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Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by butterflylion: 11:02am On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana the guy no even understand Wetin he dey talk again ![]() If only sense would fall on him, he would know that my comment above has bailed any other angle he may come with. ![]() But na lie! Even a dying dog has to seek anything to bite. ![]() He does not know that slavery can never be abolished in a billion quadrillion years but the inhuman treatment attached to it can be abolished. Na God wey no dey exist only he dey see so the non existing one is blinding his eyes from reasoning. 1 Like |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by 701ecilana: 11:07am On Sep 01, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:When I was a Child, anytime i misbehaved there's an expression my Dad always used to chide me, he'd say 'BE SILLY BUT NOT ALWAYS'. Let me use it on you now, Hopefullandlord, be silly but not always. But if you want to keep being always silly, good riddance. God did not ordain slavery. Infact, God never created man to rule over another man. Even Eve was never meant to be under her husband, the Fall put her there as a consequence for her action. Let us create man in our image and let THEM HAVE DOMINION. Not let him have dominion. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Genesis:1:27 And God blessed them, and God said unto them Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Genesis:1:28 If you have a passage of the Bible where Yahweh commanded his people to take slaves, pls present them here. |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by dalaman: 11:14am On Sep 01, 2017 |
butterflylion: Seriously did you reason this pile of hot thrash out or were you so much in a hurry to sound stupid and display you mumu credentials for all to see? What are you even suggesting here? That circumcision protects people from HIV and AIDS better than condom or what? Do circumcised people not get infected with HIV if they engage in unprotected sex? What are you even saying? I tire for your mumurity ooo. |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by butterflylion: 11:18am On Sep 01, 2017 |
dalaman: When a man is openly displaying his stupidity on a public forum without applying brake. That one na confirmed arindin. ![]() Do you know what the foreskin is and how it acts against the penis? Do you know that it is easier to rip than the actual muscle which a penis is made from under the foreskin? Do you realise that it is difficult for a condom to stay on an uncircumcised penis because of the gap that already exists between the foreskin and the actual penis under it? Dalaman #your mumu don do. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by hopefulLandlord: 11:19am On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana: now I'm being silly? really? you just pulled a strawman by asking for where Yahweh commanded people to take slaves whereas what I said was that your Yahweh endorsed slavery you didn't read where your Bible endorsed slavery? and now what me to start presenting them to you? this is funny ![]() yahweh condoned selling oneself and selling one’s daughter into slavery. It also condoned slavery as a punishment for not being able to pay a debt. Prisoners of war were also subjected to slavery if they were not killed outright. Non-Jews and possibly Jewish women were slaves for life, and while parts of the bible said that Jewish males were to be set free every seven years with compensation for their labor, the later prophets made it clear that the people ignored this, and the bible also provided a way for a slave owner to make a freed slave his slave for life by providing a wife and family for him and making him choose between his personal freedom and his wife and children. The children of foreign slaves were born into slavery and were slaves for life. Slaves could be beaten to death, provided they lingered a couple of days before dying and the owner would escape punishment. meanwhile he never condemned it anywhere in the Bible not even when he came as himself in Jesus but could oy tell them to keep obeying their masters in fear and trembling Exodus 21:7-11 Exodus 21:2-6 Leviticus 25:44-46 Exodus 21:7-11 Exodus 21:20-21 Ephesians 6:5 1 Timothy 6:1-2 Luke 12:47-48 I'll give you a friendly advice by telling you to simply back out now cuz I'm almost 100% sure you're out of your depth at this and you'll only wish you hadn't started as the discussion progresses ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by dalaman: 11:23am On Sep 01, 2017 |
butterflylion: Where in the bible does it say that the ancients knew all the scientific benefits of circumcision? What were the health benefits of circumcision as stated by the bible? What was the reason for circumcision as stated by the bible? Was any health benefit stated as the reason according to the bible? Why were people circumcised according to the bible? Was it for the health benefits or because to differentiate them from others and seal some elusive covenant with Yahweh? |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by butterflylion: 11:33am On Sep 01, 2017 |
Since they wish to derail a thread opened for them make I help them do am to the fullest ![]() Hebrews 10:1 The old system under the law (old testament) was only a shadow, a dim preview of the good things to come, not the good things themselves. What are the good things now according to Jesus Mathew 10: 28 to 31 28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” 29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[c] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[d] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[e] There is no commandment greater than these. And let me add at the bottom here. There is no commandment greater than these including your thoughts about slavery. ![]() 701ecilana ignore that one. Ignorance kills faster than a bullet and it is killing them daily which is why they seek life in the same God who does not exist. ![]() |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by dalaman: 11:37am On Sep 01, 2017 |
butterflylion: Uncircumcised men can use condoms effectively once they are taught how to use it properly by including few extra steps in the process of putting on a condom. once they learn this getting it on will be easy and carefree. So what exactly are you talking about again? |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by 701ecilana: 11:39am On Sep 01, 2017 |
butterflylion:Ignoremoodactivated ![]() |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by 701ecilana: 11:45am On Sep 01, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Before i take my brother's advice and ignore you, let me say this, if i take you down those scriptures you posted here, you'd remain naked. Stripped with nothing to hold unto. But hey, i take advice when it's given, so i'll ignore you. Keep being silly and quoting from a fairytale book about a God who doesn't exists but endorses Slavery for living people. |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by 701ecilana: 11:47am On Sep 01, 2017 |
butterflylion:I just took your advice and left him be. I would have asked him how a none existing Yahweh endorsed slavery for living people. 1 Like |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by hopefulLandlord: 11:49am On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana: you're free to back out while pretending you're taking the advice of someone I don't even regard enough to have a conversation with you can always dodge, its allowed ![]() ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by hopefulLandlord: 11:50am On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana: this bait and switch tactic of yours again? ![]() hide under existence arguments when you have nothing else to defend yourself with, its allowed ![]() |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by 701ecilana: 11:52am On Sep 01, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:And slavery is beneficial to man in what way? |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by dalaman: 11:55am On Sep 01, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: The guy don beg you tire for attention but you no gree give am? The other day he was yelling come let us debate, come let us debate like a Sallah ram that is about to be killed, you didn't even look his way. Now he is still shadow boxing himself and trying to irritate you like a noisy mosquito without you even wanting to know that he is there. It must really be painful for him. Baba you wicked. ![]() ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by JackBizzle: 11:56am On Sep 01, 2017 |
butterflylion: Shows how dull you are. From my comment you should know that i am not against circumcision 1 Like |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by hopefulLandlord: 11:59am On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana: follow the discussion, certain atheists endorse circumcision on this thread and certain ones did not in the post I quoted when I made the post you just quoted you said you think those that are against it are doing so because your god endorsed it my reply is simply to show you that's not the case as there are things your god endorses eg slavery which most atheists are against and there are many things your god endorses that most atheists also endorse its simply a subtle way of saying those that are against circumcision are doing it regardless of any god your next post is to call me silly and tell me to show how Yahweh endorsed slavery which I simply did and you backed out like I advised you to 1 Like |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by butterflylion: 12:02pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana: No need for that. Let them continue being delusional by demanding equity from a God they say does not exist. ![]() It's like me going out to fight daily with a brick layer or an electrician over a house they never built for me and I do not have simply because In my delusion I believe they built me a house or that I own one when in reality my house does not exist. ![]() ![]() I tire men! 1 Like |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by Humanistme: 12:02pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: she just couldn't resist the urge to quote you ![]() |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by butterflylion: 12:08pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
JackBizzle: Yes I can see you are in support but couldn't resist the urge to still hammer some sense into your jumbo dumbo persona ![]() Na the work we dey do. |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by 701ecilana: 12:13pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:I have nothing to defend myself with? Are you for real? Wait!!!!?, i hear you guys are double standard, is this it? One day God doesn't exists, the next, he does but wicked. He endorses slavery, and kills women and children For you and i to have any meaning discussions on this matter at anytime, we must established the existence or none of it of God, without which, i will also sound insane. Guy, This could be signs of schizophrenia 1 Like |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by 701ecilana: 12:19pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Hopefullandlord go on priding yourself about whatever. You can't have a discussion with him because you know you can't handle him. Lol, you do not realize that people read what we type here? They do, so pls just keep padding yourself on the back while you live in delusion. As for me, i held you up in a thread just like this, I remember very well, you ran, scrambled like a mouse to hole. If you want us to do again again. Do you want a rematch? Am game. 1 Like |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by butterflylion: 12:20pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana:
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Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by butterflylion: 12:24pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana: I have begged the arindin to prove his logical reasoning by engaging me in a one on one debate. I gave him these conditions 1. HE SHOULD STATE THE TERMS OF THE DEBATE 2. HE SHOULD CHOOSE THE TOPIC OF DEBATE 3. HE SHOULD GIVE ME A SHOUT WHEN HE DOES. the debate would be totally to his advantage especially with the terms I gave him. But even with an advantage he cannot dare to debate me. ![]() But he can roam all over Nairaland targeting his victims. But when he is targeted he begins ignoring the person ![]() Well my offer is still open for him to boldly accept if he dares. ![]() |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by Humanistme: 12:24pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana: https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/positive-symptoms-of-schizophrenia-the-psychotic-dimension/ this article here explained symptoms of schizophrenia. it will be helpful to both you and hopefullandlord ![]() |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by 701ecilana: 12:29pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
Humanistme:Wait, let me recall. I think i clicked the everlasting ignoremood key pad for you that last time. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by hopefulLandlord: 12:29pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana: you've asked me this question before and I made it clear that Yahweh does not exist, the word "God" however is still something that I can't say it exists or not that does not mean we can't discuss the bible either from a fictional basis (atheist's view) or from nonfictional basis (Christian view), either way the book is right there and can be discussed just like I can discuss the myths and I don't think I've called your god wicked and even if some atheists do, that doesn't mean they're admitting your imaginary friend exists but rather saying your imaginary friend has no basis in reality and looks more like a god invented by men and not the other way around anyways backing out is allowed ![]() but let me ask, you've been discussing with atheists for years now, were you thinking they believe your god exists and are discussing it like its existence was a forgone conclusion and you just had an eureka moment recently? or you're just seeking refuge under its existence when your points are stripped bare? 2 Likes |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by butterflylion: 12:30pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
Humanistme: Only someone who does not understand definition would run to an article. schizophrenia noun a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behaviour, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation. Constantly talking about and being angry at a non existent being is a sign of withdrawal from reality and personal relationships and a foray into fantasy and delusion and a sense of mental fragmentation. Staying up at odd hours of the day to deliberately insult and ridicule this non existent God is a sign of a mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behaviour, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings. Schizophrenia on point ![]() 1 Like |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by 701ecilana: 12:32pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
butterflylion:He can not. I have known him long enough to know he can't. One they are good at is trolling. Just calm down and hold them, they'll wriggle off like marecats. |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by hopefulLandlord: 12:38pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana: how did I run? 1. I said your god is bipolar because he said thou shalt not kill but commanded killing of infants in the same book 2. you challenged that and said you want to discuss it 3. you then asked me if the god of the bible exists 4. I said NO! 5. YOU then spent the rest of the thread hiding under existence arguments and ignored the topic that brought the discussion 6. I kept clarifying it for you that all we we're discussing is in the Bible and the character's existence is inconsequential 7. you kept going back and forth and even asked what anthropomorphism means, I gave it and you still ran back to the first discussion isn't what happened on that thread similar to what you just did on this thread? its obvious to the readers who's hiding here 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by butterflylion: 12:39pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana: Wait o. So na so he dey dodge debates? ![]() Ahhh abajo.... No wonder. ![]() ![]() |
Re: As An Atheist Would You Circumcise Your Male Children? by Humanistme: 12:41pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
701ecilana: if you were really ignoring me you won't reply this post. you just couldn't resist my dear Mrs born again ![]() |
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