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Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by Saintsammurai(m): 7:14am On Sep 17, 2017 |
jerrywill:The bible said, that our GOD is mighty in battle, our GOD is a consuming fire, it is the same GOD that used fire to destroy sodom and gomorah....SO as a christian, when an enemy, a worshiper of satan has decided to bring you down just to glorify satan, then you pray for holy spirit to destroy the plans of the enemies with fire, to glorify GOD.. |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by FaithZion2(f): 7:14am On Sep 17, 2017 |
This is false belief, nothing like Holy Ghost fire consume, kill, the Holy Ghost / Spirit I know is peaceful not violative, once it comes upon someone u feel, peace, joy, happiness, etc.........so they should find better things to do than deceiving themselves.......... 2 Likes |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by Addicted2Women: 7:15am On Sep 17, 2017 |
mikejj: You made me laugh like a retárd |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by jerrywill(m): 7:22am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Saintsammurai:Holy Ghost fire? ok |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by dhardline(m): 7:24am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Nothing like that Biko. Just another addition by some confused men to get the congregation coming. If someone offends you pray for them to be saved that way love overcomes hate. No where in the Holy Bible was anything like Holy Ghost fire used to kill/ threaten / burn evil spirits. Where do people pull this teachings out from though? 1 Like |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by fkj950ax(m): 7:24am On Sep 17, 2017 |
No it is not. Just a fad by Nigerian Christians to engage in spiritual warfare. I have never used it in prayers, and never said Amen if I am in a gathering and someone says it whilst praying. |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by tonyimadu: 7:24am On Sep 17, 2017 |
The Holy Ghost is the giver of peace and comfort. When one has the "Holy Ghost fire, it bring understanding, peace and comfort. It is not a weapon of destruction. It does not strike our enemy. Lets be careful less we fall into apostasy. The Holy Ghost would teach you all things. With the coming of the Holy Ghost comes spiritual gifts. The scriptures also teach of laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost. The gift of the Holy Ghost is the baptism of fire. |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by Legolast: 7:24am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Addicted2Women: To whom head is given,brain is expected.... I pray it wont be long before you realise hell is real. |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by torres89: 7:26am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Saintsammurai: he sent a chariot which moved with fire not just fire God is known to do what no man can do no man can do that so stop mixing up arguments |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by kazzy4u(m): 7:31am On Sep 17, 2017 |
ginger |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by duality(m): 7:35am On Sep 17, 2017 |
jerrywill: Who told you the fire called down by Elijah is not the Holy Spirit fire. You want to confine the fire of God to your imagination? |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by Addicted2Women: 7:35am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Legolast: Yeah, hell is real People in hell have been burning for more than 80 thousand years but have never turned to ashes You're amazingly mentally unstable |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by Iamzik: 7:39am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Addicted2Women: Good then get out of the thread. Go create or comment on your atheist thread |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by ezekiel131(m): 7:40am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Hey! It's true it's not boldly Written Holy Ghost fire but, heb 12:29 says God is a consuming fire ,Oga,His spirit is what they saw in the day of Pentecost that means His spirit (Is fire) talking about if the fire consumes go and ask the children of Israel in Deut.9:3. So people making handy of the fire i think is biblical.... |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by Nobody: 7:44am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Africans are too timid to accept their very africanness and indigenous religion as an inexorable fact. The liquid of TRUTH (IFA) being too bitter and unsavoury to swallow, they thus become hardened alcoholics of illogically and unabashed peevishness. For instance, if Olodumare is God in belief, with attributes which are universal, non-tribal, and non-partial, with no chosen race, with fundamental laws which have universal and pan-ontological applicability, why run away from such an Almighty Megaforce and cling to a sectional Jewish Deity who abandoned his own creation and chose a small desert race as his “chosen people”? Wakeup Pipo... |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by janvier27(m): 7:44am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Of course not. I imagine it's heretical to say holy fire should burn anyone. |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by Jones4190(m): 7:45am On Sep 17, 2017 |
You pray for God to kill your enemy as if you not another person enemy, what if your enemy pray for you to die, whichich prayer do you want god to answer? |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by duality(m): 7:45am On Sep 17, 2017 |
FaithZion2: Our God can kill and make alive. The frustrates the devices of evil and ensures their hands cannot perform their enterprise. He's name is Jehovah. The pillar of fire by night. He's ways are beyond our immigration. You can't imagine how he created the world, why do you Want to confine his actions to your limited imagination. One thing is that the enemies of God's children hates God's intervention by fire. But you know, he is the God that answers by fire. |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by Nobody: 7:46am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Addicted2Women: like say that their holy spirit like sex die |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by mikejj(m): 7:54am On Sep 17, 2017 |
jerrywill:yes who says u shouldnt use the name of Jesus or the sword.beside they are many things christians exhibit but aint bibilical huh.if i start giving chapters u wont open them so no need. |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by jerrywill(m): 7:55am On Sep 17, 2017 |
duality:Mr. the bible specifies |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by Mujtahida: 7:57am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Phinity318:I left Christianity and one of the reasons why I did was because of the Jews and the notion of their Choseness. The same God who created the Sun, moon, stars, rain and all the elements which are for all mankind, will now when it comes to religion/spiritual matters will now chose the Jews? No no no. It's all propaganda. |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by FaithZion2(f): 7:57am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Which biblical portion tells u that u must mentione Holy Ghost fire to fight the devil pastor Have u ever seen the fire u claim?? Receive sense duality: |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by Nobody: 8:02am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Mujtahida:they claim they are Gods chosen pipo in the very Bible they wrote. I don't understand how we so lack rational thinking... The holyghost fire thing was once a subject of debate within my Christian friends. When u listen to their submission, even education may not be able to save their ignorance. No, I'm African, And I will not bow to a Pink Man's Deity. |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by likemoney: 8:06am On Sep 17, 2017 |
fire is used by God to destroy the wicked and those that loveth violence.. read psalm 11vs1-end |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by alexiej(m): 8:12am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Addicted2Women: Pls read this. Took me some time to type. If they told 16th century man that a man anywhere in the world could make a phone call or video call with a man in another country and hear him clearly, without having to shout, or without a chord connecting them, I'm sure such man wouldn't have believed too. In fact, I know how pple didn't even believe that the GSM idea was possible when it was introduced to Nigeria, despite the fact that we already had the land line here. People did not believe Copernicus when he told them that the earth was spherical, because they felt it was only logical for it to be flat. My point is, you believe it's possible to hear someone far away through your phone, even though you don't fully understand how that's possible... You also believe the earth is spherical, hanging in space, even though you've never, and will probably never see it... Whether pple some centuries ago believed it or not, does that stop you from believing it now? Does that make you 'mentally unstable enough' to believe the 'stupid story'? 1. You cannot understand everything. That's why there's something called faith 2. If you don't understand something, it's better to keep an open mind and try to learn 3. If you can't do number 2 above, just keep quiet and don't abuse other people or their beliefs 3 Likes |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by xpool(m): 8:12am On Sep 17, 2017 |
onyenze123:You see, this is what you get when somebody wakes up in the morning and opens a thread to mock GOD. Is this the most usefully topic in the life of OP. |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by Nobody: 8:14am On Sep 17, 2017 |
xpool: I don't understand |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by PianoWizard: 8:15am On Sep 17, 2017 |
jerrywill:calm down bro,, there is holy ghost fire and there is the fire of God. The holy ghost fire does not torment, it purifies a person and drives away evil spirit in a person. The purpose of the holy ghost fire is for deliverance and purification not to kill a person. it is the fire of God that torments a person, like the fire in hell. 1 Like |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by PianoWizard: 8:17am On Sep 17, 2017 |
FaithZion2:read my explanation above. |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by EMILO2STAY(m): 8:22am On Sep 17, 2017 |
Instead of carefully scrutinizing
what they have been taught in the
light of the Scriptures, many
professed Christians today allow
themselves to be carried away by
every wind of doctrine as long as such appear to satisfy their
immediate emotional and material
concerns. One of such doctrines is
the teaching that there is something
like "holy ghost fire" which can be
invoked to destroy one's enemies or whatever obstacles that may lie in
one's way. Wrong notions
We must point out that the incident in
Acts 2: 1-41 in which the 12 apostles
spoke in tongues in fulfillment of the
Lord's promise cannot be used to
justify holy ghost fire prayers. In the first place what happened on that day
was that the apostles spokevarious
languages other than their own
Galilean tongue .The testimony by
those who heard the apostles is clear
on this, as it is written: "And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one
to another, Behold, are not all these
which speak Galileans? And how hear
we every man in our own tongue,
wherein we were born? Parthians, and
Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and
Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and
in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and
strangers of Rome, Jews and
proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the
wonderful works of God." - Acts
2:7-11.
From the text above one could see that
the tongues spoken by the apostles
were known languages which were understood by the people who had
converged at Jerusalem for the
Pentecost, a later name for the feast of
weeks which comes up on the 50th
day after the Passover. The apostles
did not behave in a wild manner. They were preaching, not praying. What
obtains these days however is that the
congregation keep shouting
sometimes for hours on end, uttering
unintelligible sounds (which they call
speaking in tongues) - all in the name of prayers. This is of course the direct
opposite of what happened on the
day of Pentecost.
What these professed Christians fail to
realize is that speaking in tongues was
necessary when Christianity was at its infancy so that the gospel could reach
those who were not Jews. After a
while, the gift ceased. The time of
speaking in tongues has passed as St.
Paul himself declared. - 1 Corinthians
13:8. When Jesus Christ spoke of the
kingdom of heaven suffering
"violence" and the "violent" taking it
by force, he meant that the devil and
his agents use violence to continually
persecute the true servants of God and make false claims to the kingdom(2
Corinthians 11:13-15) History is
replete with records of atrocities
committed by so-called Church leaders
against those they called "heretics".
Such churches have proved themselves not to be the servants of
God. - Revelation 2:9; 3:9. Another place cited by those who
believe and teach the doctrine of holy
ghost fire is Matthew 3:11. In the text
John the Baptist, speaking of Jesus
Christ stated: "I indeed baptize you
with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I,
whose shoes I am not worthy to bear:
he shall baptize you with the Holy
Ghost, and with fire" It should be
noted that this text does not say one
should pray for fire to destroy one's enemies. The statement of John the
Baptist meant that the mission of Christ
was of a far higher order than his.
After Christ had been baptized with
water by John the Baptist, the holy
spirit alighted on him in the form of a dove. (Matthew 3:16-17) Thereafter
he promised the apostles the gift of
the holy spirit (or the spirit of
anointing) which fulfilled on the day of
Pentecost when the spirit descended
on them in the form of cloven tongues of fire. (Luke 24:47-49; Acts 1:3-8; Acts
2:1-41) This was the baptism with the
holy spirit spoken of by John the
Baptist. Holy Spirit not Holy Ghost
There is nothing like Holy Ghost. The
word ghost, according to The New
Imperial Reference Dictionary comes
from the archaic English word g'ast
which is derived from the German word geist, meaning "a spirit
appearing after death". The Oxford
Advanced Learners Dictionary says it
means "the spirit of a dead person
appearing to somebody who is still
living" while the Websters New World Dictionary defines ghost as among
other things "the supposed
disembodied spirit of a dead person,
conceived of as appearing to the living
as a pale, shadowy apparition"
The word ghost was wrongly used by the translators of the King James
Version of the Bible to stand for "spirit"
which is the same thing as "breath of
life" - the power of God which is
responsible for the functioning of the
organs. For instance John 19:30 is rendered in the King James Version as
follows: "When Jesus therefore had
received the vinegar, he said, It is
finished: and he bowed his head, and
gave up the ghost." But the New King
James Version has translated it thus: " So when Jesus had received the sour
wine, He said, "It is finished!" And
bowing His head, He gave up His
spirit". Other translations such as the
New American Standard Version, the
New International Version, the Revised Standard Version, The Living Bible, the
Jerusalem Bible and so on have all
changed the word ghost to spirit.
The term Ghost" is also wrongly used
to stand for holy spirit. For instance
Matthew 28:19 is rendered thus in the King James Version "Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations, baptizing them
in the name of the Father, and of the
Son, and of the Holy Ghost." But this
has been amended in the New King
James Version to read "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations,
baptizing them in the name of the
Father and of the Son and of the Holy
Spirit." Jesus' Example
That God is opposed to the practice of
praying for fire to burn people is
eloquently attested to by the
statement of Christ when he was to
pass through some Samaritan villages and they would not let him pass as it is
written: "And it came to pass, when the
time was come that he should be
received up, he stedfastly set his face
to go to Jerusalem. And sent
messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the
Samaritans, to make ready for him. And
they did not receive him, because his
face was as though he would go to
Jerusalem. And when his disciples
James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire
to come down from heaven, and
consume them, even as Elias did? But
he turned, and rebuked them, and
said, "Ye know not what manner of
spirit ye are of. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but
to save them. And they went to
another village." - Luke 9:51-56
It could be seen that when prompted
by his enraged disciples to pray for fire
to destroy the Samaritans for their slight on him, Jesus Christ rebuked
them. But the professed Christians of
today would readily call for fire to
burn their enemies. God will not
answer such prayers. In the light of
the above, it is also wrong to use the incident in which the prophet Elijah
commanded fire to come from heaven
to destroy or consume two captains
and their bands (2 Kings 1) as basis
for holy ghost fire prayers. The
incident was an isolated one in the ministry of the prophet and should not
be applied in this time of grace. - John
1:17; 2 Corinthians 3:17.
Jesus Christ during his sermon on the
mount exhorted: "Ye have heard that it
hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But
I say unto you, Love your enemies,
bless them that curse you, do good to
them that hate you, and pray for them
which despitefully use you, and
persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in
heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise
on the evil and on the good, and
sendeth rain on the just and on the
unjust. For if ye love them which love
you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye
salute your brethren only, what do ye
more than others? do not even the
publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven
is perfect." - Matthew 5:43-48. See also Luke 6:27,28. Manner of Prayer
The Bible says that by their fruits ye
shall know them. (Matthew 7:16,20) It
is noteworthy that in the course of
prayers, some Christians today behave
like the worshippers of Baal in their encounter with Elijah as described in 1
Kings 18. They scream or shout
repeatedly at the top of their voices;
they engage in outlandish gestures
like vigorously waving their hands,
stamping their feet, rolling on the floor, pounding the wall with their
hands; running helter-skelter, uttering
incomprehensible sounds in the name
of speaking in tongues and so on.
These are not the manifestations of the
spirit of God which is "first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be
intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without
partiality, and without
hypocrisy." (James 3:17) The spirit of
God does not operate in such a way
that the person will lose control of himself and behave in a wild manner
for, the spirit of the prophet is "subject
to the prophets." - 1 Corinthians 14:32 |
Re: Is Holy Ghost Fire Prayer Biblical? by PianoWizard: 8:27am On Sep 17, 2017 |
EMILO2STAY:typing long epistles does not justify the fact that there is holy ghost fire. whether misconstrued or not. it exists 1 Like |
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