Tinfoil:
Ambushes

https://videopress.com/v/foGIVgPS

I thought we agreed terrorist bs or their enablers have no place here!

newafricaken254:
off topic :moment before a syrian SU-22 jet fitter was turned into a fire ball,when a F-18E jet locked on it .then launched a AIM-120 beyond vision range AAM. multiple F-18E jets used their ATFLIR (Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infra Red) pod filmed the moment the SU-22 fitter jet was locked on,hit and turned into a fireball

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko2X34sN8BI

Why would you compare an F-18E with an SU-22. That would not be a fiar comparison .

How ever it was not the F-18E missile that brought down the SU-22.


How Did a 30-Year-Old Jet Dodge the Pentagon's Latest Missile?

The AIM-9X Sidewinder failed to bring down an aging attack jet.

By now you've probably heard that a U.S. fighter shot down a Syrian jet about a week ago. What you might not know is that before the F/A-18E hit its target, it missed–and it missed with the best, newest U.S. missile.

On June 18, just moments after a Syrian Arab Air Force Su-22 attacked Coalition forces, a U.S. Navy F/A-18E Super Hornet strike fighter rolled into a firing position and opened fire. The Super Hornet locked onto the Su-22 "Fitter" and launched the Military's most advanced short-range air-to-air missile, which promptly missed. While the plane was eventually brought down by another, different missile, the question remains: why did the AIM-9X Sidewinder miss?
Read more..........,




http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/news/a27094/su-22-dodge-aim-9x-sidewinder/

ActivateKruger:



Once again, a Western weapon knocks down Russian equipment. Just saying it in passing.

According to CNN, the Navy Super Hornet locked onto the Su-22 Fitter at a range of 1.5 miles. The Super Hornet launched an AIM-9X, and the Syrian pilot loosed flares to lure the infrared guided missile away from his fighter. The trick worked, and the American missile missed. The Super Hornet then launched an AMRAAM missile which, using radar guidance, is unaffected by flares. This time the Fitter went down.

newafricaken254:
jordan isn't in the league to donate brand new APC's,considering they sold kenya very un-airworthy F-5's.a country so poor than kenya,which survives on american and saudi AID and donations

I only know they were rebuilt at a licenced facility;there's no other way the US would've allowed such a project. I searched for info on this and only found KADDB,King Abdullah 2 Design and Development Bureau. Set up in 99 it was the ME's first indigenous military industrial rebuild and local production facility.

King Abdullah II Design and Development Bureau (KADDB) is an independent government entity within the Jordan Armed Forces (JAF) aiming at becoming a global defense and security research and development hub in the region. The Bureau’s scope of work includes Defense Design and Development, Test and Evaluation, Technology Incubation in the Kingdom, and Defense Technology Training.

Design and Development tasks initiate with the identification of user requirements, based on analyzing the nature of a threat. The process carries through concept design and development of possible applications, followed by prototyping.

The Test and Evaluation process is then performed at the internationally accredited Test and Evaluation Center, which conducts independent evaluations and experiments on and for land vehicles, weapons, ammunition, military equipment and armor material testing.

Once a product is approved, it is directed to the related affiliate of the KADDB Investment Group, where a production line would be ready for mass production. The Test and Evaluation Center serves JAF’s various entities, law enforcement agencies, and external customers

http://www.kaddb.com/en-us/ABOUT-US/INTRODUCTION

Basically,that's why they're selling us their equipment! This is smth we could have/should've done by pooling our resources together.....anyway!
They produce everything from MRAPs,pistols,mortars,C 235 gunship version in conjunction with ATK and are now working on the larger 295(can't wait!).

In collaboration with KADDB, ATK developed and provided the system integration and aircraft modifications to turn a CASA-235 cargo plane into a multi-mission gunship. Modifications included the installation of an electro-optical targeting system, a laser designator, aircraft self-protection equipment, a synthetic aperture radar and an armaments capability that provides sustained and precise firepower in a variety of scenarios using Hellfire laser-guided missiles, 2.75-inch rockets, and a side-mounted M230 link-fed 30mm chain gun. The ATK-supplied gun is controlled by the fire-control system, automatically linking the gun’s aim point to the selected target of interest, as illuminated by the mission operators using the laser designator. These capabilities are integrated with and controlled by ATK’s Mission System that provides both day and night reconnaissance and fire control capabilities, and the ability to acquire, monitor and track items of interest

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/ac-235.htm

I always say,the first step is the most important. The King is a visionary!

ActivateKruger:



Once again, a Western weapon knocks down Russian equipment. Just saying it in passing.

and even had time to give us a kodak moment

kikuyu1:


I thought we agreed terrorist bs or their enablers have no place here!

ignoring them seems silly

Sukhoi 30 MKA , Algerian AF

first image of Zambia's newly-delivered CH-3 UCAVs, making Zambia the second confirmed operator of CH-3s in Africa.

newafricaken254:
first image of Zambia's newly-delivered CH-3 UCAVs, making Zambia the second confirmed operator of CH-3s in Africa.

Beautiful. However, is Zambia battling with terrorism? They're doing really good with China. First a jet and now a UCAV.

IMO, Kenya should be operating UCAVs already. It will be useful against those terrorists in Somalia.

Angolan SU-30s on test flights in Belarus before delivery.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GZkWMK7BgE

Burkina Faso UH-1H donated by Taiwan.

Nigerian Navy

Henry Henry, there have been many comments recently on the prowess of Nigerian armed forces that should have gotten your head rolling 2 ways.
Anyway, let's do a bit of basic analysis:
"....Speaking during a bilateral meeting with King Abdullah II shortly after his address to the 72nd Session of the United Nations General Assembly, in New York on Tuesday, Buhari thanked the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan for its support to Nigeria’s campaign against terrorism and insurgency with the donation of military hardware and the pledge to further supply helicopters. President Buhari according to a statement signed by the Special Adviser on Media and Publicity, Femi Adesina also reassured King Abdullah of Nigeria’s commitment towards the proposed Aqaba Process...."
1. First announced at the UN meeting between Buhari and the Jordanian head; long after we received the first batch of Streit vehicles. Discussions have been ongoing before now and still continuing before the donation. Note this is a donation of 200 vehicles.
2. The 177 Streit vehicles were ordered and paid for by the Nigerian Ports Authrioty. It was not a donation, it was a purchase. The first batch of vehicles was produced in the UAE not Jordan. Let's do the maths. About 25 vehicles were supplied as first batch leaving 152 which will come from their Jordanian facility. 152 in no way equates to 200.
3. Let me rephrase my previous questionable statement: I do not see the Nigerian military doing a significant procurement of the ARA MRAP. Why? Antecedents:
--Past events tell me they'll do their usual photo ops purchase less than 20 and that's it.
--Proforce has a quality vehicle in the PF2, the army has not made any attempt to replace as few as 50 toyota hilux with the PF2. The police hasn't made any significant order either.
--The PF2 was there and still is, when the airforce made the ridiculous purchase of 11 or 12 Polish Honker vehicles, approved by the MOD.
--How many of the military's over 500 Toyota pickup trucks used in field operations have been uparmoured by Proforce? Very few (or none). If you know better, I'll like to hear it. You know the reason we've lost many good men and young officers to bh ambushes?
4. Would you like the army to add another line of armoured vehicles to their inventory after the BigFoot, Reva, MaxxPro, Caiman, Streit Spartan & Typhoon, and this Jordanian donation of 200 vehicles? I support local capacity but the logistic nightmare will be horrible if it isn't already.
Like you I wish the donation wasn't real, but it is.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/09/insurgency-jordan-donates-200-armoured-fighting-vehicles-nigeria/

Henry240:

This comment just got my head rolling. I believe we are all entitled to our opinions but come on!

Could you please expand on the part in bold, how did you come by this conclusion?

Secondly, where are these donated 200 armoured vehicles some of you lot keep talking about?

andrewza:


ignoring them seems silly

I know these Somalis,you don't! Let me repeat what I said to someone this year. These guys are deliberately acculturated to believe in a superiority over bantus. They're hair of which they're exceedingly proud of is a sign Allah loves them more than African (madh madhou,hard hair,don't laugh!). They can't reconcile this belief with the presence of Kenyan,Ugandan and Burundese (!?) troops on their sacred soil.
Also most Somalis ,thanks to limited exposure and straitened circumstances really can't contribute to a thread of this type. Most 20-40 year old Somalis are products of liberal Western immigration policies-they live in the UK,France,Sweden and the US but still aren't Brits,French or Swedes. They get by in the physical and self made mental ghettos of those first world nations. Some with a little knowledge know how pitiful Zoomalia truly was-the knowledge of insignificance pains them like a lost limb. A perpetual 5th world country constantly near starvation with the most bare arsed military assets. IIRC,many of the army officers who led the Ethio invasion were illiterate!

After independence, the Somali Republic adopted an irrendentist foreign policy with the intention to reconstruct the pre-colonial borders and establish an all-encompassing Greater Somalia. This culminated in several conventional wars and border skirmishes in the form of the 1964 Border War, the Shifta War, the Ogaden War, the Rhamu Incident, and the 1982 Border war, which pitched the Somali military against other forces

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Somalia

In the few years of existence they sparked off 3 major wars and didn't win one! Here are their 2 SN Osa boats and an overturned T34 in Harar during their ill fated Ethiopian invasion. The last pic was found abandoned in the 93 UN mission to the Mog.

So what do they do? They compensate-screaming,denigrating those beneath themselves and praising their own few 'heroes,'so scant in number they're actually nothing but Al Shabaab murderers-check their posts here on NL. Observe their chosen form of interaction with others.
Believe you me-this place is salty enough without their peculiar pathologies.

Deway7575:
Henry Henry, there have been many comments recently on the prowess of Nigerian armed forces that should have gotten your head rolling 2 ways.
Anyway, let's do a bit of basic analysis:
"....Speaking during a bilateral meeting with King Abdullah II shortly after his address to the 72nd Session of the United Nations General Assembly, in New York on Tuesday, Buhari thanked the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan for its support to Nigeria’s campaign against terrorism and insurgency with the donation of military hardware and the pledge to further supply helicopters. President Buhari according to a statement signed by the Special Adviser on Media and Publicity, Femi Adesina also reassured King Abdullah of Nigeria’s commitment towards the proposed Aqaba Process...."
1. First announced at the UN meeting between Buhari and the Jordanian head; long after we received the first batch of Streit vehicles. Discussions have been ongoing before now and still continuing before the donation. Note this is a donation of 200 vehicles.
2. The 177 Streit vehicles were ordered and paid for by the Nigerian Ports Authrioty. It was not a donation, it was a purchase. The first batch of vehicles was produced in the UAE not Jordan. Let's do the maths. About 25 vehicles were supplied as first batch leaving 152 which will come from their Jordanian facility. 152 in no way equates to 200.
3. Let me rephrase my previous questionable statement: I do not see the Nigerian military doing a significant procurement of the ARA MRAP. Why? Antecedents:
--Past events tell me they'll do their usual photo ops purchase less than 20 and that's it.
--Proforce has a quality vehicle in the PF2, the army has not made any attempt to replace as few as 50 toyota hilux with the PF2. The police hasn't made any significant order either.
--The PF2 was there and still is, when the airforce made the ridiculous purchase of 11 or 12 Polish Honker vehicles, approved by the MOD.
--How many of the military's over 500 Toyota pickup trucks used in field operations have been uparmoured by Proforce? Very few (or none). If you know better, I'll like to hear it. You know the reason we've lost many good men and young officers to bh ambushes?
4. Would you like the army to add another line of armoured vehicles to their inventory after the BigFoot, Reva, MaxxPro, Caiman, Streit Spartan & Typhoon, and this Jordanian donation of 200 vehicles? I support local capacity but the logistic nightmare will be horrible if it isn't already.
Like you I wish the donation wasn't real, but it is.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/09/insurgency-jordan-donates-200-armoured-fighting-vehicles-nigeria/

Sorry I know this discussion is not my business but why would the Nigerian ports authority purchase military hardware on behalf of the army ?

What happened to ministry of defense, please can you link a source to that statement .

Donation to Somalia by the Chinese govt.

Whilst we're on the subject of donations, UAE donations to Somalia and the autonomous region of Jubaland.

newafricaken254:
first image of Zambia's newly-delivered CH-3 UCAVs, making Zambia the second confirmed operator of CH-3s in Africa.

i read that its only for a civilian geological Survey mission for mineral exploration for only four month



Govt launches an airborne geological Survey in Mbala

Government has launched an airborne geological Survey in Mbala district in Northern province for possible mineral exploration in three selected districts in the region.

ZANIS reports that Northern province permanent secretary who flagged off the exercise today at Samora Macheal Airforce base said government in partnership with China Geological Department is in the hurry to actualize socio-economic development through mining in northern province.

Dr. Kalumba said the commencement of the geological Survey for possible mineral exploration in the three districts of northern province namely , Mbala, Mungwi, and Kasama is a big achievement for the people of the region.

Republican President Edgar Lungu has resolved to promote industrialization in all parts of the country as a way of ensuring development reach the people, he said.

Dr. Kalumba explained further that government has signed a number of agreements with the government of the People’s Republic of China for mutual cooperation in mining and agricultural sectors among others.

He said the geological Survey for possible mineral exploration in the said districts is a clear demonstration of the unwavering partnership Zambia has enjoyed from China.

Dr. Kalumba was happy to note that the China Geological Survey Department had developed high-tech equipment which will be used in the survey for easy capturing of data and analysis.

And Director of Geological Survey in the Ministry of Mines and Mineral Development, Chipilauka Mukofu stated that the exercise will take a period of four months .

Mr. Mukofu further explained that once data is captured and analyzed experts will draw the maps indicating the specific areas with minerals .

He said Government will then consider giving license for possible exploration .

source : lusakatimes

Deway7575:

"....Speaking during a bilateral meeting with King Abdullah II shortly after his address to the 72nd Session of the United Nations General Assembly, in New York on Tuesday, Buhari thanked the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan for its support to Nigeria’s campaign against terrorism and insurgency with the donation of military hardware and the pledge to further supply helicopters. President Buhari according to a statement signed by the Special Adviser on Media and Publicity, Femi Adesina also reassured King Abdullah of Nigeria’s commitment towards the proposed Aqaba Process...."
1. First announced at the UN meeting between Buhari and the Jordanian head;

This is why I'm puzzled when the nonsensical question is "where are these donated vehicles?" Occam's Razor: the 2 countries have been negotiating this for some time and decided to announce it to the world at the UNGA. Logically, next announcement will be schedule of deliveries.
I refuse to believe Aso Rock is so incompetent as to confuse a donation with the prior purchase in June 2016 from Streit.

Still hope it's Ratels .

PICS: Jordanian Ratels

frumentius:


This is why I'm puzzled when the nonsensical question is "where are these donated vehicles?" Occam's Razor: the 2 countries have been negotiating this for some time and decided to announce it to the world at the UNGA. Logically, next announcement will be schedule of deliveries.
I refuse to believe Aso Rock is so incompetent as to confuse a donation with the prior purchase in June 2016 from Streit.

Still hope it's Ratels .

PICS: Jordanian Ratels

How many ratels does SANDF operates.

bidexiii:


According to CNN, the Navy Super Hornet locked onto the Su-22 Fitter at a range of 1.5 miles. The Super Hornet launched an AIM-9X, and the Syrian pilot loosed flares to lure the infrared guided missile away from his fighter. The trick worked, and the American missile missed. The Super Hornet then launched an AMRAAM missile which, using radar guidance, is unaffected by flares. This time the Fitter went down.

The fact that most of the times when West and Russian equipment meet in the air, Russian equipment eats the dust time and time again.

ActivateKruger:


The fact that most of the times when West and Russian equipment meet in the air, Russian equipment eats the dust time and time again.

Really ? F18 against a su22?

Even a F-14 will shoot down a su22. Until an American jet shoots down a Russian piloted Mig 29, SU 27 then you can justify it.


More like Abrams shoots down a BMP

ActivateKruger:


The fact that most of the times when West and Russian equipment meet in the air, Russian equipment eats the dust time and time again.

Sure F18 , AWACS VS su 22 ( a bomber with 47 years old in service) and they even managed to miss it with AIM-9X Sidewinder ( the most advanced infrared-tracking, short-range air-to-air missile in the world. they said)


its like russian Su 30 or Su 35 with AWACS support Vs an iranian F14 ! what a pitty



it sur to play the big arms with their NATO coalition against the small countries under embrago USA are champions ! the day they take Russian one on one , that day we will see the true Air to Air kills

tdayof:


How many ratels does SANDF operates.

About 1200 in 6 variants, with half of that in storage.

PICS: World-wide operators of the Ratel.

tdayof:


Really ? F18 against a su22?

Even a F-14 will shoot down a su22. Until an American jet shoots down a Russian piloted Mig 29, SU 27 then you can justify it.


More like Abrams shoots down a BMP

I de look am like beans wey no gree don

frumentius:


About 1200 in 6 variants, with half of that in storage.

PICS: World-wide operators of the Ratel.

I thought someone said Jordan donated 150 ratel to a country. Then 150+200=350. They however operate just 321

Algerian1:


i read that its only for a civilian geological Survey mission for mineral exploration for only four month



Govt launches an airborne geological Survey in Mbala


source : lusakatimes

UCAV for mineral exploration?

zambia female K-8 fighter pilot

ActivateKruger:


The fact that most of the times when West and Russian equipment meet in the air, Russian equipment eats the dust time and time again.

No fan of Vlad's equipment but one can't draw any meaningful comparisons from such encounters. At the end of the day, it comes down to training. All the Gucci air gear in the Saudi coalition hasn't made any difference in Yemen, because of poor training. For all of Egypt's assets for example, the Israelis still have an edge because of their superb training, in my opinion.
Training, systems of systems count for a whole lot more in aerial warfare between peer adversaries.

POSTSCRIPT: Turkey /NATO F-16 downing a Russkie Fencer doesn't count. Syrian Flankers doing the same to a US Warthog is just as likely.

tdayof:



I thought someone said Jordan donated 150 ratel to a country. Then 150+200=350. They however operate just 321

You thought incorrectly. A proper read of posts will spare all of us such meaningless exertions. To wit: "Jordan retains 250 Ratels after donating some to Yemen".

Where, pray tell, did you read Jordan donating 150 Ratel?
Same place you read MI-17 couldn't carry people?

tdayof:


UCAV for mineral exploration?

Its a civilian version of the UAV , just google CH3 UAV zambia you will find some source about the news like chinadaily ( dont want to get another antispam ban for today by putting links )


Chinese drones assist African mine surveying

By Zhao Lei | China Daily | Updated: 2017-08-26 07:16

Chinese unmanned aircraft have made the first drone-sbased aerial survey of mineral resources in Africa, according to the drones' producer.

The China Academy of Aerospace Aerodynamics refitted several of its best-selling CH-3 midrange combat/reconnaissance unpiloted planes to be the world's first deployable mine-survey drones and have been using them to prospect for mineral resources in the southern African country of Zambia since mid-July.
So far, the CH-3s have carried out more than 50 flights and flown nearly 32,000 kilometers in Zambia in aerial prospecting operations, the academy said in a news release sent to China Daily.

The project is part of an intergovernmental aid program launched by the Chinese Ministry of Commerce's Agency for International Economic Cooperation and China Geological Survey and was aimed at using drones to survey an 80,000-square kilometer area in northern and northeastern Zambia.

China has used manned aircraft to perform aerial prospecting for other nations such as Cambodia, Indonesia and Laos, and has deployed unmanned planes to survey mineral resources on its own territory. However, this is the first time a Chinese drone has conducted such an operation overseas and is also the first time an African nation has adopted unmanned aircraft to explore mines, the academy said.].

Source chinadaily

Algerian1:


( dont want to get another antispam ban for today by putting links )

time to log on as chkil?

EDIT: Your reliance on factual evidence is also proof you didn't get the memo on self-esteem