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Re: All Sufficient God? by bloodofthelamb(m): 12:46pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
hahn:YOU ARE RIGHT...CHRIST JESUS IS THE SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, EVER SHINING BUT WE ARE LIKE THE MOON...WE DEPEND ON HIM FOR OUR LIGHT...I PRAY YOU GET IT |
Re: All Sufficient God? by hahn(m): 1:08pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
bloodofthelamb: Use your brain and maybe you will get it |
Re: All Sufficient God? by butterflylion: 1:36pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
dalaman: God asked that they take from what HE HAS PROVIDED AS EL SHADAI OR ALL SUFFICIENT one to build the tabernacle with it so he could dwell with them IN THEIR MIDST. he wanted this so they would have a visual attachment to whom He is especially after their act of building the golden calf in the absence of Moses. Keep on desperately trying to keep your OP afloat. ![]() The thing don sink tipe tipe ![]() You use your own hand tie bags of cement join your leg come jump enter river now you are struggling to stay afloat even as you are already sinking. Your OP has been trashed! Get over it. ![]()
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Re: All Sufficient God? by dalaman: 2:01pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
butterflylion: An all sufficient God will not need anything from anyonebecause he is self sufficient. That he needs them to provide for him something even based on what he has given them clearly shows that he isn't self sufficient but needy. A self sufficient God needs nothing, this one needs sacrifice and likes the smell of burning flesh. |
Re: All Sufficient God? by butterflylion: 2:04pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
dalaman: An all sufficient or EL SHADAI God would FIRST provide for his own and then has the right to tell them what to do with HIS PROVISION. I am sure you remember where I explained what EL SHADAI meant. If you have forgotten it kindly revisit and save yourself this painful embarrasment your deceptive OP is causing you. ![]() |
Re: All Sufficient God? by dalaman: 2:11pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
butterflylion: Mr spinner. An all sufficient God will provide what ever he needs for him self at ALL times. If he needs a terbancle he'll build it for himself. He will not be asking people to give him burnt offerings because he likes the smell of burning flesh. Only a needy God acts that way. |
Re: All Sufficient God? by butterflylion: 2:34pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
dalaman: An all sufficient EL SHADAI God already has everything but only needs to now provide for those who do not have. This was why he had to first make provision for the children of Israel before asking that they build the tabernacle. Suddenly you are no longer saying God wanted the tithes for himself but have now shifted to the tabernacle which truth you first wanted to hide by cherry picking scriptures. Your OP began by deceptively accusing God of demanding tithes for himself and after I ripped that to shreds you now shifted to tabernacle and after I also ripped that to shreds by giving you why this was demanded you are now holding on to nothing else but your monotonous echo of "Mr spinner" and "An all sufficient God would not need bla bla bla" . In order to help your embarrassing situation calmly replace ALL SUFFICIENT with EL SHADAI. I am sure it is English that is disgracing you like this ![]() |
Re: All Sufficient God? by dalaman: 2:48pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
butterflylion: Mr lie lie spinner. A God that demands sacrifice and is said to like the smell of burning flesh is a nedey God. That he needs them to build the tabernacle for him makes him NOT self sufficient but needy. Suddenly you are no longer saying God wanted the tithes for himself but have now shifted to the tabernacle which truth you first wanted to hide by cherry picking scriptures. Where does tithe appear or is mentioned in the OP Mr lie lie? There is a reason why I don't usually bother with your meaningless commentary and long epistles. You did not rip anything to shreds Mr lie lie. You only lied your way through by spinning and giving me you own personal opinion and interpretation that remains yours alone. God according to the story God was in need of a terbancle and asked the peopleto build one for him. He neeeded animal sacrifice and told the people to offer them to him because he likes the smell of burning flesh. Only a needy God does that. In order to help your embarrassing situation calmly replace ALL SUFFICIENT with EL SHADAI. I am sure it is English that is disgracing you like this I am using English and you are speaking Hebrew. Na wah ooo. El Shadai indeed. |
Re: All Sufficient God? by JackBizzle: 2:51pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
"Butterflylion" is a spelling error. It was actually meant to be ButterflyLying. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: All Sufficient God? by dalaman: 2:52pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
Re: All Sufficient God? by butterflylion: 3:03pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
[ =dalaman post=60620280]. Stick to your OP. The thread is about God asking the children of Israel to bring to him offerings and tithes and you later shifted to contributions which I had to open up to you and everyone that it was meant for the tabernacle. Your can lie for Linus. Where does tithe appear or is mentioned in the OP Mr lie lie? There is a reason why I don't usually bother with your meaningless commentary and long epistles. You did not rip anything to shreds Mr lie lie. You only lied your way through by spinning and giving me you own personal opinion and interpretation that remains yours alone. Do you see why I say you are a deceptive lying Dala the Gala? You posted the OP and I asked you for scriptural evidence to your claim and you immediately posted from Malachi 3: 8. This was your quote dalaman: 11:25am On Sep 18 Was that not your own comment? Now you are lying and denying that you mentioned tithes in the OP ![]() Was this Malachi 3: 8 not the basis for your OP? When I asked for the basis for your OP you posted Malachi 3: 8 Abi no be so Mr liar Dala the Gala. I want to know how an all sufficient God will need people to give him anything in the first place Twist it any way you please. The fact is that God was not in need of a tabernacle. The people were in need of a tangible presence of God which was evident in their construction of the golden calf so God did just that by giving them something they could SEE (the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night) and a place where the high priest could go into and commune with God rather than climbing up a mountain and then exposing them to further doubt and another strange desire which was what happened when Moses left then and went up Sinai. I am.using English and you are speaking Hebrew. Na wah ooo. El Shadai indeed. So you do not know that the expression ALL SUFFICIENT ONE mentioned in Genesis 17: 1 was simply EL SHADAI? ![]() no wonder your mumuism and confusion has been on autopilot all this while ![]() |
Re: All Sufficient God? by butterflylion: 3:07pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
JackBizzle: Mega Jumbo Dumbo I expected nothing less from you ![]() Empty heads of course contribute nothing.
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Re: All Sufficient God? by dalaman: 3:24pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
butterflylion: The OP is conscise, clear and straight to the point. Why will an all sufficient God request for things from people and allow people use his name to beg? I repeat an all sufficient God will not request for anything from anyone because he is self sufficient. If he needs a terbancle he'll provide one for himself. That he depends on people and ask themto build one for him shows he isn't self sufficient but needy. [/quote]Do you see why I say you are a deceptive lying Dala the Gala? You posted the OP and I asked you for scriptural evidence to your claim and you immediately posted from Malachi 3: 8. This was your quote] Stop being dishonest. Where does the word tithe appear in the OP Mr lie lie. The OP didn't talk about tithe but made a general comment. I gave tithe just as an example. I could have used animal sacrifice instead. The tithe example was just one of out the many. Was that not your own comment? Now you are lying and denying that you mentioned tithes in the OP Where does the word tithe appear in the OP Mr lie lie? Tithe wasn't the only basis for the OP. The request for sacrifice is also.part of it. The request to build a terbancle, the request to be worshipped and praised etc are all part of it. Only a needyGod requirs and demands for such things. You only chose to dwell on tithe and run your meaningless commentary on it. [[b]Twist it any way you please. The fact is that God was not in need of a tabernacle. [/b]The people were in need of a tangible presence of God which was evident in their construction of the golden calf so God did just that by giving them something they could SEE (the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night) and a place where the high priest could go into and commune with God rather than climbing up a mountain and then exposing them to further doubt and another strange desire which was what happened when Moses left then and went up Sinai. Your lie lie spin says that God is not in need of a terbancle , but according to the bible God needed one and told the people to offer things and build it for him. I'll go with what was written in the bible and not your shameless lie lie spin. So you do not know that the expression ALL SUFFICIENT ONE mentioned in Genesis 17: 1 was simply EL SHADAI? I have already given you the English meaning of self sufficient. You can keep making things up as usual Mr lie lie spinner. 2 Likes |
Re: All Sufficient God? by butterflylion: 4:22pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
dalaman: This was your rather pathetic OP below dalaman: 7:27pm On Sep 17 Then based on a response to your OP by Goodmuyis you said the below dalaman: Note your words in red and based on this i then asked you my questions below Can you back up your claims with evidence scripturally? You then replied by quoting the below dalaman: 11:25am On Sep 18 Note that your OP mentioned that money was being solicited ON BEHALF OF GOD. ![]() Any simpleton already knows you were refering to tithes from malachi but i chose to deliberately ask you for this proof and you confirmed it by posting malachi 3: 8 in support of your OP. Every comment you made up till when i asked for scriptural proof were comments based on malachi and it was after i trashed that , you then moved deceptively to exodus and Deuteronomy which was you now talking about God asking for contributions for himself which i also trashed by showing you that it was meant for the people and the tabernacle. ![]() Liar liar dala the gala you can lie for linus ![]() By the way you said you gave me the English meaning of all sufficient so let me ask you, were the scriptures translated from English to English? Since you say i am talking about Hebrew so were the scriptures translated from English to English? ![]() |
Re: All Sufficient God? by frank317: 4:23pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
butterflylion:You believe in God by faith and you want me to take you serious... even your God is obviously not serious. His words exists where? I have only been hearing it through humans? have u ever preached to anyone? yes ya right, going by that I should also be a Muslim... since you know there are over 2billion Muslims worldwide, why are u also not a Muslim? 3 Likes |
Re: All Sufficient God? by butterflylion: 4:26pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
frank317: Is anyone stopping you from becoming a Muslim since you feel we are talking about Islam and not Christianity ![]() ![]() Based on your comment in bold, remind me again that you are not getting married to a Christian lady soon (whose God is obviously not serious) ![]() |
Re: All Sufficient God? by bloodofthelamb(m): 4:33pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
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Re: All Sufficient God? by bloodofthelamb(m): 4:50pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
hahn:I HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST 1 Like |
Re: All Sufficient God? by frank317: 4:57pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
butterflylion:and he goes taking off point...i am not surprised the point is lost on you. well, just tryng to let you know that pointing me to billions of Christians who believe in what their fellow men talk about a supposedly existent God was baseless.
Yes, her God is not serious? I have reminded you... is it itching u to insult my person? I see no reason for u to mention my lady here? |
Re: All Sufficient God? by butterflylion: 5:02pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
frank317: You are the one talking off point as this entire thread is lost on you. I see no reason for you to refer me to Islam when this thread has nothing to do with that. Stop derailing! When you were childishly telling the entire Nairaland your family history and family tree and your wedding date without anybody soliciting such information from you you no know Abi? |
Re: All Sufficient God? by dalaman: 5:07pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
butterflylion: Mr lie lie spinner. You didn't see where I clearly said pastors ask for money on God's behalf? The statement is very clerk but as usual with your lie lie you went on twisting it.
You did no such thing. You didn't trash anything. You only gave me your lie lie opinion and interpretation. I didn't dwell on your opinion because it isn't important to me. There are many threads here where christians that are pro tithe and anti tithe argue endlessly with each side throwing biblical verses at each other and stating that they are right while the others are wrong. A simple search will help you. You ONLY gave your opinion on tithe and that's all, I didn't address it because I don't waste time on people's interpretation of scripture. As for the terbancle the bible said that it is for God. No where did it say it belongs to the people Mr lie lie. Build a sanctuary for me is what as written. The OP was a general statement about a needy God. The one that tells people to sacrifice things unto him. He needs sacrifice and tells people to give him animal sacrifice because he loves the smell of burning flesh . Only a needy God does that. Liar liar dala the gala you can lie for linus Ogbeni I have already given you the English meaning of self sufficient. The bible describes a needy God and not a self sufficient one based on that definition. |
Re: All Sufficient God? by frank317: 6:01pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
butterflylion:Abegi... 2billion people following Christianity does not mean I should see it as authentic afterall u have rejected other Religions despite them having 2billion followers. Your God cannot need humans to talk to people about him and not expect people like me to be skeptical about his existence
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Re: All Sufficient God? by butterflylion: 6:08pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
frank317: Oga stop talking to me about Islam on a thread that talks about God and the tabernacle! If you do not know what derailing or goalpost shifting means please look it up. |
Re: All Sufficient God? by frank317: 6:35pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
butterflylion: Have fun proving ur God needs nothing bro... When infact he has, from your holy book to his pastor messengers, turned himself to a begger... Begging for worship, Begging for attention Begging for money Begging for his word to be spread Begging for love Begging for respect Begging for praise Begging for blood Begging for help to build his tabanacle Unfortunately, he won't get any from me 4 Likes |
Re: All Sufficient God? by butterflylion: 6:39pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
frank317: Does God exist? Have you heard him begging before? ![]() |
Re: All Sufficient God? by Niflheim(m): 7:43pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
@Dalaman In Genesis 8:20-22, he required a burnt offering of every clean beast(like a Bulgarain Butcher in a Sudanese suya spot)!!! He even asked an American pastor to give raise him a certain amount of cash or the pastor will die(Madagascan Mafia)? |
Re: All Sufficient God? by hahn(m): 8:36pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
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Re: All Sufficient God? by dalaman: 9:08pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
Niflheim: No be small thing. 1 Like |
Re: All Sufficient God? by bloodofthelamb(m): 10:00pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
hahn:GOD IS MAKING PEACE WITH YOU THROUGH HIS SON JESUS...QUIT BEING A "PRODIGAL SON". YOUR BELOVE FATHER IN HEAVEN IS WAITING FOR YOUR RETURN WITH AN OPEN ARMS...PEACE |
Re: All Sufficient God? by frank317: 6:43am On Sep 20, 2017 |
butterflylion: You are not that smart are you? Your God does not exist to me... The only reason why we are having this conversation is because you think he does... What a silly question...smh |
Re: All Sufficient God? by butterflylion: 6:55am On Sep 20, 2017 |
frank317: You are not smart are you? Since you believe God does not exist "to you" why initiate a talk about a non existent God "to you " with one who says God exists? Are you having doubts about his non existence? ![]() It should be me who says God exists that should be the initiator of talking about him with you. Why do you wish to talk about what does not exist? Are you being delusional? ![]() Yes in fact you are being terribly delusional ![]() For something not to exist it means IT WAS NEVER EVER THERE AND CAN NEVER EVER BE THERE. So why are you so bothered about something that was never ever there to begin with and can never ever be there? Do you need a psychiatrist? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: All Sufficient God? by superhumanist(m): 8:37am On Sep 20, 2017 |
butterflylion: Hello there. I am truly perplexed whenever I come across this particular argument that "if god doesn't exist, why do atheists talk about him". It takes some kind of ignorance (purposeful or otherwise) to make such an argument. Any student of philosophy or debate knows that we use concepts (imaginary concepts, in this case) to point out logic in an argument. For instance, when criticising a vampire movie, one can state such; "IF VAMPIRES ARE AFFECTED BY THE SUN DUE TO ITS RAYS, THEN THE VAMPIRES SHOULD ALSO BE AFFECTED BY HIGH POWERED ULTRA-VIOLET LIGHTS AS WELL" Now, this does not mean that the movie critic believes in vampires. Just as the atheist or deist who does not believe in your god can make arguments with him (your god) without believing in him(your god). |
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