misterh:
You know you could have made your point about enjoying the thread like a civil person, right? In order to gain validation, you chose to insult another religion. I'm here to inform you that that doesn't make you look smart.

Cheers and have a nice week ahead.

alBHAGDADI:
Mohammad himself thought it was Satan that appeared to him and pressed him hard in that cave. It wasn't until his wife, khadija, that was never at the scene, told him that it was Angel Gabriel before he started using that narrative.

HajimeSaito:


Which is worse: Murder in the name of holy war, raping a woman because she's an unbeliever , treating unbelievers as second class citizens?

Or;

Calling a picece of shi.t religion founded by human scum its proper name?

God gave you a brain so I suggest you use it from time to time.

Until then stay the fvck off my mentions because something in my genes won't let me relate with fools.

misterh:
Oh! You must be hurting real bad. See a therapist soon. This ignorance-based vile isn't good.


PS: Work on your grammar too. It hurt reading your comment. Hire a tutor.

misterh:
I don't know the books you posted. Why don't you tell me what the books say about the Prophet (PBUH).

As regards the Banu Qurayza, I answered that on this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/4075253/counter-thread-what-muslims-believe/6#60776071

misterh:
One thing Christians are quick to say in the process of understanding the Bible is that one requires the Holy Spirit to guide one in its understanding.

In Islam, there's a concept called Asbab al-nuzul. This concept loosely refers to the circumstances that necessitated the revelation of some verses of the Qur'an. One doesn't just have the knowledge of Islam by reading the Qur'an literally. He has to understand the tafsir too. The tafsir is the exegesis of the Qur'an. Thus, the verses you posted above are not taken at the facial level. The circumstances that led to their revelation is needed.

Just research on the principles of 'Asbab al-nuzul' and 'Tafsir'. The internet should help you.

misterh:
Is that how you reached your conclusion? That's a weak premise to stand on.

Firstly, a man was just visited by a being he had never seen anything like it before- a being that greatly terrified him. It was the terror and confusion he was in that made him think that he was visited by an evil spirit.
Secondly, it wasn't Khadijah that told him it was Angel Gabriel that visited him.

The pictures attached might help you...

bahaushe1:


May God guide us to the right path, the path of Adam, the path of Enoch, the path of Noah, the path of Abraham,..................the path of Moses, the path of David,..............the path of Jesus, and the pathe Muhammad.

misterh:
Is that how you reached your conclusion? That's a weak premise to stand on.

Firstly, a man was just visited by a being he had never seen anything like it before- a being that greatly terrified him. It was the terror and confusion he was in that made him think that he was visited by an evil spirit.
Secondly, it wasn't Khadijah that told him it was Angel Gabriel that visited him.

The pictures attached might help you...

ABIOLAXYZ:

10 MIRACLES YOU MUST KNOW ABOUT PROPHET MUHAMMAD(S.A.W)!(S.A.W)!!(S.A.W)!!!

1 Do you know that "Flies,insects, ants and mosquitoes" never land on his body talk less of bitten him? (S.A.W)

2 Do you know that he did not "yawn" in his life time? (S.A.W)

3 Do you know that both "Domestic and wild Animals" were never a second angry with him? (S.A.W)

4 Do you know that if he"sleeps" he hears any "conversation"? (S.A.W)

5 Do you know that he "sights" every thing both "front" and "back" at the same time without turning? (S.A.W)

6 Do you know that"Land" covers his "urine" and stool immediately he passed them?(S.A.W)

7 Do you know that he is always "one fit taller" than any body that comes "near" him? (S.A.W)

8 Do you know that he was "circumcised, washed and cleaned in his Mother's womb before been born to this world?(S.A.W)

9 Do you know that he never had a "wet dream"that signify Men's "puberty"?(S.A.W)

1o Do you know that he has no "shadow" even in the "Sun", Moon or "Light"?(S.A.W).

missbeckykisses:
the wet dream part wan mad me.. Hahahaha the guy Sabi boast, wetin come kill am na, abi he did not renew his jazz on time

Topmaike007:
mr teacher thank u,usman danfodio really caused many harm for bringing islam to d southwest of nigeria.

and for ur correction it was mistake dat is i did nt read through after typing.

Rashduct4luv:



Jaabir was a slave boy? or was a Christian? Audhubillah! I seek refuge in Allah!

Please what have you been reading? or being feeding on?

alBHAGDADI:
You have been totally deceived, yet you allow yourself to be deceived again.

What angel of God appears to a man and scares him? That can only be a demon who is capable of frightening man, especially an impure man.

Through the out the Bible, whenever an angel is sent a message to someone, most times, the first thing they say is "do not be afraid". Those words are so soothing that they calm the man down. Some men eve. welcomed angels into their homes and ate with them.

The same angel Gabriel you claim appeared to Mohammad was the same angel Gabriel that appeared to Mary and delivered good news to her about a Son who will take away the sins of the world. She was not frightened nor terrified, even as a woman. But you say angel Gabriel terrified Mohammad, a man chosen by Allah. What a comedy.

I wonder why you didn't quote the Mohammad's encounter with the so-called angel Gabriel. That would have shown the terrible experience that Mohammad had to the extent that he beg people to cover him cos he was so scared. If it was Angel Gabriel, he won't have been scared and he would have known himself cos the angel will introduce himself. But no, it had to be warakah, a man that didn't see the event, to tell him who the entity was. Your quote even showed that warakah had knowledge of the Bible. If true, he would have known that angel Gabriel doesn't scared humans he's sent to deliver a message to. It is Satan's duty to use fear and terror to make people submit to him.

kattytamer:


Muhammad Ibn Ishaq Ibn Yasar said in al-Sirah: The Prophet, peace be upon him, according to what I heard, used to sit at al-Marwah at the hut of Christian boy called Jabr who was the slave of Banu al-Hadrami. Therefore, Allah revealed "We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear" and so told cAbdullah Ibn Kathir, and according to `Ikrimah and Qatadah his name was Ya`ish. Ibn Jarir said: Ahmad Ibn Muhammad al-Tusi told me, Abu `Amir told us, Ibrahim Ibn Tahman narrated to us from Muslim Ibn `Abdillah al-Mila'i from Mujahid from Ibn `Abbas his saying: The Prophet, peace be upon him, used to teach a slave boy(??) in Makkah called Bil`am whose tongue was foreign. The pagans used to see the Messenger of God, peace be upon him, enter his place and leave it, so they said that Bilcam taught him. Therefore, Allah revealed the verse "We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him". The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear"...these are the issues...

When The Lord God Almighty gave the Isrealites His Commandments through Moses there were several witnesses who heard Him speak, if, according to you the same Lord God Almighty gave Prophet Mohammed another set of commandments, this time for the whole world, how come there was no other witness this time around?thus stirring up all controversies, infact it was his wife who told him it was an angel speaking to him, how did she know? He could as well have been hallucinating.

Anyway I have shown from the Prophecies of old how a certain righteous servant born of a virgin would be put to death for the sins of many just before the destruction of jerusalem and He would be given an Eternal Kingdom by God Almighty...thats what we believe in Christianity which your quran partly agrees with but changes curiously changes some details while elevating mohammed who was never spoken of by the prophets to a special status...hence we see him as an impostor.

misterh:
There is a part of the Bible (I think in Isaiah) where God says His thoughts and ways are not like human's.

misterh:

That should answer your question on why Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) first encounter with Angel Gabriel was like that.

misterh:

In a similar vein, why was Paul the apostle struck blind when he encountered Jesus on his way to Damascus? Couldn't Jesus have meekly convinced him? I think the answer to that is because God's thoughts are not the thoughts of man.

misterh:

You think Muhammad (PBUH) was an impure man before becoming a prophet?! Hahahaha. Go and read about his life prior to being a prophet.
Because Angel Gabriel appeared in a gentle way to Mary doesn't mean he has just one way of revealing himself to people. In Islam, the angels are known from time to time to appear to people in different forms. Oh! Did you expect the angel to have introduced himself the way you thought he should or the way God commands him to?

misterh:

Yes, it was Waraqah who wasn't there that explained the phenomenon to Muhammad, just like a doctor isn't always there when a patient takes poison or falls sick before prescribing medications to him. Waraqah was someone who had studied the Torah and the Gospel extensively and was aware of the coming of the last prophet.

misterh:

Like I said in the beginning of this thread, Christians don't have to believe Islam's account of what happened and Muslims don't have to believe Christianity's account. Both religions have their account. Trying to argue it is like going in circles.

true2god:
allah says in Qur'an 12:111, 16:89 and 17:11 that his words are very clear, why do you wanna prove allahh wrong by implying that allahh is a bad communicator? Did allahh mention anything about the tasfir or the hadith in the Quran? Why does allahh need human assistance to communicate his words effectively?

Whenever Muslims attempt to explain away the evil commands in the Quran they run to the tasfir. And as per Qur'an 9:29, I have read the tasfir by ibn Kathir. It was explained in the most evil way possible. Muslims should treat the Christians, the so-called Dhimmis, in an Islamic country in the most evil way possible and force them to pay the jizya, convert to Islam or be killed. Quran 9:29 gave rise to the notorious 'pact of umar' which fully explained how Muslims must humiliate Christians and Jews under Islamic rule.

I have read some of the tasfir before now, it makes matters worse for Islam.

Rashduct4luv:




Allah tells us about the idolators' lies, allegations, and slander when they claimed that this Qur'an which Muhammad had recited for them, was actually taught to him by a human. They referred to a foreign (i.e., non-Arab) man who lived among them as the servant of some of the clans of Quraysh and who used to sell goods by As-Safa. Maybe the Messenger of Allah used to sit with him sometimes and talk to him a little, but he was a foreigner who did not know much Arabic, only enough simple phrases to answer questions when he had to. So in refutation of their claims of fabrication, Allah saidThe tongue of the man they refer to is foreign, while this (the Qur'an) is a (in) clear Arabic tongue.) meaning, how could it be that this Qur'an with its eloquent style and perfect meanings, which is more perfect than any Book revealed to any previously sent Prophet, have been learnt from a foreigner who hardly speaks the language No one with the slightest amount of common sense would say such a thing.

Please!!! He didnt speak arabic is not the question, thats a very lame attempt at an excue. He was a christian slave young boy according to the pagans, and used to teach mohammed things qed...i didnt say he wrote the quran, the extent of their discussion you cant say, but the pagans noticed mohammed often visited him...besides there is another story of a neighbour of the prophet who was a better story teller and had more followers till mohammed killed him at the battle of badr or so.

And you still havent said how khadijjat came to know about Angel Gabriel.

This is simple analogy! The Jabr you talked about is not the popular Jaabir we know.

Okay then...

On the israelites, are you sure the people were there when Moses was receiving the commandments from his Lord?

Genesis 20:18 says so

Who said the religion of Islam is a whole new religion? Our religion was completed by the Prophet Muhammad. All Prophets were Muslims from Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses to Jesus and Muhammad (Peace be on them all)

More like mohammed copied from judaism, chriatianity, zoroastrianism and added his ideas to make himself reverred among men and do as he pleases....

no one died for anyone and they never worshiped three gods in one!

Well, I have already shown you what the Word of God says about Salvation from God, if you keep contending with God and calling Him a liar, just like the old serpent did in the garden, you are on your own...maybe you should ask your imam how christians changed prophecies laid down centuries before Jesus was born.


The Qur'an is a fair Book. It shows no bias by talking about 25 Prophets. It also spoke well of Mary, mother of Jesus. Assuming Muhammad was an anti-christ or hallucinating or a forger, he would not have done this. We believe our Book is the truest Book on earth.

In the last days perilous times shall come...having a form of godliness but denying the power unto salvation...led many away with diverse lusts....ever learning, but never able to come to the knowledge of The Truth...the spirit of antichrist at work.

Excuse me why does sex have such a strong theme in islam? Even in your paradise men are promised 72 houris plus eternal hard-ons, and on earth you can marry four wives at a time, even a 9 year old young child despite the ills that comes with it.

And why four wives? Can women marry four husbands same time also You say its because women are more than men right?? But is it too much for an allah to make the equation balance i.e number of men=number of women, if thats truly the purpose and he is "all powerful".
On the other hand,given it is a natural phenomenon, and as time goes by population grows such that the ratio of men:women decreases further than it was 1400 years ago or 5000 years from now, would the 4:1 ratio still be sufficient to correct the imbalance...or a new verse would be revealed Fraud alert!!!

It came wholly from Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of all that exists.

Your thoughts please...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Quran

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran


The Bible on the other hand can never be compared in this regard... The God in the old testament is entirely different from that of the new testament. The God of the old testament was brutal in contrast to the God of the new testament.

Brutal you say? The God of the New Testament does cast those who rejects His Word into the lake of fire where they are tormented eternally. Mind you when Jesus died He descended to sheol to minister to souls locked up from the beginning of the world so everyone gets a chance of Salvation.

Can you please tell me what gospel of the kingdom of God mean in the following:

» And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people. (Matthew 4:23)

» And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. (Matthew 9:35)

» Now after John was put in prison, Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel." (Mark 1:14-15)

» [Jesus] said to them, "I must preach the kingdom of God to the other cities also, because for this purpose I have been sent." (Luke 4:43)

» Now it came to pass, afterward, that [Jesus] went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings [gospel] of the kingdom of God. (Luke 8:1)

Where is the Gospel of Jesus according to Jesus?

Only mohammed and his followers would say Jesus Christ wrote a book called "the Gospel of Jesus" while on earth in an attempt to make people actually view him like Jesus...the Jews who murdered Him and His Disciples never said that...

You simply dont know God and sorry the quran is a book of lies by an impostor to exalt himself...the son of perdition.

The Gospel of the Kingdom of God is Salvation of the soul made possible by Gods Love, to those who believe in the Word of God, in that Jesus Christ was sent by God Almighty as He promised through the Prophets of old times, to die for sins of many, and through Him all may be saved.
What did He teach,living by the laws can not make any one Holy, only the Grace of God.
Love The Lord God Almighty and obey His Word, Love your neighbour as well.

alBHAGDADI:
Stop being deceived.

The Quran was revealed by Satan and was written down by Mohammad and his men. Or was it Allah that wrote the Quran himself?

abdulmalik3:
give account of those who he rape and rob.

alBHAGDADI:
Wow!

See the double standard of Muslims and Islam. They are quick to label the Bible as fake and corrupted, yet won't hesitate to quote the same corrupted book when it appears like it's soothes them.

alBHAGDADI:
Mohammad encountered an angel, but it was a demon and not Gabriel.

Throughout the Bible, Angels of God never frightened nor terrorised humans they were sent to. If God was the One who sent the angel Mohammad saw, He won't have made the angel deliver the message in that manner. Of what significance is terrifying and threatening Mohammad? Nothing, no meaning or lesson.

alBHAGDADI:
That was why Mohammad himself said he had an encounter with a demon before warakah told him otherwise. We're see about warakah.

alBHAGDADI:
Wow, another double standard. Look at you picking a story from the same bible your lying Quran said is corrupt. Pls, use your brain. Well, it only shows you know that the Bible is God's word.

Paul who was known as Saul before that encounter was an enemy of Christ and his disciples. He put many of them in jail and rendered them dead. As a matter of fact, he was on his way to arrest more Christians on the day he encountered Jesus. The bright light of Jesus was what made him blind. If he wasn't a sinful man, he won't have been blinded. Other disciples saw Jesus after his resurrection and never went blind nor terrified at his brightness.

alBHAGDADI:
Even at that, Paul knew it was Jesus Christ he met. But Mohammad didn't know who he met in that terrible encounter of his. It took a third party to tell him the name of the person he met. That means he would have believed it if told that it was a rat he met.

alBHAGDADI:
Mohmmad was a pagan and from a pagan family. That enough shows impurity.

alBHAGDADI:
Throughout the Bible, show me where else an angel appeared in an awful way to a human God sent him to deliver a message to. Why was Mohammad's own case different and terrifying that he knew he had seen a demon? What's the significance of such terror?

alBHAGDADI:
Of warakah had studied the scriptures extensively as you claim, he would have known that there was no need for another prophet. Jesus Christ said he is the way, the truth and the life and that no man can come to God except through him. So, there was no need for Mohammad cos Jesus was and is the way to God. I guess warakah didn't study the Bible very well to know that, that's why he ordained the wrong person who ended up as a terrorist, murderer, Jew hater, sex maniac, pedophile and a bloody liar.

alBHAGDADI:
You Muslims started the confusion by stealing Christian stories, twisting them and claiming your narrative is the right one. Why not form Your Own religion without copying other sources? Why not be like Hinduism, bhuddism and the likes who have their own doctrine quite different from what you can find elsewhere?

misterh:
If you had taken 10 minutes to research the principle of Asbab al-nuzul as I suggested, you would not have posted this.

Come back for more discussion after you've done that.


PS: Your comment on Muslims running to the Tafsir and why Allah needs human assistance to communicate his words can be answered by a question:
Why does a reader consult a dictionary when he encounters a word he doesn't understand?

God doesn't need human assistance in communicating his words. It is the human being that has to think rationally and learn from the one through which the Qur'an was revealed to understand the Word better.

Rashduct4luv:


I know you won't be able to give us the Gospel Jesus preached while he was alive. We believe Jesus had a Book given to him from Allah called Injeel (Gospel) which he preached while on Earth.


Just like mohammed "received" the quran right? And this your belief is based on what mohammed taught you which is falsehood to draw your soul from the Truth.
What did early christians die preaching? Why did the Jews murder Jesus Christ?

Jaabir son of Abdullah was one of the companions of our Prophet....now you keep going back and forth, jaabir or jabr? Are they the same slave christian?

Can we say Jesus christ was being influenced in any way when he wined and dined with sinners? No i think! He was spreading the good news to them just as in this case.

The last Prophet of Islam used to mix with Jews and Christians, calling them to Islam.

Same way he must have learnt about christianity and judaism while he was a pagan and that is my point.

Al-Bukhaari (1356) narrated from Anas ibn Maalik (may Allah be pleased with him) that a Jewish boy used to serve the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and he fell sick. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) came to visit him. He sat by his head and said: “Become Muslim.” The boy looked at his father, who was also by his head, and his father said to him: Obey Abu’l-Qaasim (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). So he became Muslim, and the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) left, saying, “Praise be to Allah Who have saved him from the Fire.”.

And maybe he is also one of those who must have "revealed" judaism to the "prophet".

About Khadijah knowing about Angels....

In a very long hadith Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4572; Muslim, 231).....

....Then Khadeejah took him to Waraqah ibn Nawfal, the son of her paternal uncle. He was a man who had become a Christian during the jaahiliyyah. He used to write Arabic script and he used to write from the Gospel in Arabic as much as Allaah willed he should write. He was an old man who had become blind. Khadeejah said, ‘O son of my uncle, listen to what your nephew says.’ Waraqah said: ‘O son of my brother, what have you seen?’ [The Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] told him what he had seen. Waraqah said: ‘This is the Naamoos [Jibreel] who came down to Moosa. Would that I were young and could live until the time when your people will drive you out.’

The Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘Will they really drive me out?’ Waraqah said, ‘Yes. Never has there come a man with that which you have brought, but he was persecuted. If I should live to see that day, I will support you strongly.’ But a few days later, Waraqah died, and the Revelation also ceased for a while, until the Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was filled with grief.

Okay the special prophet didnt know who he saw and this so-called angel gave him messages without saying who he was for once? Where has that happened Waraqa was most likely an apocryphal christian which explains alot. Besides how do we differentiate this his revelation from the hallucinations of a maniac? The "revelations" seized for a while...go check on bipolar affective disorders presenting as mania to see how it fits what you believe in.

About Plural marriage....

This is deceit on your part and it pains me sadly that you would shy away from the truth regarding this. Plural marriage has been present since ages and Jesus never came to abolish the law...

In the begining God created one man for one woman not four. Mohammed or allah gave you the principle of four women to one man which i have pointed out is wrong if the purpose to provide a spouse for everyone, so correct me where im wrong or accept the simple truth.

A man and woman has different rights. The man is always the leader. If a woman has four husbands, who will she obey most? Who owns the child when she gives birth? this your question is illogical. Solomon in the Bible had 1000 wives + Concubines, David had more than one, even the father of faith too. Several others in the old testament.
We have options to marry 1 or 2 or 3 or 4.

It is illogical for a woman to have four wives but logical for the reverse how? Is it impossible for them to all live in "perfect love" with no conflict of interests like you expect in polygamous homes?

As for copulation in Paradise, we believe that's part of our reward there.

Your god is highly...leading many away with diverse lusts...


And Allah knows best. None guides but Him.

Guides unto falsehood and darkness...

Horladimeyjey:


I wish you dropped them one at a time...
Your first evidence, Allah hating the non-disbelievers. He created everything. He is the Lord of the world. When you choose not to worship Him, should he love you? Should he love Satan?

“Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity”
[al-Mumtahanah 60:8] .

Giving Zakat to nonbeliever, would you give a Muslim your tithe?

A kafir can be mocked...

On that day... What day? The day of judgement. Those in heaven will have a better day don't you think?

true2god:
The Qur'an in 12:111, 16:89 and 17:11 made a claim that the words of allahh are very clear to understand, I didn't make the claim, so why did the Muslims need a tasfir, sirah and the hadith to explain what allahh had already made plain in the Koran? It is either allahh is a bad communicator or Muslims are lying to defend allahh.

If I speak to you in a manner that you will need a dictionary to understand my taught and languages that means I am a bad communicator. That also means that my expression is subject to numerous interpretation by different audience/students of mine and a recipe for confusion and disaster. This is the major reason why Muslims are quick to reject some hadith as weak and fabricated, reject some sirah and as well reject some tasfir on a particular ayah. There is no uniformity because different tasfir interprete different ayah in different ways. One ayah of the Quran can have like 3 different interpretations from 3 different 'scholar'. That's crazy man!

And again, tasfir is not like our daily dictionary which deals with providing a meaning (or meanings) to a SINGLE word. Don't use unrelated analogy to built a point. The fact remains, according to Muslims, allahh is a bad communicator hence scholars have to write tasfir to explain what allahh could have just made clear in the Qur'an. From my reading of the Quran, the quran as a book makes no sense at all; you cannot read 12 consecutive ayah and make a meaning out of it. The people that wrote tasfir, like ibn kathir, al-badawi and al-tabari understood the problems in the Quran hence came up with the tasfir.

Rashduct4luv:


I know you won't be able to give us the Gospel Jesus preached while he was alive. We believe Jesus had a Book given to him from Allah called Injeel (Gospel) which he preached while on Earth.

Jaabir son of Abdullah was one of the companions of our Prophet. Can we say Jesus christ was being influenced in any way when he wined and dined with sinners? No i think! He was spreading the good news to them just as in this case.

The last Prophet of Islam used to mix with Jews and Christians, calling them to Islam.

Al-Bukhaari (1356) narrated from Anas ibn Maalik (may Allah be pleased with him) that a Jewish boy used to serve the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and he fell sick. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) came to visit him. He sat by his head and said: “Become Muslim.” The boy looked at his father, who was also by his head, and his father said to him: Obey Abu’l-Qaasim (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). So he became Muslim, and the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) left, saying, “Praise be to Allah Who have saved him from the Fire.”.

About Khadijah knowing about Angels....

In a very long hadith Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4572; Muslim, 231).....

....Then Khadeejah took him to Waraqah ibn Nawfal, the son of her paternal uncle. He was a man who had become a Christian during the jaahiliyyah. He used to write Arabic script and he used to write from the Gospel in Arabic as much as Allaah willed he should write. He was an old man who had become blind. Khadeejah said, ‘O son of my uncle, listen to what your nephew says.’ Waraqah said: ‘O son of my brother, what have you seen?’ [The Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] told him what he had seen. Waraqah said: ‘This is the Naamoos [Jibreel] who came down to Moosa. Would that I were young and could live until the time when your people will drive you out.’

The Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘Will they really drive me out?’ Waraqah said, ‘Yes. Never has there come a man with that which you have brought, but he was persecuted. If I should live to see that day, I will support you strongly.’ But a few days later, Waraqah died, and the Revelation also ceased for a while, until the Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was filled with grief.


About Plural marriage....

This is deceit on your part and it pains me sadly that you would shy away from the truth regarding this. Plural marriage has been present since ages and Jesus never came to abolish the law...

A man and woman has different rights. The man is always the leader. If a woman has four husbands, who will she obey most? Who owns the child when she gives birth? this your question is illogical. Solomon in the Bible had 1000 wives + Concubines, David had more than one, even the father of faith too. Several others in the old testament.
We have options to marry 1 or 2 or 3 or 4.

As for copulation in Paradise, we believe that's part of our reward there.


And Allah knows best. None guides but Him.

ExInferis:


Jesus is the latinized iesous. Iesous is the real greek version, not jesus.

Iesous is phonetically similar to issa, or Isa.

So by your analogy calling him Isa or Issa, as muslims do, is the same thing as calling him jesus, yeshua, joshua and whatever else his name was.

QueryUnical:


The greek word spelt Iesous is pronounced same as Jesus.Check it out.

ExInferis:


Nope.

No J in greek so how can it be pronounced as such?

QueryUnical:


Seems you dont know greek. There is no letter J in greek cause its not latino.That first greek letter has the same proninciation or sound as the latino j. Pls do not reply unless u have verified this.

ExInferis:


Alpha
Beta
Gamma
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Epsilon
Zeta
Eta
Theta
Iota
Kappa
Lambda
Mu
Nu
Xi
Omikron
Pi
Rho
Sigma
Tau
Upsilon
Phi
Chi
Psi
Omega

That's the greek alphabet from which all greek words, sentences and phrases are formed.

Show me one letter that sounds like the english J.

Dumb motherfukker.