TrueHeart365:


I don't expect Henry240 to call you to order since you both share the same mentality, but please try to behave Augustine.

It's been years and you are still acting like this?

How many countries in Africa own frigates? Which of them is our Chinese OPV more sophisticated than?

Na NORTH KOREA fit people like you, delusional patriots

Try to bring up facts bro, not this rubbish you keep displaying here.

Our tucanos (if the deal will sail through) will not change anything with France still militarily controlling much of our neighbors we share borders with and please grow some sense and stop the Africa as a whole thing, we both love our country but you seem to be out of touch with reality. Behave man

is he agagust?

barka de sallah to the Algerian in here. hope your relatives, as i know you are an atheist like me, killed a ram?

MiddleDimension:


is he agagust?

covert and supremecourt are the same.

anyone who has known augugust since the thread wars (which i am a veteran ) will see the similarities.

i don't have anything against patriotism, but this one is waaaayyyyy overboard.

TrueHeart365:


I don't expect Henry240 to call you to order since you both share the same mentality, but please try to behave Augustine.

It's been Behave man

You don't have to be silly, guy.

TrueHeart365:


covert and supremecourt are the same.

anyone who has known augugust since the thread wars (which i am a veteran ) will see the similarities.

i don't have anything against patriotism, but this one is waaaayyyyy overboard.

you are sure you are a veteran? why dont i know you?

TrueHeart365:


I don't expect Henry240 to call you to order since you both share the same mentality, but please try to behave Augustine.

It's been years and you are still acting like this?

How many countries in Africa own frigates? Which of them is our Chinese OPV more sophisticated than?

Na NORTH KOREA fit people like you, delusional patriots

Try to bring up facts bro, not this rubbish you keep displaying here.

Our tucanos (if the deal will sail through) will not change anything with France still militarily controlling much of our neighbors we share borders with and please grow some sense and stop the Africa as a whole thing, we both love our country but you seem to be out of touch with reality. Behave man

pouring valuable water on rock bro...

lucky baztard

You all should calm down.


It's no news that the Nigerian navy is good but lacks the ability to launch an offensive against a well equipped navy like SA, Morocco, Egypt and Algeria.

We're only living in the past glory and capability of the Nigerian Navy. The only good thing now is that by the time we decide to procure frigates and corvettes and missile boats, we will have a very formidable larger fleet with our existing fleet. That's just the advantage . How many African countries has a very great list of OPV. NNS unity, NNS CENTENARY, NNS THUNDER, and many more.

That SSV, from Indonesia and we getting at least two corvettes and a frigates with some two more missile boats then we will be really formidable.

Our OPV can just destroy incoming missiles with their 76mm.


So a submarine + 1-3 frigate + 2 well armed corvette and missile boats + rearming our combatant class. Then we will be strong enough.

In terms of man power, our naval guys are good but they seriously lack those naval toys.

Henry240:

You don't have to be silly, guy.

Na bro, you already hold that position strong.

Call your guy to order.

tdayof:
You all should calm down.


It's no news that the Nigerian navy is good but lacks the ability to launch an offensive against a well equipped navy like SA, Morocco, Egypt and Algeria.

We're only living in the past glory and capability of the Nigerian Navy. The only good thing now is that by the time we decide to procure frigates and corvettes and missile boats, we will have a very formidable larger fleet with our existing fleet. That's just the advantage . How many African countries has a very great list of OPV. NNS unity, NNS CENTENARY, NNS THUNDER, and many more.

That SSV, from Indonesia and we getting at least two corvettes and a frigates with some two more missile boats then we will be really formidable.

Our OPV can just destroy incoming missiles with their 76mm.


So a submarine + 1-3 frigate + 2 well armed corvette and missile boats + rearming our combatant class. Then we will be strong enough.

In terms of man power, our naval guys are good but they seriously lack those naval toys.

no offense chief but I have a problem with the bolded.
How can A 76mm naval gun destroy an incoming missile please explain I'll love to learn new wonderful things today...

MiddleDimension:


you are sure you are a veteran? why dont i know you?

The account was banned till 2060

lionel4power:

no offense chief but I have a problem with the bolded.
How can A 76mm naval gun destroy an incoming missile please explain I'll love to learn new wonderful things today...

OTO MELERA has been used to intercept incoming missiles. You can check videos on YouTube.


76MM are being used for anti air warfare. Nemesis4u kindly explain.


There are actually videos on YouTube showing this.

TrueHeart365:


covert and supremecourt are the same.

anyone who has known augugust since the thread wars (which i am a veteran ) will see the similarities.

i don't have anything against patriotism, but this one is waaaayyyyy overboard.

Patriotism is not about bragging rights and invading other countries and it’s not about war mongering either, even if in an alternate reality Nigeria had all it took to divide and conquer Africa, why the Bleep should we ? I mean is that what this thread is now about ?

Covert and his wing man supreme are cocking up this thread and they are doing it with immunity.

we have to understand that theres no law on earth forcing us to acquire military weapon systems or platforms if we dont need it or deem it worthy to have. The fact that SA or Egypt or Algeria owns or operate better armanment than us doesn't mean we should come here and fabrication ludicrous claims on our invincibility or the grandiosity of our militaries technological dexterity.

Nobody is a fool here.

I have seen the most outlandish claim right here on this forum than anywhere else on the internet.

instead of pulling 'alleged facts' out of a magicians hat we could argue more on the merits of what we own and how we utilize what we own.

some people here make claims that can baffle the devil himself.

tdayof:
You all should calm down.


It's no news that the Nigerian navy is good but lacks the ability to launch an offensive against a well equipped navy like SA, Morocco, Egypt and Algeria.

We're only living in the past glory and capability of the Nigerian Navy. The only good thing now is that by the time we decide to procure frigates and corvettes and missile boats, we will have a very formidable larger fleet with our existing fleet. That's just the advantage . How many African countries has a very great list of OPV. NNS unity, NNS CENTENARY, NNS THUNDER, and many more.

That SSV, from Indonesia and we getting at least two corvettes and a frigates with some two more missile boats then we will be really formidable.

Our OPV can just destroy incoming missiles with their 76mm.

So a submarine + 1-3 frigate + 2 well armed corvette and missile boats + rearming our combatant class. Then we will be strong enough.

In terms of man power, our naval guys are good but they seriously lack those naval toys.

Uhm..........Your OPVs don't have Strales system or DART ammo so how are they going to shoot down a missile?? even if they did, it would still be much less effective than a proper CIWS.

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MiddleDimension:
barka de sallah to the Algerian in here. hope your relatives, as i know you are an atheist like me, killed a ram?

barka de sallah and happy aid to you too and all nigerians , yes my family killed a ram ! meat meat (breakfast meat, lunch meat , dinner meat ) for 72h



pic live from our kitchen , my favorite dish for aid , the Melfouf pieces of liver wrap in caul fat

tdayof:



OTO MELERA has been used to intercept incoming missiles. You can check videos on YouTube.


76MM are being used for anti air warfare. Nemesis4u kindly explain.


There are actually videos on YouTube showing this.

in theory... but that probably manufacturers claim because the amounts of computational capability needed to track a supersonic maneuvering and small projectiles like a missiles is mind boggling. The algorithms would be astronomical.

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its difficult hitting a missile with another missile not to talk of a large gun with a remarkably slower rate of fire or RPM like a 76 mm.

Its a next to nothing probability of success. thats why close-in weapon systems were invented with higher RPM and smaller caliber.

before the gun turret turn once the missiles would have probably turn 16 times..

jln115:

Uhm..........Your OPVs don't have Strales system or DART ammo so how are they going to shoot down a missile?? even if they did, it would still be much less effective than a proper CIWS.

THE Nigerian navy ship NNS unity and centenary are armed for anti air warfare says the CNS.



Those ships are armed with AK-176 which is the Chinese version of the oto malera version with strales system.

lionel4power:
in theory... but that probably manufacturers claim because the amounts of computational capability needed to track a supersonic maneuvering and small projectiles like a missiles is mind boggling. The algorithms would be astronomical.

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its difficult hitting a missile with another missile not to talk of a large gun with a remarkably slower rate of fire or RPM like a 76 mm.

It ia,a,next to nothing,probability of success. thata why close-in weapon systems were invented,with higher RPM and smaller caliber.

Bro, you type in a paper like description. Because it's NIGERIA you're doubting fact even when you see it.


NNS unity and centenary are armed for anti air warfare.



The AK-176 is a Soviet naval gun mounted in an enclosed turret, that may be used against sea, coastal, and aerial targets, including low flying anti-ship missiles.

lionel4power:
in theory... but that probably manufacturers claim because the amounts of computational capability needed to track a supersonic maneuvering and small projectiles like a missiles is mind boggling. The algorithms would be astronomical.

.
its difficult hitting a missile with another missile not to talk of a large gun with a remarkably slower rate of fire or RPM like a 76 mm.

Its a next to nothing probability of success. thats why close-in weapon systems were invented with higher RPM and smaller caliber.

before the gun turret turn once the missiles would have probably turn 16 times..

Hahahahaha are you being serious now??

This is the most popular medium caliber gun in the world due to the excellent balance of range, firepower and rate of fire offered by most 76 mm guns. The Italian Oto Melara rules this category and has almost no competition. There are several other guns like the Russian Ak-176, Chinese Ak-176 (reverse engineered) which are also used. The best part about the 76 mm Oto is that it can be installed on small corvettes with ease, providing them with a significant amount of firepower. The high rate of fire of 120 rds/min [/b]and the range of 15 km provided by the Oto Melara SRGM makes it the perfect dual-role weapon which can engage surface and aerial targets with equal effectiveness.

STRALES variant of the 76 mm Oto

The more modern variant of the 76 mm Oto is the STRALES version with an integrated fire-control illuminating radar and advanced DART guided ammunition which rides on the radar beam. This allows the gun to engage a fast moving target using only a few shells, which will hit the target with precision. Guided shells allow the target to be successfully engaged with fewer rounds of ammunition. [b]For example, engaging a low flying missile with unguided 76 mm shells would need around 15-20 rounds to be fired at the target whereas only 4-5 guided shells would be needed to do the same job. The main disadvantage is that guided shells are usually significantly more expensive than unguided ones. Hence a mixture of guided and unguided shells are usually preferred, with guided shells used against high-threat targets and unguided shells used against low-threat ones.

TrueHeart365:


Na bro, you already hold that position strong.

Call your guy to order.

You've been noticed, run along.

tdayof:



Hahahahaha are you being serious now??

modern anti ship missiles dont fly in a straight line... you need to watch how countries fire its missiles maybe on youtube or elsewhere because if you do then you'll understand my point.

it is brutal!!!

you naked eyes cant track a mach 3 missile. talkless of a large gun like a 76.

in theory a 76 can only manage to take down anything flying if it lay down an explosive shells,in the path of the oncoming target.

but that depends on the type of missile ( ancients subsonic ones)

tdayof:

The high rate of fire of 120 rds/min  and the range of 15 km provided by the Oto Melara SRGM makes it the perfect dual-role weapon which can engage surface and aerial targets with equal effectiveness.

STRALES variant of the 76 mm Oto

The more modern variant of the 76 mm Oto is the STRALES version with an integrated fire-control illuminating radar and advanced DART guided ammunition which rides on the radar beam. This allows the gun to engage a fast moving target using only a few shells, which will hit the target with precision. Guided shells allow the target to be successfully engaged with fewer rounds of ammunition.

This is a GUIDED shell... so its more of a close In weapon than a shell in theoretical sense..

Henry240:


You've been noticed, run along.

Stop being petty and do the needful when required.

Ur attention is of no value to me so I seeketh it not.

And I requesteth not that you quote me again. Totally unnecessary

Guys pls calm down. I dropped a bomb I see! However I'll not just dismiss the concerns of the guys here. It's fair from them to want to know. For time factor as an agent of the king I'll give this first and we might try understand when possible. I'm impressed with the civility thus far. Would help us more. todayof though has given some insights but I'll explain some of my comments.

1. First "modern and highly sophisticated" doesn't mean more powerful. Still operations from the NNS Unity and Centenary are highly digitized and automated making for ease of naval operations from captain to naval rating. It has a stealth advantage.

2. I'll try find vid of a Danish warship shooting down incoming projectile with it's 76mm gun as proof that these guns are highly versatile. Infact that Danish ship used no missiles in it's simulations.

3. Our stealth OPVs can defend itself. I'll post proof. I write in hurry being about the kings business. Gotta go I'll see u guys.

4. And mostly importantly guys pls try to understand military science. In a war forces are integrated for maximum effect. No one arm of the military goes to war alone. See the North-East Nigeria for reference.

5. No one is invading anyone.

Covert.

lionel4power:
modern anti ship missiles dont fly in a straight line... you need to watch how countries fire its missiles maybe on youtube or elsewhere because if you do then you'll understand my point.

it is brutal!!!

you naked eyes cant track a mach 3 missile. talkless of a large gun like a 76.

in theory a 76 can only manage to take down anything flying if it lay down an explosive shells,in the path of the oncoming target.

but that depends on the type of missile ( ancients subsonic ones)

You don't need a machine 1 anti ship missile to kill a missile flying at mach 1 billion. I hope you know?

lionel4power:

This is a GUIDED shell... so its more of a close In weapon than a shell in theoretical sense..

Why did you edit the post?

For example, engaging a low flying missile with unguided 76 mm shells would need around 15-20 rounds to be fired at the target whereas only 4-5 guided shells would be needed to do the same job

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Covert1:
[s]Guys pls calm down. I dropped a bomb I see! However I'll not just dismiss the concerns of the guys here. It's fair from them to want to know. For time factor as an agent of the king I'll give this first and we might try understand when possible. I'm impressed with the civility thus far. Would help us more. todayof though has given some insights but I'll explain some of my comments.

1. First "modern and highly sophisticated" doesn't mean more powerful. Still operations from the NNS Unity and Centenary are highly digitized and automated making for ease of naval operations from captain to naval rating. It has a stealth advantage.

2. I'll try find vid of a Danish warship shooting down incoming projectile with it's 76mm gun as proof that these guns are highly versatile. Infact that Danish ship used no missiles in it's simulations.

3. Our stealth OPVs can defend itself. I'll post proof. I write in hurry being about the kings business. Gotta go I'll see u guys.

4. And mostly importantly guys pls try to understand military science. In a war forces are integrated for maximum effect. No one arm of the military goes to war alone. See the North-East Nigeria for reference.

5. No one is invading anyone.

Covert.
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First of all, you need to drop this spy nonsense. No one's buying it.

Algerian1:
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barka de sallah and happy aid to you too and all nigerians , yes my family killed a sheep ! meat meat (breakfast meat, lunch meat , dinner meat ) for 72h



pic live from our kitchen , my favorite dish for aid , the Melfouf pieces of liver wrap in fat

للأسف، أنا لا البقاء على مقربة من أصدقائي المسلمين. حتى لا عيد إي كابير اللحوم بالنسبة لي هذا العام

i can pecieve the smell of that ram from this side of my screen.

meanwhile, feed your eyes with pictures from NAF

tdayof:

For example, engaging a low flying missile with unguided 76 mm shells would need around 15-20 rounds to be fired at the target whereas only 4-5 guided shells would be needed to do the same job

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do you know how flak works?
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it works by laying down a string of air burst munitions at the most probably place an aerial target would pass through to achieve a high probability of success.

your 76 mm (unguided) employs such method which can only engage outdated missile.

however note that your source didnt state specifically that it can hit a missile... but it was citing an example. (using the flak method).

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The high rate of fire of 120 rds/min [/b]and the range of 15 km provided by the Oto Melara SRGM makes it the perfect dual-role weapon which can engage surface and aerial targets with equal effectiveness.
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aerial targets could be drones, helicopter, aircraft e.t.c so I'll wait till the manufacturers. announce that they have successful hit a missile with their guns.



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AND BY THE WAY OUR SHIPS ARE ARMED WITH CHINESE COPY