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Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by Michealforever: 2:32pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
0temAtum: Brother...it's a free world . You believe what works for you and I believe mine. I have been worshipping Jehovah as a Celestian for the last 35 years. In all those times he has taught, instructed, rebuked, helped , saved and blessed me in remarkable ways where people marvel . Studying Religion in the University meant that I was least likely to succeed...but Jehovah is not a man. We bless him for where he has and is taking us. I know him as the Almighty God...the only One to whom all must return. God works for me One of the characteristics of prose is that it has to be believable... nevertheless it remains a figment of the imagination. Like I said you have taken heavily from the scriptures of Islam and Christianity and woven a tale that is entertaining to read. I |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by 0temAtum: 2:47pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Michealforever:Interesting, so you've been worshipping Satan(Yahweh) for 35years now and you're still worshipping him. Well, I also worshipped Jehovah(Satan) for almost 30 years before Atum the god of truth and my ancestors showed me the light. It's a free world as you say, rejoice in the worship of Satan(Yahweh) your god. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by geoworldedu: 3:50pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Satan has horns and tail, lucifer is a fine boy 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by Wilgrea7(m): 3:59pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
MizMyColi: oh well.. a lot of people have already said what i had in mind.. the name lucifer means light bearer or bringer.. which in itself isn't bad but it might not be advisable to give your child that name due to social factors.. same reason naming a child Cain or Hitler might be a bad idea.. congrats on your baby |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by MizMyColi(f): 4:05pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Wilgrea7: Thank you. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by 0temAtum: 4:08pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
mikejj:people still answer Judah, it's Judas many people don't answer. Reminds me of how the followers of Yeshua killed Iskariot(Judas) according to the Doctufos of truth |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by Ahasco(m): 4:44pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Michealforever: What makes you think it's the most honest text? Besides, what chapters of the book makes it honest? I have read through the Bible countless times studying it back and forth, trying to get answers to some hidden verses in the Bible, but behold I got all those answers later(now) because I prayed for the answers and I now know the truth and it has set me free. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by Michealforever: 6:11pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
Ahasco: What other book will tell that one if the founding fathers of it's nation patronized prostitutes. That one of it's most beloved Kings was an adulterer and murderer? That it's Christ was also weakened in faith and questioned why the father had forsaken him? Its a very honest book. Till date Trump has not released his Tax returns and we still dont know the sickness that was/is ailing Buhari. We seem to make the mistake that the Bible was written by one man. Many minds served as channels for the writing of that book. Some minds were more advanced receptive and articulate than the others in receiving and articulating their perceptions of the supernatural. Once you can factor in that coupled with the problem of religious language and the use of anthropomorphisms then you will be good. Right now I am in Atlanta and you are likely in another part of the world with access to online research.... The world was not always like that. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by NairalandSARS: 6:44pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
0temAtum: How come they "fell" into the pit? Aren't they supposed to have telekinesis or something? |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by DarkRebel69: 7:01pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
I feel jealous and hurt. No one discusses me like this, with such fury and gusto; and yet some fictional personae gets 5 pages on Nairaland all to itself. It's just not fair. 2 Likes |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by KinzyeWriter(m): 7:04pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
LoJ: Wow... Mr Bobowaja, another one |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by KinzyeWriter(m): 7:44pm On Sep 14, 2017 |
LoJ:someone like me, thanks bro. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by bobowaja(m): 6:32am On Sep 15, 2017 |
KinzyeWriter:Hmmmmm....... The quote above only shows a small fraction of lies and deceit, they are more and more from whence it came (Bible). 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by mosesdejaviano(m): 9:00am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Lucifer was once the bearer of the light in heaven. He was an arc-angel (a seraphim). In heaven, there are myriads of angels there. There are angels that have access to the throne of God. The angels that have access to the throne are the cherebums and seraphims. These cherebums and seraphims are special type of angels. Isaiah 6vs 1-6 explained this. Seraphims are the head of cherebums. Both seraphims and cherebums are designated to be around the throne of God. Lucifer being the light bearer gave him some access to many mysteries and deep things that other angels in heaven dont have access to. Because of these mysteries and deep things he knew, he thought he had seen it all. That was why it was possible for him to gather one-third of the angels in heaven to fight with him. They Believed Him because of some mysteries he has shared with them. But He Lost The Battle And was cast down with his other angels. After that when man was created he became the DECIEVER (SATAN). He is now the deciever. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by mosesdejaviano(m): 9:22am On Sep 15, 2017 |
BOTH LUCIFER AND SATAN IS REFERRED TO SAME PERSON. He was LUCIFER(bearer of light) in heaven before been sent down to earth. He is SATAN (the deciever) after he was sent down to earth, he has decieved many people and he is still decieving many people now. LASTLY, SATAN IS NOT OMNI-PRESENT and OMNI-SCIENCE, ONLY GOD IS OMNI-PRESENT. JOB 2 vs 2: And the Lord said unto Satan, from whence comest thou? And Satan answered the Lord, and said, FROM GOING TO AND FRO IN THE EARTH, and FROM WALKING UP AND DOWN IN IT. So Satan Is Never OMNI-PRESENT. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by MrOnPoint(m): 10:10am On Sep 15, 2017 |
0temAtum: Pls, i need to read that. Can you post it? |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by rekinomtla(m): 10:34am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Ahasco: I've acquired knowledge and power due to all my years of constant prayer and biblical study sir. I know when something comes from the true God or when it was produced by the devil, this otem's doctrine has satanic elements in it, lies and blasphemy. Both of which comes from satan, hence his doctrine was given to him by satan, the father of lies. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by rekinomtla(m): 10:45am On Sep 15, 2017 |
0temAtum: Remember that you'll have to give an account of every word in your false doctrine on the day of judgment. "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by 0temAtum: 10:49am On Sep 15, 2017 |
MrOnPoint: Here is it Doctufos: Batimeus 25:19-24 And 26:10 DOCTUFOS: 10. So Iskariot did as he said early the next day and all the disciples went to the field with him, but I departed from them to the cave where Yeshu was kept. For I was eager to see him when he shall leave the cave. Then 26:23-25 DOCTUFOS: 23. Now when I returned to the field where the disciples went, I found that they had hanged Iskariot and his family already. And I cried angrily at them, saying, why have you done this evil? Why did you kill Iskariot? 24. And they asked, saying, what has come over you, O Batimeus? Did you not know that this Iskariot made the government to kill our god Yeshu? And I said, keep quiet all of you! For Yeshu is not dead, for he has risen. 25. And he is now in Galil, waiting that you shall come and meet him. But you have gone ahead to kill Iskariot because he betrayed Yeshu. Now that Yeshu has risen from the dead, what meaning does it have for Iskariot to die at all? 2 Likes |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by 0temAtum: 11:01am On Sep 15, 2017 |
rekinomtla:Let's assume I am not working under you, can your laws bind on me? Atum is my god and we are bound together? So how come I will bypass Atum my god and give account to Yahweh the convict who is currently in his spiritual prison? Think deep. If I am to give any account at all, I ain't going to be giving it to a strange God, rather I'll give it to my ancestors, Ohomorihi, Olorun, Atum my friendly god etc. More so, is it possible for a free man to give account to a prisoner? NB: Yahweh and Allah are still in their spiritual prison. Imagine how someone here called YahwehPenis is making jest of the dick of Yahweh your god and he can't strike him down dead as they said he did in the bible to Ananias and Sapphira. Is this not an evidence that your god is somehow incapacitated or perhaps he never did any of those powerful manifestations attributed to him Think deep. 2 Likes |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by rekinomtla(m): 11:40am On Sep 15, 2017 |
0temAtum: Atum is a false god, who was created by the true God as an angel then who fell with his master Lucifer aka Satan. You and others will give an account to the true God not the false gods. NB: Yahweh and Allah are still in their spiritual prison. Imagine how someone here called YahwehPenis is making jest of the dick of Yahweh your god and he can't strike him down dead as they said he did in the bible to Ananias and Sapphira. Is this not an evidence that your god is somehow incapacitated or perhaps he never did any of those powerful manifestations attributed to him Think deep. My God is a God of mercy, that's why even you still here but your time will come on the day of judgment, so will others who follow their false gods Atum, satan, horus etc. All demons. Your false god Atum has no power over me, I can called him the evil satanic bastard he is and he cannot touch me for I'm a true believer. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by KinzyeWriter(m): 12:41pm On Sep 15, 2017 |
bobowaja:Lol.. all lies in it |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by 0temAtum: 1:09pm On Sep 15, 2017 |
rekinomtla: Hahhahaha, Yahweh and Atum are brothers and God Almighty is their father. Yahweh is the fittest for the title Satan and that's what we recognise him as. Allah is Lucifer. Atum isnt among the angels of Yahweh, because he himself has his own angels. Get your facts right okay. Yahweh has no power over me. At the mention of my name Otem, Yahweh, Allah, Moloch and all the bad gods must run kabakaba. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by 0temAtum: 1:13pm On Sep 15, 2017 |
NairalandSARS:When Yahweh and Allah and all the gods were on earth physically millions if years back, they were subject to all physical occurrences too. They were subject to gravity, but they could fly with their wings however. They felt pain too, etc |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by rekinomtla(m): 1:19pm On Sep 15, 2017 |
0temAtum: FALSE, your so-called "God Almighty" is a false god, a satanic demon. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by 0temAtum: 1:25pm On Sep 15, 2017 |
rekinomtla:How can a false Almighty God create a real little god like Yahweh? For Yahweh to be real, his creator who I call GOD ALMIGHTY must be real, so stop saying what you don't understand. According to the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH, God Almighty created all the thousands of gods you hear about today. Atum, Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Mazda, Ga0l, Enlil, Chimides, Chaleb, Olorun, Abassi, Oghene, Osanobua etc cannot deny their father God Almighty who made them all. Let Yahweh speak for himself that he doesn't know his father and see if I won't quote for him the very doctufos passages that recorded how he was created. May the great light of God speedily open your eyes and reveal the hidden secrets to you in Otem's name, ASE! 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by rekinomtla(m): 1:36pm On Sep 15, 2017 |
0temAtum: I said your so-called "Almighty God", he's not Almighty. Instead he is a demon who created nothing, he has only deceived you into believing he is the true God. According to the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH, God Almighty created all the thousands of gods you hear about today. Atum, Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Mazda, Ga0l, Enlil, Chimides, Chaleb, Olorun, Abassi, Oghene, Osanobua etc cannot deny their father God Almighty who made them all. Let Yahweh speak for himself that he doesn't know his father and see if I won't quote for him the very doctufos passages that recorded how he was created. This revelation of yours comes from a devil, it should be called the DOCTUFOS OF LIES for it is inspired by satan, the father of lies. Open your eyes heathen! You've been deceived and possessed by an evil spirit. Until you repent and acknowledge the true God, you'll forever been trapped in this deception. The day of judgment will come for you and this devil manipulating you. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by 0temAtum: 1:47pm On Sep 15, 2017 |
rekinomtla: The DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH is a record of events from billions of years back, even before the first big bang. It cuts across all cultures and all gods and all philosophies of the whole world, but as for the 6000year old bible, I search for a Nigerian history there and found none. I searched for the culture and the gods of my people there, it was blank. It has no idea. The BIBLE is fit to be anagramised into the word BBLIE with full meaning Best Book of LIES. The DOCTUFOS HISTORY is already doing good by revealling the true version of all the lies in any religious book including the BBLIE. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by rekinomtla(m): 2:01pm On Sep 15, 2017 |
0temAtum: Meaning it's the ultimate collection of lies, lying about the entirely of all history. The DOCTUFOS OF LIES is the greatest lie ever concocted with you being the most deceiving false prophet to ever live. The BIBLE is fit to be anagramised into the world BBLIE with full meaning Best Book of LIES. The DOCTUFOS HISTORY is already doing good by revealling the true version of all the lies in any religious book including the BBLIE. Exactly something a true follower of the father of lies would say, you've master the art of deception. Satan must even envy your ability to tells lies, as he probably fears that his student has surpassed the master. Let it be known, I'll proclaim the truth know matter how much you and your satanic breathen attack the truth, your hatred will never prevail. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by 0temAtum: 2:13pm On Sep 15, 2017 |
rekinomtla:hmm, I doubt if the level at which Yahweh the evil deceiver has deceived you can be corrected. Well, I'll give your condition the benefit of doubt. I was even more deceived by Yahweh and the BBLIE before the light of God revealed the truth to me. |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by Narisa01(f): 2:39pm On Sep 15, 2017 |
0temAtum:can you assert it with a bible reference please |
Re: What Is The Difference Between Lucifer And Satan? by 0temAtum: 2:43pm On Sep 15, 2017 |
Narisa01:if I'm talking about facts, I don't quote from the book of fictions and exaggerations called the BBLIE aka BIBLE. I do my quotings from the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH and here is it. Doctufos: |
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