johnw74:

the only thing i am defending here is the Bible,
you said stop defending what you don't know

perhaps your words are sometimes confused, i can believe that

You are truly confused, sorry.

What I meant is, you don't know the parables of the Bible as it relates to the functioning of the pineal gland.

i can also believe that the Bible does not make plain sense to you

Check the meaning of parables.
It must be interpreted to get the meaning, else it is not a plain saying with plain sense.

You are truly confused, just stick to believing, it is better than trying to wrap your mind around certain truths, just to know.

menxer:


So people don't live pious lives outside the monastery?
GO Adeboye must hear this.

@bolded, that assumes you are the gate man that neither enters nor suffers anyone else to enter Eden?

What I intend to accomplish (which I have), is to create awareness about the potentials of having a blooming pineal gland as a precursor to a vibrant spiritual enlightenment.

only in your own mind

johnw74:


the Bible certinally is one of my comfort zones,
the holy spirit is another, i understand how the Bible is not a comfort zone of yours

haha, there is no better spiritual reality than God's word
most of what you say is just mere words from your own mind

And you are so certain about that?

Hahahahahahahahaha
HahaHahahahahahahaha

So in your mind, the whole of what God is is contained in the Bible?

Yes, you can sleep in you comfort zone, but others are awake to explore and experience the worlds.
I am one.

menxer:

You are truly confused, sorry.

What I meant is, you don't know the parables of the Bible as it relates to the functioning of the pineal gland.




Check the meaning of parables.
It must be interpreted to get the meaning, else it is not a plain saying with plain sense.

You are truly confused, just stick to believing, it is better than trying to wrap your mind around certain truths, just to know.

@bold, what we have here is yet another copy cat
parroting back in lies to me, what i said in truth to you

your saying it twice in a very short post is telling, don't you think, sorry ha

johnw74:


perhaps your words are sometimes confused, i can believe that

johnw74:

so you say the eye, vision, sight, is referring to a spiritual vision,
then you are referring to the mind and not a mystical third eye

a vision is something that one sees in the mind

So where or what is the mind? if I may ask.

Mystical according to Merriam-Webster, is:

1a : having a spiritual meaning or reality that is neither apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence the mystical food of the sacramentb : involving or having the nature of an individual's direct subjective communion with God or ultimate reality the mystical experience of the Inner Light.

@ bolded, I sincerely want to believe that is not your reason for being a Christian.

menxer:

And you are so certain about that?

Hahahahahahahahaha
HahaHahahahahahahaha

So in your mind, the whole of what God is is contained in the Bible?

Yes, you can sleep in you comfort zone, but others are awake to explore and experience the worlds.
I am one.

all of those ha ha's seem a bit hysterical

@bold, you accuse of things i never said,


just referring to Jesus alone:

Joh_21:25  And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Dohgon:



How do we see things? or What is the process of seeing?

The universe is much more than visible Light.
Most people believe that seeing is an interpritation of Light that enters in the brain through the Eyes.
In fact, human Eyes can only interpret a small percentage of Light.

Seeing is also associated with Understanding so when someone says that "I see", it means they understand information from all 5 Senses.

The Pineal Gland is an energy receptor that feeds information to the brain independent of the 5 senses. For instance, the Dogon people of Mali used their 3rd eye sense to recieve information about the universe that scientists are only now seeing with telescopes.

correct i couldn't have said it more better religion itself is a cage you need to look beyond that man made construct just be open minded never conclude that you know it all and i bet you you would be be suprised of how ignorant you have been about your own capabilities and potentials there are so many things hidden and left untapped waiting to be discovered and when you unveil them them you are gonna become a God

johnw74:


@bold, what we have here is yet another copy cat
parroting back in lies to me, what i said in truth to you

your saying it twice in a very short post is telling, don't you think, sorry ha

Have you noticed you are tilting more towards trivialities.

There is no point exchanging insults, sit tight in your comfort zone but remember the parable of the prodigal with emphasis on the stay-at-home son.

Thanks for you time.

johnw74:


all of those ha ha's seem a bit hysterical

@bold, you accuse of things i never said,


just referring to Jesus alone:

Joh_21:25  And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

If that is true why are you so opposed to the discovery of the pineal gland as a source of spiritual enlightenment?

menxer:

So where or what is the mind? if I may ask.

Mystical according to Merriam-Webster, is:

1a : having a spiritual meaning or reality that is neither apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence the mystical food of the sacramentb : involving or having the nature of an individual's direct subjective communion with God or ultimate reality the mystical experience of the Inner Light.

@ bolded, I sincerely want to believe that is not your reason for being a Christian.

stop with the bull if possible


the mind is the spirit, you didn't know that
it's what returns to God when our flesh bodies die

God's spirit-mind joins a Christians human spirit-mind
and resides with him

spirit-mind can also have a spirit body

just a little because you don't know, i would post scriptures
but i'm sure you can look them up yourself

majority of the pastorpreneurs around you has a well opened and functioning pineal gland wat they do you too can do just be open minded

johnw74:



stop with the bull if possible


the mind is the spirit, you didn't know that
it's what returns to God when our flesh bodies die

God's spirit-mind joins a Christians human spirit-mind
and resides with him

spirit-mind can also have a spirit body

just a little because you don't know, i would post scriptures
but i'm sure you can look them up yourself

That's what your pastor fed you.

Let me help you, God's spirit-mind and human spirit - mind, as you term, is Consciousness.

Check this thread,
https://www.nairaland.com/4023047/consciousness

menxer:

Have you noticed you are tilting more towards trivialities.

There is no point exchanging insults, sit tight in your comfort zone but remember the parable of the prodigal with emphasis on the stay-at-home son.

Thanks for you time.

if you think the parroting-lying, is trivial

menxer:

That's what your pastor fed you.

no, but you are falsely accusing-lying more and more as time goes on
luke warmers or so called christians, soon show their colors

menxer:

Let me help you, God's spirit-mind and human spirit - mind, as you term, is Consciousness.

Check this thread,
https://www.nairaland.com/4023047/consciousness

ha, a spirit-mind is either conscious or asleep

referring to those spirits-minds asleep in Christ;

1Th_4:13  But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

johnw74:


no, but you are falsely accusing-lying more and more as time goes on
luke warmers or so called christians, soon show their colors



ha, a spirit-mind is either conscious or asleep

referring to those spirits-minds asleep in Christ;

1Th_4:13  But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

bro never conclude that what you have known all your life is the truth be open minded and willing to learn and i belive you have a brain to reason and think but be open minded

menxer:

If that is true why are you so opposed to the discovery of the pineal gland as a source of spiritual enlightenment?

try to follow what's going on here, for the third time, i don't care about your
pineal gland, third eye theory

when you wrongly use the Bible to support your un Bibical belief i will show you up
for as long as i'm watching this thread that is

richardbrandy:
bro never conclude that what you have known all your life is the truth be open minded and willing to learn and i belive you have a brain to reason and think but be open minded

truly spirit-mind is not conciousness
a spirit-mind can be conscious or asleep

spirit-mind is also life, when God takes back the spirit-mind that He gave us, we die
ask for the scriptures if you can't find them

johnw74:


truly spirit-mind is not conciousness
a spirit-mind can be conscious or asleep

spirit-mind is also life, when God takes back the spirit-mind that He gave us, we die
ask for the scriptures if you can't find them

i think i will pass thanks anyway

johnw74:


no, but you are falsely accusing-lying more and more as time goes on
luke warmers or so called christians, soon show their colors

ha, a spirit-mind is either conscious or asleep

referring to those spirits-minds asleep in Christ;

1Th_4:13  But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

No.

The problem is you are bent on defending the status quo of what you believe with no room for new knowledge of transformation.

Christ is the man whose pineal gland has attained full bloom.

Now that is a parable, "asleep" as in how?
is it asleep as in physical death, or asleep as in the calcified pineal gland?

johnw74:


try to follow what's going on here, for the third time, i don't care about your
pineal gland, third eye theory

when you wrongly use the Bible to support your un Bibical belief i will show you up
for as long as i'm watching this thread that is

That sounds like you have taken over the work of the pharisees and sadducees.

For your info, the world as you know it is passing away.

As for pineal gland, it won't bloom if you don't or won't do anything about it, though it is in you, your hope of glory.

Besides We, with the help of science, have identified that the physical door way to the kingdom of God within you, which Jesus spoke about, is the pineal gland, yet you are showing us that you are the incarnation of the sadducees?
It is a tedious job, but it must do done, thank you for fitting that mould and making yourself available.

richardbrandy:
bro never conclude that what you have known all your life is the truth be open minded and willing to learn and i belive you have a brain to reason and think but be open minded

What is the definition of being brain washed?

richardbrandy:
majority of the pastorpreneurs around you has a well opened and functioning pineal gland wat they do you too can do just be open minded

That is the secret that has been hidden for ages but now is revealed. Though many are finding it difficult to accept or believe they have and the ability to commune with "God" independent of outside influence.

Mujtahida:

Don't mind those opposing you. The truth is that all spiritual experiences so called are really brain works. Scientists have been able to induce spiritual experiences by activating certain parts of the brain.

And why do you bother with the Bible. It's a book full of light and darkness and much darkness. That's why Christianity lacks spiritual vibe

Glad you understand me.

menxer:

What is the definition of being brain washed?

am sure you have the answer to this question namaste

menxer:

No.

The problem is you are bent on defending the status quo of what you believe with no room for new knowledge of transformation.

Christ is the man whose pineal gland has attained full bloom.

Now that is a parable, "asleep" as in how?
is it asleep as in physical death, or asleep as in the calcified pineal gland?

the verse is not a parable but is literal, and you can not even see that

those in heaven, their bodys are on earth decaying
asleep obviously talks of their spirits

this is simple basic stuff, and you don't know it

menxer:


That sounds like you have taken over the work of the pharisees and sadducees.

For your info, the world as you know it is passing away.

As for pineal gland, it won't bloom if you don't or won't do anything about it, though it is in you, your hope of glory.

Besides We, with the help of science, have identified that the physical door way to the kingdom of God within you, which Jesus spoke about, is the pineal gland, yet you are showing us that you are the incarnation of the sadducees?
It is a tedious job, but it must do done, thank you for fitting that mould and making yourself available.

because you have nothing you continue to talk lies

the pharisees and other, knew the Bible about as well as you do

they even though that the spirit in Jesus was the spirit of satan

Mujtahida:

Don't mind those opposing you. The truth is that all spiritual experiences so called are really brain works. Scientists have been able to induce spiritual experiences by activating certain parts of the brain.

And why do you bother with the Bible. It's a book full of light and darkness and much darkness. That's why Christianity lacks spiritual vibe

menxer:

Glad you understand me.

glad to see that you menexer are not christian and don't believe the Bible
and yet you use it, such are the blinded and hypocrites

menxer:

@bolded, I made no such claim

Naaa, we aren't on the same page of knowing.

At least I know a little about the functions of the pineal gland in achieving spiritual enlightenment.

The Bible does not make plain sense else it wouldn't be written in parables.

please tell us a little of your spiritual enlightenment,
so far you have shown no spirituality, or enlightenment

menxer:


So people don't live pious lives outside the monastery?
GO Adeboye must hear this.

@bolded, that assumes you are the gate man that neither enters nor suffers anyone else to enter Eden?

What I intend to accomplish (which I have), is to create awareness about the potentials of having a blooming pineal gland as a precursor to a vibrant spiritual enlightenment.

how about showing us some of that vibrant spiritual enlightenment
and knowledge from your third eye
come on menxer, tell us things we don't know, tell us the things you see

johnw74:


please tell us a little of your spiritual enlightenment,
so far you have shown no spirituality, or enlightenment

how about showing us some of that vibrant spiritual enlightenment
and knowledge from your third eye
come on menxer, tell us things we don't know, tell us the things you see

The things of the spirit are discerned spiritually.
if having read my threads you discern no enlightenment, that only proves your lack of spiritual discernment.

johnw74:


glad to see that you menexer are not christian and don't believe the Bible and yet you use it, such are the blinded and hypocrites

The Bible was not written by "Christians," at least most of it.

And the Bible is just a piece of a giant puzzle.

Who can be more blinded and hypocritical than you, who denies the role of the pineal gland in spiritual enlightenment?

johnw74:


because you have nothing you continue to talk lies

the pharisees and other, knew the Bible about as well as you do
they even though that the spirit in Jesus was the spirit of satan

@bolded, And how is that different from what you are saying about me?

Let us be logical people. Let us not pretend to know the true essence of the Spirit but at the same time let us not be dunb followers of words written by Men, especially men who had no knowledge of Anathomy. All they knew was the "behavior" they witnessed everyday in the nature of man which they used to form (moral) guidelines to prevent kaos.

This is the essence of the Bible and it is why the Bible should never be discounted by wise men. If you say to yourself that a God doesnt exist then where is the power in scripture? (The power is in mind control through fear by lack of knowledge and through natural Desire) Religion is failing because preachers are using the scriptures to explain what it cant instead of what it can. They need to stick to (human nature) and stop trying to explain the science and the universe.

Observe every church and preacher. Some use tricks but the good ones use Desire manipulation. Who doesnt want to have a good life, money, prosperity, good health? These are the things that preachers dwell on which are all products of human Desire since wise men started observing their neighbors. Everything is (Proverbs) is true of human nature but it was the Spirit of Conscence that revealed it. Wisdom is 3rd eye consciousness.

menxer:

The things of the spirit are discerned spiritually.
if having read my threads you discern no enlightenment, that only proves your lack of spiritual discernment.

ha ha, once again show me the spiritual enlightement you have posted
give a link to it

menxer:

The Bible was not written by "Christians," at least most of it.

And the Bible is just a piece of a giant puzzle.

Who can be more blinded and hypocritical than you, who denies the role of the pineal gland in spiritual enlightenment?

you sure are duh, the Bible was written by inspired men of God:

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

@underline, you are still copy catting, parroting what i said, but in lies

menxer:

@bolded, And how is that different from what you are saying about me?

duh, you are not Jesus, He didn't wrongly use the scriptures as the pharisees and you do

johnw74:


ha ha, once again show me the spiritual enlightement you have posted
give a link to it

you sure are duh, the Bible was written by inspired men of God:

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

@underline, you are still copy catting, parroting what i said, but in lies

duh, you are not Jesus, He didn't wrongly use the scriptures as the pharisees and you do

What's your definition of "inspired men of God?"

Yes, "Jesus" didn't interpret the scriptures wrongly but differently from what the pharisees and sadducees were used to and comfortable with, which is exactly the same scenario here.

Asking for a link to my post on spiritual enlightenment, when you are already on it, is telling of how closed minded you have chosen to be.