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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by jom28gy(m): 1:44pm On Sep 10, 2017
It baffled me why some the north would said that they loved Nigeria and would refused to do good for the country,by blatantly refused to accept restructuring.so where is the love?you professed for Nigeria.

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by Viergeachar: 3:09pm On Sep 10, 2017
For real?

Nigeria must be restructured!

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by YelloweWest: 3:09pm On Sep 10, 2017
Insult. Who do they think they are??

This is why the whole south need to unite against these parasites.

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by IYANGBALI: 3:09pm On Sep 10, 2017
What are the northeners afraid of?

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by okerekeikpo: 3:11pm On Sep 10, 2017
The kind moral wey this northerners. Get for this country amazes me, how come they feel they are untouchable

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by WOCKHARDI(m): 3:14pm On Sep 10, 2017
“But, if you say that we should go back to 1963, that will be something that will be difficult to sustain. Just like the National Assembly is on the verge of amending the constitution, we can look at areas we think should be amended and make the necessary recommendations".
The whole Constitution is faulty from the beginning to the end. We need a new one produced by "We the people" in the real sense of the word. You are referring to the National Assembly because you are in the majority and will always vote against any amendment that doesn't favour the North. If you must, amend the Constitution to call for a Referendum since you are not selfish and the main beneficiary of the present one. Or are you afraid of losing your dominance on the affairs of the country?
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by GMbuharii: 3:14pm On Sep 10, 2017
IYANGBALI:
What are the northeners afraid of?
ikebe..especially those yoruba black thick babes ikebe grin grin
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by IYANGBALI: 3:15pm On Sep 10, 2017
GMbuharii:


ikebe..especially those yoruba black thick babes ikebe grin grin
in that case let's g our separate ways

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by Tajbol4splend(m): 3:17pm On Sep 10, 2017
PureMe01:
pls tell him.Yorubas are Northerners to a default


But Yorubas fall into the South Western part of Nigeria, so Yoruba and some igbos and others are referred to as southern parts
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by ivolt: 3:17pm On Sep 10, 2017
DickDastardLION:
Alimi Onslaught Survivors are the major Southern Problem .... they live in pepertual fear of their conqueror, hence their sabotage of every southern progress plan cool

Another Coward spotted, always looking for someone to fight his battles.
Shame!

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by LasGidiOwner: 3:18pm On Sep 10, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:


We want resource control, fiscal federalism and power devolution to federating units not a complete return to 1963 Constitution


These were spelt out in the 1963 constitution.

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by ICEMAN(m): 3:19pm On Sep 10, 2017
The North are parasites. It is time to pay the piper. No more free rides.

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by Viergeachar: 3:19pm On Sep 10, 2017
Etogist:
A master warning his slave to keep quiet and enjoy the rape or ...

Alas, a loooonatic posts...

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by GMbuharii: 3:22pm On Sep 10, 2017
IYANGBALI:
in that case let's g our separate ways
yesso,buh nothing can separate me from those dark skinned yoruba babes o
buh wambi,kilo se e,you've nah been this strict b4,buharinomics don hold u? grin

YelloweWest:
Insult. Who do they think they are??

This is why the whole south need to unite against these parasites.

correct..we can sort ourselves out later..

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by Dindondin(m): 3:23pm On Sep 10, 2017
DickDastardLION:
Alimi Onslaught Survivors are the major Southern Problem .... they live in pepertual fear of their conqueror, hence their sabotage of every southern progress plan cool
You know Alimi only existed in Ilorin. Ilorin is not the whole of Yoruba towns.
The southwest tried to talk about what the SE and SS ll love to hear at the Ibadan meeting but you are here mocking it. Receive brain

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by PureMe01: 3:27pm On Sep 10, 2017
Tajbol4splend:



But Yorubas fall into the South Western part of Nigeria, so Yoruba and some igbos and others are referred to as southern parts
until una start dey behave like Southerners.Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani has no difference

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by ITbomb(m): 3:28pm On Sep 10, 2017
Reference to 1963 was to use it as a template or baseline for further negotiations not to accept it in its entirety.

For me, that's the best starting point but left for me, I would prefer the 12 original states to be considered the Regions of the New Nigeria

That arrangement is best especially for the minority group of SS and Middle Belt

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by Isahalbash(m): 3:32pm On Sep 10, 2017
Stingman:


The north understands one language...Violence...

Can you imagine if the Igbos or Ijaws or Yorubas were the group killing people across the country like the Fulani herdsmen are doing? There would have since been massive riots in Kano, Katsina, Niger, Sokoto, Borno, Kaduna, Jigawa, Adamawa, Zamfara...killing christians and destroying the shops of southerners...Then the government would have ordered the army, navy, airforce, police and DSS to disarm the group within 24 hours...But now what do we have the Yorubas are mocking the Igbos and the Igbos are movking the Yorubas in turn...and the fulani herdsmen continue to rape,kill and raze down communities...no riots anywhere...How long shall the south continue living in this way?

The same goes for the constitution change. If the north wants it, they would deploy the same technique...They will send the almajiris to the streets to cause mayhem...and the government would listen...









So, whenever there's conflicts in d south btw Hausas nd their host, Christians r killed in Jigawa state?
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by FBIL: 3:34pm On Sep 10, 2017
Yorubas should not be blindfolded by (1) Osibanjo, Obasanjo, Fashola etc. are there for us (2) Any how Buhari shares it, even if he takes 70%, we must take 20% and may be SS & SE can share 10% THIS IS ILLUSION, and shall only tarry for awhile. YORUBAS should strongly, without conditions, align with SE, SS to actualize DEVOLUTION OF POWER OR TOTAL RESTRUCTURING. I don't want disintegration but every region should have freedom to better their roads, education, healthcare, social services, security and good life for all. The NORTH hates good life, they abhor prosperity and enjoy laziness. We should have regions where foreigners can crave to come and live in, pay fees to study our language and move freely at night unmolested.

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by Kingspin(m): 3:35pm On Sep 10, 2017
Aboki will know no sense. Europe, China, India and others are ending petrol and diesel cars 10 years from now yet some people will not think clearly, what a useless and wasteful set of people. Development of Nigeria should be taking by force from these animals.. All they know is killing innocent people. They can go to hell Mecca. Nonsense.

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by Tajbol4splend(m): 3:36pm On Sep 10, 2017
PureMe01:
until una start dey behave like Southerners.Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani has no difference



Has no difference? So what makes us the same

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by cosmos1440: 3:36pm On Sep 10, 2017
chiagozien:
We yoruba muslim are in support of this.we have to warn our christian brothers not to join ipob to cause problem for nigeria.nigeria is better the way it is now.
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by cosmos1440: 3:38pm On Sep 10, 2017
chiagozien:
They will start attacking igbos now.coward tribe.i no call name but they know themselves.

bloody liar
yoruba muslim indeed
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by starz100: 3:40pm On Sep 10, 2017
The north will not want to lose the status quo. For the south to achieve its objective it must continue to mount more pressure on the north to 'let my people go'.An Nnamdi Kanu will have to arise from the SW, N-D and other regions for ' freedom'

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by SuccesYear: 3:42pm On Sep 10, 2017
hammerFU:
Wateva, remove the SS/SE entirely from your caution.

If u want to talk to yorubas do so.

Dont eva place us together.
Last time I checked on map SE different from SS .......why the merger naw .......u think say if 9ja disintegrate SS no go get her own Republic. Carrot & Stick friendship

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by SuccesYear: 3:45pm On Sep 10, 2017
Stingman:
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Once you have geography/maps screwed in your head, you will understand that Yorubas are in the south. I agree that they are pro-north, but my questions are relevant. I have not asked that the Yoruba and the SE/SS must come together. So what are you bitching about? What part of my comment do you have difficulty...understanding?
Even to be clear sef. Is SS same with SE . I believe my SS people no want to play fiddle as dey jst dey observe SE counterparts...... Na uppercut tinz
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by brownlolly(m): 3:46pm On Sep 10, 2017
FBIL:
Yorubas should not be blindfolded by (1) Osibanjo, Obasanjo, Fashola etc. are there for us (2) Any how Buhari shares it, even if he takes 70%, we must take 20% and may be SS & SE can share 10% THIS IS ILLUSION, and shall only tarry for awhile. YORUBAS should strongly, without conditions, align with SE, SS to actualize DEVOLUTION OF POWER OR TOTAL RESTRUCTURING. I don't want disintegration but every region should have freedom to better their roads, education, healthcare, social services, security and good life for all. The NORTH hates good life, they abhor prosperity and enjoy laziness. We should have regions where foreigners can crave to come and live in, pay fees to study our language and move freely at night unmolested.

You know why Yoruba people will not align with the SE (leave the SS out of this cos we dont have a problem with them. As a matter of fact, Bayelsans don't like Ibos and openly display their disapproval when passing through Onitsha), Ibos with the Biafran dream are full of hate of the Yoruba people and somehow think we are the reason for their misfortune. The same mistake they made that caused the civil war is what they are trying again. I understand that it is good to be passionate about your freedom and dreams, but you cannot be too overambitious like Icarus that flew too close to the sun with wings made of wax. Even when Obasanjo was President, we did not support our own. We knew he wasn't meeting our expectations. That's just how we are. Call us betrayers or any other name. We don't care cos regardless of what you think or say, we are progressing.

That's the mindset Ibos need to adopt. The ways of the wise.

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by Adebowale89(m): 3:49pm On Sep 10, 2017
hammerFU:



South does not include Yorubas, they are part of the NorthWest muslims.

South is the SS/SE.

Wen u stop making obvious mistake, u stop asking silly questions.







you're a baby to make such ridiculous statement. I don't know what history u were told about Yorubas but Yorubas remain the best in all region


we always subscribe for peace to reign unlike u people that vouch for violence and agitation everytime.


human race before regional race, that's the hallmark of any Yoruba, u can find out that if necessary



Yoruba remain the giant of southern Nigeria anyday anytime, that's why they can't be relegated in Nigeria institutions


why do u think northern don't take you people serious when u make threat or summon meeting? any meeting summon by southwesterners is always calling for attention from the north because they know our primitive steps can tamed their intention



its right time for southwest to stop playing we are all one and unite with other southern regions to prevent the future beef of the northerners against southerners because the beef is becoming glaring

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by sainty2k3(m): 3:49pm On Sep 10, 2017
hammerFU:


Until our people wake up and take the bull by the horn they will keep going from pillar to post.

Wat we have today is SS/SE being used for other region agenda.

Like u rightly said, resource control and self-governance is our paramount need.

We dont need Yorubas or their Northern brothers.

We need to be in charge of our land and be responsible. It is really dat simple.

And why are u talking about SS and SE together, why not talk for your own region alone and leave the other.
That's one of the greatest insincerity I have observed ,SE want to dissociate from Nigeria but want to be with SS. Abeg who is a parasite

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by riseabovehate: 3:51pm On Sep 10, 2017
Stingman:
• 1963 Constitution, The Ideal Grundnorm – Middle Belt Ethnic Nationalities
• Going Back To 1963 Constitution Not Tenable-Arewa Youths
• Yakasai Supports Return To 1963 Constitution

Northern elders and youths have cautioned the Yoruba, their South East and South South neighbours over their clamour for the country’s restructuring, as well as return to the 1963 constitution.

The two groups, which vehemently opposed the recent resolution of the Yoruba at a summit tagged, “Restructuring: The Yoruba Agenda 2017,” alleged that sustained agitation for restructuring would, in the final analysis, not augur well for the growth and development of the nation.

Secretary General, Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF) Anthony Sani, told The Guardian, yesterday, that calls for restructuring by the coalition of Yoruba groups, and those from South East and South South, as well as the return to 1960 and 1963 constitution were “puzzling.”

Arewa youths’ position was made known by President of the Arewa Youths for Progress and Development (AYPD), Comrade Danjuma Sarki, who said though “the constitution we are currently operating was hurriedly put together by the military in order for them to hand over power to civilians,” there were better ways to improve on it.

Sani said the calls were “puzzling in the sense that these are people, who profess to be jaunty face of democratic values, and who are expected to know how democracy works. I would not be tired of saying that while there are national consensus on problems of a nation, there are no similar national consensus on solutions to these problems. Hence the significance of multi-party democracy, which allows each political party to present a distinct method of solution as contained in the party’s manifesto, which it used
to canvass for electoral mandate.”

Sani argued that, “for the Yoruba to now call for restructuring of the country on the basis of the 1963 constitution, gives an impression that they do not know how to make their desires possible in a multi-party democracy.”

He maintained that, however good and laudable restructuring of the country may be, it has to be decided by Nigerians through a democratic process; no few people can make that decision on behalf of Nigerians.

“I am not sure if their restructuring is the panacea for the national malaise we are in. I say this because Nigeria practiced the confederate arrangement as symbolised by regionalism and parliamentary systems of government during the First Republic. These were abolished and supplanted by a unitary system by General Aguyi Ironsi, who felt the centre under confederation was too weak to keep the nation under one roof.”

The ACF scribe added that, “the North and the West, under Chief Awolowo decided to create a federation of 12 states, which was a compromise between confederation and the unitary system,” noting that “since then, the states multiplied to 19, 30 and now 36, while we practice presidential system of government.”

Sani, who said some of those clamouring for the rejection of the 1999 constitution that is a clone of that of 1979 participated in its making, queried how the Federal Government under 1999 constitution, prevents state governments from living to their potential?

He said: “Lagos is developing today under the 1999 constitution, and nobody has stopped them from deploying what they collect from the federation account and internally generated revenue for development at their own pace. Is the Coalition of Yoruba groups claiming state governments misapply their own allocations because the sources are not from the states? This does not make sense. And can we honestly say the 52 per cent for the centre is truly too much in a country with many centres of centrifugal forces capable of putting it asunder? As far as I am concerned, there is nothing like true federalism that is universally accepted. That is why there are no two federal systems that are the same. Each federal system depends on the circumstance of its emergence…”

On how the nation can best be restructured under the present reality, the ACF Secretary General remarked: “as it is right now, the term restructuring means different things to different people. As a result, it is hard to take a position in a situation like that. And in order for Nigerians to make their informed judgment on restructuring, let political parties that wish to restructure the country include it in its manifestoes and canvass for electoral mandate needed for their implementation. I am sure when political parties campaign for their preferred model of restructuring the country, they would help to enlighten the public more about restructuring and make informed decisions during elections. That is how democracy works. It is not for the few people to meet and try to bulldoze the government into taking decisions in favour of far-reaching reforms of the polity. That course of action would not only be undemocratic, but also morally preposterous. This is more so because the current regime did not include specific type of restructuring in its manifesto.”

Sarki, the AYPD helmsman said: “To be realistic, going back to the 1963 constitution is not tenable,” adding that the country should rather review the 1963 to 1999 constitutions. If we look at issues that will promote the unity of Nigeria and propel growth in the country, that will bring everybody together and also promote the principle of inclusion.

“But, if you say that we should go back to 1963, that will be something that will be difficult to sustain. Just like the National Assembly is on the verge of amending the constitution, we can look at areas we think should be amended and make the necessary recommendations.

“The National Assembly should also take into consideration, positions that those, who elected them want. They should ensure that the interests of all regions are covered. Something that would bring about fairness, justice, equity and acceptability of the union called Nigeria. This is because most of the agitations for restructuring are borne out of the feelings of unfairness by people. We want to advise that those who are agitating for a return to the 1963 constitution should soft pedal so that we can move forward,” Sarki said.

For the Association of Middle Belt Ethnic Nationalities (ASMBEN), that the 1963 Republican Constitution was the ideal grundnorm for the country is not a novel development, what is novel, the group said is the urgency to return to it.

According to its interim chairman, Sule Kwasau, “Nigeria is hanging on a precipice and has never been divided on ethnic and religious lines as it is now. The 1999 constitution is fraught with so many anomalies, lies. The 1999 constitution is a military constitution and in making it, the powers that be were substantially from a section of the country and so the opinions of other sections of the country were never captured, as they had no representatives in the military leadership then.

“Why are some Nigerians nostalgic about the 1963 Republican Constitution as against the 1999 military constitution? It is simply because the 1999 constitution is a military constitution, but claims to be a federal constitution,” the interim leader said.

He continued: “The provisions contained therein cannot bring about even development. Again, the presidential system is very expensive, unlike the 1963 constitution, which recognises regions as federating units, with powers to do most of what is contained in the exclusive legislative list under the 1999 constitution.

The 1963 constitution also guarantees true federalism by providing for principles of derivation, which is 50 per cent for oil producing regions. It also encourages healthy competition among the diverse regions.”

Kwasau said his group, however, prefers the implementation of 2014 National Conference Report, “but if that is not possible, then a brand new constitution should be brought into existence.

“This is important because the constitutionally unrecognised six political zones of the federating units will short-change the Middle Belters because we were arbitrarily lumped with people we do not share the same culture with, eg, Southern Kaduna, Southern Kebbi, Southern Borno etc., who naturally belong to the Middle Belt. The other solution will be to create additional regions in the North to address our fears,” he said.

Meanwhile, contrary to the position of ACF, elder statesman, Tanko Yakasai, has thrown his weight behind the call for a return of the 1963 constitution.
In an exclusive interview with The Guardian, Yakasai, however, faulted the Ibadan meeting of the Yoruba, who called for the return of the same constitution on the premise that, the meeting failed to even understand that the 1963 constitution had only four regions not six as enunciated by the document that emanated from the meeting.

“I am speaking not on behalf of anybody, but on behalf of my humble self. As I am speaking with you now, I am 100 per cent in support of the return to the 1963 constitution. We had East, Mid-West, West and Northern regions only under that constitution. Not six regions as included in the document that was passed at Ibadan meeting,” challenged Yakasai.”

He added that none of those, who attended the meeting had any mandate from his people to go and take a position on those issues that were discussed at the meeting.

“Yes, as Nigerians we are all entitled to our opinions and expressions. But you cannot represent people without their legitimate mandate. Who then mandated those people to take such decisions? Mind you, you can only have people’s mandate through popular vote, by the electorate. So, who mandated those people to take such decisions? He asked rhetorically.

“Do you know that Yoruba traditional rulers and religious leaders were not part of the organisers of that meeting? So, in that scenario how can you now come and say this position is that of the Yoruba race? It doesn’t work like this,” he said.

The presence of thugs at the meeting, Yakasai said was an indicator that the document that was produced from the meeting was “completely faulty and pre-arranged.”

On the communiqué, the elder statesman said: “You cannot raise a communique from that meeting the way it was raised. Hundreds of people cannot, in any way, reach a resolution. Mind you, a resolution is a summation of the discussions that took place during a meeting.

“When a resolution is reached, it is then that you give the resolution to a communiqué committee to come up with a communiqué. But in case of the Ibadan meeting, there was nothing like that. And because of the presence of hired thugs, nobody could raise an eyebrow there,” Yakasai alleged.


http://guardian.ng/news/north-cautions-yoruba-southerners-on-clamour-for-1963-constitution/
The North has enjoyed power most among other region yet in abject poverty.
Their elites are enslaving them.
They are afraid of restructuring.
Sooner or later this country will be restructured.
Northern Nigeria is drawing other regions backwards.

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by michony505(m): 3:53pm On Sep 10, 2017
hammerFU:



South does not include Yorubas, they are part of the NorthWest muslims.

South is the SS/SE.

Wen u stop making obvious mistake, u stop asking silly questions.



How can you say Yoruba belongs to Northwest? only an illiterate will say such. It shows you lack some basic knowledge. We Yorubas Are always happy with who we Are, we Are not soliciting any favour from any tribe!

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by mmsen: 3:58pm On Sep 10, 2017
Stingman:
The SW, SE, SS and Middle belt regions want to change the constitution. The core north wants the status quo...

What does this tell other Nigerians?
Who are the parasites now?
Was this why Gideon Orka wanted to remove the core North from the remaining part of Nigeria?

Time will tell.

North has always been a pariah. The problem is that the rest (especially the middle belt) have been afraid to say it.

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