Covert1:


Yes not much details yet but after he returns to London and tables the proposal we should be hearing something in a few weeks. What's clear is it is a concrete request from the Nigerians which includes attack helicopters.

We are waiting just as we've being waiting patiently for the Mig variant.

lionel4power:
I dont really think it would be prudent to add another type of helicopter into the mix... we already operate a,wide range of utility helicopters with similar characteristics.

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I would suggest we just standardizes the fleet instead.

Non-standardization helps with sanctions busting. Nigerias eggs should never be in.one basket.

Algerian army got the super lynx mk-140 , ASuW and ASW versions from UK ,


maybe nigerian army want the same from AgustaWestland (super lynx mk-140 , super lynx mk-130 , EH101 Merlin )

Algerian officers at ARMY-2017 Expo , seing the russian SF buggy ChaBorz M-3 (3 person ) and Chaborz M-6 (6 person) , maybe a futur contract

lionel4power:

the F-50 golden eagle I mentioned has a light fighter version.

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The Gripen is a light fighter same with Tejas.


Lightweight fighters has a disadvantage against medium or heavy weights in combat

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

I think mixing helo categorization with that of fighter.
Anyway please elaborate your statement.

pls generals in the house forgive my ignorance but isnt thete smthing fishy about dis u.s deal and our sudden aquisition of top notch jets just asking pleade enlighten me, am new

medic555:
pls generals in the house forgive my ignorance but isnt thete smthing fishy about dis u.s deal and our sudden aquisition of top notch jets just asking pleade enlighten me, am new

Your not getting any jets bro.............Not from the US anyway!! The JF17s have been in NAFs pipeline for a few years now, so the purchase isn't much of a surprise.

Ok so now that we have established that:

1. The Tucano is the best fighter.........In Africa!

2. NN Unity and Centenary OPVs are the most advanced and powerful warships in africa..........with the most advanced 76mm gun on the planet which is fully capable of anti-ship and anti-air......oh and also functions as a CIWS capable of intercepting any type of missile.

3. Nigeria is the most powerful country in Africa..........BY FAR i might add!!



Here is a few pics of the much much inferior SANDF during Ex Shared Accord:

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nemesis2uagain:
solve this one

variables/parameters

a sea skimming sub sonic missile flying at 5-10 m above sea level will be detected at < 40km due to radio horizon limitations by surveillance radar.

(provided the radar manages to pick it up against clutter / the radar operator manages to isolate it on the radar screen)

the fire control radar to which the AK 176 gun is slaved to has range of 6km for .1m2 RCS target

AK 176 gun derivative has a range of 11-15km with rate of fire of 60-120 rounds per minute
ammo load out 150+

under test conditions AK 176 needed 25 rounds to shoot a AT-2 Swatter ATGM stimulating a subsonic AShM.

(neglect the other guns for the sake of simplicity of solution)

the subsonic missile speed is .9mach ie 1076 km/hr

how much time does the ship has to engage the incoming target at the farthest engagement envelope possible via its sensor ie how many rounds can it fire with reasonable accuracy with the help of fire control radar before impact ?

surveillance radar warning will only help the ship to prepare itself/brace up for battle damage ie all hands on station alert plus simultaneously provide optimal evasive maneuvers, in tandem with best possible decoy launch and defensive weapon fire solutions via CMS .

the task of hard kill will lie on the FCR and the main gun firing PFHE type munitions

and the task of soft kill will lie on the CMS and decoy launchers.


so how many rounds can it get off for highest probability of kill ?

112 rounds

Algerian1:



its a new Helical magazine model for the North Korean copy of the AK-74, the Type 88.

more info : http://armamentresearch.com/north-korean-helical-ak-magazines/


may be they tried to copy the Russian Bizon helical magazine AK

mag doesn't look cool at all

Meanwhile how many rounds. Standard in it

jln115:
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Pic 1. I read somewhere that American troops (who don't have a lot of experience in peacekeeping missions) naturally want to raise their weapons at a protesting crowd. Quite cool that this pic captures that.

Pic 2. Epic pic

Adminisher:


Non-standardization helps with sanctions busting. Nigerias eggs should never be in.one basket.

Non standardization is literally the worst thing you could possibly ever want in your military

Also, why are you so concerned about sanctions?

lionel4power:
I think J-10 is medium weight fighter

Again no such thing as "weight"

This isnt boxing

lionel4power:

the F-50 golden eagle I mentioned has a light fighter version.

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The Gripen is a light fighter same with Tejas.


Lightweight fighters has a disadvantage against medium or heavy weights in combat

No, Gripen and Tejas are Multi-role fighters

FA-50 is light attack, F-50 was a proposed multi-role but was cancelled. Its mainly a bomb-truck.

Su-30, F-18 etc are air-superiority fighters - long range, big sensors, long loiter times.

The only advantage or disadvantage in air-to-air combat is based on sensors, wing-loading, thrust/weight variables.

if your the MOD on this thread,you must as well post pictures .if i can write something and you block it,people spend the whole day commenting what ever they want and you only saw my comment was inappropriate !

jln115:
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have never seen ur army in\with a tactical vest

jln115:
Ok so now that we have established that:

1. The Tucano is the best fighter.........In Africa!

2. NN Unity and Centenary OPVs are the most advanced and powerful warships in africa..........with the most advanced 76mm gun on the planet which is fully capable of anti-ship and anti-air......oh and also functions as a CIWS capable of intercepting any type of missile.

3. Nigeria is the most powerful country in Africa..........BY FAR i might add!!



Here is a few pics of the much much inferior SANDF during Ex Shared Accord:

Now we know you're a big liar

Can you quote any post with this? You have zero dignity or are you pained your IPV /OPV capability isn't as great as ours? You're butt hurt your plans for project Biro was cancelled while Nigeria is currently about to purchase a SSV and missile crafts with the CNS requesting for funds to purchase a frigate and a submarine?


Let me tell you something, you might have some toys, those frigates etc but that Shiit doesn't mean you're going to invade us successfully.

Having piles of Ashm doesn't mean those ships will land on ships. There's something called ECM just as you said our 76mm has no anti warfare capability, you can as well say we have no countermeasures. Mr ITK.


Go dey yawn dust like sey you know. You know how to type some thrash man.

Cannonleo:
112 rounds

kudos for trying it , never thought anyone would attempt it

but i would like to see ur solution

thank u

post it here

https://www.nairaland.com/3220297/technical-discussions-international-military-equipments/247

tdayof:




Let me tell you something, you might have some toys, those frigates etc but that Shiit doesn't mean you're going to invade us successfully.

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and then?

giles14:
have never seen ur army in\with a tactical vest

The pat 83 (which they are all wearing) is a tactical vest. Infact, it was one of the first to see wide scale introduction in the world, at that stage, most everyone else was still using webbing.

If you are talking about plate carriers, or bullet-proof-vests (BPV's) then we have plenty of them, just only wear them in very specific circumstances because they make you slow and cumbersome. Usually urban and mechanised operations. Its hard to pick them out (because the news ones use the same cammo as our uniforms, unlike the old pat 83 with were made when we wore different uniforms)

In the bush:
Speed > Protection

Pic 1: front side
Pic 2: rear side (with plate outline visible)
Pic 3: in the feild
Pic 4: in the feild, guys on the right with SANDF issued, guy on the left with a privately purchased British Osprey Mk2 in DPM.

There is an updated version of the pat 83 in circulation. Dont know much about it though, seems based off the old (custom made) 32 Bt battle-vests.

patches689:


No, Gripen and Tejas are Multi-role fighters

FA-50 is light attack, F-50 was a proposed multi-role but was cancelled. Its mainly a bomb-truck.

Su-30, F-18 etc are air-superiority fighters - long range, big sensors, long loiter times.

The only advantage or disadvantage in air-to-air combat is based on sensors, wing-loading, thrust/weight variables.

Patches689 Stop mixing things up

Light multi-role fighter (Gripens, Tejas, JF-17, ka-50, etc)

Medium multi-role fighter (J-10, F-16, Mig-29, etc)

Heavy multi-role fighter (Rafael, SU-30, F-15, etc)
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Air superiority fighter (typhoon, SU-35, J-20, F22, etc.)

Algerian1:
Algerian officers at ARMY-2017 Expo , seing the russian SF buggy ChaBorz M-3 (3 person ) and Chaborz M-6 (6 person) , maybe a futur contract

just saying the guy in the first pic who is explaining to ur generals

looks like a person of Chechen ethnicity

anyways

u want info linked with global terror groups u go to the Chechen's

with suitcases filled with dollars

giles14:
have never seen ur army in\with a tactical vest

Well, Patches answered while I was still searching all the relevant pictures.

Also, modern tactical kits are used by specialised units and Reserves

Pic 1: Special Forces operators
Pic 2: Reserves

iblawi:


Patches689 Stop mixing things up

Light multi-role fighter (Gripens, Tejas, JF-17, ka-50, etc)

Medium multi-role fighter (J-10, F-16, Mig-29, etc)

Heavy multi-role fighter (Rafael, SU-30, F-15, etc)
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Air superiority fighter (typhoon, SU-35, J-20, F22, etc.)

Literally no one uses this classification system. Because the aircrafts unloaded weight is completely and utterly irrelevant.

The "light" Gripen has a 5,300 kg payload, the "Medium" Mig-29 only 4,000 kg, the "Medium" F-16 has one of the greatest payloads of all.

But hey, if it makes you feel better class the Ka-50 in the same league as the Gripen.. then go ahead.

ActivateKruger:


and then?

And then, you're not capable of invading NIGERIA when your vessels ain't enough to patrol your own waters.

tdayof:


And then, you're not capable of invading NIGERIA when your vessels ain't enough to patrol your own waters.

Why would we ever invade you?

What is this? 1812?

President Muhammadu Buhari will leave Abuja on Monday, September 4, 2017 for a trip to Washington, DC. Mr. Buhari's trip to the US is at the invitation of President Donald Trump, with a Nigerian Presidency source telling our correspondent that Mr. Trump extended the invitation last February, shortly after his inauguration.


Significant in face of A29 deal

patches689:


Why would we ever invade you?

What is this? 1812?

I'm just trying to correct that rubbish misconception always in here of Nigeria being defenceless against an attack by SA.

tdayof:



Now we know you're a big liar

Can you quote any post with this? You have zero dignity or are you pained your IPV /OPV capability isn't as great as ours? You're butt hurt your plans for project Biro was cancelled while Nigeria is currently about to purchase a SSV and missile crafts with the CNS requesting for funds to purchase a frigate and a submarine?


Let me tell you something, you might have some toys, those frigates etc but that Shiit doesn't mean you're going to invade us successfully.

Having piles of Ashm doesn't mean those ships will land on ships. There's something called ECM just as you said our 76mm has no anti warfare capability, you can as well say we have no countermeasures. Mr ITK.


Go dey yawn dust like sey you know. You know how to type some thrash man.

Bro do you even read?? Were did i say the much inferior SANDF could ever invade the most powerful country in Africa, Nigeria?? Or that your 76mm has no anti warfare capability?? I in fact said your gun has all the capabilities one could ever want, anti-ship, anti-air and CIWS!! Who the fvck needs missiles if you have that 76mm gun!!

You also forgot to mention Nigeria is buying F16s and Apaches!!

giles14:
have never seen ur army in\with a tactical vest

You haven't?? The M83 vest is standard......all soldiers are issued one!!