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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by fuelsaver: 3:27pm On Sep 18, 2017
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Nobody: 3:29pm On Sep 18, 2017
FTrebirth:
and the only reason this thread is on front page is because nairaland is anti-igbo...otherwise, how does cacawa's opinion matter in the grand scheme of things?
You are wrong because when saraki denounced the proscription of IPOB,it hit the front page.So why are you crying foul now?

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by sanpipita(m): 3:33pm On Sep 18, 2017
Haha he posted a well gazetted process done by GEJ and then said Saraki misfired? Which process did Buhari and his Army follow before declaring IPOB a terror group, God help us from buhari and his zombies, wahala dey.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by lightwind(m): 3:43pm On Sep 18, 2017
OP u are a big forgotten FOOL, did u remember how many people that were killed in Suicide attacks,bombings going on everywhere in d North carried out by BOKO HARAM? before ex president Goodluck Jonathan declared them a TERRORIST organisation... once again ur are a big forgotten FOOL
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by idupaul: 3:46pm On Sep 18, 2017
Cacawa2:
In June 2013, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan proscribed Boko Haram as a terrorist Organisation. This, he did, without any recourse to the High Court as most people would expect; and reasonably so.

There are two sections in the TPA act that may be deployed into making such declarations: Section 2 and; Section 9.



The TPA act makes provision for the declaration of a group as being a Terrorist group on a number of grounds.

It is very easy to refer to[b] Section 2 of the act[/b] which makes provision for a process that involves judicial processes, procedures and pronouncement. Most applicable to local terrorism.

However [b]Section 9 of the act[/b]makes express approval for the executive arm to immediately declare a group as a Terrorist group. This is specifically in relation to international affiliations and sponsorship.

In the case of IPOB, there is reliable Intel available to the Nigerian Army suggesting the foreign links and backings of IPOB to certain international terrorism networks.

The move by the Nigerian Govt. is therefore in order and can only be upturned by any aggrieved person who takes the matter to a court of competent jurisdiction. In the mean time, the declaration remains in full force and anybody (either physically or over the internet), found to be soliciting for a terrorist group may be found culpable.

Let us be enlightened.

Regards,

CACAWA2


source: http://www.lawnigeria.com/LawsoftheFederation/Terrorism-(Prevention)-Act,-2011.html

Absolute nonsense..so where is Buhari's signed Gazzette..you think you can just turn common sense and law on its head as you please shei

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by lightwind(m): 3:47pm On Sep 18, 2017
sanpipita:
Haha he posted a well gazetted process done by GEJ and then said Saraki misfired? Which process did Buhari and his Army follow before declaring IPOB a terror group, God help us from buhari and his zombies, wahala dey.
my guy wahala dey truly i tell u.. that OP is a Fulani patriot he's high on ugu leaf hahaha
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by franudi: 3:48pm On Sep 18, 2017
Which one be cacawa2, when Senate president is talking.
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by lightwind(m): 3:49pm On Sep 18, 2017
CACAWA2,real Fulani Hausa man hahaha
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by mfm04622: 3:51pm On Sep 18, 2017
ONYII4TRUT:


GREAT ADVICE, BUT HOW LONG WILL THE INJUSTICE CONTINUE?

What injustice has the Easterners been subjected to? What is happening to the Igbo that is not happening to other ethnic groups?
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by kjhova(m): 3:56pm On Sep 18, 2017
FTrebirth:
and the only reason this thread is on front page is because nairaland is anti-igbo...otherwise, how does cacawa's opinion matter in the grand scheme of things?

No, Nairaland is anti-secession. That is clearly stated in the basic rules of the forum. If you are not comfortable with that, please get served some chilled poto poto.

All eastern governors came together to declare IPOB proscribed. Unless you suggest that the governments of Enugu, Abia, Anambra, Imo and Ebonyi are anit-Igbo, your comment above equates only to hubris.

CACAWA has responded to a public matter just like all of us have been since last week and it is within their rights to so do.

IPOB, is officially a terror organization and every individual (in Aba or online or hiding under "popsy's bed"wink who is found to habour associative feeling for such terror organization is liable under extant laws. Be advised before eish hits you and you find yourself rolling in the mud like a pig.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by konoplyanka: 3:58pm On Sep 18, 2017
FTrebirth:
and the only reason this thread is on front page is because nairaland is anti-igbo...otherwise, how does cacawa's opinion matter in the grand scheme of things?

victim mentality on display. the whole world is against you flat headed monsters.
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by konoplyanka: 3:58pm On Sep 18, 2017
konoplyanka:


victim mentality on display. the whole world is against you flat headed monsters.
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by konoplyanka: 4:00pm On Sep 18, 2017
franudi:
Which one be cacawa2, when Senate president is talking.

who is senate president? is he a lawyer?
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by konoplyanka: 4:01pm On Sep 18, 2017
lightwind:
OP u are a big forgotten FOOL, did u remember how many people that were killed in Suicide attacks,bombings going on everywhere in d North carried out by BOKO HARAM? before ex president Goodluck Jonathan declared them a TERRORIST organisation... once again ur are a big forgotten FOOL

do you know how many hausa lives were in danger in the east before ipob was proscribed?
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by nairanaira12: 4:06pm On Sep 18, 2017
paschu:
CRAP

You obviously lack basic comprehension skills.

***Edit

Mynd44, geez, did you seriously push this nonsense to the front page?

For goodness sake what are you mods thinking or doing? Geez!!!!

1. For Pete's sake, the quoted section of this crap said that:



It did not say that Jonathan just woke up one morning and issued the order.

2. The section 9 which the demented OP is ranting about was clearly about AN INDIVIDUAL who's proven to have links with an EXISTING international terror organization.

a) IPOB is NOT an individual or A PERSON. IPOB is a PEOPLE of a SPECIFIC geographic location.

b) Neither IPOB nor Nnamdi Kanu has ever been linked to any international terror group.

c) You guys should stop feeding Nigerians with falsehood.

I think Nairaland pushed this nonsense to the frontpage just to dilute the effect of Senate President's comment on the matter. You also did it to confuse the gullible Nairalanders. Otherwise, this crap should have had no spot on the front page.

#StopThisMadnessPlease

Seun, Mynd44


I'm waiting for them to make public those international terrorism organisations associated to IPOB.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by nairanaira12: 4:09pm On Sep 18, 2017
tooth4tooth:
You guys never dissapoint. Always shifting goalpost grin

But can you mention those international terrorism organisations t'ó which IPOB is linked ?
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by JeffreyJamez(m): 4:11pm On Sep 18, 2017
I strongly believe the government has actionable Intel on Ipob before they made the declaration. No be Everything public dey know.
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by joe120120(m): 4:16pm On Sep 18, 2017
Literate educated cacawa 2
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by FTrebirth(m): 4:17pm On Sep 18, 2017
konoplyanka:


victim mentality on display. the whole world is against you flat headed monsters.
stupidity in display.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by FTrebirth(m): 4:18pm On Sep 18, 2017
kjhova:


No, Nairaland is anti-secession. That is clearly stated in the basic rules of the forum. If you are not comfortable with that, please get served some chilled poto poto.

All eastern governors came together to declare IPOB proscribed. Unless you suggest that the governments of Enugu, Abia, Anambra, Imo and Ebonyi are anit-Igbo, your comment above equates only to hubris.

CACAWA has responded to a public matter just like all of us have been since last week and it is within their rights to so do.

IPOB, is officially a terror organization and every individual (in Aba or online or hiding under "popsy's bed"wink who is found to habour associative feeling for such terror organization is liable under extant laws. Be advised before eish hits you and you find yourself rolling in the mud like a pig.
ok, your sarcasm is noted.
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Nyouth: 4:27pm On Sep 18, 2017
you guys from the West are happy that an innocent group has been unjustly and illegally declared a terror organization by the military. there by making the group to have a rethink on the part to now follow, now they are being hunted. if Nigerians are wise and keeps records it should worry us what IPOB is up to now they have gone underground. am I afraid if a group like IPOB decides to go the terror part considering there Number I don't know what Nigeria will turn to. we should all learn to speak the truth at all times no matter who is involved. my humble opinion.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by juszoe82: 4:40pm On Sep 18, 2017
Before i use to respect Saraki but for this one he failed woefully and sound as if he does not know his right.

He should know that IPOB is a freedom agitator and does not have any link to any terrorist organization.

I dont know why our so called leaders are so blind and outdated in modern life.

Mr Saraki let me asked you why is it that you are delaying to tag arewa,OPC, fulani herdsmen or other group terrorist and why IPOB?.

That is the hatred i am talking about, how can we be one in a country that discriminates alot.

IPOB is not a terrorist and have never done any terrorist act. All the allegations are propaganda so forget whatever army didipob at south east is just as a result ignorant but to treat all south east as terrorist is unacceptable and will be retaliated even with the last drop of our blood.

You stupid idiots should should dialogue on a peaceful round table to address the general problem and decide if nigeria should exist or not. The unity of nigeria is still negotiable as far as all the issues that is causing all this agitations are unaddressed. Is better we do the right thing now so that every body will be on the same page than to start looking for solutions and peace when everything are totally destroyed.

If you said we are one nigeria then show me truly that we are one nigeria with equality,fairness and equity.

Cacawa2:
In June 2013, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan proscribed Boko Haram as a terrorist Organisation. This, he did, without any recourse to the High Court as most people would expect; and reasonably so.

There are two sections in the TPA act that may be deployed into making such declarations: Section 2 and; Section 9.



The TPA act makes provision for the declaration of a group as being a Terrorist group on a number of grounds.

It is very easy to refer to[b] Section 2 of the act[/b] which makes provision for a process that involves judicial processes, procedures and pronouncement. Most applicable to local terrorism.

However [b]Section 9 of the act[/b]makes express approval for the executive arm to immediately declare a group as a Terrorist group. This is specifically in relation to international affiliations and sponsorship.

In the case of IPOB, there is reliable Intel available to the Nigerian Army suggesting the foreign links and backings of IPOB to certain international terrorism networks.

The move by the Nigerian Govt. is therefore in order and can only be upturned by any aggrieved person who takes the matter to a court of competent jurisdiction. In the mean time, the declaration remains in full force and anybody (either physically or over the internet), found to be soliciting for a terrorist group may be found culpable.

Let us be enlightened.

Regards,

CACAWA2


source: http://www.lawnigeria.com/LawsoftheFederation/Terrorism-(Prevention)-Act,-2011.html
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Awoo88: 4:43pm On Sep 18, 2017
Op is either a BMC guy or an idiot looking for cheap attention

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by kindklemz(m): 4:49pm On Sep 18, 2017
FTrebirth:
and the only reason this thread is on front page is because nairaland is anti-igbo...otherwise, how does cacawa's opinion matter in the grand scheme of things?

So IPOD is now Igbo and Igbo is IPod.
It is now safe to say that Igbos were searching for Hausas to kill in Buses in Aba?
Igbo leaders headed by Nnamdi Kanusaid he was going to kill Me President and Bring back his head.
Kanu said that if he is re-arested Igbos should burn down Nigeria.
That is how peaceful Igbos are.
According to you!
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by kindklemz(m): 4:53pm On Sep 18, 2017
Nyouth:
you guys from the West are happy that an innocent group has been unjustly and illegally declared a terror organization by the military. there by making the group to have a rethink on the part to now follow, now they are being hunted. if Nigerians are wise and keeps records it should worry us what IPOB is up to now they have gone underground. am I afraid if a group like IPOB decides to go the terror part considering there Number I don't know what Nigeria will turn to. we should all learn to speak the truth at all times no matter who is involved. my humble opinion.

No, Nigeria will turn to nothing. It will only affect the Eastern region.
It beat my imagination that a sane human would support the atrocities Kanuand his gang were Visiting on Nigeria.
You guys are not any better than the Fulani militias.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by FTrebirth(m): 4:57pm On Sep 18, 2017
kindklemz:


So IPOD is now Igbo and Igbo is IPod.
It is now safe to say that Igbos were searching for Hausas to kill in Buses in Aba?
Igbo leaders headed by Nnamdi Kanusaid he was going to kill Me President and Bring back his head.
Kanu said that if he is re-arested Igbos should burn down Nigeria.
That is how peaceful Igbos are.
According to you!
oga, if you browse through my posts on nairaland you will find out that i've always condemned nnamdi kanu's approach to this secession of a thing. he's uncouth and noisy and should be locked up for a very long time.
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by Vicilo(m): 4:57pm On Sep 18, 2017
In as much as i don't condone the ipob practices, I think d FG govt are clueless. The name can as well be changed from iPob to ipib Indigenous People In Biafra.

But why does Yoruba's hate this IBO's that have done them no harm and love the Hausa's that have terminated many prominent Yoruba leaders over the years? Abiola etc.

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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by blacknp(m): 5:02pm On Sep 18, 2017
BudeYahooCom:
CACAWA2 is muslim, your views should not be held as objective.

Senators urge Jonathan to declare 'total war' on Boko Haram ...
https://www​.vanguardngr.com/.../senators...
16 Sep 2014 ... Senators said Tuesday they will meet with President Goodluck Jonathan to press him to declare “total war” on

My arguement if the senators were begging jonathan to declare war on Boko Haram then what has President Buhari done wrong in declaring Ipob as a terrorist group?did the senators pass a law banning the activities of Boko haram or they begged jonathan to declare them "personna non grata"?
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by blacknp(m): 5:11pm On Sep 18, 2017
BUHARItesticles:
Most youths are very dull mentally, how do you justify proscription of armless group as terrorist?
Does demonstration or call for referendum makes a group terrorist?
The truth is, Buhari acted poorly, the same mistake with Shia in Kaduna. We your child is crying, you shouldn't beat that child rather call passionately to listen to the cause. Buhari will not be the president forever, he is not God. The summary of the truth is the fulfillment of his vowed punishment to the south east for election loss in that region. Nagode!
Election loss? but he is the President of Nigeria,i believe all the Igbo votes from the South east are soaked somewhere inside the River Niger,worthless gabbage,keep your votes for the Hausa Fulani man pdp will produce as their presidential candidate,President Buhari did not need your vote in 2015 and he surely doesn't need your vote in 2019.

Please give all your votes to pdp like you did in the past.
Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by GetMeRight: 5:11pm On Sep 18, 2017
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Re: Saraki Misfired: The Proscription Of IPOB Was Not Against The Law - CACAWA2 by GetMeRight: 5:12pm On Sep 18, 2017
Chiedu4Trump:
IPOB never killed anybody, yet they are hated more than Fulani Herdsmen l.
Say that again and you will be defending the links that reported the number of policemen they have killed in the past.

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