Deicide:

Yes because you mostly have unprotected sex so you think everyone is like you the reason am engaging you is simple because we are still on the topic and pls i would not tolerate any insult not being able to have a civil conversation is not my fault...

I wouldn't have opened this thread if I hadn't done some personal research.....personal hygiene is not that necessary for females but it helps

@reded it does but just few that it can be ignored just like in males

Oga go and get yourself circumcised and stop your ignorant talk.

When you get married, go ahead and sleep with your wife with a condom throughout your marriage because you feel HIV is only sexually transmitted ba?

If you like vex because I say you dey ignorant. All your comments show say your mumu level dey very high!

Female circumcision has no benefits PERIOD!

LightandDarkness:


You would do better to communicate your points without insults.

Anyway on this one the facts support you.

Good a "logical" atheist has learnt from an "illogical" theist today

obinna58:
What the fvck is wrong with your brain

NOT EVEN A GREAT MAGICIAN CAN FIGURE THIS OUT.

butterflylion:


Good a "logical" atheist has learnt from an "illogical" theist today

Now it's a good thing I have never stated that all theists ate illogical. I made a statement, you made yours, the facts didn't support me so i was wrong. End, that's how I do my things.

LightandDarkness:


Now it's a good thing I have never stated that all theists ate illogical. I made a statement, you made yours, the facts didn't support me so i was wrong. End, that's how I do my things.

I didn't specifically direct my comment at you. I made a sweeping comment. Theists have been called "illogical" by atheists and more so, here on Nairaland.

If you have never said so then disregard.

butterflylion:


So an Old Testament recommendation of about 3500 BC suddenly is now taken seriously due to its proven health benefits or reasons.

Well perhaps those "goat herders" who atheists claim wrote the scriptures who were not biologists or professors who never went to Harvard, Yale and the likes of them knew something Afterall

Lmao.
You don see their hypocrisy ba.?

I'm completely against the cutting off part of a person without due consent. Furthermore, modern scientific sources show us that the foreskin is actually a very useful part of a functional pen!s, full of nerve-endings, and allows easier penetration during sexual intercourse. The purported health benefits are not worth the risk and pain involved in the operation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/denmarks-29000-doctors-declare-circumcision-of-healthy_us_58753ec1e4b08052400ee6b3?timestamp=1484242698606

We've banned Female Genital Mutilation in all forms including the clitoral prick, owing to the rights to body autonomy. Why then shouldn't we do the same for Male Genital Mutilation?

butterflylion:


I have never seen where Christians would say their threads are meant strictly for Christians and that stopped the atheists from entering it and making their usual lousy comments.

Per your comment about Egyptians and circumcision it still doesn't change the fact that alleged "goat herders" also declared it.

Maybe they owned world class medical research centres and sensitive equipment that could run tests and diagnose all by itself.

Your talk is unnecessary. This has little to do with religion.

Swerve

@ butterflylion read this article and tell me what you think.

http://www.intactamerica.org/learnmore

I once watched a certain video on YouTube where Ayaan hirsi Ali was speaking about her foundation and her fight against female genital mutilation.

when I read the comments I wasn't surprised to see some men making it about themselves because they will see their issues and keep quiet but come to where feminists are speaking and derail the conversation by screaming "what about the boys" lol

what surprised me actually was that many people in the comments were really against circumcision for boys.

They claimed scientists are playing down the disadvantages of infant circumcision because it is mostly done by the jews and they are placed on pedestal unlike the Muslims everybody critize.

I read the link to articles posted in the comments, I must say they really have a strong case.

Proudgorgeousga:
@ butterflylion read this article and tell me what you think.

http://www.intactamerica.org/learnmore

I once watched a certain video on YouTube where Ayaan hirsi Ali was speaking about her foundation and her fight against female genital mutilation.

when I read the comments I wasn't surprised to see some men making it about themselves because they will see their issues and keep quiet but come to where feminists are speaking and derail the conversation by screaming "what about the boys" lol

what surprised me actually was that many people in the comments were really against circumstition for boys.

They claimed scientists are playing down the disadvantages of infant circumstition because it is mostly done by the jews and they are placed on pedestal unlike the Muslims everybody critize.

I read the link to articles posted in the comments, I must say they really have a strong case.

I have already touched on much of what is contained in that article .

Circumcision holds immense benefit for men but none for the female. Perhaps you need to read about it from male adults who got circumcised and see their before and after testimonies. Read the link below

http://www.circinfo.net/men_circumcised_as_adults_tell_it_as_it_is.html

CoolUsername:
I'm completely against the cutting off part of a person without due consent. Furthermore, modern scientific sources show us that the foreskin is actually a very useful part of a functional pen!s, full of nerve-endings, and allows easier penetration during sexual intercourse. The purported health benefits are not worth the risk and pain involved in the operation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/denmarks-29000-doctors-declare-circumcision-of-healthy_us_58753ec1e4b08052400ee6b3?timestamp=1484242698606

We've banned Female Genital Mutilation in all forms including the clitoral prick, owing to the rights to body autonomy. Why then shouldn't we do the same for Male Genital Mutilation?

Not worth the pain right? Tell that to these men


http://www.circinfo.net/men_circumcised_as_adults_tell_it_as_it_is.html

butterflylion:


I have already touched on much of what is contained in that article .

Circumcision holds immense benefit for men but none for the female. Perhaps you need to read about it from male adults who got circumcised and see their before and after testimonies. Read the link below

http://www.circinfo.net/men_circumcised_as_adults_tell_it_as_it_is.html

Yeah I agree, but the nay sayers say the benefits aren't enough to make circumcision for boys universal or mandatory.

In general I think the benefits of circumcision outweigh the risks anyway.

butterflylion:


So an Old Testament recommendation of about 3500 BC suddenly is now taken seriously due to its proven health benefits or reasons.

Well perhaps those "goat herders" who atheists claim wrote the scriptures who were not biologists or professors who never went to Harvard, Yale and the likes of them knew something Afterall

Circumcision in Africa has been an ancient practice and tradition long before they knew the foreign religion...

The world is far bigger than your bible, ignorance is what you get when you think the world revolves around your religion

Proudgorgeousga:


Yeah I agree, but the nay sayers say the benefits aren't enough to make circumstition for boys universal or mandatory.

In general I think the benefits of circumstion outweigh the risks anyway.

The naysayers are simply being emotional about it. A moment of pain is better than a death sentence.

The benefits are life preserving and dignifying. They just want to complain. While they are doing so, more people are talking about the personal benefits they got from it just like in the link I provided.

realmindz:

Circumcision in Africa has been an ancient practice and tradition long before they knew the foreign religion...

The world is far bigger than your bible, ignorance is what you get when you think the world revolves around your religion

We don leave this location Tay Tay so make adjustments and get to where we are. Our forefathers must have had well equipped medical places and world class research centres to have known about the benefits even before science confirmed it ba?

You do not even see how silly your comment is.

Have you been circumcised?

butterflylion:


We don leave this location Tay Tay so make adjustments and get to where we are. Our forefathers must have had well equipped medical places and world class research centres to have known about the benefits even before science confirmed it ba?

You do not even see how silly your comment is.

Have you been circumcised?

what point are you trying to drive at...

You actually sound funny in your attempt to sound smart and logical

realmindz:


what point are you trying to drive at...

You actually sound funny in your attempt to sound smart and logical

Ogbeni have you been circumcised? Leave all this your dumb talk and desire to start a nonsensical argument when we have cemented the place you want to dig up.

If you have not and are still carrying around a dirty, stinking, extra skin, go and do so.

butterflylion:


Ogbeni have you been circumcised? Leave all this your dumb talk and desire to start a nonsensical argument when we have cemented the place you want to dig up.


If you have not and are still carrying around a dirty, stinking, extra skin, go and do so.

Yahweh the perfect one created that extra skin.

Are you saying Yahweh is confused? That's blasphemy.
are you saying Yahweh made a mistake creating something dirty and stinking?
Pls be guided and don't insult the holy one sitting in the sky

realmindz:


Yahweh the perfect one created that extra skin.

Are you saying Yahweh is confused? That's blasphemy.
are you saying Yahweh made a mistake creating something dirty and stinking?
Pls be guided and don't insult the holy one sitting in the sky

You don finish?

Now go and get circumcised and free yourself of the stench and Micheline tire syndrome and live longer

butterflylion:



You don finish?

Now go and get circumcised and free yourself of the stench and Micheline tire syndrome and live longer

This guy is just here to troll.


Here are the facts.

1. Circumcision is older than the bible.

2. Male circumcision has more benefits than disadvantages. That extra skin carries extra health problems.

3. However, there is a human rights debate-- shouldnt the child have rights over his body?

butterflylion:



You don finish?

Now go and get circumcised and free yourself of the stench and Micheline tire syndrome and live longer

But it was created by Yahweh..

seun pls ban this guy for insulting my great Yahweh as being imperfect for creating stinking things

realmindz:


Yahweh the perfect one created that extra skin.

Are you saying Yahweh is confused? That's blasphemy.
are you saying Yahweh made a mistake creating something dirty and stinking?
Pls be guided and don't insult the holy one sitting in the sky

My brother, I laugh so hard when I argue with this people because I understand their problem.

Do you know what a program does to a computer? That's what religion does to people. I use to react that way and now I know where the problem lies - The Brain (CPU)

My debugging started when I read Hardmirror's account here. It made me to pick a couple of books the first being "The Age of Reason". That book debug a whole lot of nonsense.

So when you hit religious people with common sense, the particular program (religion) installed in their brain from childhood starts reacting.

realmindz:


But it was created by Yahweh..

seun pls ban this guy for insulting my great Yahweh as being imperfect for creating stinking things

#your mumu no be here.

I can see you wish to argue nonsensically this morning but no worry I dey fast today. I dey prepare my belle for the ram meat coming my way today in overload do make I save my energy for the battle of the meats.

You have a pass for today.

butterflylion:


So asking that you read for the sake of your son is an insult? Lmao

Do you see why many people say atheists are thick between the ears?

Despite knowing the health risks and health benefits of circumcision you would rather have your son decide when he is already an adult? Perhaps by then he would have gotten a terminal health condition due to your ignorance and "wicked" thought of allowing him to decide by himself. Smh

This is why circumcision is recommended

1. Easier hygiene.

2. Decreased risk of urinary tract infections.

3. Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections.

4. Decreased risk of penile cancer.

Now that you know, you can "wickedly" keep saying you would wait till he is an adult so he can decide for himself.

And show me one, just one single verse in the Bible where the above stated reasons for circumcision is cited. Isn't this why that ladygodiva said people today circumcise for purely health reasons as opposed to the religious obligations of the old testament?

So much of the health benefits was dictated in the old testament to the extent that Paul could say neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts...

Abegi

butterflylion:


#your mumu no be here.

I can see you wish to argue nonsensically this morning but no worry I dey fast today. I dey prepare my belle for the ram meat coming my way today in overload do make I save my energy for the battle of the meats.

You have a pass for today.

you sef, you like to insult.

JackBizzle:



This guy is just here to troll.


Here are the facts.

1. Circumcision is older than the bible.

2. Male circumcision has more benefits than disadvantages. That extra skin carries extra health problems.

3. However, there is a human rights debate-- shouldnt the child have rights over his body?

Jumbo dumbo go and fix your road rash and get circumcised.

I do not think you have children. If you do then I do not think you love them.

If as an adult you know without a doubt what would keep your children alive and make them more comfortable and dignified would you deny them that simply because you want them to decide by themselves much later in life when perhaps by then the damage would have been done?

Read this testimonies from those who have actually taken the cut.

http://www.circinfo.net/men_circumcised_as_adults_tell_it_as_it_is.html

Regarding circumcision and the Bible, scroll up and read my comments about that.

Did you build a world class medical research centre for the ancients? Yet they knew what science just discovered.

If you are yet to get the snip go and do so and dignify yourself for your future wife.

Proudgorgeousga:


you sef, you like to insult.

He is a mumu. I did not insult him. Only a mumu would want to force an argument from one who isn't in that mood obviously. Such an interesting thread and he could not make any positive contribution except the God angle which we already cemented.

The guy mumu don do joor

butterflylion:


Jumbo dumbo go and fix your road rash and get circumcised.

I do not think you have children. If you do then I do not think you love them.

If as an adult you know without a doubt what would keep your children alive and make them more comfortable and dignified would you deny them that simply because you want them to decide by themselves much later in life when perhaps by then the damage would have been done?

Read this testimonies from those who have actually taken the cut.

http://www.circinfo.net/men_circumcised_as_adults_tell_it_as_it_is.html

Regarding circumcision and the Bible, scroll up and read my comments about that.

Did you build a world class medical research centre for the ancients? Yet they knew what science just discovered.

If you are yet to get the snip go and do so and dignify yourself for your future wife.

Wow, thanks for this article. A lot to learn.

I think the people fighting against circumcision are doing so not becos of health reasons but because it's God's ordained command. For crying out loud, why won't a boy be circumcised?

I don't know how an adult peni.s look like with the foreskin. Am sure it's urgly.

701ecilana:

Wow, thanks for this article. A lot to learn.

I think the people fighting against circumcision are doing so not becos of health reasons but because it's God's ordained command. For crying out loud, why won't a boy be circumcised?

I don't know how an adult peni.s look like with the foreskin. Am sure it's urgly.

Wow, thanks for this post.

I think the people fighting against slavery are doing so not becos of sensible reasons but because it's Yahweh's ordained.

701ecilana:

Wow, thanks for this article. A lot to learn.

I think the people fighting against circumcision are doing so not becos of health reasons but because it's God's ordained command. For crying out loud, why won't a boy be circumcised?

I don't know how an adult peni.s look like with the foreskin. Am sure it's urgly.

Thank you jare sissy to gbaski! Don't mind that one who does not know the difference between slavery and wilful submission. Even in todays world we are all slaves to something.

The bible says to what you submit to you become a slave to that thing.

People are slaves to businesses, jobs, employers, ideas, slaves to their children, children to their parents, children to their education, etc

And he thinks slavery has not always been a part of us.



When person begin dey laugh when his boss insult am just because he knows he would get paid something at the end of the month is that not slavery re-branded as a job?

When person dey willingly clean shiiiit from gutter just to be paid peanuts by an uncaring employer is that not slavery re-branded as a job?

The list is endless. Ignore that one joor. Na God be their headache and na the same God dem no fit leave even with all the headache.

butterflylion:



Thank you jare sissy to gbaski! Don't mind that one who does not know the difference between slavery and wilful submission. Even in todays world we are all slaves to something.

The bible says to what you submit to you become a slave to that thing.

People are slaves to businesses, jobs, employers, ideas, slaves to their children, children to their parents, children to their education, etc

And he thinks slavery has not always been a part of us.



When person begin dey laugh when his boss insult am just because he knows he would get paid something at the end of the month is that not slavery re-branded as a job?

When person dey willingly clean shiiiit from gutter just to be paid peanuts by an uncaring employer is that not slavery re-branded as a job?

The list is endless. Ignore that one joor. Na God be their headache and na the same God dem no fit leave even with all the headache.

There's nothing godly satan won't fight against, even when it's beneficial to man,

701ecilana:

There's nothing godly satan won't fight against, even when it's beneficial to man,

why then are you fighting against slavery? or do you endorse it like your god did?