asid:


I believe he meant his new born!

Should that be the case, due apologies.

In any case, the truth does not change. Once a story is not straight twice, it becomes difficult to establish credibility. To say "Sorry, I lied, it was a joke," etc , may help but it is not the same. Why? How am I am sure that your "sorry" is not another "lie"?

Best to always stick with the truth. (Notwithstanding the fact that you can present the truth in many different words.)

Reading this thread before posting prepares you for the kind of comments you may receive to your posts. Reading before applying, can prepare you/help you avoid some pitfalls.


Papa and Mama also fit sabi lie. It is human to err. Admitting error is the first step towards redemption.
I suppose the same bible says the just man falls at least seven times a day.

My5kobo

Sebastine1606:

Oh boy ooh,the LadyG I know doesn't support what is not right, and so, if she has the opportunity to tell "Lai Muhammed" about his lies,then why not?.....Him no be human being like "U"
Anyway,does it mean you were lying

Lie about what?
why should I lie when the truth is even more compelling?.
I'm just saying because some people do come here and be claiming saints.

If you didn't lie on your visa application but went and lie to your Boss that you were sick yesterday that's why you couldn't come to work or tell any other type of lie, no matter how small the lie is.... before God, You all are the same thing.

please this is not to attack any individual, but to everyone here.

borryworld:
both immigration and US embassy accept head cover.

thank you for this... Thats how I was told too by someone that passport isnt taken with scarf.

JWTheocracy1:
Lie about what?
why should I lie when the truth is even more compelling?.
I'm just saying because some people do come here and be claiming saints.

If you didn't lie on your visa application but went and lie to your Boss that you were sick yesterday that's why you couldn't come to work or tell any other type of lie, no matter how small the lie is.... before God, You all are the same thing.

please this is not to attack any individual, but to everyone here.

Sir, That is the question.
Only you (and God) know the whole truth about you and your circumstances.
Here, everyone takes what is useful to them from the advice they receive. If they consider the advice not good for them, or their personal agenda, they are free to leave it.

I am not sure anyone is claiming saints here. Each one is contributing from his/her experiences. But people volunteering to give advice do not like it when the goal post or the story keeps changing. If you are helping other people, it is good to be upfront about it.
If you have stomach ache and tell the doctor you have headache, the panadol the doctor will give may not cure your stomach ache. At the end of the day, it is your stomach, you can self medicate, the consequences are on you.
But it is another story if you have headache and stomachache, etc o. Let's not make a super story here.

nefertitiram:


That he/she planned to go to Florida but with the hurricane issue, I have decided to visit another city, which is not affected by hurricane

Thanks, that's what others making fun of someone denial should ve said inform of help to her and others in such situation instead of name calling.

JWTheocracy1:
Lie about what?
why should I lie when the truth is even more compelling?.
I'm just saying because some people do come here and be claiming saints.

If you didn't lie on your visa application but went and lie to your Boss that you were sick yesterday that's why you couldn't come to work or tell any other type of lie, no matter how small the lie is.... before God, You all are the same thing.

please this is not to attack any individual, but to everyone here.

JW, nobody is claiming to be a saint, but "documented lie "will not help future application... That's all we are clamoring on

Your 2 ears must show. A small/thin scarf covering just the hair portion is okay (because of religion)

gbemmy777:
thank you for this... Thats how I was told too by someone that passport isnt taken with scarf.

Sebastine1606:

JW, nobody is claiming to be a saint, but "documented lie "will not help future application... That's all we are clamoring on

exactly

bigbus:


Sir, That is the question.
Only you (and God) know the whole truth about you and your circumstances.
Here, everyone takes what is useful to them from the advice they receive. If they consider the advice not good for them, or their personal agenda, they are free to leave it.

I am not sure anyone is claiming saints here. Each one is contributing from his/her experiences. But people volunteering to give advice do not like it when the goal post or the story keeps changing. If you are helping other people, it is good to be upfront about it.
If you have stomach ache and tell the doctor you have headache, the panadol the doctor will give may not cure your stomach ache. At the end of the day, it is your stomach, you can self medicate, the consequences are on you.
But it is another story if you have headache and stomachache, etc o. Let's not make a super story here.

noted!
no wahala. whosoever that comes here to lie should go and lie no more. this forum is so educating and enlightening... at least it has made so many of us to know we can do it ourselves without giving a dime to what I call "Agents of Darkness". Sometimes I do ask myself if the likes of LadyG, seyenwanne, OmoBiafra(OmoBendel),Nefetitiram, Bigbus,Constance, abis and including the honorable VO's gets paid by anyone for the good works they do here consistently. Remain blessed as you all continue the total emancipation.

Mbamto:
Your 2 ears must show. A small/thin scarf covering just the hair portion is okay (because of religion)

exactly my point, saying the two ears must show is better than saying scarf isn't allowed.

bigbus:


Sir, Have you been to Holland before? Working with a Dutch NGO could be a good opportunity; timely return from a visit to Holland can help demonstrate your intention not to abandon Nigeria.

I've been to Holland three times and 7 other European countries and Dubai on three occasions. I've already travelled twice this year .... Early Jan and in august

nanajec:



I've been to Holland three times and 7 other European countries and Dubai on three occasions. I've already travelled twice this year .... Early Jan and in august

Great! Good travel history should work in your favour. Read well the thread, see how best to express the truth with your replies at the interview.

shrekandfiona:

I just have to comment. Did your wife give birth prematurely? You said she'll be 7months 3rd week in August and now you talk about your new born?

In all honesty, your story isn't straight despite this your epistle

No advice for you. Sorry

Did you say I mentioned 3rd week in August? Read well. And, I don't need your advice.

Sebastine1606:

This is so so wrong, why try to let people be discouraged by a particular window or VO, FYI, if it's ur turn to get to the VO and refused all in the name of "avioding" other VOs will mark your face, so just pray for God's favor and stop this biased mind set

Mark face bawo
They don't know you and they don't want to know you
Everyone is busy and don't have your time

I have the right to try another VO if I have being previously denied by a particular one.Simple

LadyGuinivere:

My advice is that you die the idea of filling the lies you filled before. Fill the truth now. FYI you cannot retrieve that form again. U can call the embassy to reconfirm sha

Meaning?
I asked a question
If you don't have the answers,then u keep scrolling
I'm here to learn
You don't have to comment on every post you know

Kirri:


Mark face bawo
They don't know you and they don't want to know you
Everyone is busy and don't have your time

I have the right to try another VO if I have being previously denied by a particular one.Simple

Really??
I wish I could go back like from 260-289 of this thread and give you a reply that wil shock you, directly from a VOs mouth to an applicant who refused to go ahead, for this same reason..
See, let me tell you, if you are under the supernatural grace of God, the blue paper will be too heavy for the VO to pick and give you, even though 10 people has been given backward, and Yes, "if your story sell market for ear"
Careful oh

Meaning?
I asked a question
If you don't have the answers,then u keep scrolling
I'm here to learn
You don't have to comment on every post you know

@Kirri,this is by so far, the best advice anybody who wants you to be successful in your visa application could get you

Sebastine1606:

Really??
I wish I could go back like from 260-289 of this thread and give you a reply that wil shock you, directly from a VOs mouth to an applicant who refused to go ahead, for this same reason..
See, let me tell you, if you are under the supernatural grace of God, the blue paper will be too heavy for the VO to pick and give you, even though 10 people has been given backward, and Yes, "if your story sell market for ear"
Careful oh

Really
Cos I've also heard a VO say an applicant has the right to meet another VO if previously denied by one
I saw it live on fb

Cryptolady:


Really
Cos I've also heard a VO say an applicant has the right to meet another VO if previously denied by one
I saw it live on fb

A VO told a guy coming towards, that the guy before him would be denied, coz he refused to come forth, that other VOs has seen his face, he was denied too and went to Abuja, to have another interview swiftly, when asked you just did interview, he said "The VO who interviewed him didn't check his profile docs properly, he was approved

Cryptolady:


Really
Cos I've also heard a VO say an applicant has the right to meet another VO if previously denied by one
I saw it live on fb

Yes, VOs don't interview you twice on same visa class. But once in the interview hall, when you don't behave and comport yourself you call attention to yourself ahead of whichever window you scheme to arrive. Several ways abound for you to preempt matters ahead of time with your hand inside that hall!

LadyGuinivere:

Dude. The answer is simple. Marriage is by operation of law. There is
Married
Single
Divorced
Widowed
Each status is regulated by law. Which are you? Have u been declared married by law? If not. You are single. Shikena
You can explain the extras at the interview

You are very correct but there is another one on the list which you did not mention called 'others'
And this option is the basis for my question

JWTheocracy1:
noted!
no wahala. whosoever that comes here to lie should go and lie no more. this forum is so educating and enlightening... at least it has made so many of us to know we can do it ourselves without giving a dime to what I call "Agents of Darkness". Sometimes I do ask myself if the likes of LadyG, seyenwanne, OmoBiafra(OmoBendel),Nefetitiram, Bigbus,Constance, abis and including the honorable VO's gets paid by anyone for the good works they do here consistently. Remain blessed as you all continue the total emancipation.

Which one is Seyenwanne?

seyewest:
Which one is Seyenwanne?

Ask the nearest ibo man

kessel:

You are very correct but there is another one on the list which you did not mention called 'others'
And this option is the basis for my question

That is for things like common law Marriage ....
U can put anything your want dear. Its your form

Cryptolady:


Really
Cos I've also heard a VO say an applicant has the right to meet another VO if previously denied by one
I saw it live on fb

Yes the same VO cannot review an applicant twice. That would kinda be like reviewing Your Own work and grading it.
What the other posters meant was: When you are about to be interviewed, do not avoid or favour a vo because others will use it against u. Even if the guy has interviewed one previously, simply walk up to him and say ' u denied me last month or last year'

To the people that tagged me earlier. Seen
However Il keep commenting. If u don't like it, stop asking questions on a public thread. Not every one can be dubious like y'all. In fact I'll make it my personal business to answer all dubious sounding fellows. Nonsense and ingridents!!!

Shrekandfiona thanks for the drop of golden sun.

Rachie83:
If you had been denied you will see people making jest of you telling you cos u ve no ties u ve no job and you want to travel for tourism, some pple here will just hide at the back of their keyboard 'yabbing' people they don't know. Congratulations

Yes o, some very plenty over sabi, i too know, I must comment peoples

Congrats jare

CreativeWeb:
LadyGuinivere, KaptainAfrika, OmoBendel24, Sebastine1606, judging someone outrightly is not fair just because he was denied Visa.

My wife and I applied and submitted Ds160 form in June. We intended to travel on 10th July and come back in August. We were to spend only 3 weeks. By first week of August, she would be only 7 months pregnant.

But, when we wanted to book appointment, we didn't even get date in June and July. We got August.

We went for interview. Before interview, we were advised never to talk about what we are not asked about.

VO asked us why we are going to the US, we told her we are going for vacation and Synod. She asked if we have kids, we said no. She asked if I have traveled before, I said yes. She asked if we traveled together that time, I said no.

We said the truth. I didn't know I should have told her that we are going for vacation and Synod, and that my wife is pregnant but we didn't intend to have our baby in the US. I didn't know we should have explained that. People told us that if you explain what you are not asked, they will see you as being too forward.

Now, a clergy, a member of our Diocese who has stayed in the US for 37 years is inviting me to a conference in his church. I will be speaking at the conference pro Bono.

My wife can't follow me because of the new born baby. The conference is only 7 days. I want to go for the Conference, but I can also decide not to go. It's not a do or die conference.

I have a life in Nigeria. I pastor a big congregation of an Anglican Church. I'm married with a kid. My wife is a student. And, you are telling me that I'm lying that I just want to relocate to the US. That's not true.

There's no way I can stay beyond the approval of my Lord Bishop. What will I be doing in the US? How will I even parade myself as a clergy without a written letter of release from my Bishop. Unless you mean my Bishop is also part of the shady deal like you have believed.

Where will I stay in the US after the conference is over and my host will be getting ready to escort me to the airport? Does that mean that this elderly clergy who has lived for 37 years in the US is part of the shady deal? I don't have or know anybody in the US.

I'm attending this conference with the permission of my wife. US is not heaven and I still have opportunities to travel the world. I'm not desperate. I'm an international minister of God. It will manifest fully. I will tour nations.

In 2012, I was in India to study multimedia. I knew what I encountered there. I was even single then. India was good. But, after my studies, I left without overstaying for one day.

So, speaking authoritatively that you know all my plans is quite unfair.

This forum or this thread is full of valuable information, but harassing people because you are one of people that give incisive information here, is totally unfair.

There are 101 people that got Visas, yet they lied during the interview.

There are 101 people also that were denied, yet, they said the truth and have ties.

VOs are not God. They are humans. They can misinterpret things.

***

In the thread I created, I wanted to use company and not church because NL is a secular forum. I wanted to paint a normal scenario that was why I used company.

But, later in the thread, I decided to be plain to someone that commented on the thread.

It's like someone saying this - "A friend of mine wants to get Visa to go meet his girlfriend who's a citizen, what are the documents?" Then, later in the thread, he says, "In fact, it's me. Let me explain further how I met her and bla bla."

You can't crucify the person for trying to be anonymous in the first place. We are not conducting interview here. This is why we use usernames and all that. This is why writers use pen names.

So, when I said my company, I was not trying to be shady.

So, please, I'm not trying to play any game. If you advice me that accepting to attend this conference when I have a new born baby who I should stay around to enjoy his arrival, may look as if I'm desperate to the VO, then I can reason with you. But telling me that my plans are bursted, is lame. There no bursting here. I'm credible beyond what you might think.

If I want to relocate to the US as a clergy with my family, there's a laid down procedures for doing it in the Church of Nigeria (Anglican Communion). The Bishop over there, the Primate of the Church of Nigeria and my own Bishop will work it out and I will be applying for Religious Visa, which will enable me to work.

Besides that, no sane clergy of Anglican Church and Roman Catholic Church will just travel with a visiting Visa and then stay back. Stay back for what and on whose episcopal permission?

Thank you. Let's keep on giving value.

Dear Father, forgive them for they know not what they are doing

LadyGuinivere:
@biamoz I saw your post earlier and unfortunately I cannot speculate based on the post. It is not enough to reach a rational conclusion.
The only two generalizations I can come to with is
Either the foundation has been broken earlier by a misrepresentation ( you guys should review all your applications and see) . In that case, you can travel to all the countries In the world and it wouldn't make a difference.
Or they are not satisfied with your ties
So you that know all the details of your applications, go back to the drawing board. Review each one especially the very first one and the one after the lottery
Documents are rarely asked for or checked

Thanks a lot Lady G for your suggestion. I attend to attend the same conference by May next year. Please How will you advice me to package my application.

Biamoz:


Thanks a lot Lady G for your suggestion. I attend to attend the same conference by May next year. Please How will you advice me to package my application.

"Package" that word dey fear people o, No need packaging, just make your intent clear and well researched. Also first self evaluate if at this time you qualify to get a visa.

Biamoz:


Thanks a lot Lady G for your suggestion. I attend to attend the same conference by May next year. Please How will you advice me to package my application.

Package ke..... meaning?

pooozeee:
[color=#000099]If not because of the stupidity of our past leaders, I no many of u won't be thinking to travelling to the US
Nigeria is blessed with so many natural resources which is good enough to develop this country but yet we mis managed it thru the act of selfishness

There are several other countries u can visit aside America

I don't know Y u all rushing to the US
U guys should just take it easy, visit other nice country aside US

Kindly drop example of the countries... US wahala taya person