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Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Nobody: 1:58pm On Sep 18, 2017
In June 2013, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan proscribed Boko Haram as a terrorist Organisation. This, he did, without any recourse to the High Court as most people would expect; and reasonably so.

There are two sections in the TPA act that may be deployed into making such declarations: Section 2 and; Section 9.


source: http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/137586-jonathan-officially-declares-boko-haram-a-terrorist-organisation.html
The president approved the gazette on Tuesday.
President Goodluck Jonathan has formally approved the proscription of Boko Haram and authorized the gazetting of an order declaring the group’s activities as acts of terrorism.
The order, which has been gazetted as the Terrorism (Prevention) (Proscription Order) Notice 2013, affects both Boko Haram (Jamaatu Ahlis-Sunna Liddaawati Wal Jihad) and Jama’atu Ansarul Muslimina Fi Biladis Sudan (Ansaru). The order was approved by President Jonathan pursuant to section 2 0f the Terrorism Prevention Act, 2011 (As Amended).
A statement by the Special Adviser to the President on Media and Publicity, Rueben Abati, said this “officially brings the activities of both groups within the purview of the Terrorism Prevention Act and any persons associated with the two groups can now be legally prosecuted and sentenced to penalties specified in the Act”.
The statement said the proscription order warns the general public that any person “participating in any form of activities involving or concerning the collective intentions of the said groups will be violating the provisions of the Terrorism Prevention Act”.

The TPA act makes provision for the declaration of a group as being a Terrorist group on a number of grounds.

It is very easy to refer to[b] Section 2 of the act[/b] which makes provision for a process that involves judicial processes, procedures and pronouncement. Most applicable to local terrorism.

However [b]Section 9 of the act[/b]makes express approval for the executive arm to immediately declare a group as a Terrorist group. This is specifically in relation to international affiliations and sponsorship.

In the case of IPOB, there is reliable Intel available to the Nigerian Army suggesting the foreign links and backings of IPOB to certain international terrorism networks.

The move by the Nigerian Govt. is therefore in order and can only be upturned by any aggrieved person who takes the matter to a court of competent jurisdiction. In the mean time, the declaration remains in full force and anybody (either physically or over the internet), found to be soliciting for a terrorist group may be found culpable.

Let us be enlightened.

Regards,

CACAWA2


source: http://www.lawnigeria.com/LawsoftheFederation/Terrorism-(Prevention)-Act,-2011.html

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by paschu: 2:01pm On Sep 18, 2017
CRAP

You obviously lack basic comprehension skills.

***Edit

Mynd44, geez, did you seriously push this nonsense to the front page?

For goodness sake what are you mods thinking or doing? Geez!!!!

1. For Pete's sake, the quoted section of this crap said that:

President Goodluck Jonathan has formally approved the proscription of Boko Haram and authorized the gazetting of an order declaring the group’s activities as acts of terrorism.

It did not say that Jonathan just woke up one morning and issued the order.

2. The section 9 which the demented OP is ranting about was clearly about AN INDIVIDUAL who's proven to have links with an EXISTING international terror organization.

a) IPOB is NOT an individual or A PERSON. IPOB is a PEOPLE of a SPECIFIC geographic location.

b) Neither IPOB nor Nnamdi Kanu has ever been linked to any international terror group.

c) You guys should stop feeding Nigerians with falsehood.

I think Nairaland pushed this nonsense to the frontpage just to dilute the effect of Senate President's comment on the matter. You also did it to confuse the gullible Nairalanders. Otherwise, this crap should have had no spot on the front page.

#StopThisMadnessPlease

Seun, Mynd44

boostdom:
Do not fall victim to the dangers of false narratives as it's clearly now seen on Nairaland.

Go through the act in full here http://www.lawnigeria.com/LawsoftheFederation/Terrorism-(Prevention)-(Amendment)-Act,-2013.html

Under Jonathan, the FG approached the Federal High Court, Abuja for the proscription of Boko Haram as a terrorist group;

" In compliance with the foregoing provisions, and particularly Section 2(1)(c), the Federal Government (under Fmr. President G.E. Jonathan) approached the Federal High Court in Suit No.FHC/ABJ/CS/368/2013 on 24/05/2013 for the declaration/proscription of the notorious Boko Haram. That was granted (per Kafarati J of Federal High Court No.2 Abuja) and Boko Haram was officially “proscribed” by the COURT on the APPLICATION of the then ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE FEDERATION. Not the Army or the Governors. Not in the Court of Public Opinion (Media) but in the Court of Law.

Consequent upon that proscription and in compliance with Section 9(4) & (7) of the Terrorism (Prevention) Act 2011, the Federal Government proceeded to Gazette same in Federal Republic of Nigeria Official Gazette No. 34, Volume 100.

That Gazette was successfully relied upon in the cases of Federal Republic of Nigeria v. Mustapha Fawaz & 4 Ors (Unreported Charge No. FHC/ABJ/CR/112/13 (a Judgment delivered on 29/11/2013 per Hon. Justice A.F.A. Ademola of Federal High Court No. 6 Abuja) and Federal Republic of Nigeria v. Murktar Ibrahim (Unreported Charge No:FHC ABJ/CR/178/2017) per Justice G.O. Kolawole (of the Federal High Court No. 5 Abuja) on 20/11/2015."

Read the full details here http://thenigerialawyer.com/neither-the-military-nor-governors-has-the-legal-vires-to-declareproscribe-any-organization-as-terrorist-group-in-nigeria/

You have the ability to criticize dialectic reasoning. Use it and not fall victim to those now comically lying through the teeth.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by BudeYahooCom: 2:02pm On Sep 18, 2017
CACAWA2 you are muslim, your views should not be held as objective.

We know where your loyalty lies even before you open your mouth. Definitely not with common sense.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by wakaman: 2:03pm On Sep 18, 2017
Tell them, tell them!

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Nobody: 2:04pm On Sep 18, 2017
We should not respond to IPOB comments.

Not because we do not dialogue with Terrorists.

But because I can understand the pain and frustration they are going through, having lost a battle they thought would last for many years; in just 3 hours of military intimidation.

At the right time, one could sit them down for some lessons on global politics, strategy and propaganda.

I can authoritatively inform you that IPOB or whatever agitation for secession will never be condoned in Nigeria again.

Nobody has the monopoly of violence and threats.

The day they confronted Soldiers on their way to IMO state, and the soldiers gave up, they said "the zoo army is made of cowards"

Again, soldiers arrived at afara-ukwu, Nnamdi Kanu said "my men stopped them"

In another video, a member was heard saying "if any of them shoots, collect their guns"

Nnamdi Kanu also threatened with regards to his next court date "if I go to Abuja, I will return with Buhari's head"

He also said "no soldier will leave this place alive if they come to arrest me"

Now IPOB bereaved members are crying of molestation by the "coward zoo army".

They wish to run back to the courts of the "zoo country" after all these.

We set a trap, they fell in.
So let's keep silent as they lick their wounds.

With time, the wounds would heal, and we can all be wise again



Information:

The govt will not look for Nnamdi Kanu.
Arresting him will only help him garner sympathy.
The more he stays in hiding, the more his followers recover from their brainwash.

That was the trap he fell into.
Never to be seen or heard of again.

I only pity his sureties (Fayose inclusive)

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by PointZerom: 2:04pm On Sep 18, 2017
Must you people continue to deceive yourselves?. You said that GEJ was clueless yet every mistake he made your APC and Buhari will do the same. Pls you lots should cover your faces in shame.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by tooth4tooth: 2:07pm On Sep 18, 2017
PointZerom:
Must you people continue to deceive yourselves?. You said that GEJ was clueless yet every mistake he made your APC and Buhari will do the same. Pls you lots should cover your faces in shame.
You guys never dissapoint. Always shifting goalpost grin

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Jesusloveyou: 2:08pm On Sep 18, 2017
Is OK

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by nwabobo: 2:09pm On Sep 18, 2017
Cacawa2:
In June 2013, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan proscribed Boko Haram as a terrorist Organisation. This, he did, without any recourse to the High Court as most people would expect; and reasonably so.

There are two sections in the TPA act that may be deployed into making such declarations: Section 2 and; Section 9.



The TPA act makes provision for the declaration of a group as being a Terrorist group on a number of grounds.

It is very easy to refer to[b] Section 2 of the act[/b] which makes provision for a process that involves judicial processes, procedures and pronouncement. Most applicable to local terrorism.

However [b]Section 9 of the act[/b]makes express approval for the executive arm to immediately declare a group as a Terrorist group. This is specifically in relation to international affiliations and sponsorship.

In the case of IPOB, there is reliable Intel available to the Nigerian Army suggesting the foreign links and backings of IPOB to certain international terrorism networks.

The move by the Nigerian Govt. is therefore in order and can only be upturned by any aggrieved person who takes the matter to a court of competent jurisdiction. In the mean time, the declaration remains in full force and anybody (either physically or over the internet), found to be soliciting for a terrorist group may be found culpable.

Let us be enlightened.

Regards,

CACAWA2


source: http://www.lawnigeria.com/LawsoftheFederation/Terrorism-(Prevention)-Act,-2011.html

No wonder JAMB reduced cut off mark to 120

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by babyfaceafrica: 2:09pm On Sep 18, 2017
I agree

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by richidinho(m): 2:10pm On Sep 18, 2017
grin

So when is Buhari coming out to declare IPOB a terrorist group?

Some went to school but lack common sense grin

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Dollabiz: 2:10pm On Sep 18, 2017
Hmmmm
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Chiedu4Trump: 2:11pm On Sep 18, 2017
IPOB never killed anybody, yet they are hated more than Fulani Herdsmen l.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by bamite(m): 2:12pm On Sep 18, 2017
trash

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by BUHARItesticles: 2:12pm On Sep 18, 2017
Most youths are very dull mentally, how do you justify proscription of armless group as terrorist?
Does demonstration or call for referendum makes a group terrorist?
The truth is, Buhari acted poorly, the same mistake with Shia in Kaduna. We your child is crying, you shouldn't beat that child rather call passionately to listen to the cause. Buhari will not be the president forever, he is not God. The summary of the truth is the fulfillment of his vowed punishment to the south east for election loss in that region. Nagode!

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Hofbrauhaus(m): 2:12pm On Sep 18, 2017
angry

Illiterates now fault law makers.. The zoo cannot even obey her own constitution.


The terrorism Act, 2011 provides ground on which groups or persons can be classified or declared terrorists. See section 1 (1)(2)(a) and (b).
Secondly, to declare a group a terrorsit group and effectively proscribe it is an order only a judge pursuant to an application by the Attorney General of the Federation, can make. See section 2 (1)(c).

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by FTrebirth(m): 2:12pm On Sep 18, 2017
and the only reason this thread is on front page is because nairaland is anti-igbo...otherwise, how does cacawa's opinion matter in the grand scheme of things?

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Ngene44: 2:12pm On Sep 18, 2017
Do you think that will stop future agitations? biafra will always be a problem to Nigeria unless the burning issues is addressed. stop fulani herdsmen, stop sentiments in appointments, let us feel govt presence in the east.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by quiverfull(m): 2:12pm On Sep 18, 2017
Of course "The Epitome" of corruption misfired. He was just playing to the gallery, and trying to curry the favour of Igbos. He was just trying to make Buhari look bad.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Ekakamba: 2:13pm On Sep 18, 2017
BUHARItesticles:
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J Jimmy Jatt grin tongue
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by awa(m): 2:13pm On Sep 18, 2017
2 wrongs cannot make a right... We voted PMB because he is an honest and upright man....

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by davodyguy: 2:13pm On Sep 18, 2017
paschu:
CRAP

You obviously lack basic comprehension skills.

You that do not lack of it, let's have your view.

Note if such view is poorer than that which is expressed herein, then you should be castrated

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Lincoln275(m): 2:13pm On Sep 18, 2017
Most of us are just too brave on social media, you think war is all about pressing iPhone and other gadgets we use to promote war and violence on social media? Have you ever get stabbed or got into any serious street fight? can you even stab a goat? have you ever held a � in your life? you think you will have the opportunity to be facebook, twitter snap and others during war? You think you can still slay when there is war? And all the ballers, do you think Friday nights would still be the same? What will happen to all the cc top up, wire wire western union, moneygram and your iTunes cards? Do you think hunger is the same with fasting? If you have elders around you that can actually give you details of the biafran war honestly you will switch your attentions from violence to hustling hard, making good money and leaving a legacy behind for your unborn child. Youths pls don't get brainwashed by people that will eventually fly their families abroad when they use you to ignite war. ah don talk ma own oo. insult me or say whatever ever, I don't care but I promise you will remember my words one day. Biko- Dualla- Ejo make una think oo. #wakeupyouths #wakeupnigerians #ilovemycountry

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by arowstev2000: 2:13pm On Sep 18, 2017
Una too like wahala
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Segadem(m): 2:14pm On Sep 18, 2017
ok
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by UfuomaUN(m): 2:14pm On Sep 18, 2017
.Very intelligent lawyers like Falana et al have condemned Buhari's invasion of Umuahia as illegal, the Senate president- the very head of the arm of govt that makes the law have declared concured. The EU spoke with the same voice, and so have tens of well educated scholars with enviable portfolio interpreted the contents of section 217 and 271 of the Constitution. Why then should we give ear to a well known bigot armed with nothing but hate for everyone east of Ore and less than 50mb free data from MTN hardly enough to educate him through a simple internet search and intelligent arguments on YouTube. Your post is only on the front page cos nairaland generates traffic through trending controversies of which the most current is IPOB.

Can we just work on education in Nigeria so posts like this would be only heard in beer parlours and among fat old ladies planting corn somewhere in Zamfara in March

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by SageTravels: 2:14pm On Sep 18, 2017
PointZerom:
Must you people continue to deceive yourselves?. You said that GEJ was clueless yet every mistake he made your APC and Buhari will do the same. Pls you lots should cover your faces in shame.

You killed It. They are coping all his mistakes.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Beehshorp(m): 2:14pm On Sep 18, 2017
Cacawa2:
In June 2013, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan proscribed Boko Haram as a terrorist Organisation. This, he did, without any recourse to the High Court as most people would expect; and reasonably so.

There are two sections in the TPA act that may be deployed into making such declarations: Section 2 and; Section 9.



The TPA act makes provision for the declaration of a group as being a Terrorist group on a number of grounds.

It is very easy to refer to[b] Section 2 of the act[/b] which makes provision for a process that involves judicial processes, procedures and pronouncement. Most applicable to local terrorism.

However [b]Section 9 of the act[/b]makes express approval for the executive arm to immediately declare a group as a Terrorist group. This is specifically in relation to international affiliations and sponsorship.

In the case of IPOB, there is reliable Intel available to the Nigerian Army suggesting the foreign links and backings of IPOB to certain international terrorism networks.

The move by the Nigerian Govt. is therefore in order and can only be upturned by any aggrieved person who takes the matter to a court of competent jurisdiction. In the mean time, the declaration remains in full force and anybody (either physically or over the internet), found to be soliciting for a terrorist group may be found culpable.

Let us be enlightened.

Regards,

CACAWA2


source: http://www.lawnigeria.com/LawsoftheFederation/Terrorism-(Prevention)-Act,-2011.html









Are you sure you went to school or are you among those fortunate kids that got hold of an Internet enabled phone at a young age?

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by attackgat: 2:15pm On Sep 18, 2017
Cacawa2:
In June 2013, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan proscribed Boko Haram as a terrorist Organisation. This, he did, without any recourse to the High Court as most people would expect; and reasonably so.

There are two sections in the TPA act that may be deployed into making such declarations: Section 2 and; Section 9.



The TPA act makes provision for the declaration of a group as being a Terrorist group on a number of grounds.

It is very easy to refer to[b] Section 2 of the act[/b] which makes provision for a process that involves judicial processes, procedures and pronouncement. Most applicable to local terrorism.

However [b]Section 9 of the act[/b]makes express approval for the executive arm to immediately declare a group as a Terrorist group. This is specifically in relation to international affiliations and sponsorship.

In the case of IPOB, there is reliable Intel available to the Nigerian Army suggesting the foreign links and backings of IPOB to certain international terrorism networks.

The move by the Nigerian Govt. is therefore in order and can only be upturned by any aggrieved person who takes the matter to a court of competent jurisdiction. In the mean time, the declaration remains in full force and anybody (either physically or over the internet), found to be soliciting for a terrorist group may be found culpable.

Let us be enlightened.

Regards,

CACAWA2


source: http://www.lawnigeria.com/LawsoftheFederation/Terrorism-(Prevention)-Act,-2011.html

But neither the executive arm of Government nor did the Presidency declare IPOB a terrorist organisation, the Nigerian Army did

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