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Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Nobody: 11:57am On Sep 05, 2017
Uncle Bob's words. (Am just a messenger grin)

President Robert Mugabe says Nelson Mandela cherished his personal freedom over the economic freedom of his people, which is why today in South Africa "everything is in the whites' hands", reports say.

The 93-year-old president was speaking in Shona at a ruling party rally in the central town of Gweru on Friday.

"What was the most important thing for (Mandela) was his release from prison and nothing else. He cherished that freedom more than anything else and forgot why he was put in jail," Mugabe said, in comments translated by news website NewZimbabwe.com

Mugabe claimed this view of Mandela is even shared by ministers in President Jacob Zuma's cabinet.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201709040001.html

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Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Damibiz(m): 12:25pm On Sep 05, 2017
Old man,leave the young guys to rule,stop being greedy

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Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by DOUBLEWAHALA: 12:47pm On Sep 05, 2017
another facebook post
Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Lionessza(f): 2:41pm On Sep 05, 2017
If he actually said this, then that's the biggest joke ever. He chased the whites out of his country and today as we speak almost half of Zimbabweans have run away from their country to the same South Africa. If they have economic freedom in Zimbabwe why are they eating in dustbins in SA?

The nigga is just an attention seeking tyrant.

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Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by panafrican(m): 1:12am On Sep 06, 2017
Those who want to undermine Mugabe should find another horse instead of engaging in some nonsense.

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Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Rossikki: 4:09pm On Sep 06, 2017
Lionessza:
If he actually said this, then that's the biggest joke ever. He chased the whites out of his country and today as we speak almost half of Zimbabweans have run away from their country to the same South Africa. If they have economic freedom in Zimbabwe why are they eating in dustbins in SA?

The nigga is just an attention seeking tyrant.

Stop telling lies. "Almost half" of Zimbabweans have NOT run away from Zimbabwe. And the economic hardship there was caused by western imposed economic sanctions placed on that country for its land redistribution program, which eliminated the previous situation whereby the white minority of 4% owned 85% of the land, with black Zimbabweans mere peasants on their own territory. Mugabe changed that, and that is why his people love him. Their suffering is slowly coming to an end and their economy is now growing, but with fairness to all, and that is the best. Not slavery to whites as you are suggesting. And do stop using racist epithets here, if you don't mind.

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Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by cstr1000: 5:25pm On Sep 06, 2017
Who cares?
The whites in southafrica are far more humane than the black.
They are on their own this time around.
Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Rossikki: 6:05pm On Sep 06, 2017
cstr1000:
Who cares?
The whites in southafrica are far more humane than the black.
They are on their own this time around.


It is easy to be "humane" when you've cornered the wealth of the entire country and sit in the lap of luxury. Not so easy to be "humane" when you're on the rough end of the stick, like the black ghetto dwellers.

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Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Snyder1ZA: 9:10pm On Sep 06, 2017
Rossikki:


Stop telling lies. "Almost half" of Zimbabweans have NOT run away from Zimbabwe. And the economic hardship there was caused by western imposed economic sanctions placed on that country for its land redistribution program, which eliminated the previous situation whereby the white minority of 4% owned 85% of the land, with black Zimbabweans mere peasants on their own territory. Mugabe changed that, and that is why his people love him. Their suffering is slowly coming to an end and their economy is now growing, but with fairness to all, and that is the best. Not slavery to whites as you are suggesting. And do stop using racist epithets here, if you don't mind.

Tell this shiiit to those who risk there lives daily crossing the Limpopo river on there way to SA. According to STATSA there are between 1,5-3m Zim nationals in SA while a estimated third are illegally in SA or on expired documentation.

Most of the farms owned by former whites in Zim are in the hands of Zim war vets or Zano PF leaders, some owning up to 10 farms. We who visit places near the Kruger NP and Musina know full well the effects of Zims decline.

Yes sanctions partly is to blame for Zims woes but the gov of Mugabe has become dictatorial in all aspects and that's a fact. There's no free press nor do they allow freedom of political rights in that country. The issue with Zim is there obsession with whites in order to tame there masses by blaming everything on the West like most of our black leaders do, yet they ignore the fact that their economic policies are the cause not Western sanctions.

SADC is starting to get fed up with Mugabe.

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Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Nobody: 5:53am On Sep 07, 2017
It would be sad if Mugabe was giving those farms to his fellow political bigwigs angry like some other African countries did after independence
Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Rossikki: 2:33pm On Sep 10, 2017
Snyder1ZA:


Tell this shiiit to those who risk there lives daily crossing the Limpopo river on there way to SA. According to STATSA there are between 1,5-3m Zim nationals in SA while a estimated third are illegally in SA or on expired documentation.

Most of the farms owned by former whites in Zim are in the hands of Zim war vets or Zano PF leaders, some owning up to 10 farms. We who visit places near the Kruger NP and Musina know full well the effects of Zims decline.

Yes sanctions partly is to blame for Zims woes but the gov of Mugabe has become dictatorial in all aspects and that's a fact. There's no free press nor do they allow freedom of political rights in that country. The issue with Zim is there obsession with whites in order to tame there masses by blaming everything on the West like most of our black leaders do, yet they ignore the fact that their economic policies are the cause not Western sanctions.

SADC is starting to get fed up with Mugabe.

Spare me your bullcrap, Mr bodyguard for the west. I've never seen "most black leaders blaming the west" for anything. You pulled that crap out of your self-hate troubled asss. If anything, most black leaders still see the west as 'partners' in their quest for development, forming all sorts of alliances with them.

Zimbabwe is technically in a state of war with the west, and so they are right to curtail certain rights like "free press" since those are subject to infiltration by foreign elements, who would use that to further destabilise the country. And sanctions ARE to blame for Zimbabwe's economic difficulties. Not "partly". Mugabe' economic policies are 100% correct. He is redistributing the nation's resources to the black majority, and helping to foster racial equality. It is a long-term vision which future generations of Zimbabweans will benefit from, as stakeholders in their ancestral lands, not tenants, peasants, and servants to white men.

Of course the black elite would be given more land, because they can afford to utilise it without the temptation of selling it back to the white minority, and defeating the purpose of the redistribution program. Do you see any poor people owning large tracts of land in the UK? Is it not their aristocracy that owns all the land there? But BBC will moan night and day that Mugabe is giving land to his "cronies". You should ask them how their queen and various princes, dukes, duchesses, lords, earls, and other elite came to own vast tracts of prime land in the UK. Why isn't it shared among the commoners as they are prescribing for Zimbabwe? Why is their "free press" not complaining about the injustice of that situation? Maybe they're not so "free" as you think..

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Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Snyder1ZA: 7:03pm On Sep 10, 2017
Rossikki:


Spare me your bullcrap, Mr bodyguard for the west. I've never seen "most black leaders blaming the west" for anything. You pulled that crap out of your self-hate troubled asss. If anything, most black leaders still see the west as 'partners' in their quest for development, forming all sorts of alliances with them.

Zimbabwe is technically in a state of war with the west, and so they are right to curtail certain rights like "free press" since those are subject to infiltration by foreign elements, who would use that to further destabilise the country. And sanctions ARE to blame for Zimbabwe's economic difficulties. Not "partly". Mugabe' economic policies are 100% correct. He is redistributing the nation's resources to the black majority, and helping to foster racial equality. It is a long-term vision which future generations of Zimbabweans will benefit from, as stakeholders in their ancestral lands, not tenants, peasants, and servants to white men.

Of course the black elite would be given more land, because they can afford to utilise it without the temptation of selling it back to the white minority, and defeating the purpose of the redistribution program. Do you see any poor people owning large tracts of land in the UK? Is it not their aristocracy that owns all the land there? But BBC will moan night and day that Mugabe is giving land to his "cronies". You should ask them how their queen and various princes, dukes, duchesses, lords, earls, and other elite came to own vast tracts of prime land in the UK. Why isn't it shared among the commoners as they are prescribing for Zimbabwe? Why is their "free press" not complaining about the injustice of that situation? Maybe they're not so "free" as you think..

The only asssss muncher here is you. The West nor East are partners with african leaders for development, its all abt self enrichment and auctioning of future resources in africa under the pretext of partnership development. This is what is happening all over africa and you know it.

What delusions are you under, what war with West is Zimbabwe under tell me who drew up the economic policies in Zimb
abwe the "West". African leaders are quick to blame there woes on the West instead of focusing on educating the masses and develop there own resources by bennificiation be it Agri or mineral. Free press is one of the foundations on which to keep the Elite in check, otherwise we can just go back to the days of monarchs and rulers for life like its currently happening in Zim.

So the monetary policy of printing money and allowing your currency to become a worthless peace of paper is correct under your assumption. Show me where wealth redistribution is reaching the masses, while you at it tell this to those Zimbabweans who brace the Kruger National Park daily to escape poverty.

I don't give a fucccck abt the BBC and their demonization of Zim or any western media outlets who pushes a particular agenda, what I care about is transparency and the rule of law. Have you ever been to Zim? Tell me what's there to worship about a 93 who wants to die in office.

In conclusion it seems we can agree on some issues but on the Mugabe sainthood theory you trying so hard to propagate I beg to differ
Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Rossikki: 4:38pm On Sep 12, 2017
Snyder1ZA:


The only asssss muncher here is you. The West nor East are partners with african leaders for development, its all abt self enrichment and auctioning of future resources in africa under the pretext of partnership development. This is what is happening all over africa and you know it.

What delusions are you under, what war with West is Zimbabwe under tell me who drew up the economic policies in Zimb
abwe the "West". African leaders are quick to blame there woes on the West instead of focusing on educating the masses and develop there own resources by bennificiation be it Agri or mineral. Free press is one of the foundations on which to keep the Elite in check, otherwise we can just go back to the days of monarchs and rulers for life like its currently happening in Zim.

So the monetary policy of printing money and allowing your currency to become a worthless peace of paper is correct under your assumption. Show me where wealth redistribution is reaching the masses, while you at it tell this to those Zimbabweans who brace the Kruger National Park daily to escape poverty.

I don't give a fucccck abt the BBC and their demonization of Zim or any western media outlets who pushes a particular agenda, what I care about is transparency and the rule of law. Have you ever been to Zim? Tell me what's there to worship about a 93 who wants to die in office.

In conclusion it seems we can agree on some issues but on the Mugabe sainthood theory you trying so hard to propagate I beg to differ


Thanks for ducking, dodging, and avoiding everything I wrote to engage in a stupid rant. You've shown you have nothing to offer but loud rhetoric and bombastic nonsense. Get this. The land redistribution programme in Zimbabwe WILL continue, and Mugabe will continue to be popular among the majority rural Zimbabweans who keep voting him back into office, despite you and the BBC's lies about him forcing himself on the people. He is loved because he turned them from peasant tenants on their ancestral land to stakeholders and owners of their land. Go and give away YOUR house or land to a white man if it makes you happy. Zimbabweans have had enough of that, and they say NO, and will keep saying NO.
Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Nobody: 7:54pm On Sep 13, 2017
I agree with what Mugabe. Nelson Mandela did negotiated with the White SA who imprisoned him unjustly for him to be released in exchange for the economy of the country to remain mostly on the Whites hand. He forgot the principles he fought for before he was imprisoned.

I think Nelson Mandela is overrated. undecided

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Re: Mugabe - Mandela 'forgot Why He Was In Jail ...everything In SA In Whites' Hands by Nobody: 9:11pm On Sep 13, 2017
White racist catfish spotted!
cstr1000:
Who cares?
The whites in southafrica are far more humane than the black.
They are on their own this time around.

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