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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:07pm On Sep 21, 2017
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 7:09pm On Sep 21, 2017
nemesis4u:



You're learning how to deal with posers and 'tards-finally! Congratufuckinglations!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by upko1: 7:12pm On Sep 21, 2017
nemesis4u:


Excellent Job

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:16pm On Sep 21, 2017
kikuyu1:


Congratufuckinglations!

this word deserves a place in oxford dictionary grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:27pm On Sep 21, 2017
Deway7575:
I do hope its the Ratels, excellent platform for counterinsurgency operations. However, it kills the hope of a major acquisition of the indigenous Proforce MRAP.

Ratel are IFVs not an APC/MRAPs so don't think it will kill any hopes that you will acquire Proforce's new MRAP since they don't entirely fulfil the same role.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:39pm On Sep 21, 2017
Deway7575:
I do hope its the Ratels, excellent platform for counterinsurgency operations. However, it kills the hope of a major acquisition of the indigenous Proforce MRAP.

This comment just got my head rolling. I believe we are all entitled to our opinions but come on!

Could you please expand on the part in bold, how did you come by this conclusion?

Secondly, where are these donated 200 armoured vehicles some of you lot keep talking about?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 9:16pm On Sep 21, 2017
Always love it when the private security guys do these poses smiley

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 9:19pm On Sep 21, 2017
Just a few hours old. Responding (armed) to a township cornershop attempted robbery.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:26pm On Sep 21, 2017
Ivorian special forces

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 9:30pm On Sep 21, 2017
jakeporeshenko:
Ivorian special forces

That's dope

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 10:17pm On Sep 21, 2017
GreenandGold:
Just a few hours old. Responding (armed) to a township cornershop attempted robbery.

How do these guys get paid? Government pay them for policing the state or it's a free stuff?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 10:21pm On Sep 21, 2017
Henry240:

This comment just got my head rolling. I believe we are all entitled to our opinions but come on!

Could you please expand on the part in bold, how did you come by this conclusion?

Secondly, where are these donated 200 armoured vehicles some of you lot keep talking about?


Henry240 after reading the presidential stuff again, I observed the word "about" 200 armored fighting vehicles. We however purchased 177 and this is making everything look somehow.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 10:32pm On Sep 21, 2017
jakeporeshenko:
Ivorian special forces
Ah!! That's how you storm the prom
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:38pm On Sep 21, 2017
tdayof:

Henry240 after reading the presidential stuff again, I observed the word "about" 200 armored fighting vehicles. We however purchased 177 and this is making everything look somehow.



We are looking at incompetent aides who made an avoidable error, if only they could put their ears down and listen properly.

The only vehicles gotten from Jordan are Streit vehicles, Jordan does not have the authority to donate a company's private equipment.

Jordan is also a poor country that depends on aids from the US, how are they magically going to donate 200 Armoured vehicles to one of the world's top oil producers.

It just doesn't make any sense.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:40pm On Sep 21, 2017
jakeporeshenko:
Ivorian special forces
Shouldn't the other guy be covering the team's six?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by barineh(m): 10:58pm On Sep 21, 2017
Nigerian Navy ships �

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 11:23pm On Sep 21, 2017
tdayof:


How do these guys get paid? Government pay them for policing the state or it's a free stuff?

They offer a private security service to paying clients. The client will have an alarm system fitted in his house or business. In an emergency (if the alarm has been triggered or you pressed a panic button) they'll respond with arms and they'll shoot if shot at and they have a right to arrest a criminal or suspect then hand them over to police for DNA and fingerprint profiling.


There's also app based security services. For a fixed monthly amount you'll have an app that affords you emergency response by the nearest available participating security company or ambulance in any South African town. There's as well portable panic buttons you can wear or put in your vehicle, in a single touch an armed response will come to your current location.



Just to add, they do also act as neighbourhood watch.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 1:38am On Sep 22, 2017
andrewza:



In my hyperthetcal France is supporting Cameroon in a border dispute along with a possible breakaway region in Nigeria. In short there cause beli or justification is Nigerian forces attacked Cameroon and wide spread war crimes. Whether it true or not does not matter. I mean people make up war crimes and ignore real war crimes all the time.


France goal is simply bring the oil fields in to sphere of Influnce of this break away and or Cameroon. Most of the support frome France will be logical, air, naval and limited ground support. Nigeria navy stands no chance and if the NAF get to close to the war zone will die. End result Nigerian Navy and Air force never leave there bases France never attacks the bases. Naval and air Domanice is achieved with maybe one or Two air raids to drive home the point. Possibly putting a guided bomb on to a Nigerian war ship or even just bombing your dry dock and hitting your air base with bombs.


End result Nigeria army fights with no air support, after a few losses concedes defeat. France uses there carrier and Cameroon air bases. Chad will all so be on alert to if need be support. Chad being a French attack dog.



A highly unlikely war but this is the worst case seneinoro but if you plan to fight this then you can beat any thing g lesser.

I must confess I'm at a loss why I should respond to this. But for the sake u gave ur hypothesis I would leave you a few. U must forgive me though I laughed my sides out. I anticipated better. Where are the historical examples and facts you alluded to?

First we establish this is hypothetical. In the present world order Nigeria and France won't fight a direct war. Not gonna happen. Non-state actors may be a tool as always for political capital.

In foreign relations states adopt the use of force where they have a chance of military success. Where there is no military option they use instruments of the international order via the UNSC or such organizations to bring pressure to bear.

Speaking of historical examples & facts to warrant DiREct French intervention in a hypothetical war with Nigeria:

1. Nigeria has had conflicts with Cameroon in the past in which the Nigerian Army occupied it's territory for years and the Nigerian Navy policed it's contiguous waters. France did nothing about it but to use other foreign policy tools of pressure: The ICJ at The Hague. Nigerian military signals intelligence picked up presence of French military advisers in various engagements with Cameroon but that was the farthest the French came.

2. Nigerian military forces in the past have advanced as far as N'jdamena the capital of Chad. France did nothing about it. In fact reports had it then Gen. Muhammadu Buhari and his armored brigade stayed on after orders from Lagos to withdraw. He did eventually but at his own time of choosing.

3. Nigeria has had a breakaway republic called Biafra in the 60's. France gave material and political backing to Biafra yet Biafra collapsed. Nigeria was weaker then than it is now. France made no direct incursion except aid with mercenaries. Nigeria won that war.

4. There exist today many centers of conflict within Nigeria's borders exploited by unseen powerful foreign hands. Some of these conflicts are full blown wars that many countries around the world won't survive yet Nigeria is still standing thanks to our military which not only holds the fort but is deployed abroad. I think you should be unbiased and give credit where it's due.

Following the foregoing it is absurd to contemplate a direct French military intervention. If it could it would have on a pretext backed by NATO (case in point Libya). The US could only apply sanctions under Abacha. In fact the US fled Somalia. It has still not defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan the graveyard of empires. A former French president said of Nigeria "the Nigerian military is a large, well trained and highly capable force" and no one should underestimate them. Nigeria is not Libya. Syria has proven what a cohesive professional military high command can accomplish in the face of daunting challenges—it's holding together down to its NCOs and Syria's strategic global alliances is why Assad is still in power.

The Nigerian military has never lost a war. It is not a sitting duck. Based on current assets, Nigeria has TRACON which is fully integrated with it's Air defense command and Space Agency. It's electronic eyes and ears see well into other countries further afield. The Chinese don't want THAAD because of it's radar reach which essentially makes you a sitting duck for targeting. A well integrated air defense helps to track and shoot down aircraft even with less advanced SAMs. Thats the scenario playing out in east Ukraine against Russian backed rebels. The Roland's may not be S-400s but they are deadly to trespass in a well integrated air defense system. The French know better. The size of our armed forces, capacity and relative capability makes it an un-winnable war for France with negative public opinion back home and the attendant refugee question effectively ending it before it began. The Nigerian Army will bring the war to them in Cameroon or Chad and potentially farther. We have done it before. We will do it again if need be and France will do nothing.

Having said that Nigeria will not win a direct war against France but neither will France. The oil in Nigeria has many vested interests local and foreign that is beyond France alone. In addition Nigeria is arming and should appropriately for future wars that are unpredictable. The French have been known to be spoilers who start wars and run away for others to do the heavy lifting.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 1:46am On Sep 22, 2017
Lads the chats are surpassing the pictures.Adjust thyself

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 3:51am On Sep 22, 2017
Egyptian Air Force CASA C-295 tactical airlift aircraft at Ghardia Airport

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 3:54am On Sep 22, 2017
Exclusive picture of the new Egyptian air force kamov K-52 with desert camouflage with an airborne AH-64 Apache in one of air bases in Egypt

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 5:46am On Sep 22, 2017
Covert1:


I must confess I'm at a loss why I should respond to this. But for the sake u gave ur hypothesis I would leave you a few. U must forgive me though I laughed my sides out. I anticipated better. Where are the historical examples and facts you alluded to?

First we establish this is hypothetical. In the present world order Nigeria and France won't fight a direct war. Not gonna happen. Non-state actors may be a tool as always for political capital.

In foreign relations states adopt the use of force where they have a chance of military success. Where there is no military option they use instruments of the international order via the UNSC or such organizations to bring pressure to bear.

Speaking of historical examples & facts to warrant DiREct French intervention in a hypothetical war with Nigeria:

1. Nigeria has had conflicts with Cameroon in the past in which the Nigerian Army occupied it's territory for years and the Nigerian Navy policed it's contiguous waters. France did nothing about it but to use other foreign policy tools of pressure: The ICJ at The Hague. Nigerian military signals intelligence picked up presence of French military advisers in various engagements with Cameroon but that was the farthest the French came.

2. Nigerian military forces in the past have advanced as far as N'jdamena the capital of Chad. France did nothing about it. In fact reports had it then Gen. Muhammadu Buhari and his armored brigade stayed on after orders from Lagos to withdraw. He did eventually but at his own time of choosing.

3. Nigeria has had a breakaway republic called Biafra in the 60's. France gave material and political backing to Biafra yet Biafra collapsed. Nigeria was weaker then than it is now. France made no direct incursion except aid with mercenaries. Nigeria won that war.

4. There exist today many centers of conflict within Nigeria's borders exploited by unseen powerful foreign hands. Some of these conflicts are full blown wars that many countries around the world won't survive yet Nigeria is still standing thanks to our military which not only holds the fort but is deployed abroad. I think you should be unbiased and give credit where it's due.

Following the foregoing it is absurd to contemplate a direct French military intervention. If it could it would have on a pretext backed by NATO (case in point Libya). The US could only apply sanctions under Abacha. In fact the US fled Somalia. It has still not defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan the graveyard of empires. A former French president said of Nigeria "the Nigerian military is a large, well trained and highly capable force" and no one should underestimate them. Nigeria is not Libya. Syria has proven what a cohesive professional military high command can accomplish in the face of daunting challenges—it's holding together down to its NCOs and Syria's strategic global alliances is why Assad is still in power.

The Nigerian military has never lost a war. It is not a sitting duck. Based on current assets, Nigeria has TRACON which is fully integrated with it's Air defense command and Space Agency. It's electronic eyes and ears see well into other countries further afield. The Chinese don't want THAAD because of it's radar reach which essentially makes you a sitting duck for targeting. A well integrated air defense helps to track and shoot down aircraft even with less advanced SAMs. Thats the scenario playing out in east Ukraine against Russian backed rebels. The Roland's may not be S-400s but they are deadly to trespass in a well integrated air defense system. The French know better. The size of our armed forces, capacity and relative capability makes it an un-winnable war for France with negative public opinion back home and the attendant refugee question effectively ending it before it began. The Nigerian Army will bring the war to them in Cameroon or Chad and potentially farther. We have done it before. We will do it again if need be and France will do nothing.

Having said that Nigeria will not win a direct war against France but neither will France. The oil in Nigeria has many vested interests local and foreign that is beyond France alone. In addition Nigeria is arming and should appropriately for future wars that are unpredictable. The French have been known to be spoilers who start wars and run away for others to do the heavy lifting.






So you assume that because France never got involved directly it won't do it. Different presidents react differently. Some may be doves others hawks.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:07am On Sep 22, 2017
newafricaken254:
Egyptian Air Force CASA C-295 tactical airlift aircraft at Ghardia Airport

Ghardaia airport is in Algeria wink

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 7:19am On Sep 22, 2017
Nicheey:



okay ,to begin with I'm not even near "patriotic"
second I never said we had the best air defence system Nigeria is over

923,768 km²


there's no way France could raid our airspace completely like the person i quoted stated ,without having their jet shot down

France has over 2billion investment in Nigeria ,compare to any francophones nations around ,why would they want to risk that over mere cameroon?

if France is stupid enough to back France ,then Nigeria will just slip to Russia for backing ,after all most of our military hardwares comes from Russia ,and also special forces

finally Nigeria is in peace time (I mean no external aggression with her neighbors) before the insurgency and after you'll see Nigeria military has acquired a way too many hardwares ,strict trainings and others ,that's just how it is ,why hunt when there's no animals to he hunted??

where was France when general buhari pursue tchadians deep into their capital?? 1983

or when Nigerian battalion March into Yaoundé during abacha's regime??

Nigeria military possessions are enough for now ,if the needs arises I'm sure you'll see Nigeria acquiring hard wares like the days of Nigeria -Cameroon's dispute over bakassi

My opinion though

i have just one question,what would you shot down french jets with !?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 7:28am On Sep 22, 2017
off topic :moment before a syrian SU-22 jet fitter was turned into a fire ball,when a F-18E jet locked on it .then launched a AIM-120 beyond vision range AAM. multiple F-18E jets used their ATFLIR (Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infra Red) pod filmed the moment the SU-22 fitter jet was locked on,hit and turned into a fireball

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko2X34sN8BI
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:04am On Sep 22, 2017
Henry240:

We are looking at incompetent aides who made an avoidable error, if only they could put their ears down and listen properly.

The only vehicles gotten from Jordan are Streit vehicles, Jordan does not have the authority to donate a company's private equipment.

Jordan is also a poor country that depends on aids from the US, how are they magically going to donate 200 Armoured vehicles to one of the world's top oil producers.

It just doesn't make any sense.

Jordan isnt that poor and they have very good military industy , For streit they have a Streit manufacturing facility for armored vehicles since 2011 , maybe nigerian gouvernment get them with long-term interest-free payment



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rakZIqh49CE

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by nyaber33: 8:11am On Sep 22, 2017
trying to buy weapons from muricah? think again.
but i think the deal will go through eventually

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/351734-gop-reps-question-gao-findings-in-418m-drone-sale-to-kenya
GOP reps question GAO findings in $418M drone sale to Kenya
Two House Republicans are taking issue with a new Government Accountability Office (GAO) report that found no problems with a pending deal to sell 12 U.S. drones to Kenya.

At issue is a Sept. 5 GAO report that scrutinizes a $418 million sole-source contract the Air Force unit Big Safari awarded to defense firm L-3 Technologies. The deal is for 12 weaponized drones to aid Kenya in its fight against the Somali militant group al-Shabaab.

Defense officials “did not have any reason to believe that Kenya improperly selected” the L-3 aircraft, and that “Kenya made a reasonable choice” in its selection, GAO wrote.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:27am On Sep 22, 2017
Mi 28 Algeria

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 8:44am On Sep 22, 2017
nyaber33:
trying to buy weapons from muricah? think again.
but i think the deal will go through eventually

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/351734-gop-reps-question-gao-findings-in-418m-drone-sale-to-kenya




if kenyan could just acquire several super tucanos aircrafts from Brazil,it could send a message to America "we don't like to kept waiting "
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:04am On Sep 22, 2017
Algerian1:


Jordan isnt that poor and they have very good military industy , For streit they have a Streit manufacturing facility for armored vehicles since 2011 , maybe nigerian gouvernment get them with long-term interest-free payment


https://www.youtubeqh49CE

It is absurd to think that Jordan can donate 200 armoured vehicles to Nigeria.

I know Streit has a manufacturing plant in Jordan.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 9:24am On Sep 22, 2017
newafricaken254:
off topic :moment before a syrian SU-22 jet fitter was turned into a fire ball,when a F-18E jet locked on it .then launched a AIM-120 beyond vision range AAM. multiple F-18E jets used their ATFLIR (Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infra Red) pod filmed the moment the SU-22 fitter jet was locked on,hit and turned into a fireball

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko2X34sN8BI


Once again, a Western weapon knocks down Russian equipment. Just saying it in passing.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 9:27am On Sep 22, 2017
GreenandGold:
Always love it when the private security guys do these poses smiley

A German Shepherd is missing from the picture. wink

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