refiner:

If they(islams) believe in heaven and hell too..then no doubt..we serve same God...

No , not at all

Refiner
Do not mind them. Do your part, your message is not meant for all, its meant for the few who are willing to wake up. Listen to me. God bless you.

Anything that is real is not shrouded with cover.Jesus is real.Christianity is real hence the Bible is in all.languages that can be understood.It is not with force of sword or intimidation.The God you accept by fear of sword and AK-47 is not a real God.I wonder why a holy book is written in a language not accessible by all and sundry and someone has to come and interpret it.Whenever I want to comment on Friday Islamic issues,I'm surprised an embargo placed on the thread that one must accept Shahaddah-technically accepting to be a Muslim before you can comment.Such embargo is not placed on Christian thread on Sunday and anybody can comment.Why the secrecy?Why the intimidation?Have you ever seen a church preaching against Islam or its prophet?Have you seen Christians carrying AK-47 to kill Muslims?Anyone who is reasonable will accept that indeed Jesus is the true way to heaven.He is coming back very soon to avenge the blood of his children that has been shed by the uncircumcised. He is coming back to judge the world.Rapture is real.Be prepared.

If death my friend and me divide, Thou dost not, Lord, my sorrow chide, Or frown my tears to see; Restrained from passionate excess, Thou bidst me mourn in calm distress For them that rest in Thee. I feel a strong immortal hope, Which bears my mournful spirit up Beneath its mountain load; Redeemed from death, and grief, and pain, I soon shall find my friend again Within the arms of God. Pass a few fleeting moments more And death the blessing shall restore Which death has snatched away; For me Thou wilt the summons send, And give me back my parted friend In that eternal day

Demigods666:


Different things. You go to the other side of life.

Everything in this existence is made in two.

tor that na winsh...

onyenze123:



They must not work their salvation with fear and trembling. All they need to do is love God (daily communion with him) and love their neighbors as they love themselves.

Christ made it that simple

How many truly love God? Do we know what it takes to love him. Someone persons claim they love God yet they're living in sin and they say God sees the heart. I just smile when I see such people

xerxes456:
Anybody that dies in sin cannot actually say God killed him, you jump inside lagoon wetin go happen? You old sotey bones don dry finish wetin go happen, you catch disease the thing ravage the entire body wetting go happen, natural disaster nko, murderers attack dey, these and many more... what happens after, is a function of the choice YOU made when alive, you choose to do bad things Satan na your papa, you choose to do good things God na your papa... when you die you go meet your papa for im house... Tor, no be God kill you, na so e be... "this day I place before you life and death, choose life that you may live"... it's all up to you... the life is eternity with God, the death is eternity with the devil...

I have a son who I love very much. I sometimes educate my son using obstacles but I can never imagine asking my son to choose between life and death. If I had the powers, I will protect my son from death, from anything that will seperate us. When I punish my son, I do it with love and consideration for his health. No matter how angry he may get me or no matter how many times he annoys me, I can never kill my son. Even with all these, I still sometimes feel as if I am not doing enough. That I am not a very good father.

Now, as a father, how do you expect me to see any value in the god portrayed in the Bible?

MrScribe:


Do you kill your students when they don't do their assignments?

If you don't, then you are far more just and sensible than Yahweh.

It's simple. The laws are there and there's a penalty. Man has a choice to obey or disobey but will face examination at the throne of judgement to give stewardship of what he or she did. Yahweh isn't the respecter of man

Sniper12:
we feel pain cause we have nervous system o. Yinka ayefele spine don damage if u touch am he cant feel it. Cant feel pain too. He sure me die say ghost no get nervous system

matters of the spirit cannot be concretely explained by physical phenomenon, it can be compared,related, but not concrete as per physical, just like matters of the heart denys logic and mathematics... so if you think you can really really bring it in you'll be calculating wrong.. read about Jesus and doubting Thomas.. in John 20: 24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.

25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, "Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe".

26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

There's bllessing in hearing God's children and reading his reports and believing before seeing, don't be a doubting Thomas...

MrScribe:


I have a son whom I love very much. I sometimes educate my son using obstacles but I can never imagine asking my son to choose between life and death. If I had the powers, I will protect my son from death, from anything that will seperate us. When I punish my son, I do it with love and consideration for his health. No matter how angry he may get me or no matter how many times he annoys me, I can never kill my son. Even with all these, I still sometimes feel as if I am not doing enough. That I am not a very good father.

Now, as a father, how do you expect me to see any value in the god portrayed in the Bible?

You just described a strict Islamic Allah who forces relationship with his children. That would be you infringing on your children's right to choose what they want (emphasis on want).

I could remember vividly when I was very little,i had a very serious accident on my head I lost a lot of blood that day.
I was in another world hearing a woman calling my name,and I heard shouting even my brother was asking me if am breathing cus I was so unconscious.
Description of that world;the world echos,was lonely,and no mass support,it was very dark without form.

All I know was when i recovered I opened my eyes and there I knew am back to earth. All I could see was a very big plaster and bandages they used to bandage my wounds. And I spent more 5 days in the hospital. So on the 6th day I was dismissed. I then asked one of my neighbour to fully narrate the scenario of what happened that day and he told me that his mum was the one shouting my name when I was so downed.

But I still believe in God and also Jesus christ who came to show man the way to the father.

We have 2 types of action in this life

1. GOOD

2. BAD

We also have 2 types of world
1. WORLD OF FORM
2. WORLD OF SHADDOW

Doubt at your own peril. Christianity is not by force but the messages must be spread world wide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDRj3MsNNO0

asuustrike2009:

Do you flog or discipline your child? Yes
Do you tell your child the consequence for whatever decision he or she takes? Yes
Do you as lecturer or teacher set examination for your students? Yes
Do you mark their scripts? Yes
Do you like to leave in dirty environment? No
If you do and don't the above which I suppose,same with Yahweh. He gave man the book of the law to follow and would judge man from that same book.

So if your child disobeys your instructions you will now trow him into the lake of fire??, I mean your own child you claim to love so much

asuustrike2009:

How many truly love God? Do we know what it takes to love him. Someone persons claim they love God yet they're living in sin and they say God sees the heart. I just smile when I see such people

"Claim" you said. Nevertheless, children of God do sin because they are imperfect humans.

Chaii ... religion don scam people Finnish for this we country . This pictures op how you take get those picture were you there chaiii. You can lie.

creating what you are not sure of and yet making it mandatory for everyone to believe or face consequences

What kind nonsense is this

Though I am a christian

I know that judgement day is not anytime soon


Read the book of revelation and tell me how many things have come true?

NONE!

asuustrike2009:

It's simple. The laws are there and there's a penalty. Man has a choice to obey or disobey but will face examination at the throne of judgement to give stewardship of what he or she did. Yahweh isn't the respecter of man

A useless law.

Supposing you are a judge, would you sentence a pickpocket to death for pickpocketing? Do you think a god who claims to be just would curse unborn generations because of the disobedience of two people?

In a country with a good justice system, the law makes sure everyone gets good justice. A thief who stole a purse and is sentenced to death based on that crime cannot be said to have got good justice. A god who will burn a man in hell forever for committing a crime for like 70 years is not a just god but a wicked and heartless one. It is like killing a man for stealing Maggi.

MrScribe:


A useless law.

Supposing you are a judge, would you sentence a pickpocket to death for pickpocketing? Do you think a god who claims to be just would curse unborn generations because of the disobedience of two people?

In a country with a good justice system, the law makes sure everyone gets good justice. A thief who stole a purse and is sentenced to death based on that crime cannot be said to have got good justice. A god who will burn a man in hell forever for committing a crime for like 70 years is not a just god but a wicked and heartless one. It is like killing a man for stealing Maggi.

. God, however, is not a respecter of persons for He is a just judge.
Acts 10:34-35:
“Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth Him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with Him.
Rom 2:11:
“For there is no respect of persons with God.”
Rom. 11:22:
“Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.”

9inches:


"Claim" you said. Nevertheless, children of God do sin because they are imperfect humans.

Be ye perfect for I am perfect says Yahweh. Yahweh is interested in our perfection(100%) not 99.9% perfection.

hopefulLandlord:


actually that's not how it works, if you chose Jesus and Islam happens to be true you head to hell anyways

I see, now I get it, there are two kinds of hell, the Islamic hell and the Christian hell, one is definitely imaginary and one is definitely real ba

Rolly22:


So if your child disobeys your instructions you will now trow him into the lake of fire??, I mean your own child you claim to love so much

I will discipline the child by flogging him. If after discipline, counseling and talks he didn't change, he will pay for whatever consequence he sees.

Don't forget that there are market women who are burning human beings alive!

And those Bastards are the ones to pray the loudest in church

It is called hypocrisy and ignorance

They will deceive themselves and go to hell

Synthase:


I see, now I get it, there are two kinds of hell, the Islamic hell and the Christian hell, one is definitely imaginary and one is definitely real ba

there's also Judaism hell, which most Israelites believe in, Israelites don't believe in Jesus neither do they believe in Mohammed, their belief starts and stops at the old testament

The story of five youths who decided to make a journey to a beautiful city where all things have been rumoured to be made with gold

BUT

Hades will lure
Heaven will implore
A path they will follow
To bliss or a dreadful hollow
A question here is begging
Where are they heading?

Find out in this short movie.

AN ODE TO DISTRACTION (Full video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66tUfC-k_iY

YourImaginaryBF:
we don't serve the same God because we do not worship God's creation (Jesus)

Really I wonder why too much attention is given to Jesus rather than to God.
Remember, Jesus made it clear that he is not God when he was called the Good Master. Remember also that he called on God while he was being cruxified: Eloi ( meaning, God).
Why then are Christians ignoring the One and only True God and worshipping Jesus.

Jesus came to deliver a message from God to mankind and while on earth, the Spirit of God controlled all his actions.
When Jesus died, the Spirit of God in him, left and went back to The Creator. This same Spirit was returned to the earth and was passed unto believers in God. That is the Holy Spirit we are talking about.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God released onto the world for the benefit of mankind.
It is what regulates our conducts and our interactions with one another, not necessarily as Christians but as believers in one true God!

It is sacrilegious to call Jesus, God. As a believer in God's Message as delivered by Jesus of Nazareth, I am also a worshipper of One True God who said in the Ten Commandment that we must have no other God but HIM alone.

Wrong religious ideology is what is corrupting the Christian religion. Religious leaders today are making matters worst. They bring in logic and the ignorant philosophies propounded by Paul to twist out the truth about God and His Will for mankind.

Today, the emphasis is on money in the church. Pastors now relish reading the book of Malachi, particularly, the aspect that concerns tithe and offering which again, they twist to their own selfish ends.

YourImaginaryBF:
If Jesus was God he would have sought for worship for himself. Your arguments are invalid.

Jesus is the son of God and not a prophet he came from heaven