Joebie:
It's ANS etc job to report. It's ours to react. But like I've always maintained I don't do this because I think they come here to read our comments. I'm sure they don't. So why should I take all these seriously. If they do not win on Monday I will be tempted to atribute the loss to this behavior. If they win, I will go get my girls and celebrate as well hahaha

safarigirl:
millions of Nigerians will not die if they lose.

If it is partying for four hours that will make them lose, so be it..


It is their loss, just like it is my paper to fail. Abi, you think I don't have people depending on me to pass exams?

It is similar logic, you just won't see it as disciplinarian wey you be.

It is your beliefs that makes you hold this idea that what they did was wrong, so pray tell, how can I not 'attack' your person? Did I not use myself as an example? Is that not bringing in my personality as an example?.


Life is not that serious, they cannot comman die because they have game. Is it your game?

safarigirl:
ANS is a trash journalism page.

In fact, those boys never partied. People that post everything on social media partied and I did not see one post on the party from IG to Snapchat?

ANS is lying abeg

TheSuperNerd:

And as professional footballers, don't you think they should know about this more than any of us who are nonprofessional footballers??

And again... Let them learn. They have made the mistake but I am damn sure they know what is at sake more than any of us.

This was the same way most people here were screaming about how we were revealing a little of our training sessions via OGN and claiming that the Camerounians were seriously preparing and all that and doing so in secret... yet they came down here "4-Nothing"

Abeg... let us have perspective and focus on the needful. Let us not overflog this. What is wrong is wrong but also The Happiness and Flow of a team is far more important than forming 100% saint... Even Jesus didn't condone nonsense yet he used wisdom to reach out and correct mistakes made by even his own disciples. Overflogging this won't work.

TheSuperNerd:

And as professional footballers, don't you think they should know about this more than any of us who are nonprofessional footballers??

And again... Let them learn. They have made the mistake but I am damn sure they know what is at sake more than any of us.

This was the same way most people here were screaming about how we were revealing a little of our training sessions via OGN and claiming that the Camerounians were seriously preparing and all that and doing so in secret... yet they came down here "4-Nothing"

Abeg... let us have perspective and focus on the needful. Let us not overflog this. What is wrong is wrong but also The Happiness and Flow of a team is far more important than forming 100% saint... Even Jesus didn't condone nonsense yet he used wisdom to reach out and correct mistakes made by even his own disciples. Overflogging this won't work.

safarigirl:
ANS is a trash journalism page.

In fact, those boys never partied. People that post everything on social media partied and I did not see one post on the party from IG to Snapchat?

ANS is lying abeg

solonnachi:
Any player that parties with girls in this crucial state of Nigeria's World Cup qualification, na im sabi. Just give us our 3 points come Monday.

Joebie:
Hitler of descipline lol... Oga u just dey talk like say u dey camp with Mikel etc.. Even Mikel is fallible. Let's not make him a god now.. Let's not lie to ourselves, that win sweet all of us well well.. So some of us are throwing away logic because we are still basking in that euphoria. Ok now wake up to reality. like I've been saying we have not qualified yet. So that your analogy don't come in. When the battle is won U can quote that scripture..this is far from disciplinarian matter.. This is teaching focus until the deed is done. Lessons they will have to learn as professionals..

TheGoodJoe:


Life is that serious. Make no mistake about that. They were wrong. No matter how hard you try to garnish their actions, they were wrong. It disrupted their preparation.

blueto:
Do you need to repeat a mistake severally before learning from it? so we should agree that because they know “what is at stake,” then any reprehensible behavior from them will be welcomed?

I believe your message on “focusing on the needful” should be directed to the players, not me. How needful was the “party” in winning the next game?

TheSuperNerd:

My message is about Using Wisdom to keep a team together when the deed is not done... and so close to the finish line. you think it is easy to handle a bunch of grown adolescents and young adults? Do you realise what it will take for Mikel and Balogun to maintain team flow and happiness?

Mikel is faliible... yeah... no one says he is... so also are you. So also are we all isn't it? So EOD on fallibility.

And my analogy works perfectly because I was not talking of the Victory itself but the mangnitude and manner of the victory.... Israel fought more wars even after that Victory. So you see that you missed my point.

The Boys scored a great victory over an eternal rival... in a manner that our past footballers could only dream of. This is what I am talking about. Some of them are bound to lose their heads and get over the moon and partyyyyyyy.... u garrit now? Good... so it takes wisdom to not be quick to just stamp your foot and spoil "Their fun" but to let some things slide because of euphoria and later communicate to them the need to always remain grounded no matter the victory. Tell them though they were allowed to party but in truth, they should not have because To achieve the highest in their field, they must be disciplined and not lose steam until the task is truly done no matter the magnitude of the little victories along the way....


...That way... you have done two things... earned more respect and love from the players and also made them understand that they should know better and that next time.. such should not happen.

But when you are always quick to charge in and correct as the Hitler of discipline without being sensitive to the "Moments".... you will only complicate matters and give the team a bad view of your style of leadership even if you mean well....


Handling young adults and grown men takes Wisdom even when leading them by the hands of Discipline.

TheGoodJoe:
I even heard Akpabio paid for chicks to warm up our boys before that South African game. SMH.

Musa's eyes sparked.
Wa Lai Ta Lai. I need this kind of thing on a consistent basis.

Danielnino00:
Thesupernerd, Joebi, icon79,icon4s, safarigirl,tbaba1234 and other "elders" in the house what would be ur preferred lineup for tomorrow game??

Joebie:
Sir this matter is about timing and not whether you are Christian or not.. Or whether you carry girls or not..As for me the battle is still on. And we should act like it.. It's one battle in two parts. The second is even more crucial.. You don't celebrate victory like that when your enemy is getting ready "to fight another day"

TheGoodJoe:
I even heard Akpabio paid for chicks to warm up our boys before that South African game. SMH.

Musa's eyes sparked.
Wa Lai Ta Lai. I need this kind of thing on a consistent basis.

jotey:
I wonder what this argument is all about

even during wars after winning the first battle the soldiers and commanders always catch fun with drinks and nkwobi


abi una no dae watch Korean movies?

Joebie:
Abeg line up your sister for Musa o. Third wife loading.....

TheSuperNerd:
Now that is the message I already said Mikel and his other elders in the team will remind the young ones about. Haven't I mentioned that already?

Fact remains this... Keeping the harmony of a team made of exuberant youth is super challenging. It takes not just discipline but Keen Wisdom. That is the whole issue. Now let us face the boys in Yaounde. shall we?

blueto:
From my view as Christian and especially as one who believes on grace and the gift of righteousness as seen in Romans 5:17, I want to say that we all have sinned, and that is why in the new covenant, God has given us the gift of righteousness, because we can't earn by ourselves. Even the likes of David, Moses, Solomon and others in the old covenant that emphasised so much on obeying God and keeping the law still found themselves in doing what displeased God. So God decided that through Christ's death on the cross, he has fulfilled the law and obeyed God on our behalf since we couldn't perfectly keep the law, and made the gift of righteousness available for everyone to receive in Christ. So God do no longer assess or judge us base on our obedience or self-righteousness or self-regulation in the new covenant but with the obedience and righteousness of Christ, so we are at right standing with God even when we make mistakes, as long as we believe and confess the gift of righteousness through His son.

So in the same token, I will refrain from condemning them because because we all have been guilty in one way or the other. He that is without sin, should cast the first stone. This is were the grace of is made perfect. It is defined as an unmerited, undeserved and unearned favor from God.

Joebie:
Firstly, you are now saying the story in entirety is not true.

Secondly, you know whether Mikel follow? Or maybe Na him dey distracted now sef? That's where my fallibility talk stems from. Abi u be Mikel? Lol

TheSuperNerd:

Mikel follow abi? is that what you want to start throwing around coz I see you mention this a second time... .

Mikel who spoke about the need to win all remaining games and stay this team the same way he did at Rio 2016. This is the Mikel who will be so easily distracted all of a sudden? Abeg... Sir Joebie... don't go there abeg.

And yes... I don't buy ANS' exaggerated reports. Why post such news if not to get clicks on their sites and also distort the true picture of the team's focus...

Like I said... even if it happened... Let Wisdom rule alongside Discipline and making sure it does not repeat itself. These players are the future and it is what they learn now that they will apply with the next generation when Mikel is long gone from the team.

Now to Yaounde... don't want to speak anymore on this matter.

We have a game to focus on.

blueto:
From my view as Christian and especially as one who believes on grace and the gift of righteousness as seen in Romans 5:17, I want to say that we all have sinned, and that is why in the new covenant, God has given us the gift of righteousness, because we can't earn by ourselves. Even the likes of David, Moses, Solomon and others in the old covenant that emphasised so much on obeying God and keeping the law still found themselves in doing what displeased God. So God decided that through Christ's death on the cross, he has fulfilled the law and obeyed God on our behalf since we couldn't perfectly keep the law, and made the gift of righteousness available for everyone to receive in Christ. So God do no longer assess or judge us base on our obedience or self-righteousness or self-regulation in the new covenant but with the obedience and righteousness of Christ, so we are at right standing with God even when we make mistakes, as long as we believe and confess the gift of righteousness through His son.

So in the same token, I will refrain from condemning them because because we all have been guilty in one way or the other. He that is without sin, should cast the first stone. This is were the grace of is made perfect. It is defined as an unmerited, undeserved and unearned favor from God.

boostdom:
Truly, there is a need to restructure the minds of Nigerians. When issues relating to value systems are criticised, it is not only because of the linear effect arising from that dysfunction but also as a result of the multiplier effects on relating events.

The concept of responsibility, duty, obligation, long term discipline seem so alien to Nigeria. It's always about living in the moment...little thought is spared for the domino effect of our current actions.

Everyday we are regaled with football players and other sportmen who are fined weeks of wages for unprofessional conducts off the field. These clubs are probably too disciplinary in the guise of Hitler.

There is a reason why our society is the way it is now. A society that gives excuses for laxity of discipline will not develop.

It was nice hanging around here, gentlemen, I'll be back tomorrow.

Danielnino00:
Thesupernerd, Joebi, icon79,icon4s, safarigirl,tbaba1234 and other "elders" in the house what would be ur preferred lineup for tomorrow game??

TheGoodJoe:


Musa left his wife for one fine Calabar chick. The guy did not waste time.

When he said consistent basis, he meant consistent basis.