Nuhvey:
U haven't still addressed the issue.. We can all conclude therefore on this

Eeyah "we" can all conclude?

Anyway "we" can also now conclude that you are deliberately feigning ignorance despite being responded to in an ABC manner.

hahn:


Are you calling Jehovah useless?

Jehovah is a fraud and an impostor. As a Deist I believe in God but Yahweh is the work of the imagination of a tribe. He is to be denounced, not worshipped.

butterflylion:


It's called trashing your OP

Thrashing my OP or writing a trashy epistle? If they leave you now you'll feel you've made sense.

butterflylion:


Eeyah "we" can now conclude?

Anyway "we" can also now conclude that you are deliberately feigning ignorance despite being responded to in an ABC manner.

Feigning ignorance?? Heck, there's no sense in ur answer.. Totally ignoring the original question "how you rob God in tithes and offerings", and jumping to "to put God first in your life", and finally landing in "love ur brethren".. Anyways, its ur delusion.. Continue in it

dalaman:


Thrashing my OP or writing a trashy epistle? If they leave you now you'll feel you've made sense.

The mere fact that you have nothing further to say as a rebuttal to my comment rather than repeatedly saying "it's trashy" goes to show your OP has been trashed.

You see, any right thinking person knows that SCRIPTURE EXPLAINS SCRIPTURE!

if you pick out a single line of scripture and claim it is erroneous then to justify your claim you need to go back to where it was first spoken in scripture and what conditions were present when that was done.

I took you back to what God meant tithes for and why and that alone defeats your OP which claimed God was asking for tithes FOR HIMSELF.

However I did not stop there. I had to also teach you the purpose for tithing and also show you that God himself declared in Psalm 50:10-12,

“For every beast of the forest is Mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills. I know all the birds of the mountains, and the wild beasts of the field are Mine. If I were hungry, I would not tell you; for the world is Mine, and all its fullness.”

What would a God who owns everything then need your tithes for? He already declared who it is meant for but of course as expected you would deny that even after I already itemised it for you in my response thus:

Numbers 18:20-21,“Then the LORD said to Aaron: “You shall have no inheritance in their land, nor shall you have any portion among them; I am your portion and your inheritance among the children of Israel. “Behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tithes in Israel as an inheritance in return for the work which they perform, the work of the tabernacle of meeting.



Deuteronomy 14:22-23, “You must tithe all of your crops every year. Bring this tithe to eat before the Lord your God at the place he shall choose as his sanctuary; this applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn of your flocks and herds


Are those not also found in your Bible version or are those pages missing?

Nuhvey:

Feigning ignorance?? Heck, there's no sense in ur answer.. Totally ignoring the original question "how you rob God in tithes and offerings", and jumping to "to put God first in your life", and finally landing in "love ur brethren".. Anyways, its ur delusion.. Continue in it

It's obvious you are feigning ignorance despite my simple response. Are the pages or scriptures I mentioned which show whom the tithe is meant for in the books of numbers and Deuteronomy missing from your online Bible?

what butterflylion is saying is different from what some pastors are saying and they are all correct according to the bible

onyenze123:
what butterflylion is saying is different from what some pastors are saying and they are all correct according to the bible

No the true spirit of God does not lie and simply because a pastor says something does not mean it is the spirit of God that said it. This is why we are admonished to test every spirit to know that which is of God.

Hear the very words of Jesus in Mathew 23:23

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye pay tithes of mint and anise and cummin, and ye have left aside the weightier matters of the law, judgment and mercy and faith: these ye ought to have done and not have left those aside

Mercy speaks of selflessness. Mercy speaks of giving and loving and helping. For tithing to be complete and acceptable it has to be meant for what God declared it is for and I already said what it's meant for in the book of numbers and Deuteronomy. Tithe is meant for the levites who serve ONLY and SOLELY in the house of God and also for all of God's Children who need to be taken care of.

So you see the truth remains the truth especially when God himself already said what tithes are for and who they are for. Quoting Malachi 3:8 -10 in isolation without reference to its origin is not the spirit of God's declaration but a mans word.

Greed and selfishness can make anyone twist scripture to their favour but that does not in any way change the original word and purpose behind the word as spoken by God. When you follow men (pastors) and not God or God in the Pastors (if you understand what I meant by that) then you would always get it wrong.

This was why Galatians 1: 6 - 9 says

6. I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,

7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.

9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

butterflylion:


The mere fact that you have nothing further to say as a rebuttal to my comment rather than repeatedly saying "it's trashy" goes to show your OP has been trashed.

You see, any right thinking person knows that SCRIPTURE EXPLAINS SCRIPTURE!

if you pick out a single line of scripture and claim it is erroneous then to justify your claim you need to go back to where it was first spoken in scripture and what conditions were present when that was done.

I took you back to what God meant tithes for and why and that alone defeats your OP which claimed God was asking for tithes FOR HIMSELF.

However I did not stop there. I had to also teach you the purpose for tithing and also show you that God himself declared in Psalm 50:10-12,

“For every beast of the forest is Mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills. I know all the birds of the mountains, and the wild beasts of the field are Mine. If I were hungry, I would not tell you; for the world is Mine, and all its fullness.”

What would a God who owns everything then need your tithes for? He already declared who it is meant for but of course as expected you would deny that even after I already itemised it for you in my response thus:

Numbers 18:20-21,“Then the LORD said to Aaron: “You shall have no inheritance in their land, nor shall you have any portion among them; I am your portion and your inheritance among the children of Israel. “Behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tithes in Israel as an inheritance in return for the work which they perform, the work of the tabernacle of meeting.



Deuteronomy 14:22-23, “You must tithe all of your crops every year. Bring this tithe to eat before the Lord your God at the place he shall choose as his sanctuary; this applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn of your flocks and herds


Are those not also found in your Bible version or are those pages missing?

My OP is very simple. You were the one that went about writing meaningless epistles on tithe. You didn't read the OP to understand it but just to make your meaningless commentary on it. I just gave the passage on tithe to show you where God according to the bible said people were robbing him because of tithe and offering.

The OP is simple. Why should an all sufficient God ask people to give him anything and why are people using God's name to beg?

The bible says people should give God goodies, why is an all sufficient God asking for goodies? Only a needy God acts that way.

Exodus 35:4-5 – “Moses said to all the congregation of the people of Israel, ‘This is the thing that the Lord has commanded. Take from among you a contribution to the Lord. Whoever is of a generous heart, let him bring the Lord’s contribution …’”

Exodus 25:1 – “T[b]he Lord said to Moses, “‘Speak to the people of Israel, that they take for Me a contribution. From every man whose heart moves Him you shall receive the contribution for Me.’[/b]”

Deuteronomy 16:16b, 17 – “They shall not appear before the LORD empty-handed. Every man shall give as he is able, according to the blessing of the LORD your God that He has given you.”

This needy God doesn't sound like an all sufficient being at all. An all sufficient being won't be begging/ telling people to give him anything because he is already self sufficient.

butterflylion:


The mere fact that you have nothing further to say as a rebuttal to my comment rather than repeatedly saying "it's trashy" goes to show your OP has been trashed.

You see, any right thinking person knows that SCRIPTURE EXPLAINS SCRIPTURE!

if you pick out a single line of scripture and claim it is erroneous then to justify your claim you need to go back to where it was first spoken in scripture and what conditions were present when that was done.

I took you back to what God meant tithes for and why and that alone defeats your OP which claimed God was asking for tithes FOR HIMSELF.

However I did not stop there. I had to also teach you the purpose for tithing and also show you that God himself declared in Psalm 50:10-12,

“For every beast of the forest is Mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills. I know all the birds of the mountains, and the wild beasts of the field are Mine. If I were hungry, I would not tell you; for the world is Mine, and all its fullness.”

What would a God who owns everything then need your tithes for? He already declared who it is meant for but of course as expected you would deny that even after I already itemised it for you in my response thus:

Numbers 18:20-21,“Then the LORD said to Aaron: “You shall have no inheritance in their land, nor shall you have any portion among them; I am your portion and your inheritance among the children of Israel. “Behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tithes in Israel as an inheritance in return for the work which they perform, the work of the tabernacle of meeting.



Deuteronomy 14:22-23, “You must tithe all of your crops every year. Bring this tithe to eat before the Lord your God at the place he shall choose as his sanctuary; this applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn of your flocks and herds


Are those not also found in your Bible version or are those pages missing?

You know say na roman bible him dey use na?

dalaman:


My OP is very simple. You were the one that went about writing meaningless epistles on tithe. You didn't read the OP to understand it but just to make your meaningless commentary on it. I just gave the passage on tithe to show you where God according to the bible said people were robbing him because of tithe and offering.

The OP is simple. Why should an all sufficient God ask people to give him anything and why are people using God's name to beg?

The bible says people should give God goodies, why is an all sufficient God asking for goodies? Only a needy God acts that way.

Exodus 35:4-5 – “Moses said to all the congregation of the people of Israel, ‘This is the thing that the Lord has commanded. Take from among you a contribution to the Lord. Whoever is of a generous heart, let him bring the Lord’s contribution …’”

Exodus 25:1 – “T[b]he Lord said to Moses, “‘Speak to the people of Israel, that they take for Me a contribution. From every man whose heart moves Him you shall receive the contribution for Me.’[/b]”

Deuteronomy 16:16b, 17 – “They shall not appear before the LORD empty-handed. Every man shall give as he is able, according to the blessing of the LORD your God that He has given you.”

This needy God doesn't sound like an all sufficient being at all. An all sufficient being won't be begging/ telling people to give him anything because he is already self sufficient.

Your OP is silly bro

Even the scriptures you desperately posted here are silly if you fail to see the purpose of Gods comment after he said it. Let me begin by posting the later parts of Exodus 35 from verse 20

20 Then the whole Israelite community withdrew from Moses’ presence,
21 and everyone who was [b]willing and whose heart moved them came and brought an offering to the Lord for the work on the tent of meeting, for all its service, and for the sacred garments[/b].
22 All who were willing, men and women alike, came and brought gold jewelry of all kinds: brooches, earrings, rings and ornaments. They all presented their gold as a wave offering to the Lord.
23 Everyone who had blue, purple or scarlet yarn or fine linen, or goat hair, ram skins dyed red or the other durable leather brought them.
24 Those presenting an offering of silver or bronze brought it as an offering to the Lord, and everyone who had acacia wood for any part of the work brought it.
25 Every skilled woman spun with her hands and brought what she had spun—blue, purple or scarlet yarn or fine linen.
26 And all the women who were willing and had the skill spun the goat hair.
27 The leaders brought onyx stones and other gems to be mounted on the ephod and breastpiece.
28 They also brought spices and olive oil for the light and for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense.
29 All the Israelite men and women who were willing brought to the Lord freewill offerings for all the work the Lord through Moses had commanded them to do.

The highlighted parts show that God was working on their generosity and also the demand was for the work of the tabernacle and not for God.

Now to your Exodus 25. Unlike you I will quote from verse 1 to 9

25 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Tell the Israelites to bring me an offering. You are to receive the offering for me from everyone whose heart prompts them to give. 3 These are the offerings you are to receive from them: gold, silver and bronze; 4 blue, purple and scarlet yarn and fine linen; goat hair; 5 ram skins dyed red and another type of durable leather[a]; acacia wood; 6 olive oil for the light; spices for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense; 7 and onyx stones and other gems to be mounted on the ephod and breastpiece.

8 “Then have them make a sanctuary for me, and I will dwell among them. 9 Make this tabernacle and all its furnishings exactly like the pattern I will show you.

Again you can see that the demand was for the building of the tabernacle which today the tabernacle of God is the hearts of men which was why Jesus said what he said in Mathew 25: 31 -45

Now to your Deuteronomy 16. Let me quote from verse 13 to 17 unlike you who simply cherry picked from verse 16

13 Celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles for seven days after you have gathered the produce of your threshing floor and your winepress.
14 Be joyful at your festival—you, your sons and daughters, your male and female servants, and the Levites, the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns.
15 For seven days celebrate the festival to the Lord your God at the place the Lord will choose. For the Lord your God will bless you in all your harvest and in all the work of your hands, and your joy will be complete.

16 Three times a year all your men must appear before the Lord your God at the place he will choose: at the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the Festival of Weeks and the Festival of Tabernacles. No one should appear before the Lord empty-handed:
17 Each of you must bring a gift in proportion to the way the Lord your God has blessed you.

In case you missed it, widows, levites, the fatherless, foreigners were all mentioned there and that was due to the following

1. FESTIVAL of weeks. This is a time of celebration and feasting by all of Israel for the time of harvest. THEY ALL EAT a portion of their harvest and are commanded to share it with all the already listed people above.

2. FESTIVAL OR FEAST of tabernacles. During the Feast of Tabernacles, the Jewish people were to gather together in Jerusalem not only to remember God's provision in the Wilderness but also to look forward to that promised Messianic age when all nations will flow to this city to worship the Lord. THIS IS DONE WITH MERRIMENT AND FEASTING.

So a portion is to come from everyone for this purpose. Everyone is to share from all each one brings.

Clearly you can see that God is still teaching care, kindness, mercy, help, goodness and a desire to do good to others and not be selfish.

GOD DEMANDS NOTHING FROM ANYONE FOR HIMSELF. ALL IS FOR OURSELVES AND OUR OWN GOOD.

onyenze123:
what butterflylion is saying is different from what some pastors are saying and they are all correct according to the bible

He is giving his OPINION and INTERPRETATION as the final one. Even the writers of the bible have different opinions with regards to tithe, that is why pastors are able to use it which ever way they want.

felixomor:


You know say na roman bible him dey use na?

I know

dalaman:


He is giving his OPINION and INTERPRETATION as the final one. Even the writers of the bible have different opinions with regards to tithe, that is why pastors are able to use it which ever way they want.

I once asked my friend if the message of eternal life is as important as it is being sounded by Christians (and other religious folks) while can't God communicate to everyone, I mean like a broadcast the one and true message? why does he allow confusion and corruption of this important message?

butterflylion:


No the true spirit of God does not lie and simply because a pastor says something does not mean it is the spirit of God that said it. This is why we are admonished to test every spirit to know that which is of God.

Hear the very words of Jesus in Mathew 23:23

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye pay tithes of mint and anise and cummin, and ye have left aside the weightier matters of the law, judgment and mercy and faith: these ye ought to have done and not have left those aside

Mercy speaks of selflessness. Mercy speaks of giving and loving and helping. For tithing to be complete and acceptable it has to be meant for what God declared it is for and I already said what it's meant for in the book of numbers and Deuteronomy. Tithe is meant for the levites who serve ONLY and SOLELY in the house of God and also for all of God's Children who need to be taken care of.

So you see the truth remains the truth especially when God himself already said what tithes are for and who they are for. Quoting Malachi 3:8 -10 in isolation without reference to its origin is not the spirit of God's declaration but a mans word.

Greed and selfishness can make anyone twist scripture to their favour but that does not in any way change the original word and purpose behind the word as spoken by God. When you follow men (pastors) and not God or God in the Pastors (if you understand what I meant by that) then you would always get it wrong.

This was why Galatians 1: 6 - 9 says

6. I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,

7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.

9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

Why does the spirit allow these pastors to continue to lead the sheep astray without caution/restrain?

Mujtahida:

Jehovah is a fraud and an impostor. As a Deist I believe in God but Yahweh is the works of the imagination of a tribe. He is to be denounced, not worshipped.

What evidence do you have for this god you believe in?

onyenze123:



I once asked my friend if the message of eternal life is as important as it is being sounded by Christians (and other religious folks) while can't God communicate to everyone, I mean like a broadcast the one and true message? why does he allow confusion and corruption of this important message?

Your comment is like the conversation the rich man had with Abraham as said in Luke 16 : 27 - 32

27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house,

28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’

29 Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’

30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’

31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”

How many times have you ever believed all you were told be it personally or over the television?

Even now you are being offered a broadcast through me and you still deny and reject it so if you cannot believe a fellow human whom you see is it a God you do not see that you can believe WITHOUT FAITH?

onyenze123:


Why does the spirit allow these pastors to continue to lead the sheep astray without caution/restrain?

God does not "allow" anything. He has already told "the sheep" what to do and how to know the truth but many still wish to follow men and gratify their flesh.

2nd Timothy 2:15

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth

1st John 4: 1

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world

Acts 17:11

Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true

dalaman:


What is this pile of hot thrash??

Like seriously ask person one he day answer 40

butterflylion:



25 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Tell the Israelites to bring me an offering. You are to receive the offering for me from everyone whose heart prompts them to give. 3 These are the offerings you are to receive from them: gold, silver and bronze; 4 blue, purple and scarlet yarn and fine linen; goat hair; 5 ram skins dyed red and another type of durable leather[a]; acacia wood; 6 olive oil for the light; spices for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense; 7 and onyx stones and other gems to be mounted on the ephod and breastpiece.

8 “Then have them make a sanctuary for me, and I will dwell among them. 9 Make this tabernacle and all its furnishings exactly like the pattern I will show you.




Again you can see that the demand was for the building of the tabernacle which today the tabernacle of God is the hearts of men which was why Jesus said what he said in Mathew 25: 31 -45

You are clearly making things up. The passage is very clear. It has God telling people to bring and offer specific things to build a terbancle for him.

Why will an all sufficient God require people to bring things and build anything for him? Only a needy God will do that and not an all sufficient one. You then went to spin it to say that the tabernacle is now in the hearts of men. Na wah oo.

Deicide:

Like seriously ask person one he day answer 40

I tire oo.

butterflylion:


Your comment is like the conversation the rich man had with Abraham as said in Luke 16 : 27 - 32

27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house,

28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’

29 Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’

30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’

31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”

How many times have you ever believed all you were told be it personally or over the television?

Even now you are being offered a broadcast through me and you still deny and reject it so if you cannot believe a fellow human whom you see is it a God you do not see that you can believe WITHOUT FAITH?

What is this pile of hot thrash?

So God wants to reach him and it is you that is doing the job for God abi?

God wants him to believe in him yet you are the one doing the talking? Do.you truly know how you sound?

hahn:


Your god better get a job and stop begging upandan. God of bambi allahs. Omni begging god

BELOVE! JESUS CHRIST IS NOT IN NEED, HE IS EAGER TO MEET OUR EVERY NEED...DON'T MIND THOSE PEOPLE WHO GOES ABOUT PAINTING GOD AS A SOMEONE WHO WANT FROM US..THE ONLY THING CHRIST NEEDS FROM US IS OUR TRUST

THE WISDOM OF CHRIST IS IN YOU BRO..YOU ARE BLESSED

SIR, YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD IN YOU...YOU HAVE THE TRUTH...THE PASTOR'S(THOUGH NOT ALL) OF THIS GENERATION IS MISLEADING MANY FROM CHRIST JESUS WHO IS THE GRACE AND POWER OF GOD BY THEIR DEVILISH AND IGNORANT SERMONS

dalaman:


You are clearly making things up. The passage is very clear. It has God telling people to bring and offer specific things to build a terbancle for him.

Why will an all sufficient God require people to bring things and build anything for him? Only a needy God will do that and not an all sufficient one. You then went to spin it to say that the tabernacle is now in the hearts of men. Na wah oo.

Your confusion is on autopilot.

What does ALL SUFFICIENT mean?

In Hebrew this title is El-Shaddai. El means the Strong One, the Mighty One, and Shaddai, implying the meaning of breast, udder, means all-sufficient. El-Shaddai is the Mighty One with an udder, the Mighty One who has the all-sufficient supply. An udder produces milk, and the milk is the all-sufficient supply, having water, minerals, and many vitamins in it and containing all that we need for our daily living. So El-Shaddai means the all-sufficient Mighty One.

Milk entails health, abundance, plenty. Remember when God told Moses he was taking them to A LAND FLOWING WITH MILK AND HONEY? he meant a land of PLENTY, ABUNDANCE and peace.

Clearly you can see from the full scriptures I posted which you initially cherry picked to try and defend your confusion with, you can see God telling them TO BRING FROM WHAT HE HAS BLESSED THEM WITH. That is what El Shaddai or all sufficient is all about.

He provides for them and then asks that they use it to be of help to others. He is both training them in selfless living and also meeting the need of those who lack among them.

dalaman:


What is this pile of hot thrash?

So God wants to reach him and it is you that is doing the job for God abi?

God wants him to believe in him yet you are the one doing the talking? Do.you truly know how you sound?

If you cannot believe me whom you can feel and touch is it a God you cannot touch or see that you would believe?

God needs to speak with you in a way and manner you would understand. Yet you reject it. Is it when he speaks to you in a language unknown to you that you would understand and believe?

SIR, YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD IN YOU..

I agree

YOU HAVE THE TRUTH

Yea, We have The Doctufos...

THE PASTOR'S(THOUGH NOT ALL) OF THIS GENERATION IS MISLEADING MANY FROM CHRIST JESUS WHO IS THE GRACE AND POWER OF GOD BY THEIR DEVILISH AND IGNORANT SERMONS

They are all misinformed because they preach the wrong Gospel.. The Doctufos remains the only source of truth..
cc: OtemAtum

butterflylion:


Your confusion is on autopilot.

What does ALL SUFFICIENT mean?

In Hebrew this title is El-Shaddai. El means the Strong One, the Mighty One, and Shaddai, implying the meaning of breast, udder, means all-sufficient. El-Shaddai is the Mighty One with an udder, the Mighty One who has the all-sufficient supply. An udder produces milk, and the milk is the all-sufficient supply, having water, minerals, and many vitamins in it and containing all that we need for our daily living. So El-Shaddai means the all-sufficient Mighty One.

Milk entails health, abundance, plenty. Remember when God told Moses he was taking them to A LAND FLOWING WITH MILK AND HONEY? he meant a land of PLENTY, ABUNDANCE and peace.

Clearly you can see from the full scriptures I posted which you initially cherry picked to try and defend your confusion with, you can see God telling them TO BRING FROM WHAT HE HAS BLESSED THEM WITH. That is what El Shaddai or all sufficient is all about.

He provides for them and then asks that they use it to be of help to others. He is both training them in selfless living and also meeting the need of those who lack among them.

You keep making things up. The specific passage I quoted was God asking them to bring things and build a terbancle for him. Not the nonsense that you are trying to claim. You even want as far as sating that the terbancle ow exist in people's minds. Na wah oooo.

Why is an all sufficient God asking for goodies from people to help him build a terbancle? Only a needy God does that.

butterflylion:


If you cannot believe me whom you can feel and touch is it a God you cannot touch or see that you would believe?

God needs to speak with you in a way and manner you would understand. Yet you reject it. Is it when he speaks to you in a language unknown to you that you would understand and believe?

Why should he believe you when you are telling lies? When did any God appear to you personally and told you that he wants people to believe anything about him?

hahn:


Malachi 3:8

"Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. "But you ask, 'How are we robbing you?' "In tithes and offerings.

From the words of the omnibeggar itself

Someone said Christ in coming on September 23. I haven't heard it from the person who said it, but I haven't come across anyone who's wound down their earthly business in preparation for that day. Perhaps the person who informed the rest of us Christ is coming on September 23 is talking through an ass. We'd know on the day.

hahn, your question somewhat does not hit the point quite. A better question is, If God needs money, why doesn't it just make a printing press? He did afterall provide a ram when he needed a blood sacrifice.

I put it to you that despite what Malachi says God told him, he too may be talking through his ass perhaps.

My point is, The Bible is not God!

dalaman:


You keep making things up. The specific passage I quoted was God asking them to bring things and build a terbancle for him. Not the nonsense that you are trying to claim. You even want as far as sating that the terbancle ow exist in people's minds. Na wah oooo.

Why is an all sufficient God asking for goodies from people to help him build a terbancle? Only a needy God does that.

So now you admit that the passage talks about the people bringing for the construction of the tabernacle ba? If this was your intention originally and not that God wanted it himself why then did you cherry pick the scriptures and posted them deceptively? These are the scriptures you said you SPECIFICALLY QUOTED below

Exodus 35:4-5 – “Moses said to all the congregation of the people of Israel, ‘This is the thing that the Lord has commanded. Take from among you a contribution to the Lord. Whoever is of a generous heart, let him bring the Lord’s contribution …’”

Exodus 25:1 – “T[b]he Lord said to Moses, “‘Speak to the people of Israel, that they take for Me a contribution. From every man whose heart moves Him you shall receive the contribution for Me.’[/b]”

Deuteronomy 16:16b, 17 – “They shall not appear before the LORD empty-handed. Every man shall give as he is able, according to the blessing of the LORD your God that He has given you.”

Can you show me where it was stated in your cherry picked quoted scriptures that this was meant for the tabernacle and not for God himself? Have you forgotten your OP? These scriptures you posted were to demonstrate that God wanted it for himself. IT WAS UNTIL I POSTED THE ENTIRE PORTIONS YOU DECEPTIVELY LEFT OUT THAT MADE YOU NOW AGREE IT IS FOR THE TABERNACLE AND NOT GOD.

so now your silly question is WHY SHOULD AN ALL SUFFICIENT GOD EVEN ASK FROM PEOPLE AT ALL.

YOU ARE SUCH A LIAR AND A DECEIVER!

When you lack the ability to admit that I have trashed your OP the only thing you can do is keep repeating that my comment is "trash".

I know it hurts but your OP has been buried!

I even had to take you to the meaning of all sufficient aka EL SHADAI so you would understand or at least "pretend " to understand why God "after" providing for them would then ask that they take from HIS PROVISION and bless people with.

Since you are denying the obvious then your confusion is definitely on autopilot as I already said.