Mickael2:



Canavarro is a former World best. Essien and Lampard have both been nominated before and they are not in anyway flamboyant

TheGoodJoe:


Mikel will not get nominated because he did not play a flamboyant role. It is that simple. Even the board of Real Madrid thought Makelele was useless until they sold him and Zidane criticised the decision. Most times, awards and accolades go to the flamboyant role players.

soetanoreoluwa:


That Is just his style of play... That's what we known him for since we heard of Mikel... 2003...u17..

Every player have there style of play... Like barbatov... Kind slow but the way he hold play and score goals is fantastic...

If that's what you don't like... Then there is nothing you cant do about it... Remember he can hold up ball for a very long time and takes two to three players to take it away from him...

Joebie:
Very true. I read a while back that the holding midfielder role is the MOST important role but players playing that role can be easily unnoticed.

TheGoodJoe:


Exactly. Coupled with the fact that Mikel played that Key role for so long at Chelsea during a domestic dominating period and trophy-filled era. That was amazing. Then doing great in the Semi-finals and Finals of the Champions League. Then AFCON. With repeated man to match performances. This should not even be a debate.

TheGoodJoe:


It can happen but it is not regular. Shields are often overlooked. Please, Essien played box to box a lot. Same with Lampard. Apart from Canavarro, it is a rear occurrence. Shield are overlooked.

neighy:
i acknowledge the fact that nothing can be done.. Buh if only he can add pace to his game

TheGoodJoe:


Exactly. Coupled with the fact that Mikel played that Key role for so long at Chelsea during a domestic dominating period and trophy-filled era. That was amazing. Then doing great in the Semi-finals and Finals of the Champions League. Then AFCON. With repeated man to match performances. This should not even be a debate.

Joebie:
Now you are talking. That's why I've been canvassing for Joel Obi. That partnership will be deadly. Joel has the pace that Mikel don't have. But pace is not everything. Okocha wasn't fast but he had many other qualities that could cover for it.

Mickael2:



ok so how many times has Mikel been shortlisted in the....50man list for the Fifa World Best player? Atleast at that stage a lot of 'shields' are seen. Even Keita made it in once. Busquets is a mainstay, Ramos is there just about every year and so many other defensive players. Back to the question, did Mikel make that list after his 'legendary' contributions in 2012?

Mickael2:



this is how wars start, misunderstanding. I NEVER said Mikel is/was not a good material. I said he was a great player for Chelsea but not a legend

Joebie:
Very true. I read a while back that the holding midfielder role is the MOST important role but players playing that role can be easily unnoticed.

Joebie:
Now you are talking. That's why I've been canvassing for Joel Obi. That partnership will be deadly. Joel has the pace that Mikel don't have. But pace is not everything. Okocha wasn't fast but he had many other qualities that could cover for it.

TheGoodJoe:


Shields are underrated and overlooked a lot.

Ramos goes front during Corners while others shield. I think until Gus Hiddink's second return, Mikel was among the most popular and trusted by the managers to shield even during corners.

That is why he was overlooked but key.

Gerrit?

Mickael2:



ok so how many times has Mikel been shortlisted in the....50man list for the Fifa World Best player? Atleast at that stage a lot of 'shields' are seen. Even Keita made it in once. Busquets is a mainstay, Ramos is there just about every year and so many other defensive players. Back to the question, did Mikel make that list after his 'legendary' contributions in 2012?

zicky:
Chelsea board; Mikel is a Chelsea legend Mickael2: Mikel is ur legend, y will you call him Chelsea legend Chelsea board: see wahala

Joebie:
Now you are talking. That's why I've been canvassing for Joel Obi. That partnership will be deadly. Joel has the pace that Mikel don't have. But pace is not everything. Okocha wasn't fast but he had many other qualities that could cover for it.

Joebie:
I want to think that Mikel was more a holding defensive midfielder -- specialized defensive midfielder. Thats the aspect I think we are talking about. There are not many players that play that role. Makalele will be a good example.

Mickael2:



I am pretty sure Busquets, Kroos, Kante and even Matic(plus Makele them) have been well recognised

Mickael2:



I believe I mentioned Busquets and Maldini, please put forth your excuses for them as well

neighy:
lol.. Compared to mikel okocha was very fast and very skillful so he could easily take out defenders ... And mikel has shielding the ball to cover for it

TheGoodJoe:


Kroos has Casemiro today behind him. Even at Bayern, he had shields behind him. Busquets plays in one of the most offensive sides for club and country in the history of the game.

Matic and Kante do not have the Longevity yet. Matic has come under heavy criticism a lot of causing the team problems. So making list of FIFA is not a stamp of Legendary.

The point is clear but you still want to argue.

Mickael2:



i think we have different views on who a legend is

Joebie:
dude.. A holding defensive midfielder don't need speed.. That's the role he played at Chelsea. I don't know where you are heading with your sarcasm. Okocha was not very fast. Yes he did have that sudden burst going forward sometimes.

Mickael2:



that defines precisely what Busquets does for Barcelona but that hasn't prevented him from being nominated for the accolades.


Ok, during his best patch was Mikel ever included in the FIFA best XI? Atleast there is always a DMF there, he has never even been nominated for that one as well

TheGoodJoe:

Playing a key role for Chelsea for a long time. Making impacts in major tourneys.
FIFA list can not erase it.
The truth is clear.

TheGoodJoe:


I wonder who will tag Okocha pacy. Unless he has not watched Okocha before.

Mickael2:


when did Casemiro start playing for Madrid? And Kroos was the Dmf all along, even when they won the UCL.


Ok I don't understand how this explains your point. I said Busquets and Kroos have been nominated for the FWBP despite playing as the defensive shields for their teams but Mikel hasn't even been nominated for the FIFA XI, why is that if he is that much of a legend?

neighy:
i acknowledge the fact that nothing can be done.. Buh if only he can add pace to his game

TheGoodJoe:


I wonder who will tag Okocha pacy. Unless he has not watched Okocha before.