tbaba1234:



Game already played.

Yes, I noticed. Just posting it for us to access the performances of our players.

adegwurulez:

Which experience? Experience of playing 53games in 6years?

And how many games have both players in question played?

Redbeans u don get ur ticket ?
Trailblazer wer u dey o

tbaba1234:


Has Ilori agreed to play for Nigeria? Awaziem is currently playing at a higher level.

Did we approach him to ascertain his stance?

Tiago Ilori already played there and is currently playing in the Championship which is equally or better than some leagues.

eterisan:
right here following silently. Glad someone remembers.. Sir terzurum5...ok OK I will drop comments. Regarding the left back issue, I am deeply touched and sad at the amount of stick given echeijile. We know age is not on his side, he has lost a yard or two, but please....he is the best option we have right now.. Sad but true..

If you disagree, please name a natural left back of Nigerian origin, qualified to play for us, in any of the top 20 leagues in the world, [20 I mean expand the bracket] that will unseat ụwa. Rohr is no slouch, he knows what he is doing. He will continue to field the best we have, and right now ụwa is our best bet for a starting position atleft back... Show the dude some respect.

Disagree much give names.. And not make shift options.. Right now in the team we got Aina and Tyrone... Make shift options..... How did we even get here... I need to develop my left leg asap.. Lolz..... Or probably make a baby, force him to be a leftie with an eye on the left back position of the Eagles......

All am asking for is for ụwa to be shown some respect..... Cos he has held his own for years in the team.... And I can't remember any mistake he has done in recent games that cost us goals... Accept his limitations.. Uphold his strengths... We are a team...

PS..if ụwa gets injured before the world cup.. Then we are screwed.. SCREWED FROM ALL HOLES.. ASK KESHI AND THE LAST WORLD CUP WE PARTICIPATED.. peace I'm out.

I don't think anyone here is disrespecting elderson we are just pointing out his performances have been especially poor of late. You will agree that a national team that hopes to do well we can't continue to rely on one LB especially one who is not in form. Yes there aren't many natural left backs of Nigerian descent in top leagues but Aina can play makeshift and you can't tell me in the whole nigeria league you can't find a decent backup.

Yes his injury at the world cup was a loss but not a disaster like you are claiming we did ok without him with Juwon oshaniwa performing well elderson is ok but not indispensable

forgiveness:


And how many games have both players in question played?

Awaziem has 72 games in 2 years, Agbo has played 87games in 3years

Humility017:

sir watch him get injured...and see how one young lad makes judicious use of that opportunity...*God forbid he gets injured...

You think those currently sitting on the SE bench have no potentials or nothing to offer...
lot of them..are currently waiting for an opportunity to shine and never let go...

so forget it...there is no LB that can't be replaced...probably you forgot aina nura and ebuehi can all play that role

Already stated that Aina and Tyrone are our options there... The question is are they good enough to displace him yet... Those kids are rookies on the international stage... When push comes to shove experience will carry ụwa through... All I am asking for is we give him the respect he deserves.... Cc Sir icon4s

Well based on current laws, the UK government do not grant citizenship to foreigners born in the UK. So his entire logic is flawed.

forgiveness:

CHELSEA AND ENGLAND SHOULD OPPOSE NIGERIA’S TAMMY ABRAHAM PURSUIT

The latest rumours circulating about a young Chelsea player d[/b]o not deal with transfers or loans but with national team allegiance. If Nigeria are truly chasing Tammy Abraham, both England and Chelsea should be furious.

Tammy Abraham’s decision to play for either England or Nigeria matters deeply not only to the country he chooses, but to Chelsea FC as well. Whether you approach the question from logic or emotion, you reach the same very certain and very firm conclusion: Tammy Abraham should turn down every single advance from Nigeria and stick with England.

The first and most obvious point is that Tammy Abraham – though of Nigerian heritage – was born in Camberwell, London. He was born and raised and reared in the United Kingdom. Yes, his parents are of Nigerian heritage. But at what point does that stop mattering? Every person in the world can trace their bloodline back to some far-flung destination, yet that does not determine their nationality.

Abraham was born in London. He has been at Chelsea since he was eight years old. He did not move to England as a young boy. Tammy Abraham was born the second of October 1997 in perfect damn London, England. He is a wonderful young footballer and a funny, charming young man. He does not need to be peddled by some older, cynical managers and footballing bureaucrats in a strategic chess game of prospect-catching.

MUST READ: Chelsea's 3-4-3 alternatives: Is 3-1-4-2 the future for Antonio Conte's Blues?
The fact that Nigeria are even considering this is exactly what is wrong with international football in the first place. International football is not there to strategically pick your way to progress professionally, and it should not be about cynical attempts to further a brand. It is about pride in the country of your birth. Abraham is from England. Let him be from England.

It was wrong when Victor Moses changed nationalities, and when Diego Costa did it as well. This sort of behavior is to the detriment of the wonderful patriotic moments that make international football great.

If not simply for national pride, Chelsea should hope that Tammy Abraham plays for England for one simple reason: the African Cup of Nations. AFCON takes place in the middle of the Premier League season. If Tammy Abraham is going to be as good as people suspect he will be, then Chelsea need to keep him around.

RELATED STORY: Chelsea's Tammy Abraham must weigh depth, potential in Nigeria offer
Abraham draws comparisons to Ian Wright, and in younger age group trials outshone Kylian Mbappe. Abraham will make Harry Kane look like an incomplete and poor striker in a few years’ time, while taking a legitimate shot at Chelsea’s all-time goals record. The last thing Chelsea need is Abraham gone for a month and a half during a key part of the season.

AFCON is a wonderful footballing tournament played at a hysterically terrible time of year. In many ways it devalues some of the footballers in it, and makes it harder for some clubs to invest in them. Having Abraham play for Nigeria simply lowers his value for Chelsea FC. They will not have him around as often while he increases his risk of injury by playing in a full international tournament in less-than-spectacular conditions in the middle of a Premier League and Champions League season.

NEXT: Chelsea should start Tiemoue Bakayoko against Leicester as prep for Champions League
This move would not benefit anybody except the Nigerian Football Federation. Abraham is a phenomenal young player. He should be setting his sights high on success with the England national team – the country of his birth – not strategically trying to win caps playing for a country he has at most visited on emotional vacations.

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/901371251?-18946:4882:0

chrisooblog:
I don't think anyone here is disrespecting elderson we are just pointing out his performances have been especially poor of late. You will agree that a national team that hopes to do well we can't continue to rely on one LB especially one who is not in form. Yes there aren't many natural left backs of Nigerian descent in top leagues but Aina can play makeshift and you can't tell me in the whole nigeria league you can't find a decent backup.

Yes his injury at the world cup was a loss but not a disaster like you are claiming we did ok without him with Juwon oshaniwa performing well elderson is ok but not indispensable

I beg to disagree.. His injury was a disaster... Where is Oshaniwa... Now.... At the moment ụwa is indispensable... The sooner we realise this the better for all of us... His got experience at this level and on the big stage in top leagues at his side....... I repeat... He is our best bet at left back for now... Cept superman turns up in green n white for the spot.... The two games against Cameroon barring any injury or dreadful loss of form shows our team for the world cup... Quote me anywhere...

In reference to "make shift options", Rohr said in his interview that players cannot give conditions like they must be played in a specific position. Shehu is not a natural RB

Does that not tell you something?

eterisan:
right here following silently. Glad someone remembers.. Sir terzurum5...ok OK I will drop comments. Regarding the left back issue, I am deeply touched and sad at the amount of stick given echeijile. We know age is not on his side, he has lost a yard or two, but please....he is the best option we have right now.. Sad but true..

If you disagree, please name a natural left back of Nigerian origin, qualified to play for us, in any of the top 20 leagues in the world, [20 I mean expand the bracket] that will unseat ụwa. Rohr is no slouch, he knows what he is doing. He will continue to field the best we have, and right now ụwa is our best bet for a starting position atleft back... Show the dude some respect.

Disagree much give names.. And not make shift options.. Right now in the team we got Aina and Tyrone... Make shift options..... How did we even get here... I need to develop my left leg asap.. Lolz..... Or probably make a baby, force him to be a leftie with an eye on the left back position of the Eagles......

All am asking for is for ụwa to be shown some respect..... Cos he has held his own for years in the team.... And I can't remember any mistake he has done in recent games that cost us goals... Accept his limitations.. Uphold his strengths... We are a team...

PS..if ụwa gets injured before the world cup.. Then we are screwed.. SCREWED FROM ALL HOLES.. ASK KESHI AND THE LAST WORLD CUP WE PARTICIPATED.. peace I'm out.

forgiveness:

CHELSEA AND ENGLAND SHOULD OPPOSE NIGERIA’S TAMMY ABRAHAM PURSUIT

The latest rumours circulating about a young Chelsea player d[/b]o not deal with transfers or loans but with national team allegiance. If Nigeria are truly chasing Tammy Abraham, both England and Chelsea should be furious.

Tammy Abraham’s decision to play for either England or Nigeria matters deeply not only to the country he chooses, but to Chelsea FC as well. Whether you approach the question from logic or emotion, you reach the same very certain and very firm conclusion: Tammy Abraham should turn down every single advance from Nigeria and stick with England.

The first and most obvious point is that Tammy Abraham – though of Nigerian heritage – was born in Camberwell, London. He was born and raised and reared in the United Kingdom. Yes, his parents are of Nigerian heritage. But at what point does that stop mattering? Every person in the world can trace their bloodline back to some far-flung destination, yet that does not determine their nationality.

Abraham was born in London. He has been at Chelsea since he was eight years old. He did not move to England as a young boy. Tammy Abraham was born the second of October 1997 in perfect damn London, England. He is a wonderful young footballer and a funny, charming young man. He does not need to be peddled by some older, cynical managers and footballing bureaucrats in a strategic chess game of prospect-catching.

MUST READ: Chelsea's 3-4-3 alternatives: Is 3-1-4-2 the future for Antonio Conte's Blues?
The fact that Nigeria are even considering this is exactly what is wrong with international football in the first place. International football is not there to strategically pick your way to progress professionally, and it should not be about cynical attempts to further a brand. It is about pride in the country of your birth. Abraham is from England. Let him be from England.

It was wrong when Victor Moses changed nationalities, and when Diego Costa did it as well. This sort of behavior is to the detriment of the wonderful patriotic moments that make international football great.

If not simply for national pride, Chelsea should hope that Tammy Abraham plays for England for one simple reason: the African Cup of Nations. AFCON takes place in the middle of the Premier League season. If Tammy Abraham is going to be as good as people suspect he will be, then Chelsea need to keep him around.

RELATED STORY: Chelsea's Tammy Abraham must weigh depth, potential in Nigeria offer
Abraham draws comparisons to Ian Wright, and in younger age group trials outshone Kylian Mbappe. Abraham will make Harry Kane look like an incomplete and poor striker in a few years’ time, while taking a legitimate shot at Chelsea’s all-time goals record. The last thing Chelsea need is Abraham gone for a month and a half during a key part of the season.

AFCON is a wonderful footballing tournament played at a hysterically terrible time of year. In many ways it devalues some of the footballers in it, and makes it harder for some clubs to invest in them. Having Abraham play for Nigeria simply lowers his value for Chelsea FC. They will not have him around as often while he increases his risk of injury by playing in a full international tournament in less-than-spectacular conditions in the middle of a Premier League and Champions League season.

NEXT: Chelsea should start Tiemoue Bakayoko against Leicester as prep for Champions League
This move would not benefit anybody except the Nigerian Football Federation. Abraham is a phenomenal young player. He should be setting his sights high on success with the England national team – the country of his birth – not strategically trying to win caps playing for a country he has at most visited on emotional vacations.

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/901371251?-18946:4882:0

the author should go and sit down

The tourney is gonna be moved to end of season

libero808:
In reference to "make shift options", Rohr said in his interview that players cannot give conditions like they must be played in a specific position. Shehu is not a natural RB

Does that not tell you something?

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With the fore knowledge that shehu has been playing RB for us for like forever... I will comfortably tag him a right back... Well the interview only reiterates the fact that Aina and Tyrone are the options for LB n RB in the team.... My point is this bashing of ụwa should stop just because we have got a shiny new toy....

The SA game is still fresh in memory... Awaziem .. Anybody...... Hello...

Let's hypothetically say ụwa picks an injury that keeps him out for a year.... What will be your gut instinct... Guess it will be Ọ.. GOD.... not again... We lack real options at left back... We are banking on make shifts (kids) and we slate the only real option we have.... *sighs*... Naija... For warri we say at all at all na winch.. Mek we manage am abeg...

FFS! Chelsea need to get Ola Aina out of that shitty Hull City team ASAP.Thank God Ahmed Musa and Isaac Success did not move there. Aina dished out pinpoint perfect crosses but their shitty forwards still could not convert any of it.Worst of all,Aina darted into the penalty area making a meal of 2 derby players and won a penalty in the process when his team were still 1 goal behind but the player who took the penalty blasted it over the bar.Chelsea have a recall clause in his loan agreement so they should recall him ASAP before negative vibes start affecting him.

adegwurulez:

Awaziem has 72 games in 2 years, Agbo has played 87games in 3years

Where? Bhuuuhahaha!

In Segunda Liga and Segunda B!?

AndreTAyodeji:
FFS! Chelsea need to get Ola Aina out of that shitty Hull City team ASAP.Thank God Ahmed Musa and Isaac Success did not move there. Aina dished out pinpoint perfect crosses but their shitty forwards still could not convert any of it.Worst of all,Aina darted into the penalty area making a meal of 2 derby players and won a penalty in the process when his team were still 1 goal behind but the player who took the penalty blasted it over the bar.Chelsea have a recall clause in his loan agreement so they should recall him ASAP before negative vibes start affecting him.

I say let him continue playing at hull. Right now moses and zapacosta are ahead of him at chelsea

libero808:
I've been reading a lot about Pinnick on Tammy lately. I think Pinnick's comment is quite cocky. The boy may not be happy about it.

Sorry but you will not understand the rappor he is talking about.

Dis na Warri matter, Area.

forgiveness:


Where? Bhuuuhahaha!

In Segunda Liga and Segunda B!?

20 of Ilori's 53 games were for sporting B team so I don't get your point

forgiveness:

CHELSEA AND ENGLAND SHOULD OPPOSE NIGERIA’S TAMMY ABRAHAM PURSUIT

The latest rumours circulating about a young Chelsea player d[/b]o not deal with transfers or loans but with national team allegiance. If Nigeria are truly chasing Tammy Abraham, both England and Chelsea should be furious.

Tammy Abraham’s decision to play for either England or Nigeria matters deeply not only to the country he chooses, but to Chelsea FC as well. Whether you approach the question from logic or emotion, you reach the same very certain and very firm conclusion: Tammy Abraham should turn down every single advance from Nigeria and stick with England.

The first and most obvious point is that Tammy Abraham – though of Nigerian heritage – was born in Camberwell, London. He was born and raised and reared in the United Kingdom. Yes, his parents are of Nigerian heritage. But at what point does that stop mattering? Every person in the world can trace their bloodline back to some far-flung destination, yet that does not determine their nationality.

Abraham was born in London. He has been at Chelsea since he was eight years old. He did not move to England as a young boy. Tammy Abraham was born the second of October 1997 in perfect damn London, England. He is a wonderful young footballer and a funny, charming young man. He does not need to be peddled by some older, cynical managers and footballing bureaucrats in a strategic chess game of prospect-catching.

MUST READ: Chelsea's 3-4-3 alternatives: Is 3-1-4-2 the future for Antonio Conte's Blues?
The fact that Nigeria are even considering this is exactly what is wrong with international football in the first place. International football is not there to strategically pick your way to progress professionally, and it should not be about cynical attempts to further a brand. It is about pride in the country of your birth. Abraham is from England. Let him be from England.

It was wrong when Victor Moses changed nationalities, and when Diego Costa did it as well. This sort of behavior is to the detriment of the wonderful patriotic moments that make international football great.

If not simply for national pride, Chelsea should hope that Tammy Abraham plays for England for one simple reason: the African Cup of Nations. AFCON takes place in the middle of the Premier League season. If Tammy Abraham is going to be as good as people suspect he will be, then Chelsea need to keep him around.

RELATED STORY: Chelsea's Tammy Abraham must weigh depth, potential in Nigeria offer
Abraham draws comparisons to Ian Wright, and in younger age group trials outshone Kylian Mbappe. Abraham will make Harry Kane look like an incomplete and poor striker in a few years’ time, while taking a legitimate shot at Chelsea’s all-time goals record. The last thing Chelsea need is Abraham gone for a month and a half during a key part of the season.

AFCON is a wonderful footballing tournament played at a hysterically terrible time of year. In many ways it devalues some of the footballers in it, and makes it harder for some clubs to invest in them. Having Abraham play for Nigeria simply lowers his value for Chelsea FC. They will not have him around as often while he increases his risk of injury by playing in a full international tournament in less-than-spectacular conditions in the middle of a Premier League and Champions League season.

NEXT: Chelsea should start Tiemoue Bakayoko against Leicester as prep for Champions League
This move would not benefit anybody except the Nigerian Football Federation. Abraham is a phenomenal young player. He should be setting his sights high on success with the England national team – the country of his birth – not strategically trying to win caps playing for a country he has at most visited on emotional vacations.

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/901371251?-18946:4882:0

This is an unbelievably poor piece of writing - too superficial and even it's appeal to emotional factors aims more at manipulation and shameless scare tactics rather than advancing sound reasons for Tammy to play for England rather than Nigeria. I am a fan of the SE and the Three Lions but I love my Eagles and desire we field the peak of the best we have when we qualify for the World Cup. But I wish the young man the best whoever he eventually chooses.

tbaba1234:
Very honest interview by Rohr..

He's quite passionate about building a young, vibrant team. Puts a lot of premium on team spirit and morale.

adegwurulez:

20 of Ilori's 53 games were for sporting B team so I don't get your point

Where are you pulling your statistics from?

Tiago Ilori is more experienced than Agbo and Awaziem. Why?

He has played in the top leagues from Portugal to Spain and France.

safarigirl:
it mostly is

Welcome to the thread....you seem cool, the guys will love you. They hate me

I don't know where you get the notion of HATE.

Disagreements yes but they are welcome as they are not hidden in rhetoric. But show you are passionate, plain spoken, straightforward and yes very impulsive.

Which is a reflection of your youthful exuberance and possible limited interactions but not in a bad way. It's actually amusing reminds me how I use to be.

adegwurulez:

I say let him continue playing at hull. Right now moses and zapacosta are ahead of him at chelsea

Playing time is essential in a player's development but not when the club you are getting the play time is shitty and are always conceeding 5 goals in every matches.You know,it doesn't help his confidence.Agree with you though, he wont get the playing time at chelsea but he can still be loaned to a better team in January.Honestly,i just feel for the lad.

TheGoodJoe:
tbaba1234 thank you for the nice post on Gernot Rohr.

From the interview, I can see we have a very sound technical Adviser and team manager. Looks the right man to lead the team. His founding principles are solid and I think we the supporters need to buy into his philosophies. (I am also guilty of this)
He wants everyone to trust the decision of the team manager. I think that includes the fans and supporters.

A good point is that his scouting department are doing their best to monitor most of our players, especially during the weekend. He also wants the team flexible playing different styles and formations. Including the parked bus system I detest so much. He believes in a balance of youth and experience. So we should not expect him throwing any bright new shining object into the team. He will blend in players with time. Not rash and he will maintain a solid balance to the best of his ability.

He wants the team United along with the NFF. He believes in the team but wants us respecting every opponent. In football, anything can happen.

He still consider Enyeama a key member of the team but he might not rush Enyeama into the team. Also, Enyeama might not wear the captain band.

Nice interview that got us a chance to know the coach better.

Hahahaha hahahaha @parked bus system. All credit to Mourinho for introducing this hellish but effective brand into football.

forgiveness:




Where you pulling your statistics from?

Tiago Ilori is more experienced than Agbo and Awaziem. Why?

He has played in the top leagues from Portugal to Spain and France.

Lol... I don't do stats, they are most times misleading, but you came under the false assumptions that Tiago Ilori is a better choice for CB than Awaziem and Agbo, citing his "experience'.

A deep look at this claim proves it to be false. One simply does not garner experience sitting on the bench which is what Ilori has been doing.

9games for Granada, 12 for Bordeaux, 0 for Aston Villa can hardly be termed playing from Portugal to Spain to France.

eterisan:
right here following silently. Glad someone remembers.. Sir terzurum5...ok OK I will drop comments. Regarding the left back issue, I am deeply touched and sad at the amount of stick given echeijile. We know age is not on his side, he has lost a yard or two, but please....he is the best option we have right now.. Sad but true..

If you disagree, please name a natural left back of Nigerian origin, qualified to play for us, in any of the top 20 leagues in the world, [20 I mean expand the bracket] that will unseat ụwa. Rohr is no slouch, he knows what he is doing. He will continue to field the best we have, and right now ụwa is our best bet for a starting position atleft back... Show the dude some respect.

Disagree much give names.. And not make shift options.. Right now in the team we got Aina and Tyrone... Make shift options..... How did we even get here... I need to develop my left leg asap.. Lolz..... Or probably make a baby, force him to be a leftie with an eye on the left back position of the Eagles......

All am asking for is for ụwa to be shown some respect..... Cos he has held his own for years in the team.... And I can't remember any mistake he has done in recent games that cost us goals... Accept his limitations.. Uphold his strengths... We are a team...

PS..if ụwa gets injured before the world cup.. Then we are screwed.. SCREWED FROM ALL HOLES.. ASK KESHI AND THE LAST WORLD CUP WE PARTICIPATED.. peace I'm out.

As you probably know the left back position has progressed to the more commonly referred to term LWB (left wing back).

As a consequence left wingers have fused into the LWB position. As it is essentially a more defensive minded winger.

With this in mind I would say Seyi Ojo Liverpool fc currently at Fulham fc with Sone Aluko.

cromz:
we can't lose him bro remember he has his choice and I think his father will persuade him to play for us because our golden generation is better than theirs .

What do you mean

adegwurulez:

Lol... I don't do stats, they are most times misleading, but you came under the false assumptions that Tiago Ilori is a better choice for CB than Awaziem and Agbo, citing his "experience'.

A deep look at this claim proves it to be false. One simply does not garner experience sitting on the bench which is what Ilori has been doing.

9games for Granada, 12 for Bordeaux, 0 for Aston Villa can hardly be termed playing from Portugal to Spain to France.

Point of correction, 15 games for Bordeaux, 14 for Sporting Lisbon, 3 for Liverpool and currently 12 for Reading-fc.

Where did he play them? In Somalia?

Now, show me how easy it is to say Agbo and Awaziem better choice or experienced than Tiago.

Give me their breakdown as you did for Tiago.

komekn:


As you probably know the left back position has progressed to the more commonly referred to term LWB (left wing back).

As a consequence left wingers have fused into the LWB position. As it is essentially a more defensive minded winger.

With this in mind I would say Seyi Ojo Liverpool fc currently at Fulham fc with Sone Aluko.

On a personal note, is Sheyi Ojo interested in playing for Nigeria.

adegwurulez:

Lol... I don't do stats, they are most times misleading, but you came under the false assumptions that Tiago Ilori is a better choice for CB than Awaziem and Agbo, citing his "experience'.

A deep look at this claim proves it to be false. One simply does not garner experience sitting on the bench which is what Ilori has been doing.

9games for Granada, 12 for Bordeaux, 0 for Aston Villa can hardly be termed playing from Portugal to Spain to France.

He didn't sit on the bench but was always out due to injuries.

forgiveness:



Tiago Ilori is more experienced than Agbo and Awaziem.

We don't even have back up self.

Apart from Balogun and Ekong, which other CB do we have?

Why are you mentioning Tiago Ilori?
what's special about him?? He would have played for Portugal senior team had his move to Liverpool been successful.
it's not every player with Nigerian heritage that we should be calling to play for us na. Let's preserve some dignity please.