TrueHeart365:


Not every conventional conflict has to be about invasion.

What he pointed out is a very clear possibility if there was to be a crisis between the two countries(anything is possible).

In this situation they can just cause enough damage with 2-3 rounds of air raids to cripple our infrastructure etc. That can make a devastating impact to delay a retaliation.

This talk of it can never happen is just nonsense.

TrueHeart365:


Egypt aside, the French in our backyard is a worry we are not doing something about.

Henry240:

Let me first begin by saying most respondents here mostly do not take each individual country's threat assessment before some of these comparisons take place.

A war between Nigerian and Egypt will never happen.

The primary threats Nigeria has faced from 1960 - to date have always been internal. Only Tchad and Cameroun have waged war against Nigeria and in both cases, militarily, it didn't end well for both countries.

Politicians declare war, not the military. So in a hypothetical situation between armed conflict between Nigeria and Egypt, Nigeria would have had the time to re-shape defence thinking to confront the Egyptian threat. We are talking between 5 - 10 years of political and diplomatic spat before it boils over to war.

On paper Egypt will completely decimate Nigeria. The numbers are there to see, but war is not won on paper. The Soviets learnt this when they attacked Finland.

Algerian1:


yes , its impossible a war between nigeria and egypt , too far in geopolitics . For exemple egyptian air force have ready attack strategy for aerial strikes on ethiopia ( in case of war about the Nile river ) .

Just For Nigeria a Big country in africa , even if there is no threat at the moment, nigeria must have a respectable air defense ! 5 years is not enough to integrate a good defensive doctrine and master the air defense . and big powers ( France , USA , NATO, in case of revolution, or what they call a moderate insurgency , they will say quickly Nigerian army kills citizens! and strike you the day after easily with zero loses for them , and will put a government under their control we give them more access to your ressources , but if you have a good air defense they will think about the military losses they may suffer , weigh the pros and cons and think twice before interferring . you need a kind of deterrence

nigeria sould invest un short , medium range air defense in small number of units to get a first base in the fields and after if needed it can invest in large systems and a big network

andrewza:



If France goes after you NATO goes after you. Good luck

Algerian1:


yes , its impossible a war between nigeria and egypt , too far in geopolitics . For exemple egyptian air force have ready attack strategy for aerial strikes on ethiopia ( in case of war about the Nile river ) .

Just For Nigeria a Big country in africa , even if there is no threat at the moment, nigeria must have a respectable air defense ! 5 years is not enough to integrate a good defensive doctrine and master the air defense . and big powers ( France , USA , NATO, in case of revolution, or what they call a moderate insurgency , they will say quickly Nigerian army kills citizens! and strike you the day after easily with zero loses for them , and will put a government under their control and get more access to your ressources , WIN- WIN easily for them , but if you have a good air defense they will think about the military losses they may suffer , weigh the pros and cons and think twice before interferring . you need a kind of deterrence

nigeria sould invest un short , medium range air defense in small number of units to get a first base in the fields and after if needed it can invest in large systems and a big network

TrueHeart365:


Egypt aside, the French in our backyard is a worry we are not doing something about.

andrewza:



If France goes after you NATO goes after you. Good luck

tdayof:


The Nigerian military doctrine seems to be interception.. That's why they're more interested in buying aircrafts. For the past how many years, has the airforce talked about purchasing an effective air defence system?.

When we're talking about aircrafts, I don't mean some 3 units jf17. Most of our air bases have no aircrafts stationed in them. One thing I'll keep saying is after this jf17, we still need another type of fighter to combine force and that's why I'll always go for a flanker or J-10 because I don't know who will be talking about a Mig 29 to complement a jf17.


Chinese SAMS are equally not cheap but we can do with at least 3 units for now.

The attitude of purchasing in small units is getting annoying.

The Angolan Air Force has taken delivery of its first two Su-30K fighters, and will receive another ten by early 2018.

This is according to Aleksandr Vorobei, the deputy CEO of the 558 Aviation Repair Plant in Belarus, who told Sputnik news on 19 September that “I think that the deliveries will be completed by early next year.”

Odunayaw:
If the doctrine is interception then they had better start reviewing the radars we have in service

Chinese SAMs are affordable a full Sky dragon battery with 4launchers is about 120-150m(educated guess)

frumentius:

The infuriating part is that they have loads such MiGs that they could have used for display. Hell, we could have just restored some of them to museum display status.

andrewza:


Why does Nigeria need a modern air defence system. You just mentioned all the countries you would over fly In this attack and pointed out they don't have much air force.

TrueHeart365:


With a well armed Nigerian military, NATO will think critically before considering it.

jln115:

And then after thinking about it will make the excuse that Nigeria is manufacturing WMD and decimate you......then take your oil of course!!

Xbee007:

They will be like "Nigerians need more lecture on democracy, cos their democracy ain't strong enough. There oil, of course, will be temporarily managed by more matured democracies till the spirit of democracy return back to Nigeria."

Xbee007:

They will be like "Nigerians need more lecture on democracy, cos their democracy ain't strong enough. There oil, of course, will be temporarily managed by more matured democracies till the spirit of democracy return back to Nigeria."

TrueHeart365:


With a well armed Nigerian military, NATO will think critically before considering it.

Odunayaw:
France playing aggressive doesn't invoke the NATO charter

bidexiii:





Don't let us start another war on nairaland....Biko

jln115:

We could ask the same question, actually we go over board as we have Subs.....I mean or neighbours barley have Navies!!

andrewza:



A Sam system won't stop France, it a fixed sight that they will locate and destroy. One submarine can scare off any threat. All so sure S are great at covert operations.

Henry240:
Nigerian Air Force EC-135 LUH and an ELINT compliant ATR-42 Survelliance plane

jln115:

I agree 100% with what your saying! but im trying to use the same context as when you said Nigeria doesn't need a proper SAM system.....yes they have no threats now but in the future you never know, hence why we have subs and frigates even though we literally have no naval threat!!

andrewza:


Nigeria would be better off expanding there radar coverage and buying more mobile AA and aircraft.

South Africa issue is it does not have a war to fight, so it planing for every thing Nigeria has threats to build around. After stabilizing sure they can look at a Sam system but Sam systems are luxuries. Any case Angola GBAD systems did not stop SAAF booming them.

rka2:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=Lnk9qjB6g9U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnk9qjB6g9U

jln115:



Absolutely no way Egypt would come remotely close to being able to invade(vise versa) SA even with the current state of the SANDF, they simply don't have enough force projection to even get near us let alone attack us!! Even if they did manage to get to Angola, their majority tracked base army simply wont have the manoeuvrability required for bush warfare.....Angola/Cuba had air superiority over us almost since the start of the border war.....in terms of man power and equipment not only were they as advanced as us but they also outnumbered us 10-1......yet they failed to win a single battle....why's that?

andrewza:


Nigeria would be better off expanding there radar coverage and buying more mobile AA and aircraft.

South Africa issue is it does not have a war to fight, so it planing for every thing Nigeria has threats to build around. After stabilizing sure they can look at a Sam system but Sam systems are luxuries. Any case Angola GBAD systems did not stop SAAF booming them.

tdayof:


Man, interception won't help us. SAMS keeps pilots busy. And I guess for you to be able to pull some maneuver against a missile, you'll need to drop your tanks. Once you drop those fuel tanks and you're still trying to maneuver in our airspace with additional missiles fired at you, you'll become short of range which means if your current fuel can't take you out, you'll have to agree to being forced to land.



2) if interception is also the doctrine with people possessing EW skills now. Our radars can easily be blinded till our most important airspace gets hit from an almighty km away.


NAF needs to work fast on SAMS. Just look at Botswana.