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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:20pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Humility017:Its a naija syndrome. All the way from the presidency to even the electrician awarded a big contract. We are yet to recognize the power of a Press secretary like other developed countries. The way he even clamors for Abraham, i pray it doesnt hurt us at last moment of selection. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:26pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Joebie: with that performance against Cameroon, we would be 2 goals down against Brazil, atleast a goal down against Spain and 4 goals down against Germany after 20minutes. Make no mistake about it, that game was won by individual brilliance, a repeat of that performance(exactly that performance) against Belgium will be a white-wash no offence |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:28pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:that will be so heavy. lol. im i the only one noticing a consistent lack of manners in players of IUFC? if this is becos their oga na bigi man, they wont go anywhere o. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 9:28pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
nelszx: I want England like crazy ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:33pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Individual brilliance and minimal team work? Hmm... Lets both watch the Uyo match again. Mickael2: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:37pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
safarigirl: Agreed 100% 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:42pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Me too. Would love to see Dele Alli shake his head in disbelief. But wait, let's stop dreaming of playing Brazil in the QF when we haven't beaten Denmark. jotey: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:45pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Lol. U no lie. We believe making noise in the media does a thing. daveP: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 9:46pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
safarigirl: First of all, I never asked for a tweaking of our team simply because Cameroon tweaked. Another thing you said which is bolded is that a good team does what we call rotation. Let us be mindful of the fact that this is not a clubside football where you have players that play week in, week out. This is the national team that plays maybe once in 5 months. And now we are lucky to have games goin back to back so as to form a bed rock of the team. Seein that there is not much time, here and now is not the time to be experimenting new invitees so as not to break momentum. This is where our ability to build understanding comes in. While i dont have any issues with people invited to camp, it is the prerogative of the coach to field whoever fits into their game plans. All i said is our attitude in that match. Recall the match against South Africa in 2013. Musa missed 2 one on ones with the goalkeeper which you dont get always. I recall the commentator sayi ng he might rue this at the end of the game. If he had buried the chances he had, we would have probably have qualified. Sadly, we drew the match and dropped points and thats where we practically lost qualification. Morale of the whole story? Bury your chances so as to avoid the proverbial "Calculators". How did Nigeria Crash out of 2006 world cup? Head to head rule! Losing 1- nil to angola in Kano. As regards the guys on the bench, their time will come and they will excel and there is time for that. We still have nations cup matches and friendlies to be played. I have always been a fan of starting 22 and not starting 11. But lets understand that this is a new team built around some players and newer players are joining. But all cannot play at the same time. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:51pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
kennysville:new invitees? I'm talking about the bench, not new invitees....even Rohr said fringe players, and those may not be new invitees. I clearly stated that there is barely space for new guys sef. In certain areas, there will be no new invitees eg the defence IMO |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:01pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
daveP:all over the English press as at today.. it carries the news of Nigeria plans to lure Tammy Abraham... all because pinnick refuse to zip his mouth. they frequently spy on our news channels I have read the mirror.co uk and other quote own goal Nigeria and all Nigeria soccer severally |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 10:05pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
pyrex23:it will not happen,BRAZIL,GERMANY & BELGIUM will b seeded.it's almost impossible 4 Brazil and Germany to b in the same group because they will always b among the top seeded teams |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:11pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Mickael2: How exactly? 1. Goal number 2: rehearsed set piece.. 2. Goal number 3: Classic counter 3. Goal number 4: Excellent team goal That win had a lot to do win team work 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:12pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Joebie:he needs attention so bad, he came down from the same plane our players boarded to start doing "welcomer", thus the insinuating snub clip. he should play his game well and he' be celebrated jare. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 10:12pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
AIG07:i don't think that USA '94 team stand a chance,perhaps as a best loser. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:15pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
somehow:Echiejele sudden drop of form? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:15pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Joebie: i just did and I think that what I said was an understatement. If we play like that against Spain they'd have us for breakfast everyday of the week and twice on sundays, not to mention Germany and Brazil. The defeciencies in that game were quite open, and I will be using instances too. From defence: if Isco drifts into Echejile's wing(even if Echejile is there he will still beat him silly, no brainer really) and has enough space to operate that will draw Balogun out of his wings like he did a lot of times(this should actually be Onazi's role but Balogun was doing it, nice against Cameroon but deadly against top teams) that creates a Spanish over-load in the middle and we all know Isco's decision making is top-notch, a quick pass into the middle(if he doesn't fancy his chances against Balogun one-on-one anyways,just ask the Italians) and they will surely create a chance, Enyeama can only do so much. This is the defence first of all. Midfield: the spaces left by Onazi continously was an eyesore. Against Spain, we can count that as two assists for Iniesta wrapped in a gift bag and delivered promptly. Just drift in, receive a pass and do the damage, the worse part is that Onazi when he sees that he is out of position will come driving in, at the end there will be two players marking one player(Iniesta) and what does that mean? Another guy is free, creating more space and you can believe that Iniesta will pick that pass with perfection. This is how the midfield battle is won. With Mikel as our Amf and Busquets(probably the best DMF in the world or top 2 at least) holding him off trust me Mikel's impact will be reduced markedly, of course Mikel's brilliance may shine through once in a while but Busq gets the upper hand 90% of the time, now what happens when Mikel actually gets the upper hand? Read on do you fancy Ideye's chances against Spain? I do not. Iheanacho stands a better chance. But then you are talking about two of the best CBs in the game against a young lad who is yet to cut it at club level, now that is not a great sight to behold. Now all they need to do is isolate Iheanacho from Moses and Moses will start trying to beat all the four defenders plus GK, result? No shot close to goal and when Moses is having a bad day our attack is too. The defeciencies in our game like I said were clear, claiming that we stand a chance against Spain(Spain are vastly inferior to Germany or Brazil) is pure fantasy. Trust me the performance that Siaone's team gave against Argentina was actually better than this performance by far, that too against vastly superior opponent. Our best bet is to pray we follow Ghana's path, I fancy our chances against Uruguay and other mid-level teams but top teams? We don't have the players, the technical ability, the coach or even the facilities to attempt it |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:16pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Humility017:Smh. Time he wakes up to know he isnt a spokesman, but a president. Anyway, when there's no serious rulebook on responsibilities, what do we expect? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:20pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
tbaba1234: first of all, you think winning a game is only about the goals? Glad you counted out the first goal though. Ok....goal number three was created and finished by Moses, that was literally a one-man counter attack, no team play there at all. Simon almost spoilt the groove. Goal number 4 came because they were already down, if you know your psychology you would know that the goal was more about them than us, that doesn't take anything away from the sweet play though. The second goal is the only serious claim you have. But tell me again how that corner came about. Who created the chance for Moses Simon? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:21pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Joebie:Its kinda like a 57/43 ratio. it wasnt that obvious but it was there in the 1st half. its nothing to worry about though since big teams do it also. the defence was the most glaring. organized teamwork. wingers usually go solo mostimes, so maybe thats the individuality he meant. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:24pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Actually, you need both team work and individual brilliance to fare well especially against big teams. But I like to engage people in a more mature manner. Maybe if we both go back to watch the build up to all the goals we will come to one common conclusion. daveP: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:24pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Mickael2: I wonder how you keep going on about no team work. Balogun and Victor Moses teamed up to support Echiejile on the left side of the attack. Is that not a perfect example of team work in the match? In the midfield, Ndidi and Mikel combined through out the game to give Onazi room to make darting runs. It was a nice team performance with a well-planned strategy. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:28pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
you no be baba for nothing. in fact, i was impressed because I had expected Cameroon to play more as a team, considering the many matches they had going to that game. in fact we looked like a team that had played a lot more together. I saw a great degree of understanding and cohesion in that SE team, on that said matchday. tbaba1234: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:28pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Mickael2: Where was Busquets when Mikel performed well against Spain? He forgot to reduce Mikel's effect in that game. Busquets was Looking so much I thought he was Lucozade. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 10:31pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Mickael2:until then. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:32pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
safarigirl: There are varying degrees of team rotation. You cannot be presenting different starting 11 and expect to build a team Yes we want the team to get better but a total rotation is a no-no. The 1994 team had depth but we know the regular starters. Everyone even till date can list the starting 11 of that team. Youth football is different from Senior football. So the reference to the Manu's U17 does not hold much water here. Football at the U17 level has to do more with the individual abilities of the players. Manu assembled a pool of players with great abilities that even when some players failed the MRI the others still performed. At this level individual abilities counts a lot. You first need regulars before your team can achieve cohesion. Cohesion matters a lot at senior level. Yes we need the injection of fresh blood into the team but this must be a gradual process. It took Westerhoff 5 years to progress the team to what it was in 1994. We cannot become Spain, Germany, Brazil or France over night. And let me correct one impression, everybody must not play. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:33pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
And I've been calling for Echiejile's competition long. But most of us maintained he is trusted and experienced -- agreed. But when better competition (teams) comes knocking we will have no choice but to fix what is actually broken. Kog45: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:33pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Mickael2:All the instances you gave have to happen. No team can have a perfect teamwork. There must always be a chance for individual flair now. Aspa understanding, thats where you have a case, and papi Rohr is working on that. Cr7 and Marcelo have a sharp understanding btw them than their team work. We would get there. We arent done yet. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:34pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: you see the points you made have one thing in common, all these aren't what I am saying. Moses started out on the right, he switched to the left to help Echejile I know all that, ok maybe the point isn't teamwork exactly that I should call it.....ehm what do you call a situation where all your attacks are emanating from one side or one person? One dimensional? Then that's my point. Every single attacking move had one thing in common, Mikeloses. Moses Simon generated ZERO attack and apart from one nice play in the first half Ndidi was dormant too, Onazi generated one attack that led to a goal as well and our fullbacks generated NONE. That's the point I am making, shut down Mikeloses and our attack is buried. In defence, overload Echejile's wing and Balogun may not survive it, we will never know if Ekong can cover for Balogun because the cameroonians never utilised the oppurtunity. So maybe it isn't teamwork so to say, kinda one dimensional, too one-dimensional for a great team |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by freshest4live: 10:35pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Mickael2:You just want to criticize my guy, it's your right though, criticism is good, you speak as though we haven't played the likes of Spain, Argentina or ltaly before. Before now, l remember the hype of Basagog and the belief that he would skin our full backs alive, lol. The fact is we are not there yet, but you sir revel in this unnecessary overhype of opponents which many plastic fans are prone to. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:35pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
Icon4s:form your last paragraph@ why invite them to camp then if you believe they must not play? our problem here in Africa is our conservative approach to issues... we're allergic to change.... I repeat you will never know how good some of these SE bench warmers are..not until you give them a chance... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:36pm On Sep 07, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: that was why we scored 4 goals in that game, oh wait, we didn't. How many shots on target? Oh wait, none. I must mention one great chance that one northerner like that missed, apart from that the highlight of Mikel's match in that game was a driving run through the middle. Since Mikel didn't create any good chance doesn't that mean the DMF did his work? |
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