ashjay001:





U're fecking kidding me right?!

Quoting me stuff written by men, said to be inspiration from God, as proof of men being inspired by God!?



U seriously, dont know that u know not?! Ignorance is bliss.

Hope u realise, there was no bible? Just spiritual books from different authors?! Some of those spiritual books didnt even get to be included!? Under which acct will we put that one?

The ones included, had criterias they had to meet?(nicea circle). Men(Bishops), grouped themselves from all ovet n did point n kill with d books at their disposal n decided, which was qualified to be included in a book called d bible!?

The same stuff, u've been quoting copiously from!?

like i said:

johnw74:

but you know nothing about that, not having His Holy Spirit.

All the prophets have their third eyes functioning including Jesus whose about 3 decades of preparation is deliberately missing from most popular public records. Op it is not good, for now, that some undisciplined folks can see beyond necessary : for example how many marriages would have been if a fool can see hidden spousal infidelities? Christ warn us not to give our precious to swines less they trample on it hence he selected and trained few folks we call disciples because they have certain disciplines.

johnw74:


like i said:
but you know nothing about that, not having His Holy Spirit.

U try sha! At least, u refuse to revel in ur ignorance!

Unfortunately for u, we were all born with the spirit. We just dont get to access it equally.

If u think, ur God is going to hold d door open for only xtians, then u're definitely on a very long thing!

Have u heard of denisovans? Neanderthals? Homini Naledi?

From which one of all ds ancestors did adam n eve evolve from?

ashjay001:
Menxer, pls, can u continue and try ignore that ignoramus?!

The fool was born into xtianity and wont allow us to rest! He has failed to realise he could av been born into hindi, buddhism or even islam!

They are d fanatics, dogmatic till death!

I am reminded of the Bible admonishment not to give pearls to swine, because it won't appreciate it.

How are we to know the swines amongst men if not by their comments, after the Pearl is given them?

menxer:

I am reminded of the Bible admonishment not to give pearls to swine, because it won't appreciate it.

How are we to know the swines amongst men if not by their comments, after the Pearl is given them?

In this age of social media, even the swines have a voice

Babacele:
All the prophets have their third eyes functioning including Jesus whose about 3 decades of preparation is deliberately missing from most popular public records. Op it is not good, for now, that some undisciplined folks can see beyond necessary : for example how many marriages would have been if a fool can see hidden spousal infidelities? Christ warn us not to give our precious to swines less they trample on it hence he selected and trained few folks we call disciples because they have certain disciplines.

yes Jesus was talking to His disciples_Christians, telling them not to throw their pearls-truths to non believers-swine,
which includes the third eye sect here, who show their hate for God and His word.

ashjay001:





U try sha! At least, u refuse to revel in ur ignorance!

Unfortunately for u, we were all born with the spirit. We just dont get to access it equally.

If u think, ur God is going to hold d door open for only xtians, then u're definitely on a very long thing!

Have u heard of denisovans? Neanderthals? Homini Naledi?

From which one of all ds ancestors did adam n eve evolve from?

you are wrong, salvation is for Christians only
talking of Jesus:

Act_4:12  Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

ashjay001:


In this age of social media, even the swines have a voice

yes you do in this age of social media, it won't be for a lot longer though

Babacele:
All the prophets have their third eyes functioning including Jesus whose about 3 decades of preparation is deliberately missing from most popular public records. Op it is not good, for now, that some undisciplined folks can see beyond necessary : for example how many marriages would have been if a fool can see hidden spousal infidelities? Christ warn us not to give our precious to swines less they trample on it hence he selected and trained few folks we call disciples because they have certain disciplines.

But then, imagine a society where everyone has functioning third eye: no marriage scandal of any sorts, no crime, no hating, no environmental pollution or degradation as everyone would have been functioning at the highest level of consciousness.

menxer:

I am reminded of the Bible admonishment not to give pearls to swine, because it won't appreciate it.

How are we to know the swines amongst men if not by their comments, after the Pearl is given them?

for instance their comments showing their hate for God,
yes i agree with you totally menxer, it shows we can know who the swine are amongst men:

menxer:

the only way to see the God or the heaven you talk so passionately about

menxer:
.

OK, word of God defender

ashjay001:


U've lost out! To live thru life without enlightment!

it can be seen by language alone who has, and who hasn't enlightment:

ashjay001:


Just gtf off this thread n go bury ur head in ur bible! Ignorant mofo!

ashjay001:


U're fecking kidding me right?!

ashjay001:


He hasnt told u to bring sh*t!?

sorry ashjay U've lost out!

johnw74:


you are wrong, salvation is for Christians only
talking of Jesus:

Act_4:12  Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Jesus means saviour and the only one that will save you is your I AM Consciousness, which you must accept, and you can't have that understanding without a blooming pineal gland.

menxer:


Jesus means saviour and the only one that will save you is your I AM Consciousness, which you must accept, and you can't have that understanding without a blooming pineal gland.

Yeshua means Salvation, He is the one who saves,
I AM Consciousness is being aware of I AM, your being aware of I AM does not save you,
I AM, that is God Himsel, saves

you different sect believers have things in common
one of them is taking words and expressions from the Bible and using them for yourselves
but using them wrongly, giving them diffrent meanings to what the Bible does
but that is the way of satan, taking some truth from the Bible and then changing it to a lie

satan is where your so called enlightment which is darkness comes from;

Mat_6:23  But if thine eye(the things you look for-affections-desire) be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

you get your insperation from your god:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

menxer:


I asked you the mechanism of how inspiration is recieved, you say it's by thought.
SMH

you asked "how did the writers of the Bible receive the inspiration?"

and you menxer shake your head at truth, of course you do
i would ask for your opinion but i'm not intrested in it


God personally told moses what to say, while other prophets had dreams and visions from God, those dreams and visions of the prophets of course come from the mind
God's Spirit-mind gives prophecy to the prophets spirit-mind:

2Pe 1:20  Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 
2Pe 1:21  For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost,
God's spirit in them, spoke to their spirit through thought, that's how the mind works

not having God's Spirit you would not know that

johnw74:


Yeshua means Salvation, He is the one who saves,
I AM Consciousness is being aware of I AM, your being aware of I AM does not save you,
I AM, that is God Himsel, saves

And Jesus means what?
the difference between salvation and Saviour is what?

Hahahahaha

I AM Consciousness means acting in and with the consciousness that you are the I AM.

Let me use a mundane example: I AM the Creator of this thread, I AM the only one who can change the content of the OP.
You can extrapolate from there.

menxer:

1. And Jesus means what?

Hahahahaha



2. I AM Consciousness means acting in and with the consciousness that you are the I AM.

Let me use a mundane example: I AM the Creator of this thread, I AM the only one who can change the content of the OP.
You can extrapolate from there.

1. duh, again Yeshua-Jesus means Salvation

i'm sure it's a fool who laughs at his own confusion



2. "I AM" all capitalised is a name for God-Yahovah

(Exo 3:13)  And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
(Exo 3:14)  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

if you are talking about yourself then it is "I am"



you are still on that same path of getting it wrong

menxer:


the difference between salvation and Saviour is what?

that was a late addition to your post
and you really don't know

Hebrew words have meanings
Yeshua means salvation, it is Yeshua who saves

where as Saviour is a title-name for Yeshua-Jesus



you don't even know simple grammar very well

it's amazing, the very simple things that you ask to be explained

menxer:


You can extrapolate from there.

ha ha, as you see the extrapolating-confused conjecture, is still all yours

johnw74:



1. duh, again Yeshua-Jesus means Salvation

i'm sure it's a fool who laughs at his own confusion

2. "I AM" all capitalised is a name for God-Yahovah

(Exo 3:13)  And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
(Exo 3:14)  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

if you are talking about yourself then it is "I am"

you are still on that same path of getting it wrong

And as wise as you claim, you can't differentiate between salvation and Saviour?

The Bible was written in allegory just like other ancient scriptures, and allegories can be interpreted on many levels.
The problem is you are stuck on giving it a literal physical interpretation.

The Story of Moses is the story of our lives, untill we confront our challenges and limitations from or with the I AM Consciousness nothing changes.

I AM that I AM is putting the toroidal nature of Consciousness in words.

That's too deep for you to comprehend, I expect you to rend it to shreds.

menxer:

But then, imagine a society where everyone has functioning third eye: no marriage scandal of any sorts, no crime, no hating, no environmental pollution or degradation as everyone would have been functioning at the highest level of consciousness.

yea actually you are right but what is the present reality in the world? ....we are evolving.

johnw74:



that was a late addition to your post
and you really don't know

Hebrew words have meanings
Yeshua means salvation, it is Yeshua who saves

where as Saviour is a title-name for Yeshua-Jesus

you don't even know simple grammar very well

it's amazing, the very simple things that you ask to be explained

ha ha, as you see the extrapolating-confused conjecture, is still all yours

pay attention to the bolded:


The Oxford English Dictionary on Historical Principles (Oxford: The Clarendon Press, 1933), tells us that the word Jesus came into the English language from Middle English, adapted from the Latin Iesus, which in turn was adapted from the Greek Iesous. This in turn was adapted from the Hebrew or Aramaic word Yeshua or Yehoshua. The earlier root was Joshua. This dictionary goes on to explain that the word Joshua derived from the Jah of Jahveh, meaning that “Jehovah is salvation.” Thus, the word “Jesus” has parallel meaning with Savior. Dr. David Flusser of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem puts it simply: “Jesus is the common Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua.” (Encyclopedia Judaica, Jerusalem: Keter Publishing House, Ltd., 1971, 10:10.)


You can check up the meaning of "parallel"

johnw74:


yes Jesus was talking to His disciples_Christians, telling them not to throw their pearls-truths to non believers-swine,
which includes the third eye sect here, who show their hate for God and His word.

were Pharisees and saduccees who came under Jesus constant hammering unbelievers? are you not aware of the parable of the good Samaritan; Jesus dining with sinners and tax collectors; His acknowledgment of the faiths of the centurion and other so called unbelievers? Swines are a metaphor for those who don't value truth and are not ready to learn.

johnw74:


you are wrong, salvation is for Christians only
talking of Jesus:

Act_4:12  Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Yep! I guess ur God is cruel enough to destroy d work of his hands.

I have asked u several questions, u sidestepped them.

U really are just an empty barrel, lots of noise!

Will just, in d name of ur faith, leave us to our ways? U've wasted enough of our time already, nobody begrudges u, ur fanaticism.

If u need to defend ur bible, u can take it up with d muslim brotherhood. They claim ur Jesus was just a prophet. His birth wasnt immaculate.

Op here, only said Jesus's reference to a single eye, referenced d mystic third eye, dazzol.

Abeg shift. Who are u to stand in judgement over him sef?

johnw74:


you asked "how did the writers of the Bible receive the inspiration?"

and you menxer shake your head at truth, of course you do
i would ask for your opinion but i'm not intrested in it


God personally told moses what to say, while other prophets had dreams and visions from God, those dreams and visions of the prophets of course come from the mind
God's Spirit-mind gives prophecy to the prophets spirit-mind:

2Pe 1:20  Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 
2Pe 1:21  For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost,
God's spirit in them, spoke to their spirit through thought, that's how the mind works

not having God's Spirit you would not know that

Now, these prophets, have a special spirit, that God can communicate with. Since not everyone receives visions n prophecies from him.

Now, op, has come to tell us, how to open up our mind spirits for direct communication with God! It really doesnt even have to be ur God sef.


Would u, in the name of ur God, allow op to continue? As it is, he has spent like 4 pages going round in circles, trying to reason with ur irrational thoughts!?

U're part of d evil spirits, sent to divert men, from the pursuit of true knowledge!

U no wan chop, yet pple wey wan chop, u dey hold their hand!

ashjay001:


Yep! I guess ur God is cruel enough to destroy d work of his hands.

I have asked u several questions, u sidestepped them.

U really are just an empty barrel, lots of noise!

Will just, in d name of ur faith, leave us to our ways? U've wasted enough of our time already, nobody begrudges u, ur fanaticism.

If u need to defend ur bible, u can take it up with d muslim brotherhood. They claim ur Jesus was just a prophet. His birth wasnt immaculate.

Op here, only said Jesus's reference to a single eye, referenced d mystic third eye, dazzol.

Abeg shift. Who are u to stand in judgement over him sef?

@bolded, That is his speciality.

menxer:

@bolded, That is his speciality.

True that.

My pain is, it will just take a tiny leap of faith, for them to discover their spirituality, they will never take it!

menxer:


1. And as wise as you claim, you can't differentiate between salvation and Saviour?

2. The Bible was written in allegory just like other ancient scriptures, and allegories can be interpreted on many levels.
The problem is you are stuck on giving it a literal physical interpretation.

3. The Story of Moses is the story of our lives, untill we confront our challenges and limitations from or with the I AM Consciousness nothing changes.

4. I AM that I AM is putting the toroidal nature of Consciousness in words.

5. That's too deep for you to comprehend, I expect you to rend it to shreds.

1. i have done that but neither you or your third eye can see it

2. much of the Bible is literal and it's easy to see where it is figurative,
not for you, i know

3. your I AM Conciousness is just new age nonsense of taking things from the Bible
and giving them diffrent meanings, and starting new sects and sectarial beliefs
of course it's satans doing to deceive you from the truth



4. one would think that God saying:

"Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."

would tell one that "I AM" is God's name, but not you, you have been blinded
and your third eye only sees darkness:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mat_6:23 But if thine eye(the things you look for-affections-desire) be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

5. deeply confused is what it is

menxer:

pay attention to the bolded:


The Oxford English Dictionary on Historical Principles (Oxford: The Clarendon Press, 1933), tells us that the word Jesus came into the English language from Middle English, adapted from the Latin Iesus, which in turn was adapted from the Greek Iesous. This in turn was adapted from the Hebrew or Aramaic word Yeshua or Yehoshua. The earlier root was Joshua. This dictionary goes on to explain that the word Joshua derived from the Jah of Jahveh, meaning that “Jehovah is salvation.” Thus, the word “Jesus” has parallel meaning with Savior. Dr. David Flusser of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem puts it simply: “Jesus is the common Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua.” (Encyclopedia Judaica, Jerusalem: Keter Publishing House, Ltd., 1971, 10:10.)


You can check up the meaning of "parallel"

ha ha, in your confusion and dishonesty you try to have the words "Salvation" and "Saviour"
to mean something other than what they mean

truly as i already said: Yeshua means salvation, and it's referring to the act of saving
and truly as i already said: Saviour is a title-name for Yeshua-Jesus

johnw74:


Hebrew words have meanings
Yeshua means salvation, it is Yeshua who saves

where as Saviour is a title-name for Yeshua-Jesus



you don't even know simple grammar very well

it's amazing, the very simple things that you ask to be explained

Babacele:
were Pharisees and saduccees who came under Jesus constant hammering unbelievers?

of course they were unbelievers, do you think that the pharisees who said that Jesus done His miracles through the power of the devil, are believers?

Babacele:

are you not aware of the parable of the good Samaritan; Jesus dining with sinners and tax collectors; His acknowledgment of the faiths of the centurion and other so called unbelievers?

don't you know that Jesus came to save sinners:

Mar_2:17  When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Babacele:

Swines are a metaphor for those who don't value truth and are not ready to learn.

they don't value truth and they change it, and attack you with it
such as the third eye menxer and mob do here with posted scriptures.


"neither cast ye your pearls" before swine, "lest they trample them under their feet", and turn again and rend you."

..."the holy scriptures "........................"change what the scriptures say"......"and throw them back at you".

johnw74:


ha ha, in your confusion and dishonesty you try to have the words "Salvation" and "Saviour"
to mean something other than what they mean

truly as i already said: Yeshua means salvation, and it's referring to the act of saving
and truly as i already said: Saviour is a title-name for Yeshua-Jesus

I have nothing else to say to you, since you are the sole authority in Hebrew language interpretation.

ashjay001:


Yep! I guess ur God is cruel enough to destroy d work of his hands.

God will destroy satan who tried to put himself above Him
and he will destroy all those who follow satan

ashjay001:

I have asked u several questions, u sidestepped them.

it was probably garbage, or i wasn't interisted in what you had to say

ashjay001:


U really are just an empty barrel, lots of noise!

Will just, in d name of ur faith, leave us to our ways? U've wasted enough of our time already, nobody begrudges u, ur fanaticism.

If u need to defend ur bible, u can take it up with d muslim brotherhood. They claim ur Jesus was just a prophet. His birth wasnt immaculate.

Op here, only said Jesus's reference to a single eye, referenced d mystic third eye, dazzol.

Abeg shift. Who are u to stand in judgement over him sef?

^^^ that's the kind of garbage i wouldn't waste time answering

ashjay001:



Now, these prophets, have a special spirit, that God can communicate with. Since not everyone receives visions n prophecies from him.

Now, op, has come to tell us, how to open up our mind spirits for direct communication with God! It really doesnt even have to be ur God sef.


Would u, in the name of ur God, allow op to continue? As it is,

i told menxer if he wrongly uses God's word to foster his unbibical
beliefs that i will address it

he keeps bringing up God's word and i keep addressing the matter

and menxer posts to me and i reply

so what are you talking about, it looks like you have caught the confused xer bug

ashjay001:

he has spent like 4 pages going round in circles, trying to reason with ur irrational thoughts!?

U're part of d evil spirits, sent to divert men, from the pursuit of true knowledge!

U no wan chop, yet pple wey wan chop, u dey hold their hand!

there is more of your garbage that i'm not interisted right now in replying much to

johnw74:



God will destroy satan who tried to put himself above Him
and he will destroy all those who follow satan



it was probably garbage, or i wasn't interisted in what you had to say



^^^ that's the kind of garbage i wouldn't waste time answering

Bloody hypocrite! U claim I was un-enlighten because I insulted u. But, u see nothing wrong in u insulting me?!


For all I care, u can die with d bible up ur ass!? Who e epp? Ur loss fa!

Can u kindly carry ur myopic, hypocritical, blockheaded self out of this thread n let us commune in peace?!

For eons, ur God hasnt destroyed satan! He created satan too! For eons(billions of years), he didnt see it fit to destroy satan. But, on d say so of hallucinating fools like u, he will wake up one day n kill him?!