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Re: The Middle Path by PastorAIO: 10:12am On Sep 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: I believe that there is more to absolutely everybody than meets the eye. |
Re: The Middle Path by PastorAIO: 10:15am On Sep 11, 2017 |
sukkot: Being difficult to calculate or ascertain does not make it irrelevant. But my question is, why the emphasis on the Sun sign.? Why not the moon sign? Wouldn't it make more sense that the moon sign would indicate an ascended master than a sun sign? |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 10:23am On Sep 11, 2017 |
PastorAIO:well it is irrelevant in that it is not a celestial body. it is just a calculation. book of genesis 1 vs 14 says i have given you the greater light in the heaven for a sign ( the sun ) and a lesser light ( the moon ) and the stars. it has no mention of horizon calculations. so the horizon calculations is just what man has created for himself. now with regards to why the sun and not the moon ? the sun is your higher self and the moon is your lower self. your purpose in this reincarnation is your higher self aka the sun sign 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 10:50am On Sep 11, 2017 |
sukkot: Very astute comments Sukkot, many Fraternal Orders do require different things of their adherents, many (in my opinion) are made to give far more in order to receive very little. In the case I mentioned before, I really could have just gone round to my neighbourhood temple and over Espresso and Amaretto biscuits, a small contribution later the attending priest would have pronounced a few words over me and that would have been it, these days, I hear you can even get internet blessings but would have been the point? I learnt Jewish Qabalah and at first I thought the Rabbi’s who indoctrinated me were quite simply mad, they initially refused to teach in English, I spent six months initially on a Kibbutz learning the basics of Hebrew that they demanded, When I approached them again, I was asked to recite 360 aspects of God in Hebrew and when I had done that I was then informed that I was to go away and perform the invocatory ritual of the Divine Archangels for ONE year twice a day and if I missed one session I was to begin all over again. I wanted to strangle them as they spoke but I left. It took me three years to return to Jerusalem, but I did, by then I had come to know exactly why they spoke as they did, they saw it in my eyes and they happily taught me. I learnt the invaluable life lessons of Faith, Patience and Consistency. 11 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: The Middle Path by PastorAIO: 10:58am On Sep 11, 2017 |
sukkot: The twelve signs of the zodiac are celestial bodies. The position of a configuration of celestial bodies on the horizon are known (tried tested and confirmed) to be of great effect. The Sun is not any higher self. If anything it is the obstructing ego. It's number is 666. What about Jupiter? Saturn? Why shouldn't someone with Aquarius featured strongly be an ascended whatever? |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 11:03am On Sep 11, 2017 |
PastorAIO:lol bro the 12 signs of the zodiac are not celestial bodies but are cosmic demarcations or houses in the universe. and i dont know where you get this sun obstructing ego and being 666 but it is contrary to the bible and i am assuming you subscribe to the bible because you are a pastor |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 11:15am On Sep 11, 2017 |
Sarassin:well you have had quite the spiritual journey. I gotta give you that. Your spirit is desiring and seeking and eager to activate all its dormant sides. The quest for illumination in you is strong and yeah I do admit what some will give you in return appears negligible compared to what you put in but if viewed comprehensively, what you received far outweighs what you put in. what you received is the journey and the experience. In going through that tough journey is spiritual refinement and an affliction that makes you more spiritually mature. basically what i am saying is that the benefit is the journey itself and not what you received. And the primal forces within you require that you go through the hardship of that journey in other to be whole again. in affliction do the wise find their wisdom. in affliction do we find humility. the journey is affliction. the journey is the goal. having said all that I salute your journey. I can sense the power in your spirit screaming for activation. |
Re: The Middle Path by PastorAIO: 11:19am On Sep 11, 2017 |
sukkot: I've always thought that Pisces referred to a constellation of 18 stars. Please google it. I may be wrong. I presume you've been initiated in hermetic traditions in which case you'd have had to study a fair bit of geometry and maths. Were you ever made to calculate the Magic Square of the Sun? Can you remind us what it is? |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 11:23am On Sep 11, 2017 |
PastorAIO:yes pisces is a zodiac constellation. its a house. and in that house are stars. so pisces is a house where some stars live, if that makes sense. also in that house we have galaxies and nebulas and black holes etc. a gathering of stars is a galaxy and not a constellation calculating the magic square of the sun ? no i stick to the longitude, latitude, declination, right ascension, velocity, altitude and azimuth positions of the sun. i dont dabble in the Magic square 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by pansophist(m): 12:08pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
sukkot: So in the wake of all these, is Obama still resuming office as prophesized earlier? and this 23rd September thingy, what exactly is happening on that date? |
Re: The Middle Path by PastorAIO: 12:34pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
I am bound by the limits of my knowledge as I am sure you are and everyone else too. It seems that we have very different perspectives and understanding of these hermetic things. First I understand the signs of the zodiac to be very different from the houses. They overlap but are different. One moves the other doesn't. Second, I find it odd that you know enough to tell if someone is an 'ascended master' from their sun sign yet you've never heard of the Magic Squares. Talk less of try to construct them for each planet or derive Seals from them. sukkot: And as such I look forward to that day when the Sun shall be no more and my steps will be guided by a truer light. Revelation chapter 21: And the city has no need of the sun, nor of the moon, that they should shine in it; for the glory of God enlightened it, and its lamp is the Lamb. 24And the nations will walk by its light, Revelation 22: And night will be no more. They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever. From my perspective it bothers me that you'll tell people that the Sun is their Higher Self and they should follow the Sun. sukkot: |
Re: The Middle Path by PastorAIO: 12:42pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
@ OP, As a qabalist and bearing in mind you open this thread called middle path... Please can you tell us which number in the Sefer Sefiroth blocks the path from 1 to 9 and on to 10? What planet is assIgn to that sefiroth? |
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 12:49pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
Sarassin:So deep. Please move on with the installments. There is much noise around - in the scientific/linguistic meaning of noise - but please do move on. |
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 12:56pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
PastorAIO:I thought you would by now have realized the guy is a well known troll of the forum. He really does not know much, except some conspiracy theories and internet based black Hebrews "esoteric" theories he read (watched and listened to) here and there (youtube and various websites). That coupled with pseudo astrology and a lot of humor, there you have it. That's our man. However, he has good intuitive abilities, and a true spiritual calling. If you take his anti Igbo stances, mockery and his numerous (failed) prophecies and revelations aside, he is generally a nice read, and one can but sense he is indeed gifted, sincere and somehow spiritual. 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 1:01pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
pansophist:i dont do dates anymore lol. I dont need people holdiing me to specific dates. will obama return ? in one way or another. maybe as the United nations top guy or we will see. but he will return 3 Likes |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 1:05pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
PastorAIO:The magic squares has absolutely nothing to do with the position of celestial bodies in the sky. the world events are dictated by the position of celestial bodies, their aspects and alignments to each other, and not some magic square game / concoction lol. come on dude i am sure you are smarter than this. NEVER DEVIATE FROM THE POSITION OF CELESTIAL BODIES IN THE SKY BECAUSE THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS, NOT MAGIC SQUARES, NONE OF THAT NONSENSE and those verses you quoted are not literal verses. that is not talking about the literal sun. EVERY living thing needs the sun or they will die, so we will always need the sun. so that verse is sspeaking in symbolism when it says they will no longer need the sun because they will now be the sun. it means they will be the source of wisdom shinning on everyone and will no longer need to be taught |
Re: The Middle Path by PastorAIO: 1:05pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
Oh, thanks for this. I was aware of the name but I rarely remember the personalities behind the names unless we interact a lot. LoJ: |
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 1:24pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas:I can't blame them. There is something peculiar about sarassin, and I told him that a few times already, I am still trying to learn how to achieve that too, to the same extent. Normally, it is possible to "smoke"* someone and sense who he really is, at his core. For that you need something personal, a picture, an audio, etc. Anybody can achieve this, with a little training, some do this better than others however. I can do it, with the writings of someone, even on the internet, and that almost at will. However, for some reason, Sarassin was (still is) very difficult to "smoke". He is one of the only 2 people here in nairaland (the other one being PastorAIO), I never could "smoke"* from their writing. This is the very reason, why I avoided him for a long time on nairaland, although I was already aware of his writings. It took special circumstances, for me to dare approach him directly. They say a true mystic, "never attracts attention, and never seeks attention". He truly has achieved that - in my opinion. *I use the verb "smoke" here for very personal reasons. But I am certain some people here surely understand why my choice of word. Cheers. 3 Likes |
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 1:32pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
PastorAIO: On the basic model it is 6, the planet is of course the Sun. I use the term 'Middle Path' in terms of a practitioners direction. 3 Likes |
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 1:33pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
LoJ: I will as best as I can. Just got a bit 'distracted' 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by PastorAIO: 1:35pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
Sarassin: Thanks, though now I realise that pushing my point through is not worth my while. |
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 1:38pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
Re: The Middle Path by Ranchhoddas: 3:14pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
LoJ:Really? Have you *smoked* me? What did you find out? |
Re: The Middle Path by NPComplete: 3:40pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: I am beginning to believe u don't believe half of the things these guys peddle be it claims of knowledge of the esoteric, wisdoms from the ethereal or the pseudoscientific woowoo that the New Age guys espouse. You just like egging them on as a way to have fun. I believe u don't believe anything per se. Hearing them talk is like reading a Tolkien novel to u. |
Re: The Middle Path by Ranchhoddas: 4:43pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
NPComplete:..."but then Mormont saw them. You saw them. And I trust the words of an honest man more than what everybody knows...." Tyrion Lannister talking to Jon Snow on why he believes that the White Walkers are real. In my case we will have to replace "honest man" with "erudite man". The reason atheists and other skeptics alike give for their position is lack of evidence and a rather vain appeal to their intellects. They often mock believers as "unlearned" and "deluded". But when you look at some of the guys who hold these "superstitions", they are among the most intellectual around. Apart from Plaett.on and maybe Agent.ofAllah, all the people on this forum who are scholarly (not Google knowledge) all believe in one esoteric thing or the other. So it is either they are all deluded (which makes no sense anyway I try to look at it) or there really is something there. I am inclined to go with the latter. So in the words of The Dragon Queen, "perhaps we should all start to examine the things we think we know"... PS: I prefer GRRM. I've never read Tolkien. 5 Likes |
Re: The Middle Path by enigmatic16(f): 5:58pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
sukkot: I take it dat ure pisces... I ve met a mentaly elevated pisces... He introduced me 2 all i knw bout awareness now... He was an interesting being, very spiritual...u remind me of him. He knew too much n i found it annoying ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by NPComplete: 6:13pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: So how do u explain the lack of consensus? Here we have two guys I respect a lot Sarassin and Billyonaire but both can't seem to agree on what's what. Or the basic tenets of esoterica. So are we to believe they are both right or they are both wrong? As a deist, I am a bit inclined to believe the universe is undergirded by certain laws that, when properly studied or understood, could produce supposed supernatural effects. But as a skeptic, I ask myself if any of these practioners can withstand scrutiny. If we subject them to the same inquiry that we have made of Abrahamic religions, what will we find? It is easy for anyone to come online and make claims or debunk other people's claims; anyone can claim his own esoteric way is the right way and explain it away with bombast, the psychological effect is just too alluring, but can any of them really prove these things? Can they astra project and tell us, with proof, what otherwise impossible knowledge they were able to glean? Can they really "smoke" someone, like LoJ claimed to be able to do and statistically be right? I seek knowledge and such knowledge should be well tested and proven for me to believe it. And I think our common apathy towards organize religions make us less likely to dispute what these fringe religions or practices preach. Trust me, the day any of these guys are able to really show me they can do the things they claim, I will be the first to start following their prescribed method. We must push them to prove themselves and things like "ignore scoffers" make them look like the organise religion they abhor. Everything must be questioned and proved. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 6:14pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
enigmatic16:nah I am scorpio. a water sign also. yeah it always sucks to come across as too intelligent right ? you have to pretend to be dumb at times right ? so you dont get on peoples nerves. yeah i notice people prefer the dumb version of me lmao |
Re: The Middle Path by Chubhie: 6:28pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
sukkot:I humble myself to learn and bear witness to the master's in this thread. |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 6:32pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
Chubhie:yeah I humble myself too bro. in fact tonight i will read the thread from start to finish cuz i havent done so yet. i just schemed through. very intellectual thread it is. how you been bro ? thanks for bringing the thread to my attention |
Re: The Middle Path by Chubhie: 6:56pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
sukkot:The Pleiades directed my fingers to the thread.Such a thread would be incomplete without your inputs laced with humor. I LOL at the part you replied about the OP dancing naked in the streets of sir-Lanka. Friends thought I just got high on soft drinks! I'm a lil fragmented between balancing work and advancing the soul simultaneously. I pray the Pleiades would grant my wish of some diamonds on their next visits.LOL! Hope irma no reach your end? 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 7:05pm On Sep 11, 2017 |
Chubhie:lol yeah the seven sisters. Nah brah no Irma here. am in europe not america. Next up is hurricane Jose to reach florida by september 18. first harvey then irma and next jose. interesting times bro yeah work sucks lol. never understood why people got excited about getting a job 1 Like 1 Share |
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