Seriously, I know this woman.She has been caught about 4 years ago at MFM headquarters Onike where she stole money from another woman's bag while carrying a baby on her back.She was paraded all round the church that day and disgraced properly.

asuustrike2009:

It's your choice if you choose not to go to church.

you didn't Answer my question! why did they not choose the verse that says FORGIVE? you hypocrite!
this is not about me or what i ve chosen, if you must know i would have forgiven the theif even though i am not a church goer.

Martin0:



hahahahahahah na wa ooo hmmm make I jus dey observe Una

martin! he doesn't know who he is debating with. how far? were have you been hiding?

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Black man, black troubles, why dem no do special deliverance for her for total cleansing? Se na police ho heal her?

gypsey:
you didn't Answer my question! why did they not choose the verse that says FORGIVE? you hypocrite!
this is not about me or what i ve chosen, if you must know i would have forgiven the theif even though i am not a church goer.

Why should they? If your child steals and says sorry yet he continues to steal,would you discipline him? If no what precedence would you lay for other children to follow. The scriptures below condemn such act
Exodus 20:15
"You shall not steal


Exodus 22:1-4
"If a man steals an ox or a sheep and slaughters it or sells it, he shall pay five oxen for the ox and four sheep for the sheep.
"If the thief is caught while breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there will be no bloodguiltiness on his account.
"But if the sun has risen on him, there will be bloodguiltiness on his account. He shall surely make restitution; if he owns nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
"If what he stole is actually found alive in his possession, whether an ox or a donkey or a sheep, he shall pay double"

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God
Ephesians 4:27 says it all. She should not steal instead labour with her hand. She's not the first to experience hard times because we all at one time go through it.
Ephesians 4:27
He who steals must steal no longer; but rather he must labor, performing with his own hands what is good, so that he will have something to share with one who has need

asuustrike2009:

Why should they? If your child steals and says sorry yet he continues to steal,would you discipline him? If no what precedence would you lay for other children to follow. The scriptures below condemn such act
Exodus 20:15
"You shall not steal


Exodus 22:1-4
"If a man steals an ox or a sheep and slaughters it or sells it, he shall pay five oxen for the ox and four sheep for the sheep.
"If the thief is caught while breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there will be no bloodguiltiness on his account.
"But if the sun has risen on him, there will be bloodguiltiness on his account. He shall surely make restitution; if he owns nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
"If what he stole is actually found alive in his possession, whether an ox or a donkey or a sheep, he shall pay double"

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God
Ephesians 4:27 says it all. She should not steal instead labour with her hand. She's not the first to experience hard times because we all at one time go through it.
Ephesians 4:27
He who steals must steal no longer; but rather he must labor, performing with his own hands what is good, so that he will have something to share with one who has need

you are quoting again from a so called holy bible written by an unknown people 3000 years ago. what about the verse that says he who is without sin cast the first stone? tell me are you more righteous than that thief have you never done anything wrong in your whole entire life? even the so called God we believe forgives us and we ask for forgiveness every day from God, why couldn't we humans forgive our fellow humans? again you are choosing the verses that suits your sentiments

and all these chapters you have quoted has no relation to what we are debating about.

KAYD007:


Your logic is flawed! Going by your reasoning, i can walk into the church, kill a person, but since it is a church, i shouldn't be held responsible, after all the person i killed will be going to heaven!

If that woman has done that outside, somewhere else, she will be beaten, stripped naked and puvssy stuffed with GHANA pepper! but in the church none of that was done, she was simply caught and handed over to the police.

Afterall Jesus said he has not come to destroy the LAW but to fulfill it.

Once again i submit that your logic on this matter is flawed.

you still dont understand what i'm trying to bring out you obviously dont. try to understand before criticizing me. kill is far different from steal

gypsey:
you are quoting again from a so called holy bible written by an unknown people 3000 years ago. what about the verse that says he who is without sin cast the first stone? tell me are you more righteous than that thief have you never done anything wrong in your whole entire life? even the so called God we believe forgives us and we ask for forgiveness every day from God, why couldn't we humans forgive our fellow humans? again you are choosing the verses that suits your sentiments

and all these chapters you have quoted has no relation to what we are debating about.

Do you mean this below
Jesus returned to the Mount of Olives, 2 but early the next morning he was back again at the Temple. A crowd soon gathered, and he sat down and taught them. 3 As he was speaking, the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in the act of adultery. They put her in front of the crowd.

4 “Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”

6 They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. 7 They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” 8 Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.

9 When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. 10 Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”

11 “No, Lord,” she said.

And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”
Does Jesus support the act? No. Why do you think he was asked to preside over the matter because it was a trap. The said lady has to pay for her sins first before seeking restitution. There should be sanity in the church

churches pay police every sunday abroad..

church pay police every sunday.. because you have a maximum of gathering,, after that maximum number of people in a gathering. you have pay police.. all the churches program, they pay police to be there.

asuustrike2009:


Do you mean this below
Jesus returned to the Mount of Olives, 2 but early the next morning he was back again at the Temple. A crowd soon gathered, and he sat down and taught them. 3 As he was speaking, the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in the act of adultery. They put her in front of the crowd.

4 “Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”

6 They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. 7 They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” 8 Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.

9 When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. 10 Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”

11 “No, Lord,” she said.

And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”
Does Jesus support the act? No. Why do you think he was asked to preside over the matter because it was a trap. The said lady has to pay for her sins first before seeking restitution. There should be sanity in the church

I see! you are very clever, okay! but I still believe that Love and forgiveness can resolve every issues. though I may be wrong.

gypsey:
I see! you are very clever, okay! but I still believe that Love and forgiveness can resolve every issues. though I may be wrong.

Definely she will be forgiven but she should pay in other to send messages to others to learn. If she's pardon immediately other persons will commit similar act and make reference to her case hence it becomes a precedence. From precedence it becomes a norm for people to steal and get away with it

asuustrike2009:

Definely she will be forgiven but she should pay in other to send messages to others to learn. If she's pardon immediately other persons will commit similar act and make reference to her case hence it becomes a precedence. From precedence it becomes a norm for people to steal and get away with it

Mmmm... makes a lot of sense.

gypsey:
Mmmm... makes a lot of sense.

Yea

asuustrike2009:

Yea

i think you have made more sense than some so called christians i ve met, you have managed to covert me by %30

gypsey:
so when will the crooked pastors of that church be punished for stealing from the church members in the name of God?

If they are caught stealing or involved in other illegal activity by all means let them be handed over to the Police. If they are crooked and cant be pinned down, God will definitely wrath his anger on them, that's not our business.

gypsey:
martin! he doesn't know who he is debating with. how far? were have you been hiding?

my brother I just dey Busy eee
But any how sha when I finish what am doing I go join una ee

Baeb:


If they are caught stealing or involved in other illegal activity by all means let them be handed over to the Police. If they are crooked and cant be pinned down, God will definitely wrath his anger on them, that's not our business.

Errrr. . it is our business, so If a crooked pastor rapes my sister i will keep quiet and wait, for God for punish them?

gypsey:
Errrr. . it is our business, so If a crooked pastor rapes my sister i will keep quiet and wait, for God for punish them?

eh wait for God no na God is Busy and I dont need to disturb him when I can do justice to that.

Martin0:
eh wait for God no na God is Busy and I dont need to disturb him when I can do justice to that.

Good! that is exactly what I thought! martin!

gypsey:
Good! that is exactly what I thought! martin!

these people eh I Wonder what's happening to their brains

Martin0:
these people eh I Wonder what's happening to their brains

i wonder o!

encrypt:

Give unto Ceasar...
The law is meant to handle such matters as a deterrant to others..

Baba, check our last chat on BBM and send me my PIN. I requested for your phone number last time, just a few days ago on BBM which you gave. My 2 phones have been stolen. Please help me send the BBM PIN to me. I need to track that phone down.

2sexyus:
Baba, check our last chat on BBM and send me my PIN. I requested for your phone number last time, just a few days ago on BBM which you gave. My 2 phones have been stolen. Please help me send the BBM PIN to me. I need to track that phone down.

Shii sorry man
2B110FC8

encrypt:

Shii sorry man
2B110FC8

yeah, seen. Please keep trying to converse with the person, change your Dp to that of a woman and see if you can get the persons phone number and address. Just find one lie blow wey go make am come out...

gypsey:
i wonder o!

in my words they are senseless

2sexyus:
yeah, seen. Please keep trying to converse with the person, change your Dp to that of a woman and see if you can get the persons phone number and address. Just find one lie blow wey go make am come out...

The guy bloody oh...you no dey my bbm again!

encrypt:

The guy bloody oh...you no dey my bbm again!

interesting. Him Don delete am?

2sexyus:
interesting. Him Don delete am?

Yeah oh

encrypt:

Yeah oh

na poverty na. I Don buy another phone next day sef