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Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by shigishege: 12:11pm On Sep 25, 2017
bahaushe1:


Did Adam and Abraham worship? If yes then what do you call he who worship his Master?

And I didn't use 'slave' as a title for anybody. I only used it as a descriptive term for he who worship his Master.
and dat make u to be wrong. yes dey served God but what do u call someone who render service .... servant. servant is servant nothing like slave in dis context. Jesus is Son of God and as well his servant. at least a son can be a savant to his dad
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by bahaushe1: 12:12pm On Sep 25, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Those who worship God are called His servants. His son Jesus Christ made them His children also cos they believed in Him.

A slave is the worst thing anyone can be called. A loving God will never call his servants slaves. If you want to know what a slave is, then read about the slavery days of blacks in America. Is that what Allah says you are to him?


As for us, we are sons and daughter of the True Living God.

You have taken the concept of 'slave'as used in my write-up to the extreme.

As for Jesus Christ being son of god I do not know what exactly you mean by that. I will like to be educated for I believe a Mighty Lord is in no need of son for whatever reason.

As for the last part of your comment you may wish to read my initial post to know where I am coming from.

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Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by Didov1(f): 12:17pm On Sep 25, 2017
Hier:


Our school on holiday

Moreso, there are no student fellowship during the Holiday, cause everyone has gone home

The church I normally attend is quite far and I missed the bus having woken up late. services starts by 8:30, buses leaves. by 8:20, I slept late and woke up very late. But at least, I was indoor with a friend and we talked about the things of God
...hmmmnn..so thats why u r nw toasting on nl yestday abi,or should i call it toasting 4 christ.,..your pastor shall hear this...*on my way already*........so why r u still in school when the school is on holiday?
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by Andylegacy: 12:40pm On Sep 25, 2017
anybody that don't believed that Jesus is God, should read this Bible portions from king James version; John 5:10 talking about three individuals that govern the affairs of the universe and there are all called GOD, and also read john 10: 38 where Jesus said that I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by Hier(m): 12:55pm On Sep 25, 2017
Didov1:
...hmmmnn..so thats why u r nw toasting on nl yestday abi,or should i call it toasting 4 christ.,..your pastor shall hear this...*on my way already*........so why r u still in school when the school is on holiday?

I knew that was what you were thinking grin grin

That's why I asked if you knew the parable of the lost coin. I perceived you were following our conversation.

I wasn't toasting her. She's just a difficult lady

I hope you understand. Hmmmmmm, lemme tell you this, I don't just jump on ladies and start toasting them unless God leads me to do that, and if its flesh, God would command me to break it.

Anyway, thanks

I am doing my project defense very soon brb
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by Pro2makx(m): 1:27pm On Sep 25, 2017
shigishege:
give d verse or quote where d Prophet Isaiah calling Jesus Christ God or else let ur mouth remain shot forever
Think I am at your level?
You want me to quote verse, then what?
Then u keep arguing blindly.
No matter how u try, u just won't understand this mysteries,
except the Holy Spirit grants you understanding.
Light does not argue with darkness.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by Didov1(f): 1:38pm On Sep 25, 2017
Hier:


I knew that was what you were thinking grin grin

That's why I asked if you knew the parable of the lost coin. I perceived you were following our conversation.

I wasn't toasting her. She's just a difficult lady

I hope you understand. Hmmmmmm, lemme tell you this, I don't just jump on ladies and start toasting them unless God leads me to do that, and if its flesh, God would command me to break it.

Anyway, thanks

I am doing my project defense very soon brb
this is serious,i was only joking,.i was jst trying to stirup something funny cox i know that wasnt ur intention..,ok fine,,m very very very sorry,such thing wnt happen again,i promise,will quote you only when i have something important to say,i promise,.once again m very sorry and goodluck on your project.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by bahaushe1: 2:17pm On Sep 25, 2017
shigishege:
and dat make u to be wrong. yes dey served God but what do u call someone who render service .... servant. servant is servant nothing like slave in dis context. Jesus is Son of God and as well his servant. at least a son can be a savant to his dad

We are making progress. Atleast we now agreed that ALL Prophets and Messengers of God worshipped Him (God) and are therefore His servants. Let us therefore worship God ALONE and not His Prophets and Messengers who are also fellow servants of God.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by Pro2makx(m): 2:44pm On Sep 25, 2017
bahaushe1:


We are making progress. Atleast we now agreed that ALL Prophets and Messengers of God worshipped Him (God) and are therefore His servants. Let us therefore worship God ALONE and not His Prophets and Messengers who are also fellow servants of God.

You seem confused. Jesus was not a prophet, neither was he a message, he is called Emmanuel (God with/among us). He was God in the image of man.
Get a Bible, read the account of Noah and the arc and why God decided to perish the same world he created. It was because of the gravity of heartlessness and sin of man. After the purging of the earth, God repented and made a covenant never to purge the earth with water again, and that brought about the rainbow you see in the sky, when ever u see it, it's stands as a symbol and reminder of the covenant God made with man, never to destroy the world with water again.
But after the purging, rather than getting better for man, the heart of man continued to drift away from God. Then it became necessary to redeem man, whom God loves so much above all creations (even angels). The only way was the sacrifice of a pure blood. And non was found on the surface of the earth. Therefore God came down in the form of man, by throwing his word into Mary which became Jesus. No wonder, it was recorded during his life time of Jesus Christ, that he had no sin, he was spotless. Only the blood a man with such profile can redeem man from the obvious utter destruction man was heading for.

For better understanding of GOD, JESUS THE SON OF GOD, THE WORD OF GOD. You may want to read my earlier comment
Pro2makx:
JESUS OUR MESSIAH IS CALLED THE SON OF GOD

In John 1:1 and 14 it is written:
"In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with GOD and the WORD WAS GOD.and the WORD became FLESH and dwelt among us and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the father, full of grace and truth.

In this verse the spiritual meaning of the expression "son of God" was revealed. The "word of God" had become a man in the birth of Jesus Christ. Therefore, Jesus is called "The living word" as stated in 1John 1:1.

It is obvious that Jesus is not called "the Son of God" because God has physically and biologically given birth as many Muslims think, but because "the word of God" was manifested in the son of Mary by the Holy Spirit.

Muhammad himself testified severally to the truth of this verse by saying:
"Jesus is truly the spirit of God and HIS WORD."
(Hadith Anas bin Malik-Mutiara Hadith, page 353.)


In Sura al-Nisa 171 we read:
"Truly Jesus Christ the son of Mary, is the ambassador of God and his word, which he threw into Mary and (he is) a spirit of him"

From the few stated above, I wonder why Muslims still dare to deny Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the son of Mary. Only if majority of Muslims who read the Arabic letters in the quran will take further step to know the actual translation of what they read, rather than Bank on some twisted translations given by their so called scholars. My prayer is for the Holy Spirit to arrest you all, convict and convert you, to open your eyes to see all the lies, scams and deciet in that religion. Hard truth, the Quran is grossly adulterated. Hence the trying so hard to deform the name that is above every other, the name of Jesus Christ.

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Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by shigishege: 2:53pm On Sep 25, 2017
bahaushe1:


We are making progress. Atleast we now agreed that ALL Prophets and Messengers of God worshipped Him (God) and are therefore His servants. Let us therefore worship God ALONE and not His Prophets and Messengers who are also fellow servants of God.
yeah u are right but dobt forget dat Jesus Christ hold "dual citizenship" dats Jesus Christ is a servant of God and also He is d Son of God unlike Prophet Muhammad SAW who happen to be only Gods servant. So if u feel like noone should serve a servant u will only be referring to Prophet Muhammad SAW

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Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by youngdabold(m): 3:15pm On Sep 25, 2017
laydoh:


sorry, get ur facts right.apart from wisdom n wralth .God also gave him command over jinn wu can never go against his will
.......sorry what is jinn
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by Hier(m): 3:23pm On Sep 25, 2017
Didov1:
this is ,i was only joking,.i was jst trying to stirup something funny cox i know that wasnt ur intention..,ok fine,,m very very very sorry,such thing wnt happen again,iI promise,will quote you only when i have something important to say,i promise,.once again m very sorry and goodluck on your project.


grin cheesy

Probably after my defense, we can talk better

I felt you were serious about it.

You know now, just doing the Father's business
.

At least, I have seen some people that I can stir up their passion for God at least once in a while, and that gives me joy. and I would keep praying for them,
If I can get some of them to be passionate as I am for the things of God, I believe, we would do a lot of exploit

But I have this feeling I need to take little children serious, children that about 4 and 13, and I am sold out to them

You know, many of this adults have cubwebs on their head and its very hard to get them out of their head

They have been exposed to some things and its making it difficult for most of them to see God with it.

How are you now.

I didn't get your name
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by Hier(m): 3:26pm On Sep 25, 2017
youngdabold:
.......sorry what is jinn

demons I guess
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by bahaushe1: 3:35pm On Sep 25, 2017
Pro2makx:


You seem confused. Jesus was not a prophet, neither was he a message, he is called Emmanuel (God with/among us). He was God in the image of man.
Get a Bible, read the account of Noah and the arc and why God decided to perish the same world he created. It was because of the gravity of heartlessness and sin of man. After the purging of the earth, God repented and made a covenant never to purge the earth with water again, and that brought about the rainbow you see in the sky, when ever u see it, it's stands as a symbol and reminder of the covenant God made with man, never to destroy the world with water again.
But after the purging, rather than getting better for man, the heart of man continued to drift away from God. Then it became necessary to redeem man, whom God loves so much above all creations (even angels). The only way was the sacrifice of a pure blood. And non was found on the surface of the earth. Therefore God came down in the form of man, by throwing his word into Mary which became Jesus. No wonder, it was recorded during his life time of Jesus Christ, that he had no sin, he was spotless. Only the blood a man with such profile can redeem man from the obvious utter destruction man was heading for.

For better understanding of GOD, JESUS THE SON OF GOD, THE WORD OF GOD. You may want to read my earlier comment

May God guide us to the right path, the path of Adam, the path of Enoch, the path of Noah, the path of Abraham,..................the path of Moses, the path of David,..............the path of Jesus, and the pathe Muhammad.

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Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by bahaushe1: 3:36pm On Sep 25, 2017
shigishege:
yeah u are right but dobt forget dat Jesus Christ hold "dual citizenship" dats Jesus Christ is a servant of God and also He is d Son of God unlike Prophet Muhammad SAW who happen to be only Gods servant. So if u feel like noone should serve a servant u will only be referring to Prophet Muhammad SAW

May God guide us to the right path.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by shigishege: 3:38pm On Sep 25, 2017
bahaushe1:


May God guide us to the right path.
amen
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by Didov1(f): 3:53pm On Sep 25, 2017
Hier:



grin cheesy

Probably after my defense, we can talk better

I felt you were serious about it.

You know now, just doing the Father's business
.

At least, I have seen some people that I can stir up their passion for God at least once in a while, and that gives me joy. and I would keep praying for them,
If I can get some of them to be passionate as I am for the things of God, I believe, we would do a lot of exploit

But I have this feeling I need to take little children serious, children that about 4 and 13, and I am sold out to them

You know, many of this adults have cubwebs on their head and its very hard to get them out of their head

They have been exposed to some things and its making it difficult for most of them to see God with it.

How are you now.

I didn't get your name
.okay,goodluck then..
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by Bimpe29: 4:56pm On Sep 25, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
You mean a Quran that was written 700 years after Jesus should be believed over the Bible that was written by people who lived with Jesus?

You have been deceived by the new comer called Quran.

Gbam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bible was written yes, but Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) by Allah, the Lord of the worlds.

Now I understand you.

Case closed.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by femi4: 5:06pm On Sep 25, 2017
bahaushe1:


You have taken the concept of 'slave'as used in my write-up to the extreme.

As for Jesus Christ being son of god I do not know what exactly you mean by that. I will like to be educated for I believe a Mighty Lord is in no need of son for whatever reason.

As for the last part of your comment you may wish to read my initial post to know where I am coming from.
A son has same authority as his Father

A son can forgive your sins, no other prophet can

A son knew his Father and he could describe heaven and his Father's throne even before his death.

God is ok with us praying through his son. Infact, he is the only way to God
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by true2god: 6:54pm On Sep 25, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
https://www.nairaland.com/4064473/what-muslims-belief-concerning-jesus


Dear Nairaland,

I came across the above thread on Front Page stating what Muslims believe about my Lord Jesus Christ. It was put on front page on a Friday, a day pro-islamic threads make front page. What bothers me is that the thread spoke things about my Father and Saviour which are contrary to what I know of him. The sad part is that I couldn't correct those things cos Islamic threads are locked away from non-muslims who can only comment if they swear an Islamic creed. That is why I decided to create this thread to put to correction all those things said about my Father, just as a son would. I will appreciate it if the Moderators move this thread to front page this Sunday in the spirit of fairness.

Points from the thread are in quote.


First and foremost, Easa is not the name given to the Messiah we Christians believe in. His real name is Yahshua. The Bible says he comes in his Father's name (Mathew 23:39). Yahshua means Yahweh's Salvation. Easa doesn't carry such meaning.

Yes, he was a prophet but not a slave talk less of being a slave of Allah. He is the son of the Living God YAHWEH who called him his beloved Son.

Mathew 17:5

... He was still speaking when, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and a voice
from the cloud said, “This is my beloved Son , with whom I am well pleased ...



If by Easa you mean Jesus/Yahshua, then you are wrong. Tell me how many men can raise the dead? Those that do that today so it in his name. How many men ressurected from the dead as they promised they would? Those that do that today testify of how he resurrected them. How many perform healing as he did? Those that do today so it in his name.

Saying God has to have a wife before having a son is similar to limiting God's powers. If you believe that the God who created heaven and the earth, humans and animals etc needs a wife before he can have a son, then it's best you stop believing he created all those things.

Islam's denial of Jesus being the son of God who is Father has rendered the religion a LIAR and an Antichrist religion.

1 John 2:22

Who is the LIAR? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the ANTICHRIST--denying the Father and the Son.

God bless you bro. You do well!
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by true2god: 7:09pm On Sep 25, 2017
OmoManU:
U pipu's hatred of the religion called Islam never fails to baffles someone. All what u the OP penned down down were basically attempt and effort to scatter scatter simple truths

Muslims loves u guys but u guys hate them back in retrospect
Quran 9:29; Quran 5:51.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by true2god: 7:12pm On Sep 25, 2017
misterh:
Hahahahaha. You expect me to believe this? Kindly point me in the direction where you read this.
Read sirah rasul allahh by ibn Ishaq, pages 512 to 514, to get a clue. Also read sirah rasul allahh by ibn Hisham and ibn Iraq to know how demonic and evil your prophet is.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by bahaushe1: 7:22pm On Sep 25, 2017
femi4:
A son has same authority as his Father

A son can forgive your sins, no other prophet can

A son knew his Father and he could describe heaven and his Father's throne even before his death.

God is ok with us praying through his son. Infact, he is the only way to God

May God guide us to His true religion and make us firm in following it is correct teaching.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by alBHAGDADI: 7:59pm On Sep 25, 2017
Bimpe29:


Gbam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bible was written yes, but Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) by Allah, the Lord of the worlds.

Now I understand you.

Case closed.
Stop being deceived.

The Quran was revealed by Satan and was written down by Mohammad and his men. Or was it Allah that wrote the Quran himself?
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by misterh(m): 8:01pm On Sep 25, 2017
true2god:
Read sirah rasul allahh by ibn Ishaq, pages 512 to 514, to get a clue. Also read sirah rasul allahh by ibn Hisham and ibn Iraq to know how demonic and evil your prophet is.
I don't know the books you posted. Why don't you tell me what the books say about the Prophet (PBUH).

As regards the Banu Qurayza, I answered that on this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/4075253/counter-thread-what-muslims-believe/6#60776071
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by misterh(m): 8:07pm On Sep 25, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Stop being deceived.

The Quran was revealed by Satan and was written down by Mohammad and his men. Or was it Allah that wrote the Quran himself?
Oh! The Qur'an was revealed by Satan? I didn't know sha. Kindly point me to the proof of this. How did you know the Qur'an was revealed by Satan? It would be beneficial to us all if you share this.

Thanks in anticipation.

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Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by Daddyis: 8:14pm On Sep 25, 2017
gaskiyamagana:

To the dogmatized Christians
stupid kettle worshipper if Christianity is dogmatic what will you call your terror religion, guess what whether you like it or not your Quran said Jesus is coming back to kill dajjaj what ever the Bleep that means Jesus can never be compared with your prophet
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by misterh(m): 8:23pm On Sep 25, 2017
true2god:
Quran 9:29; Quran 5:51.
One thing Christians are quick to say in the process of understanding the Bible is that one requires the Holy Spirit to guide one in its understanding.

In Islam, there's a concept called Asbab al-nuzul. This concept loosely refers to the circumstances that necessitated the revelation of some verses of the Qur'an. One doesn't just have the knowledge of Islam by reading the Qur'an literally. He has to understand the tafsir too. The tafsir is the exegesis of the Qur'an. Thus, the verses you posted above are not taken at the facial level. The circumstances that led to their revelation is needed.

Just research on the principles of 'Asbab al-nuzul' and 'Tafsir'. The internet should help you.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by misterh(m): 8:32pm On Sep 25, 2017
Topmaike007:
Yeye Relegion Dat Dia Yeye Prophet Snatch His Son Wife And Marry Her.

Prophet Mohammed Said He Dnt Knw D Way Dat Maybe It Is True Or Wrong,but My Lovely Jesus Said He Is D Way The Truth And D Life.

I Dont Blame Boko Haram And Isis,it Is Their Prophet Dat Lay Dat Foundation For Them.

Av Any One Ever Translate The Meaning Of Mecca In Yoruba It Means Dnt Speak What Your Eye See In Dat Dia Temple In Arab(Ma Ka Nko Ti Oju Ba Ri)

Proub To Be Save.

Now I See Why D Bible Said My People Perish Becos Of D Lack Of Wisdom.

Wise Up Islam Is A Deadly Relegion.
Oh! You must be hurting real bad. See a therapist soon. This ignorance-based vile isn't good.


PS: Work on your grammar too. It hurt reading your comment. Hire a tutor.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by misterh(m): 8:39pm On Sep 25, 2017
HajimeSaito:
For the very first time since I joined nairaland I have found a thread that I enjoy.
OP, Albhagdadi may God continue to enlarge your coasts and pour the anointing over you. On behalf of all nairaland Christians I'd like to thank you for this truth establishment mission.
It can only be God's doing that this type of thread can make it to the front page of Nairaland.
A closet muslim like Seun Osewa who lies to the world that he is an atheist would never have allowed this thread to see the light of day if GOD had not intervened.
As for the followers of the illiterate pedophile, plagiarist, ignoramus " prophet " Sex Award Winner ( S.A.W ) fake " prophet " I only hope that one day the special light of God (Shekinah) will penetrate into the darkness of your spiritual blindness and make you see the truth.
This post has really, really, really made my Sunday! I've been singing Pharrell Williams Happy since I read the thread grin grin grin
You know you could have made your point about enjoying the thread like a civil person, right? In order to gain validation, you chose to insult another religion. I'm here to inform you that that doesn't make you look smart.

Cheers and have a nice week ahead. smiley
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by alBHAGDADI: 9:02pm On Sep 25, 2017
misterh:
Oh! The Qur'an was revealed by Satan? I didn't know sha. Kindly point me to the proof of this. How did you know the Qur'an was revealed by Satan? It would be beneficial to us all if you share this.

Thanks in anticipation.
Mohammad himself thought it was Satan that appeared to him and pressed him hard in that cave. It wasn't until his wife, khadija, that was never at the scene, told him that it was Angel Gabriel before he started using that narrative.
Re: Counter Thread To What Muslims Believe Concerning Jesus Christ by MistadeRegal(m): 9:25pm On Sep 25, 2017
bahaushe1:


Did Adam and Abraham worship? If yes then what do you call he who worship his Master?

And I didn't use 'slave' as a title for anybody. I only used it as a descriptive term for he who worship his Master.

What you think of yourself during worship isn't what matters but what GOD see you as.
If GOD sees you as a slave, then you need to see John 15:15.
If GOD sees you as a friend you need to see John 15:15.
If GOD sees you as a child of HIS, then you need to see John 1:12

Slaves have no place in the possession of his Master.
The Children are the heir.

I hope you understand what you see there.
Peace.

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