Mickael2:



do you know when Douglas Perreira(you haven't heard the name abi?) left Barca what the Barca site announced? 'Barcelona Superstar moves to so so and so club'. Is Douglas a superstar? It's called courtesy

Humility017:

and so what....?
does that stop him from being a club legend...
eveeyone has a vital role they played in the team success...just like everyone can't score goals or defend.

Kog45:
My man pls can u refer to a post i term u as hater,on football matter,sorry to say this am always here to relax especially when on my long vacation in naija

The only person i always term hater here is my friend Michael2 and is just a banter and he understand very well.

Humility017:

see how you shifting goal post...
so Chelsea was just applying courtsey ?
how many players have them addressed in such way ?

you leave me surprised sometimes the way you downplay these players achievements.
you think mikel was not a good material but still he survived the influx of coaches that managed Chelsea during his 10 years era.....and partook in the club milestone of winning the ucl

Mickael2:



Mikel did his job in the team, that does not make him a legend. Yaya Toure was a vital part of the 2008 treble winning barca side, still he isn't a Barca legend

Mickael2:



this is how wars start, misunderstanding. I NEVER said Mikel is/was not a good material. I said he was a great player for Chelsea but not a legend

Joebie:
What you have here are two occasions in a short period of time (within a year?).
The striketroughs do not count. We are talking Super Eagles Legend. Or maybe you want to discus Nigerian-Footballer legend (?)

I wouldn't even put Kanu Nwankwo in the class of SuperEagles Legends for the same reason I've stated earlier.
Nigerian-Football legend? Hell yes!!!

Mickael2:



lol during diagnosis I need to ask you some questions to know what is wrong with you na. You may come and ask me 'Doctor, constant headaches is a sign of what'. Now it could be a sign of malaria or just normal pimple sef, I will then need to ask you if you've also lost your appetite or if you are having cough before I can decide....


Don't let me bore you with stuffs sha, just answer the ajuju

tbaba1234:


Mikel had almost 400 appearances for Chelsea... He was more or less a regular for most seasons. Comparing that to Sturridge is utterly ridiculous.

Ray parlor is an Arsenal Legend but there were better players than him in that Arsenal team. He is legend because he was an important player in one of the most successful periods for Arsenal.

Malouda, Ferreira and Kalou are Chelsea legends to varying degrees.

Mickael2:



I liked your comment because it exposes the entire problem we are having now.


Simple Mikel deserves maximum respect, he was a great Chelsea player but he was not a Chelsea legend, he is a SE legend for sure but very far from a legend at Chelsea. For top clubs your exploits in a season(granted a Champions league winning season) does not elevate your status to a legend, it makes you a great player for sure

Mickael2:



now I am confused, so despite being a vital player(not vital alone, infact irreplaceable, only about 4 players in that team were irreplaceable) in our first Afcon win since 1994 he isn't a SE legend? But for being a pivotal piece in a star-studded Chelsea team that cost almost 1bn he is a Chelsea legend?

soetanoreoluwa:


I hear you! Well done sir! Mikel is not legend I hear you.. Can we talk about something else Dokita Alabere!

elyte89:

Having some gud days at d office doesnt make u d best staff,in overall,compare his good days to his bad days in office
Ok sef,dis Mikel u re calling a legend,he has never been nominated as a top 15 best player in Europe,so what re u saying, Mikel effort was a collective one,no be say baba do one extra ordinary thing to rescue d team for once

Go and check legends now,shey na Gerrard we wan talk against Acmilan 2005,or Fa cup final 2006 liverpool against west ham,Go and watch those two matches again and knw what a legend means

soetanoreoluwa:



Okay good can you answer the second part?

What makes a player a legend?

Joebie:
Let me define it again in my own opinion.

If we are speaking of a club. I want to look at the long history of the club especially as it has to do with our lifetime. I want to look at the golden era, or the era of best achievement to see those who were monumental to that feat. Those are the ones I will consider legends.

For Super Eagles. I will consider 1994 (nations cup and our first world cup) period our only golden-generation I am conscious of. And it even spilled over to several years after when we at least made bronze several times at the AFCON. The likes of Yekini, Okocha, Amokachi, Amuneke, Rufai etc comes to mind. Nwankwo Kanu had a very successful club career than Nigerian SENIOR career.

soetanoreoluwa:



Nope... Is not about my view... Most times we might not be in thesame page.. . That make us human..

All am saying he's that even though you don't like his style of play or you don't like him as a person that doesn't mean you bring him down with your words


We have seen some players trying to mould their style of play like that of Mikel..

And he a a role model to alots of players


All I am asking from you guys is RESPECT... He deserve your respect that's all...

Like me there are some players I don't like... You won't hear me talk them down... I wont even mention them at all... That why you see some coaches will never talk about some players not to talk of playing them or invite them...

About the bold part... Lemme ask what are things you don't like about Mikel... ?

And what's the meaning of legend or what can a player do to become a legend...?

Please enlighten me...

Mickael2:
Do you think Kelechi Nwakali deserves a world cup spot?

Mickael2:



wasn't Kanu part of the team from 96 till 2010? I can remember we made the semis in all but one Afcon he participated and he scored some vital goals and earned some vital penalties and assists as well.


Chelsea's golden era can also be the year they won their first Epl or when they won it under Mou back then or when Ancelotti was destroying teams enroute to a double etc etc

Mickael2:




these are the go to guys. As in when you sub them the team falls. When they leave a team the hole will be well felt as in you see the team searching for a new player of their mould, say new Terry or New Drogba or new Lampard or new Makele(which is what Mikel was called back then). Players that won games singlehandedly(not just one game) they don't really need to score or even assist

elyte89:

Having some gud days at d office doesnt make u d best staff,in overall,compare his good days to his bad days in office
Ok sef,dis Mikel u re calling a legend,he has never been nominated as a top 15 best player in Europe,so what re u saying, Mikel effort was a collective one,no be say baba do one extra ordinary thing to rescue d team for once

Go and check legends now,shey na Gerrard we wan talk against Acmilan 2005,or Fa cup final 2006 liverpool against west ham,Go and watch those two matches again and knw what a legend means

neighy:
lemme just jump to the part of what i dont like about mikel.. Excluding his lack of pace nothing else..

Joebie:
well, i'm going to have to revise my definition lol.. I had to go look at the dictionary.
This looks the most appropriate definition:

An extremely famous or notorious person, especially in a particular field.
Sentences: ‘the man was a living legend’
‘a screen legend’

So we are talking about a player that is extremely famous in a team. Or should I say extremely famous because of his exploits in that team?

Well I must say Mikel is Super Eagles legend considering the 2013 era till date. Kanu also was. But club performances also rub off on these players. And that can boost their legendary status.

Joebie:
well, i'm going to have to revise my definition lol.. I had to go look at the dictionary.
This looks the most appropriate definition:

An extremely famous or notorious person, especially in a particular field.
Sentences: ‘the man was a living legend’
‘a screen legend’

So we are talking about a player that is extremely famous in a team. Or should I say extremely famous because of his exploits in that team?

Well I must say Mikel is Super Eagles legend considering the 2013 era till date. Kanu also was. But club performances also rub off on these players. And that can boost their legendary status.

Joebie:
well, i'm going to have to revise my definition lol.. I had to go look at the dictionary.
This looks the most appropriate definition:

An extremely famous or notorious person, especially in a particular field.
Sentences: ‘the man was a living legend’
‘a screen legend’

So we are talking about a player that is extremely famous in a team. Or should I say extremely famous because of his exploits in that team?

Well I must say Mikel is Super Eagles legend considering the 2013 era till date. Kanu also was. But club performances also rub off on these players. And that can boost their legendary status.

Mickael2:



Mikel wasn't so famous at Chelsea so Legend? No

Mickael2:



Mikel wasn't so famous at Chelsea so Legend? No

TheGoodJoe:


Mikel will not get nominated because he did not play a flamboyant role. It is that simple. Even the board of Real Madrid thought Makelele was useless until they sold him and Zidane criticised the decision. Most times, awards and accolades go to the flamboyant role players.