
I am so so happy that both the definitions of "resource control and restructuring" are not defined in any dictionary as used by we Nigerians. One will have to read certain materials separately in order to come to near clearer terms to its true meaning.

Restructuring is nothing but an ambiguous word used and one can only bamboozle an infant with such use of terms.

There is no such terminology as Complete Resource Control"..............it is tautology.

Resource control is embedded in Restructuring and you cannot prescribe Restructuring without implementing Resource Control except you have full fledged sentimental ulterior motives.

It is only in Nigeria where we do not copy good things to the latter.

Like I tell my friends......if we are not doing it the right way then we should not do it. There's no room for patch patch.

If we still want to confuse our senses with the word restructuring then I think Nigeria as a nation should try to read the history of UAE and how dubai,etc,etc........became a tourism city for everyone.

Though I do not subscribe to reading any external article based on the subject matter till I see the "RESTRUCTURING TEMPLATE". I will leave this link and attached file for those who care to read.....

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/07/what-is-restructuring/


#ourmumudonoverdue#

back2sender:

The southern lawmakers voted against the devolution Bill some weeks back. Who is deceiving who

Those law makers only serve their interest. You ought to understand what kind of back room politics that exist before they will do such.

bixton:



Is there any man who is detribalized and without sentiments?
We Nigerians we have a way of sayings things to our taste.
I am so so happy that both the definitions of "resource control and restructuring" are not defined in any dictionary as used by we Nigerians. One will have to read certain materials separately in order to come to near clearer terms to its true meaning.

Restructuring is nothing but an ambiguous word used and one can only bamboozle an infant with such use of terms.

There is no such terminology as Complete Resource Control"..............it is tautology.

Resource control is embedded in Restructuring and you cannot prescribe Restructuring without implementing Resource Control except you have full fledged sentimental ulterior motives.

It is only in Nigeria where we do not copy good things to the latter.

Like I tell my friends......if we are not doing it the right way then we should not do it. There's no room for patch patch.

If we still want to confuse our senses with the word restructuring then I think Nigeria as a nation should try to read the history of UAE and how dubai,etc,etc........became a tourism city for everyone.

Though I do not subscribe to reading any external article based on the subject matter till I see the "RESTRUCTURING TEMPLATE". I will leave this link and attached file for those who care to read.....

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/07/what-is-restructuring/


#ourmumudonoverdue#

Basically, withn the Nigerian context, different people have different idea, expectations and intentions, of what resource Control is and what they expect from it.
That is the bottom line.

So, when you hear different people from different regions saying 'Restructure Nigeria', one needs to tread carefully and ensure that in accepting that idea, you are accepting what they want and what you think they want.
Both, as we have seen, are not necessarily the same thing.

BTW: I am still interested in anyone can explaining to me, How Resource Control (as in na our oil, so it belongs to us and we are the ones who can explore it and sell it and get the proceeds) can be achieved in present day Nigeria, without any use of force.
I mean, in practical terms.

To me, l think the idea is unrealisable right now, now that every part of the country still depends on that same commodity the "owners" want to arrogate to themselves.
If we remove resource control out of what we want to restructure, l think it will make the restructuring of the nation, along th elines of equity, fairplay and justice, realisable on time.

Everyone is addicted to Crude Oil and the cheap money it brings, it will take more than some agitation to give it up to just one region.
I have heard it said in some quarters that rather than let those claiming ownership have it all alone, 'they' are willing to destroy it altogether so that no one can have it.

Reason l said, it will take some 'use of force' to sort this thing out.

Daboomb:


Basically, withn the Nigerian context, different people have different idea, expectations and intentions, of what resource Control is and what they expect from it.
That is the bottom line.

So, when you hear different people from different regions saying 'Restructure Nigeria', one needs to tread carefully and ensure that in accepting that idea, you are accepting what they want and what you think they want.
Both, as we have seen, are not necessarily the same thing.

BTW: I am still interested in anyone can explaining to me, How Resource Control (as in na our oil, so it belongs to us and we are the ones who can explore it and sell it and get the proceeds) can be achieved in present day Nigeria, without any use of force.
I mean, in practical terms.

To me, l think the idea is unrealisable right now, now that every part of the country still depends on that same commodity the "owners" want to arrogate to themselves.
If we remove resource control out of what we want to restructure, l think it will make the restructuring of the nation, along th elines of equity, fairplay and justice, realisable on time.

Everyone is addicted to Crude Oil and the cheap money it brings, it will take more than some agitation to give it up to just one region.
I have heard it said in some quarters that rather than let those claiming ownership have it all alone, 'they' are willing to destroy it altogether so that no one can have it.

Reason l said, it will take some 'use of force' to sort this thing out.

I will leave that "gossip made in some quarters" to those who speak them.
Everything has its season.

We are in a country where the government have made a greater part of the populace to be intellectually lazy and idle.
China is the net importer of crude oil because of its domestic consumption.

At the appropriate time everything will fall into place one way or the other.

https://www.freecycle.org

Someone can easily set up a Naija group on this...

Edit: or, open up a thread here on Naija land specifically for "free construction materials" (but remember to outlaw political discussions there so it does not lose its relevance like this one appears to heading).

Daboomb:


So, if there was a website that l could just say "hey guys, free iron if you want, just bring your own transport".
That would be real cool because it could be my turn next time.

bixton:


I will leave that "gossip made in some quarters" to those who speak them.
Everything has its season.

We are in a country where the government have made a greater part of the populace to be intellectually lazy and idle.
China is the net importer of crude oil because of its domestic consumption.

At the appropriate time everything will fall into place one way or the other.

Its not gossip, just because you've not heard it.
When OBj promised to flatten Odi town, he discussed it with some inner circles and if got out and a few people including me, heard it.
I recall someone also said it is 'lame talk', until it happened.
Anyway, that is neither here nor there.

Can we blame Govt for everything? Even our personal choices to be mentally up and doing and to sharpen our intellect?
I will say It is a choice!

jabolo:
https://www.freecycle.org

Someone can easily set up a Naija group on this...

Edit: or, open up a thread here on Naija land specifically for "free construction materials" (but remember to outlaw political discussions there so it does not lose its relevance like this one appears to heading).

I think l have read it somewhere that "man himself, is a political animal".
Everything we do, is rooted in Politics, but a healthy form of Politics.
Not the cash-and-carry or kill-am Politics we play in Nigeria.

You cant divest Politics from anything. It is what brings anything and everything into relevance.

Be that as it may, what l have seen is not a discussion forum, just a "ask and give" type of setup

mufutau55:


You no see say I just dey "sit-down-and-look" for here before I am systematically jabbed and insulted.
The RAM dey come jare!

Hajji M.

Agba ti o binu, ni omo e ma npo.

This too shall pass, the ship will right itself. It always does.

EgunMogaji:

Agba ti o binu, ni omo e ma npo.
This too shall pass, the ship will right itself. It always does.

You are always full of "word of wisdom". Thank you.

Hajji M.

hamatime:
Able men in the house, pls I need u all to help me identifying if this quotation is okay for a 5bedrooms bungalow. Not all ensuit, am concern the price might be high.

I think its fair, except for the 6 rolls of 1.5mm green and 2 rolls of 2.5mm green.

Let me brief you how it works.

1.5mm is for lighting fixtures and ceiling fans etc. Note that green is not required for these so tge 6 green is questionable. Generally for stuff less than 500watts while 2.5mm are for things rated 500-2000watts such as suckets, some Air-conditioning, water heaters etc.

4mm is for things above 2000watt such as cooker unit. A 4 burner electric cooker can range from 6kw to 10kw if all are on at once. You could change your cooker from a 1 burner to 4 burner, that means using 2.5mm is not safe in future.

10-16mm wires are load wires depending on electrical services design or demand. A 2 bedroom flat using 3 phase maybe safe with a 10mm per phase but may not be safe with same wire in a single phase setup. Selecting a suitable load wire depends on the load calculations of the entire house. The quantity of this wire depends on distance of the meter to Distribution Box (DB's).

Wiring for this 4bedroom wit 2 sitting rooms of about 190sqm was done by the quote below. I did my manipulations on it by using 5 red 1.5mm, 5 Black 1.5mm, 2 green 1.5mm, 2 red 2.5mm, 2 black 2.5mm. Take notice i didnt use any 2.5mm green. 1.5mm is what i used with the 2.5mm in the suckets. Therefore the quantity of green should match 2.5mm and 4mm put together.

Ignore the prices as the quotation was given over metime

Daboomb:

Its not gossip, just because you've not heard it.
When OBj promised to flatten Odi town, he discussed it with some inner circles and if got out and a few people including me, heard it.
I recall someone also said it is 'lame talk', until it happened.
Anyway, that is neither here nor there.

Can we blame Govt for everything? Even our personal choices to be mentally up and doing and to sharpen our intellect?
I will say It is a choice!

Everything in life is a choice.
Government is each and every individual. Meaningful development cannot exist without the acknowledgement of a greater part of the populace key-into the dream.

This is a social forum so you should understand when I say it's a gossip.......for there is a season for everything and it will all fall into place at the right time.

In a shopping mall every item comes with a price tag.

Daboomb:


I think l have read it somewhere that "man himself, is a political animal".
Everything we do, is rooted in Politics, but a healthy form of Politics.
Not the cash-and-carry or kill-am Politics we play in Nigeria.

You cant divest Politics from anything. It is what brings anything and everything into relevance.

Be that as it may, what l have seen is not a discussion forum, just a "ask and give" type of setup

Duly noted bro. A time will come when the "ask" will step in and there will not be a "giving".
I am sure anything regarding building construction with regard to getting freebies have been addressed on this forum.
They can choose to scroll back and forth the threads to get the information.