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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:49am On Sep 21, 2017 |
horlams:Nice! |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 4:22am On Sep 21, 2017 |
jln115: Mmmm 2.0 I think some one needs to look up there history. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 4:32am On Sep 21, 2017 |
Algerian1: GDF 06 and 07 35mm guns, 23mm bosvark and star streak a mix of static or vic based triple launchers and manpads. South Africa's real air defence is from it radar covarge. It can see while in to it neibours giving plenty of early warning for the gripens 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 5:15am On Sep 21, 2017 |
Covert1:do u talk and think from your .... where those countries also responsible for the President one sided tribalistic appointment? where their also responsible for d killing of unarmed farmer n civilians by the Fulani's whom the President is their grand patron? where their also d one who made issue that wicked statement of 97% 5% . Biafra agitators have always been by the corner but buhari's tribalism drove somany sympathizer to them. 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by barineh(m): 6:13am On Sep 21, 2017 |
andrewza: In the two World War Germany defeated France it was until Britain and the rest became involved that Germany lost. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:26am On Sep 21, 2017 |
ActivateKruger:I took note, but when im talking armour I mean firepower as in guns!! BAE Iklwa still only has a 30mm so not really Armour by definition, only the Ratel 90 is close to what you could consider as light armour. Maybe someone like andrewza or frumentius might want to join our debate........I think they might have a bit more to add with regards to our current doctrine, than me and you....well certainly me anyway!! andrewza/frumtius the question is: In terms of our current doctrine, have we somewhat moved away from our manoeuvre/mobility warfare doctrine like we had in the border war era, to a more attrition type warfare doctrine? and what in your opinion is the way to move forward? Is manoeuvre warfare still the order for a day in Africa or is has the African theatre moved more to a attrition type warfare? Feel free to add to the question Mr Kruger! |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:30am On Sep 21, 2017 |
andrewza:Ok iwasn't taking the Napoleon era in to account |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:34am On Sep 21, 2017 |
giles14:Go n sleep jorr In fact there is possibility of actions to be taken against finance origin of IPOB funds . which is in France |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:50am On Sep 21, 2017 |
andrewza:I read somewhere that all our civilian Radars as well as the Radars of the South African Weather service are also linked to LinkZA.......and with over a 100 proper airports in SA , I would say we have pretty extensive radar coverage. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:51am On Sep 21, 2017 |
barineh:He wasn't talking about those wars!! |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:52am On Sep 21, 2017 |
Jordan appears to have some surplus AH-1s. Recall that some NAF personnel lately went off to Jordan |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 6:57am On Sep 21, 2017 |
200 spartan APC's and typoon MRAP's to be bought from jordan ,to me its still appalling. let alone the issue of them being donation(which i doubt),when the same jordan had 25 of 50 of it paramount group mbombe APC's built by KADDB (King Abdullah Design and Development Bureau) in jordan. when will africa industrialise when we just buy from others,i doubt that there are african countries that can't assemble streit group APC's or MRAP's. its not an issue of energy,logistics,skilled manpower e.t.c what most african countries lack is the will |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 7:03am On Sep 21, 2017 |
IbnSultaan:i can assure you even if they give AH-1's ,it will be those they acquired back in the 80's .which i doubt their airworthiness,it will be just be ploy to have you buy weapon's and vehicles e.t.c more from their military industries |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 7:34am On Sep 21, 2017 |
IbnSultaan:AH -1 transferred to Nigeria without US approval? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 7:45am On Sep 21, 2017 |
jln115: Even before that France was winning Germany never beat France in ww1 |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 7:54am On Sep 21, 2017 |
jln115: South African milltary do training according to defence review is to use manvour elements of the mechnized force to postion and engage the enemy from long range. So our doctrine is very much not attrision. More Armor is due to improvements in the weapons of the enemy and that it can be done with out compromising mobility. Added to the top motorized battalions are to secure lines of Comuncastion and defend vital points freeing up mechnized and Armored battalions to attack. Light and specialized infantry will operate behind enemy lines But if you look in to the training and war games you can see mobility is still how we will fight our wars. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:24am On Sep 21, 2017 |
andrewza:So what is our long term strategy to increase our Armour capability(As in our armoured corps), The new Badger fitted with Ingwe will obviously be added to our Armoured formation, and obviously there once was a requirement for an Olifant replacement.....but only a 100 or so units. As you said mobility is still the way we will fight in the future, those this mean that we will be looking more in to lighter, faster wheeled vehicles in the future if we decide expand our armoured capability......a newer Rooikat 105mm or modern Eland replacement comes to mind!!, or will we focus more on replacing our heavy less mobile armour like the Olifant? maybe building up a decent Tank fleet!! @Activatekruger anything you'll like to add?? also whats your take on how we should expand our armoured capability, maybe a Rooikat with a 120mm would be a great mix of firepower and mobility? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:02am On Sep 21, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 9:51am On Sep 21, 2017 |
Africans are lit. What do you do when you find a stolen and ditched Rolls Royce in front of your house? Just show off to the world 3 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 10:04am On Sep 21, 2017 |
61mech: Dayumnnn....its a pity people here are too hung up on their peculiar little obsessions (Ara,Tavor etc etc)to realise what an inestimable war fighting advantage this capability is regardless of Mech or Mot warfare. Nothing beats having that organic fire capacity on call. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 10:16am On Sep 21, 2017 |
GreenandGold: WTF? This guy is a legend |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 10:17am On Sep 21, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nicheey(m): 10:22am On Sep 21, 2017 |
overhypedsteve: okay ,to begin with I'm not even near "patriotic" second I never said we had the best air defence system Nigeria is over 923,768 km² there's no way France could raid our airspace completely like the person i quoted stated ,without having their jet shot down France has over 2billion investment in Nigeria ,compare to any francophones nations around ,why would they want to risk that over mere cameroon? if France is stupid enough to back France ,then Nigeria will just slip to Russia for backing ,after all most of our military hardwares comes from Russia ,and also special forces finally Nigeria is in peace time (I mean no external aggression with her neighbors) before the insurgency and after you'll see Nigeria military has acquired a way too many hardwares ,strict trainings and others ,that's just how it is ,why hunt when there's no animals to he hunted?? where was France when general buhari pursue tchadians deep into their capital?? 1983 or when Nigerian battalion March into Yaoundé during abacha's regime?? Nigeria military possessions are enough for now ,if the needs arises I'm sure you'll see Nigeria acquiring hard wares like the days of Nigeria -Cameroon's dispute over bakassi My opinion though 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by TrueHeart365(m): 10:27am On Sep 21, 2017 |
IbnSultaan: You are a Fulani so I don't expect any fair judgment from you. What the guy said is 100%. And as long as ur grand patron continues with his tribalism the problem will continue to remain. IPOB has it's membership worldwide and funding can come from any where (internal and foreign) as long as it's members stay true to it's cause. Buhari needs to do the right thing and apologize to Nigerians for running the most tribalistic, divisive and ineffective government in the history of this country. Tackle the grievances before talking about funding. What a dull government 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:34am On Sep 21, 2017 |
[/quote][s][/s][quote author=TrueHeart365 post=60680392] Just imagine the crap you wrote That's the problem you guys have a micro view of northeners. Am not Fulani for the record 1 Share
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 10:57am On Sep 21, 2017 |
Nicheey: Size of the country does not matter and they don't need to capture Nigeria. Did NATO occupy Libya? Cameroon hyperthytical what if but it does show how France has influence in Africa and many friends. The French Air force could easily maintain air superiority over Nigeria for the duration of what ever they doing. Of course it will not be for ever. The best Air defence Nigeria poses is the Roland a French system they built and they know all it limitations. As was stated wars of occupation are rare in Africa but let's say there is a border dispute between Cameroon and Nigeria. If France backs Cameroon Nigeria looses. Russia won't help you. They don't get any thing from Nigeria in fact Nigeria is a larger oil supplier so if you are weakened and in turmoil oil prices goes up and Russia benefits. But if you African do the look to Russia for aid at best China but even then they need the west more than Africa. Any body in Nigeria that thinks they can win a full blown war against France is crazy. The French army is while trained, experienced in African war fare and battle tested. Of all the NATO members there is no better force for fighting in Africa. They have access to plenty of local bases, troops in country, allies and the Money to best any nation in the Francephobe region. 9 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by 61mech: 11:50am On Sep 21, 2017 |
Our doctrine is/was also heavily influenced by logistics. The heavier your get, the more trucks you need in your echelon and the more your rely on engineering ,mechanics etc. Our logistics were heavily stressed in 88/89. The infrastructure in Africa also comes into play. Bridges and roads can only take so much weight. Same issue with up gunning Rooikat to 105/120mm. You have less rounds on board and thus become more reliant on your log. tail catching up. Similar to having a smaller fuel tank. jln115: 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:34pm On Sep 21, 2017 |
modern warfare is not always about boots on the ground approach to defeat a country all u need to do is 1.ensure air superiority indirectly limited ground superiority 2.ensure naval superiority 3.take out industrial centers like oil installations , factories , shipyards , electrical grids etc these will ensure that ground , air and naval routes r off limits ie complete economic blockade then the target countries economy will come to a grinding halt in a few weeks with crisis in supply of essential goods plus no replenishment the target country will be forced to come to terms and negotiate a way out. so warfare is not one dimensional it is multi dimensional those who clamor for war in todays age do not understand the severe penalty for it , the after effects will send a country to medieval ages at the minimum if not dark ages. around 10-20 or more conventional HPM E-bombs will bring any mid sized country to its knees with large scale damages both industrial , financial and household running into hundreds of billions without firing a single bullet. all P5 countries have them dont fall for jingoism 6 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 12:56pm On Sep 21, 2017 |
andrewza: Nonsense. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 12:56pm On Sep 21, 2017 |
nemesis4u: Meaningless. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by EMW01: 1:00pm On Sep 21, 2017 |
Porn magazines, drugs and alcohol discovered in Alshabab camp in Boni forest 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 1:01pm On Sep 21, 2017 |
horlams: Impressive! Our Built Up Capacity Makes Jealous. Watching This Is Sweet To The Soul. And They Are Not Even SBS. Well Done Nigeria. |
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