thorpido:
Such a long epistle of utter gibberish.

hahn:

It’s one of the most overlooked questions in the Christian world, the stuff of nightmares for Sunday school teachers, Christian philosophers, and hungry amateur apologists across the planet: If Jesus was God, why didn’t he say anything new or even marginally useful?
In the roughly 12,000 days this self-named Middle Eastern God walked the earth he didn’t once mention bacteria, pasteurization, or the importance of dental hygiene. In the roughly 1,000 sunlit days Jesus was on his ministry, speaking to sets of desperately eager ears, he didn’t once explain the sun, the composition of the atmosphere, clouds, or sooth people’s fears of the terrifying blights of lightning and thunder. In the roughly 1,000 long, long television-free nights Jesus had to say something new or useful, he didn’t once look up and explain to his friends the moon (and the tides), the stars, the planets, our position in the solar system, the galaxy, the nature of gravity, light, radiation, or on a more practical note, dispense the formula for sun block. In the three years of his ministry he didn’t point anyone in the direction of morphine, teach a soul about the nature of asthma, epilepsy, genetics, the periodic table, volcanology, the causes of headaches, muscle cramps, prenatal care, plate tectonics, architecture, evolution, or tell a single living being about the science of corrective-optics. He didn’t mention anything about better, faster, safer forms of transportation, communication technology, math, the metric system, a new swimming technique, scuba diving, blast furnaces, magnetic compasses, quartz watches, wind turbines, the wonders of reinforced concrete, ball bearings, immunization, New Zealand, the physics of flight, thermal dynamics, podiatry, water purification, desalination, stainless steel, umbrellas, telescopes, microscopes, macroeconomics, paper, washing machines, tupperware, bicycles, bras, buttons, refrigeration, or even introduce a single new spice to spruce up otherwise bland Judean recipes. In the 290,000 hours he had go say something new or useful, he made no mention of the link between mosquito’s and malaria, representative democracy, or even electricity. Flushable toilets, a technology based on gravity alone, would have saved thousands of lives lost to dysentery and cholera in the time of his alleged ministry, and tens of millions in the two millennia since. In all of the 1,740,000 minutes he had to say something new or marginally useful, Jesus didn’t utter a solitary constructive word about weather stations, a global language like Esperanto, a world map, or even the wonders of vulcanized rubber; a certain showstopper in the age of sandals.
Indeed, speaking some 500 years after the Greek atomists (Leucippus and Democritus) first scratched at a greater understanding of the natural world, Jesus failed entirely to say a word or two about the nature of reality, subatomic particles, or fusion which would not only have been useful, eventually, but utterly astonishing to later audiences. 600 years before Jesus spun his sometimes poetic but otherwise quite bland parables, Aesop’s was telling much, much better stories infused with real practical advice. 500 years before Jesus, Confucius’s worldly wisdom

hahn:


Translation: I have nothing to say or contribute to something meaningless;a thread created by someone who is so unintelligent that he cannot understand that God is a Spirit and spirits do not create nairaland accounts.

We dig

crusadistic:
You've been lost in a desert and dying of exhaustion,luckily you chanced upon a Bedouin who knows the location of a nearby well that could satisfy your thirst practically forever and he's also avid to lead you there,but instead you say no! You wouldn't go until he finds you a golden cup Isn't that utter stupidity @hahn.

hahn:
Christianity’s Nightmare Question



It’s one of the most overlooked questions in the Christian world, the stuff of nightmares for Sunday school teachers, Christian philosophers, and hungry amateur apologists across the planet: If Jesus was God, why didn’t he say anything new or even marginally useful?

In the roughly 12,000 days this self-named Middle Eastern God walked the earth he didn’t once mention bacteria, pasteurization, or the importance of dental hygiene. In the roughly 1,000 sunlit days Jesus was on his ministry, speaking to sets of desperately eager ears, he didn’t once explain the sun, the composition of the atmosphere, clouds, or sooth people’s fears of the terrifying blights of lightning and thunder. In the roughly 1,000 long, long television-free nights Jesus had to say something new or useful, he didn’t once look up and explain to his friends the moon (and the tides), the stars, the planets, our position in the solar system, the galaxy, the nature of gravity, light, radiation, or on a more practical note, dispense the formula for sun block. In the three years of his ministry he didn’t point anyone in the direction of morphine, teach a soul about the nature of asthma, epilepsy, genetics, the periodic table, volcanology, the causes of headaches, muscle cramps, prenatal care, plate tectonics, architecture, evolution, or tell a single living being about the science of corrective-optics. He didn’t mention anything about better, faster, safer forms of transportation, communication technology, math, the metric system, a new swimming technique, scuba diving, blast furnaces, magnetic compasses, quartz watches, wind turbines, the wonders of reinforced concrete, ball bearings, immunization, New Zealand, the physics of flight, thermal dynamics, podiatry, water purification, desalination, stainless steel, umbrellas, telescopes, microscopes, macroeconomics, paper, washing machines, tupperware, bicycles, bras, buttons, refrigeration, or even introduce a single new spice to spruce up otherwise bland Judean recipes. In the 290,000 hours he had go say something new or useful, he made no mention of the link between mosquito’s and malaria, representative democracy, or even electricity. Flushable toilets, a technology based on gravity alone, would have saved thousands of lives lost to dysentery and cholera in the time of his alleged ministry, and tens of millions in the two millennia since. In all of the 1,740,000 minutes he had to say something new or marginally useful, Jesus didn’t utter a solitary constructive word about weather stations, a global language like Esperanto, a world map, or even the wonders of vulcanized rubber; a certain showstopper in the age of sandals.

Indeed, speaking some 500 years after the Greek atomists (Leucippus and Democritus) first scratched at a greater understanding of the natural world, Jesus failed entirely to say a word or two about the nature of reality, subatomic particles, or fusion which would not only have been useful, eventually, but utterly astonishing to later audiences. 600 years before Jesus spun his sometimes poetic but otherwise quite bland parables, Aesop’s was telling much, much better stories infused with real practical advice. 500 years before Jesus, Confucius’s worldly wisdom (“Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves”) puts the Palestinian rabbi’s efforts to shame. In all truth, Jesus’ only moment of presenting something genuinely useful, something which could be practically applied by people across all cultures and all time, the so-named Golden Rule, was plagiarized. The concept dates back to the Egyptian Middle Kingdom (c. 2040–1650 BCE) “Now this is the command: Do to the doer to cause that he do thus to you.” It also emerged in the Babylonian Code of Hammurabi (1780 BCE), as well as in the Mahabharata (8th Century BCE) “The knowing person is minded to treat all beings as himself,” in Homer’s Odyssey (6th century BCE), “I will be as careful for you as I will be for myself in the same need,” 6th century BCE Taoism, “Regard your neighbour’s gain as your own gain, and your neighbour’s loss as your own loss,” in 5th century BCE Confucianism, “Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself,” in 4th century BCE Mohism, “For one would do for others as one would do for oneself,” and was even articulated by the Greek, Pittacus (640–568 BCE), who said: “Do not do to your neighbour what you would take ill from him.”

Even the much touted Beatitudes delivered at the Sermon on the Mount (“the first will be last and the last first“) is nothing but a poetic re-hash of the concepts of cosmic justice first articulated by Laozi, Rishabha and Mahavira (Jainism), and Siddhartha Gautama, amongst other mystics and thinkers long, long before.

The thought to be “revolutionary idea” of turning the other cheek is, in fact, an ancient utterance. Lao Tzu, said it this way: “I treat those who are good with goodness. And I also treat those who are not good with goodness. Thus goodness is attained.” Zhuangzi said it this way: “Do good to him who has done you an injury.” Rishabha said it this way: “My Lord! Others have fallen back in showing compassion to their benefactors as you have shown compassion even to your malefactors. All this is unparalleled.” Mahavira said it this way: “Man should subvert anger by forgiveness, subdue pride by modesty, overcome hypocrisy with simplicity, and greed by contentment.” In Hinduism its said this way: “A superior being does not render evil for evil; this is a maxim one should observe; the ornament of virtuous persons is their conduct. One should never harm the wicked or the good or even criminals meriting death. A noble soul will ever exercise compassion even towards those who enjoy injuring others or those of cruel deeds when they are actually committing them–for who is without fault?” And Siddhartha Gautama said it this way: “Conquer anger by love. Conquer evil by good. Conquer the stingy by giving. Conquer the liar by truth.”

Even the role Jesus said he was playing, that of messiah, was anything but new. As early as a thousand years before, Zoroaster (who also taught equality irrespective of gender, race, or religion) had spoken of the Saoshyant; the saviour figure who was referred to as the World Renovator and Victorious Benefactor who will defeat “the evil of the progeny of the biped” and establish the Kingdom of Good Thought (righteousness).

Now there is of course a reason why Jesus (nor indeed any of the characters in the books of the New or Old Testaments) mentioned anything even approaching the genuinely new and/or uniquely useful. It’s the same reason why the authors of the works failed to note that an average sized adult is a composite of some 7, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 flavoured atoms arranged on a 4.54 billion year old planet circling a middle-aged 4th or 5th generation star on its 23rd trip around the centre of a galaxy composed of about 200 billion stars in a 13.7 billion year old universe peppered with hundreds of billions of galaxies glued together in super clusters along expanding tendrils held in-place by the indirectly observed but otherwise still utterly mysterious dark matter. That reason, to put it politely, is that the authors of the Bible and the rather dubious characters contained within were not speaking from a position of observed strength. To put it not so politely, the Bible is utter nonsense; a regularly and predictably absurd work of fiction which D. L. Foster noted as missing only the words “Once upon a time” and, “Happily ever after.”

Source: http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/christianitys-nightmare-question/

Originakalokalo:


Do you really want to know why?
1. He had 3 years to tell you spiritual things that will benefit your life. 3 years to raise the dead, heal the sick and complete the works of salvation

Instead of telling you about the sun, he raised Lazarus from death

Instead of telling you about the ocean, he walked on it.

Instead of telling you about the Galaxy, he commanded the demons to leave.

Why tell you what he has given you Natural wisdom of man to discern?
Natural wisdom of man cannot discern the things of the spirit.
What did he tell you?

That his name can subdue the roaring of the sea which is a physical phenomenom

That though being dead, life can be restored again....(Lazarus

That a demon can make one to misbehave and loose his mind.

That the spiritual controls the physical and not the other way around. If this is true, I would rather know about the spiritual.

What else do you want him to tell you?

Hmm.

Ignorance.

hahn:


Delusion sweet sha

Xiadnat:
........ The message of salvation is as useful as it gets. It us eternal, while all else will eventually fade away.


The simple answer to this question is in that of PURPOSE......


The purpose of the bible and Jesus coming to earth was that of the message of salvation. Not to waste his limited time on earth on with peripheral issues.

hahn:


Translation: I have nothing meaningful to say or contribute but I have to defend a god who is too incompetent to create a nairaland account and defend itself

We dig

caps:


Translation: I have nothing meaningful to say or contribute but I have to defend a god who I don't know or have any evidence of, but believe he'll send me to hell if I ever doubt or question the doctrines that the slave masters brought to Africa. I'm a believer because I was born to a family of believers, whose parents were believers just like their own parents, and this fear of the imaginary commando has led me to never apply logic and critical thinking in any situation all my life, and I promise to continue to be sheep, and keep on shaming myself with my lack of knowledge, both on the internet, and in my street.

obisco4u:
Who Jesus epp?

GoodMuyis:
Matthew 5:17 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

So why do you expect him to Say something new when, when you have not read the book of John 7


John 7:14
17. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
18. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
19. Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

Colossal Failure

GoodMuyis:
Matthew 5:17 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

So why do you expect him to Say something new when, when you have not read the book of John 7


John 7:14
17. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
18. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
19. Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

Colossal Failure

GoodMuyis:
Matthew 5:17 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

So why do you expect him to Say something new when, when you have not read the book of John 7


John 7:14
17. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
18. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
19. Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

Colossal Failure

hahn:


Lol. The message of salvation is useless if it promises a heaven you cannot provide a picture of

Park well and allow sane people comment

Thank you

Xiadnat:


You cannot see gravity, yet it is keeping you grounded.

You cannot see air, yet it permeates your lungs


You cannot touch water, yet you need it to survive and your body is 70% water.

Need i go on??

You think you are clever? However a gnat has more cerebral mass than you.

God exits. Heaven and hell are real. Just cause you dont "see", doesnt negate its existence.

One day, you will find out.

When it comes to science of it all, dont argue with me. I have more science background than all your ancestors before and to come.

I would spare you the shame. I will let you think you are "sane".

GoodMuyis:
hopefulLandlord, hahn

Yoruba Adage says "what pains you most becomes a regurgitation".

After thought 1
colossal failure is when you business fail to sell and someone came after you and began to not only to sell, but garner acceptance.

kevoh:
Nice one hahn. They have already started coming with the Ad hominems.



The people or race who were generous enough to sacrifice their time to discover or invent most of the above now regarded as basic science which humans are still using till date are the real miracle workers. Not some five loaves and two fishes for 5000 people or water into wine miracle embelished stories by the followers of Jesus to give their main man,Jesus, some sort of high stand . Same embellished stories that are yet to be repeated by a christian till this day, despite Jesus saying his followers would do more than he has done.

budaatum:

Jesus taught love. A simple concept, but one, despite all the knowledge there was prior to that in the western world as is known, was a concept not yet in the consciousness of the many. One day his teaching would be understood here too and his understanders would most definitely do more than he did.

budaatum:

Jesus taught love. A simple concept, but one, despite all the knowledge there was prior to that in the western world as is known, was a concept not yet in the consciousness of the many. One day his teaching would be understood here too and his understanders would most definitely do more than he did.